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If they are not killing the enemies of Allah
Jun 19^th, 2019 at 11:33am

If they are not fighting and killing the enemies of Allah,
moslems are biding their time, and lying to the enemies of Allah.

bide = = remain or stay in a certain place.
– PHRASES bide one’s time wait quietly for a good opportunity to do something.

QUESTIONS;

Why do moslems so blatantly and shamelessly lie to us ?

And why do your political leaders, choose to continue to pander to this deceitful and dangerous moslem community,
living in our midst ?

Australians could be excused for thinking, that our politicians refusal to address the very real and ongoing threat to the safety of Australian people [the threat posed by this deceitful and dangerous moslem community living in our midst],
that there was barely any evidence to convict that community, of their nefarious intentions towards those, who are not members of their exclusive 'camp'.

But such a 'conclusion' would be very, very wrong.

And of course the moslem vehemently and persistently, denies and conceals his malevolence,
towards non-moslems [whilesoever he is impotent to act upon his convictions].

But that lying deceit, is his wont.

WWW search....

we smile to the face "while our hearts curse them"

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Quote:

July 28, 2006
Islamic Dictionary for Infidels

...Robert Spencer, ..."Religious deception of unbelievers is indeed taught by the Qur'an itself:

"Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers. If any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah; except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them"
(Qur'an 3:28).

In other words, don't make friends with unbelievers except to "guard yourselves from them": pretend to be their friends so that you can strengthen yourself against them. The distinguished Qur'anic commentator Ibn Kathir explains that this verse teaches that if "believers who in some areas or times fear for their safety from the disbelievers," they may "show friendship to the disbelievers outwardly, but never inwardly."

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Yadda said....
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FROM ALLAH'S INSTRUCTION MANUAL FOR MOSLEMS

"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."
Koran 5.51

i.e.
In Koran 5.51, ISLAMIC doctrine declares, that a moslem who makes a sincere friendship with an 'unbeliever', or who openly shows allegiance to an un-ISLAMIC community;
1/ makes himself/herself an 'unbeliever',
2/ becomes an 'apostate'/rebel, and,
3/ is worthy of death, at the hand of good moslems.

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Every disbeliever who rejects ISLAM, is an enemy of Allah.

ALL MOSLEMS KNOW THIS IS THE TRUTH....

FROM ALLAH'S INSTRUCTION MANUAL FOR MOSLEMS

"......the curse of Allah is on those without Faith."
Koran 2.089

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

If any moslem loves an enemy of Allah, he is NOT a moslem.....

ALL MOSLEMS KNOW THIS IS THE TRUTH....

FROM ALLAH'S INSTRUCTION MANUAL FOR MOSLEMS

"Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred...."
Koran 58.22

"O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers."
Koran 9.23

"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."
Koran 5.51

MORE....

« Last Edit: Jun 19^th, 2019 at 11:38am by Yadda »

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: If they are not killing the enemies of Allah
Reply #1 - Jun 19^th, 2019 at 11:34am

CONTINUED....

Spokesmen for ISLAM will tell anyone who will listen;

THAT IT IS WRONG, AND THAT IT IS TOTALLY AGAINST ISLAMIC LAW, TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE.

Here is a moslem in the UK explaining, who the innocent people are.

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Please watch this YT...
A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;

Quote:

KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE

"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."

"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9I-sj_8VK24

updated YT link

the OLD YT link

The

YOUTUBE

site, does not want you to view that video.

Why so ?

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ALL MOSLEMS KNOW THIS IS THE TRUTH....

THE JIHAD, THE FIGHTING, IS OBLIGATORY ON YOU WHEREVER YOU CAN PERFORM IT.

Quote:

In 1988, Osama Bin Laden's mentor, Abdullah Azzam, visited and preached in Oklahoma that, "The Jihad, the fighting, is obligatory on you wherever you can perform it. The word Jihad means fighting only, fighting with the sword".

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/11987/us-mosques-muslims-incitement

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Yadda wrote on Jun 17^th, 2019 at 5:45pm:

Every moslem, every moslem, every moslem, ...is urged by the doctrines of his/her religion,

...to hate and to murder 'disbelievers' in the name of their religion.

