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Re: US and Iran
Reply #46 - Jun 25^th, 2019 at 12:42pm

SerialBrain9 wrote on Jun 24^th, 2019 at 7:42pm:

I have yet to see Mr Kanga show evidence of anything he says - its all just opinions - which is ok - as long as you don't push them as FACT.

Which sadly - Mr Kanga does

- FACTS MATTER.

But its not just Kanga that does this - its a number of forum "progressives" that do this. Maybe its a "Progressive" thing.

Making up their own "alternative" facts Roll Eyes

Fine, if you won't even analyse the content of the post, just dismissing it as fake news, I'll do it for you.

The claims:

Trump handpicked Bolton.

Trump is claiming to bring jobs back to America from places like China, but his policy decisions don't support this.

Trump is blame shifting, doing something to appear to be fighting globalisation while leaving the Corporations who conduct such actions free to continue to do so, and in the process taxing the American consumers.

The Questions:

If Bolton is a Neocon and a Globalist, does this make Trump one by picking him?

As for those complaining about Globalism, do they think it means white supremacy or is it an economic term?

Out of those claims, which of those do you think are untrue and require me to post the evidence to support it?

And of the questions, how are any of them uncalled for given what other posters are saying in this thread and the actions Trump has taken?

Please, if you're going to make claims that I only post opinions and fake news, enlighten us with some of these facts you claim matter so much.

The floor is yours.

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Reply #47 - Jun 25^th, 2019 at 1:15pm

Bolton is neither a Globalist or a Neocon. Roll Eyes

Bolton is a Hawk.. other Members of Trumps security team are Doves...

This will incite Debate rather than just everyone slapping each other on the back or sucking up to Trump.

Bolton is as blunt as they come and tells the President exactly what he’s thinking rather than what he thinks the president wants to hear... it might cost him his job one day, who knows..

But having a team of Hawks and Doves is a brilliant strategy... it keeps the enemy off balance not knowing whats coming next...

But who makes the policy ?? Trump or Bolton??

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With his trademark bushy mustache and sharp tongue, Mr. Bolton, 70, has been a leading national security hawk for years, making a name for himself as a supporter of the Iraq war, a champion of American sovereignty and an unrelenting critic of international organizations and arms control treaties he deems tilted against the United States.

Does that sound like a “Globalist” to you Rooted?

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Reply #48 - Jun 25^th, 2019 at 1:59pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 1:15pm:

Bolton is neither a Globalist or a Neocon. Roll Eyes

Bolton is a Hawk.. other Members of Trumps security team are Doves...

This will incite Debate rather than just everyone slapping each other on the back or sucking up to Trump.

Bolton is as blunt as they come and tells the President exactly what he’s thinking rather than what he thinks the president wants to hear... it might cost him his job one day, who knows..

But having a team of Hawks and Doves is a brilliant strategy... it keeps the enemy off balance not knowing whats coming next...

But who makes the policy ?? Trump or Bolton??

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With his trademark bushy mustache and sharp tongue, Mr. Bolton, 70, has been a leading national security hawk for years, making a name for himself as a supporter of the Iraq war, a champion of American sovereignty and an unrelenting critic of international organizations and arms control treaties he deems tilted against the United States.

Does that sound like a “Globalist” to you Rooted?

Sounds like he's a warmonger, which is part of what I was replying to from Rich below,

Richdude wrote on Jun 24^th, 2019 at 9:34am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 24^th, 2019 at 5:09am:

As others have pointed out, those swamp monsters pushing for war as there because of Trump.

This isn't a case of the Deep State or [insert conspiracy theory here], this is another example of Trump's choices being poor ones.

And yes, even though all the TrumpTards will credit Trump for "draining the swamp" should he ever fire Bolton, it should never be forgotten why he's there in the first place.

Bolton is a neo con, a globalist and bought off warmonger.

Can anyone remember who wrote the PNAC report - John Bolton. He said, "for the US to get involved in the ME, the US needed a new galvanizing event like a new Pearl Harbor". Then of course 9/11 happened and America went to the ME. Coincidence?

Nope!

Interviewed by Tucker Carson who asked him "was the war in Iraq a good result"? He responded "yes". A million Iraqis would disagree - if they could.

The man's insane!

So in response to that, my reply is what the other QTard was having a meltdown over.

