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Re: The NRA is tearing itself apart!
Reply #15 - Jun 29^th, 2019 at 11:00am

Mortdooley wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 11:26pm:

NRA is not the only game in town.

https://gunowners.org/

https://www.saf.org/

And the State organizations like TSRA

https://tsra.com/

The NRA has been caught misrepresenting their participation in State level issues. They have voiced their unfunded support giving the impression they actually joined in fighting bad legislation at the State level.

If the NRA doesn't clean up their act we still have groups to fight for our Rights! Other groups already exist and have millions of members, the Press concentrates on just this one.

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Reply #16 - Jun 29^th, 2019 at 11:13am

And the criminals will give up their weapons and vow not to attack the law abiding citizens.........is that right pessary?

You're an idiot (as usual)...........

Australians are now realising what a mistake John Howard made when he made it nigh impossible for the honest law abiding citizen to get a weapon to protect themselves and their family.......but the schite of Australian Society and the Bikies/Drug Addicts/Dealers have no trouble at all acquiring firearms .........

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Reply #17 - Jun 29^th, 2019 at 1:36pm

Fuzzball wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 11:13am:

And the criminals will give up their weapons and vow not to attack the law abiding citizens.........is that right pessary?

You're an idiot (as usual)...........

Australians are now realising what a mistake John Howard made when he made it nigh impossible for the honest law abiding citizen to get a weapon to protect themselves and their family.......but the schite of Australian Society and the Bikies/Drug Addicts/Dealers have no trouble at all acquiring firearms .........

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Reply #18 - Jun 30^th, 2019 at 12:38am

AiA wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 7:53am:

Richdude wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 11:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 2:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 5:39pm:

The NRA is tearing itself apart Cool

I have the solution to their problem.

More guns.

AiA wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 11:36pm:

I am not against gun ownership. A free society will have some gun ownership. But historically America was never as heavily armed as it is now. And the benefit is ... what?

Nothing. Nada. Zip.

We all want to live in a quiet peaceful neighborhood with no crime - I assume.

That is where I live - very pleasant - yet almost everyone around here has guns - I mean AK, AR's.

Your perception that owning guns equals violent communities is wrong! So why do you have these fallacious opinions? Obviously the media and Hollywood - you have been brainwashed.

Also the left's constant pushing the lie of victimhood. Justifies the use of using violence against your supposed oppressors.. Victimhood as a social construct is IMO a source of violence, guns are a symptom.

Your bias is showing. I support gun ownership as it is a characteristic of a free society. But America has never been as heavily armed as it is now. Never. Not ever. Not even in the good ol' days that if we were to return to to Make America Great Again.

You've seen the research that indicates that after a certain income threshold, happiness doesn't increase. In fact, happiness may decrease. Well, after a particular threshold in gun ownership society doesn't become safer, in fact, it becomes more dangerous.

I take your point about happiness not equivalent to wealth. However people need to discover that for themselves. Many lessons are only learnt from experience.

Many Americans feel threatened by a growing gov and more social division. As a consequence they react by buying guns. Cause and effect!

More regulation, gov eavesdropping on communications, controlled media, are signs that gov is attempting not so much to govern but control.

Americans are and always been a healthy freedom loving people.Make America to a more open and democratic government is the answer.

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Reply #19 - Jun 30^th, 2019 at 6:33am

Fuzzball wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 11:13am:

And the criminals will give up their weapons and vow not to attack the law abiding citizens.........is that right pessary?

You're an idiot (as usual)...........

Australians are now realising what a mistake John Howard made when he made it nigh impossible for the honest law abiding citizen to get a weapon to protect themselves and their family.......but the schite of Australian Society and the Bikies/Drug Addicts/Dealers have no trouble at all acquiring firearms .........

The vast majority of law-abiding Australian citizens are happy with Australia's strict gun laws.

More Guns Do Not Stop More Crimes, Evidence Shows

"More firearms do not keep people safe, hard numbers show. Why do so many Americans believe the opposite?"