THAT, is what the JIHAD is.

And choosing to deny that truth, ...won't make it untrue.

WWW search....

al Walaa wal Baraa

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'Aussie' EX-moslem, Mohamed Elomar, doing 'good works' in Syria/Iraq.

Quote:

'Whosoever dies without participating in an expedition (jihad) nor having the intention to do so, dies on a branch of hypocrisy,'

- 'Aussie' EX-moslem, Mohamed Elomar, quoting ISLAMIC scripture.

n.b.
Mohamed Elomar grew up in Australia.

And he was an individual who had every opportunity to be a peaceful and productive part of our Australian community and nation.

But under the influence of his religion, ISLAM, Mohamed Elomar chose to be
an enemy of ALL OF MANKIND.

....just as mainstream ISLAMIC doctrine dictates.

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freediver wrote on May 18^th, 2019 at 3:51pm:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hizb_ut-Tahrir#Jihad

HT texts define Jihad as "war undertaken for the sake of Allah (swt) to raise high His (swt)[Note 23] word" and requiring an army (Institutions of State in the Khilafah).[143][144] They declare the necessity of jihad so that Da'wah will be carried "to all mankind" and will "bring them into the Khilafah state," and the importance of declaring "Jihad against the Kuffar without any lenience or hesitation;" (Ummah's Charter),[125][145] as well as the need to fight unbelievers who refuse to be ruled by Islam, even if they pay tribute (The Islamic Personality).

MORE....

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: If they are not killing the enemies of Allah
Reply #2 - Jun 19^th, 2019 at 11:34am

CONTINUED....

THE HOSTILITY AND HATRED OF NON-MOSLEMS, WHICH IS FREELY EXPRESSED, 'IN CAMP'

....is not far below the surface, of the moslem consciousness.

Quote:

November 10, 2008
Raymond Ibrahim: "Islam's Doctrines of Deception"

...."As to the relationship between Muslims and infidels, this is summarized by the Most High's Word: ‘We renounce you. Enmity and hate shall forever reign between us -- till you believe in Allah alone’ [Koran 60:4].

So there is an enmity, evidenced by fierce hostility from the heart.

And this fierce hostility -- that is, battle -- ceases only if the infidel submits to the authority of Islam, or if his blood is forbidden from being shed [i.e., a dhimmi], or if Muslims are at that point in time weak and incapable [i.e., taqiyya].

But if the hate at any time extinguishes from the heart, this is great apostasy!

Such, then, is the basis and foundation of the relationship between the infidel and the Muslim.

Battle, animosity, and hatred -- directed from the Muslim to the infidel -- is the foundation of our religion.

And we consider this a justice and kindness to them" (from The Al Qaeda Reader).

.....It bears repeating that this hostile world view is well supported by all of Islam’s schools of jurisprudence."

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/11/raymond-ibrahim-islams-doctrines-of-deception....

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ARGUMENT;
No lie or falsehood spoken against [to defeat] the enemy of Allah, is too egregious, or too shockingly false to be uttered,
if that lie or falsehood can further 'the cause of Allah' [i.e. the spread of the influence of ISLAM],
and if in its application, it would weaken the camp of the enemy, of Allah's religion.

WWW search....

taqiyya - the muslim doctrine of deceit

Quote:

Taqiyya

“Speaking is a means to achieve objectives
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If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish it through lying because there is no need for it.

When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible..., and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory.

...One should compare the bad consequences entailed by lying to those entailed by telling the truth, and if the consequences of telling the truth are more damaging, one is entitled to lie...”

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With all seriousness, many local moslems can tell us, that;

"We, our whole community, opposes terrorism!"

But with the sophistry of a deceitful mind, the moslem does not inform the hearer, that the moslem chooses to define the English language term, 'terrorism', as any action or effort, which works to oppose the spread of the influence of ISLAM and ISLAMIC law.

So the next time you hear a moslem declare that his community opposes 'terrorism',
just ask him this;

"Do you condemn the killing those people who oppose the spread of the influence of ISLAM and the influence of ISLAMIC law?"