If you and Rich want to sort it out be my guest. The question still remains, if Bolton is a globalist, does that make Trump one for hand picking him?

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72272 Gender:	Re: US and Iran Reply #49 - Jun 25^th, 2019 at 8:10pm Quote: Iran's President Hassan Rouhani hit back, saying the White House was "afflicted by mental retardation". https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-25/new-us-sanctions-on-iran-supreme-leader-p... In this Instance, Irans leader is absolutely spot on.
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Johnnie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12485 Gender:	Re: US and Iran Reply #50 - Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:40pm Blow up Iran, no nuclear weapons for them.
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Mattyfisk Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 92409 Gender:	Re: US and Iran Reply #51 - Jun 26^th, 2019 at 12:32am Johnnie wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:40pm: Blow up Iran, no nuclear weapons for them. Oh, Bolton would love to do that, Matty. Problem is, Putin wouldn't be too fond of the idea. And we all know how far Mr Trump's prepared to go to make him happy. I hope you're happy too, dear.
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Reply #52 - Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:00am

Mattyfisk wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 12:32am:

Johnnie wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:40pm:

Blow up Iran, no nuclear weapons for them.

Oh, Bolton would love to do that, Matty. Problem is, Putin wouldn't be too fond of the idea.

And we all know how far Mr Trump's prepared to go to make him happy.

I hope you're happy too, dear.

This is not a game of chess, the US is ready to strike.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 131562 Gender:	Re: US and Iran Reply #53 - Jun 26^th, 2019 at 6:44am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:00am: Good to see Trump put sanctions on Ayatollah Khomeini. Lol
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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: US and Iran Reply #54 - Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:37am https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVDT_uBW8Oc A true foreign affairs genius.
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President Elect, The Mechanic Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17501 Gender:	Re: US and Iran Reply #55 - Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:06pm Sorry Rooted.. I don’t deal in IFs and BUTs... Stick with the FACTS and you wont look like such a dickhead...
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Reply #56 - Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:32pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:06pm:

Sorry Rooted..

I don’t deal in IFs and BUTs...

Stick with the FACTS and you wont look like such a dickhead... Roll Eyes

Running from any push back, as usual, you dickhead... Roll Eyes

But we can stick with facts, it's where I feel most comfortable.

Remember when Clinton was deemed unfit for office because she'd start WWIII, what's changed?

Why is War now ok?

If it's not ok, why won't Trump fire Bolton?

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Reply #57 - Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:53pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:32pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:06pm:

Sorry Rooted..

I don’t deal in IFs and BUTs...

Stick with the FACTS and you wont look like such a dickhead... Roll Eyes

Running from any push back, as usual, you dickhead... Roll Eyes

But we can stick with facts, it's where I feel most comfortable.

Remember when Clinton was deemed unfit for office because she'd start WWIII, what's changed?

Why is War now ok?

If it's not ok, why won't Trump fire Bolton?

The Mechanic be all like:

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Reply #58 - Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:28pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:32pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:06pm:

Sorry Rooted..

I don’t deal in IFs and BUTs...

Stick with the FACTS and you wont look like such a dickhead... Roll Eyes

Running from any push back, as usual, you dickhead... Roll Eyes

But we can stick with facts, it's where I feel most comfortable.

Remember when Clinton was deemed unfit for office because she'd start WWIII, what's changed?

Why is War now ok?

If it's not ok, why won't Trump fire Bolton?

Sorry Rooted..

You are wrong again... I’m not running from anything...

I just don’t answer your idiotic fictitious questions.. Roll Eyes

Bolton doesn’t make policy...

President Trump does... and he’s been getting us out of Wars.. NOT into them...

Iran is out of control... they are barbarians who can not be trusted with Nuclear Weapons..

Trump is 100% right with this policy...

Unlike the DNC

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Maxine Waters took to social media Sunday evening to side with Iran over our military intelligence and the President of the United States, prompting an immediate reaction from Rep. Dan Crenshaw.

Waters practically parroted the Iranian regime in claiming the drone that was shot down last week had violated their airspace.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 131562 Gender:	Re: US and Iran Reply #59 - Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:33pm President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:28pm: Iran is out of control... they are barbarians who can not be trusted with Nuclear Weapons.. The US is out of control... they are barbarians who can not be trusted with Nuclear Weapons.
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