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Reply #21 - Jun 30^th, 2019 at 8:01am

Fuzzball wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 11:13am:

Australians are now realising what a mistake John Howard made when he made it nigh impossible for the honest law abiding citizen to get a weapon to protect themselves and their family.......but the schite of Australian Society and the Bikies/Drug Addicts/Dealers have no trouble at all acquiring firearms .........

another deluded more on

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Reply #22 - Jun 30^th, 2019 at 8:24am

John Smith wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 8:01am:

Fuzzball wrote on Jun 29^th, 2019 at 11:13am:

Australians are now realising what a mistake John Howard made when he made it nigh impossible for the honest law abiding citizen to get a weapon to protect themselves and their family.......but the schite of Australian Society and the Bikies/Drug Addicts/Dealers have no trouble at all acquiring firearms .........

another deluded more on

Buffhead.........schit for brains calls everybody he disagrees with a moron (more on) or idiot, or goober...............

Benito the authority on absolutely NOTHING...... Grin

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Reply #23 - Jun 30^th, 2019 at 9:46am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 6:33am:

"More firearms do not keep people safe, hard numbers show. Why do so many Americans believe the opposite?"

When are you going to honour your bet with Bias and piss off from this forum little pecca?

Inconvenient truth for the bedwetting hoplophobes, more guns has resulted in lower firearm homicide rate.

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Reply #24 - Jun 30^th, 2019 at 9:54am

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 9:46am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 6:33am:

"More firearms do not keep people safe, hard numbers show. Why do so many Americans believe the opposite?"

When are you going to honour your bet with Bias and piss off from this forum little pecca?

Inconvenient truth for the bedwetting hoplophobes, more guns has resulted in lower firearm homicide rate.

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"Most of this research—and there have been several dozen peer-reviewed studies—punctures the idea that guns stop violence.

"In a 2015 study using data from the FBI and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, for example, researchers at Boston Children's Hospital and Harvard University reported that firearm assaults were 6.8 times more common in the states with the most guns versus those with the least.

"Also in 2015 a combined analysis of 15 different studies found that people who had access to firearms at home were nearly twice as likely to be murdered as people who did not."

More Guns Do Not Stop More Crimes, Evidence Shows

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Reply #25 - Jun 30^th, 2019 at 10:09am

So why did the CDC not publish this study on defensive gun use does it go against the narrative they're trying to create?

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That Time The CDC Asked About Defensive Gun Uses

In particular, a 2013 study ordered by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and conducted by The National Academies’ Institute of Medicine and National Research Council reported that, “Defensive use of guns by crime victims is a common occurrence”:

Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million, in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulhsieh/2018/04/30/that-time-the-cdc-asked-about-...

If a criminal pulls a gun on someone to rob them it's armed robbery even if no shots are fired.
Defensive gun use statistics should include all the criminals who surrender at gunpoint even if no shots are fired.

It appears the leftards in this forum think they can take away the constitutional rights of Americans, how delusional are these leftards?
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In America you can have a gun for self defence and shoot home invaders, In Australia we can't have guns for self defence the only people who can have armed protection are the elites and those wealthy enough to hire armed security guards.

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Re: The NRA is tearing itself apart!
Reply #26 - Jun 30^th, 2019 at 1:10pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 10:09am:

So why did the CDC not publish this study on defensive gun use does it go against the narrative they're trying to create?

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That Time The CDC Asked About Defensive Gun Uses

In particular, a 2013 study ordered by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and conducted by The National Academies’ Institute of Medicine and National Research Council reported that, “Defensive use of guns by crime victims is a common occurrence”:

Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million, in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulhsieh/2018/04/30/that-time-the-cdc-asked-about-...

If a criminal pulls a gun on someone to rob them it's armed robbery even if no shots are fired.
Defensive gun use statistics should include all the criminals who surrender at gunpoint even if no shots are fired.

It appears the leftards in this forum think they can take away the constitutional rights of Americans, how delusional are these leftards?
Cheesy

In America you can have a gun for self defence and shoot home invaders, In Australia we can't have guns for self defence the only people who can have armed protection are the elites and those wealthy enough to hire armed security guards.

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