And then, listen very carefully to which [weasel] words that moslem chooses to utter, in his response to your direct question.

Listen for, expect, sophistry. [....listen for, the use of words which can be interpreted, 'liberally'.]

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Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami

Quote:

How Circumstance Dictates Islamic Behavior

January 18, 2012

Preach Peace When Weak, Wage War When Strong

"...all notions of peace with non-Muslims are based on circumstance.

When Muslims are weak, they should be peaceful; when strong, they should go on the offensive."

Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami - an ISLAMIC scholar and Egyptian Salafi leader
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/how-circumstance-dictates-isla...

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Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1409991405/8#8
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Promoting and encouraging violent and unlawful acts is illegal.

We live in a country in which the people supposedly respect the rule of law.

Without widespread respect for the law of the land, we [our Australian society] would descend into being like Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Libya, Somalia, etc, etc - which is exactly what moslems are trying to achieve.

Moslems want to destroy all of the institutions in Australia, which help to maintain a peaceful and functioning society.

SUGGESTION;
If you live in Australia and you don't like what ISLAM promotes then you should contact your federal parliamentary representative - EXPLAIN TO HIM/HER WHY YOU DO NOT LIKE ISLAM AND MOSLEMS - and encourage your federal parliamentary representative to try to get ISLAM lawfully declared a proscribed [banned] group in Australia.

Act within the law.

Otherwise we are no better than moslems.

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: If they are not killing the enemies of Allah
Reply #5 - Jun 21^st, 2019 at 4:47am

If you had carefully read the Quran you would notice that the interpretation you offer contradicts the Quran. And there are no contradictions in the Quran.

An-nisaa 89: "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks;-"

An-nisaa 90: "Except those who join a group between whom and you there is a treaty (of peace), or those who approach you with hearts restraining them from fighting you as well as fighting their own people. If Allah had pleased, He could have given them power over you, and they would have fought you: Therefore if they withdraw from you but fight you not, and (instead) send you (Guarantees of) peace, then Allah Hath opened no way for you (to war against them)."

Al-Mumtahana 8: "Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just."

Al-mumtahana 9: "Allah only forbids you, with regard to those who fight you for (your) Faith, and drive you out of your homes, and support (others) in driving you out, from turning to them (for friendship and protection). It is such as turn to them (in these circumstances), that do wrong."

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Re: If they are not killing the enemies of Allah
Reply #6 - Jun 21^st, 2019 at 10:44am

Faruk wrote on Jun 21^st, 2019 at 4:47am:

If you had carefully read the Quran you would notice that the interpretation you offer contradicts the Quran. And there are no contradictions in the Quran.

The Quran is full of contradictions for some reason muslims are in denial about these contradictions.

Here is one-

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Sahih International

And from the fruits of the palm trees and grapevines you take intoxicant and good provision. Indeed in that is a sign for a people who reason.

https://quran.com/16/67

What do the Tafsirs say about that verse?
Quote:

And of the fruits of date-palms and vines comes forth a fruit from which you draw an intoxicant a wine that intoxicates — it the wine is referred to by the verbal noun sakaran ‘intoxicant’ and this verse came before it was prohibited — and goodly provision such as dates raisins vinegar and molasses. Surely in that which is mentioned there is a sign indicating His power exalted be He for a people who understand a people who reflect.
https://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=0&tTafsirNo=74&tSoraNo=16&tAyahNo=6...

If you read the fine print in the Quran it clearly says this book is not from Allah.

Quote:

Then do they not reflect upon the Qur'an? If it had been from [any] other than Allah, they would have found within it much contradiction.

https://quran.com/4/82

Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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Re: If they are not killing the enemies of Allah
Reply #7 - Jun 21^st, 2019 at 11:09am

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 21^st, 2019 at 10:44am:

If you read the fine print in the Quran it clearly says this book is not from Allah.

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Then do they not reflect upon the Qur'an? If it had been from [any] other than Allah, they would have found within it much contradiction.

What do you perceive as a contradiction there? That Allah (subhaanhu wa ta'ala) said that that from which intoxicants are made are created by Him?

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