Gnads wrote on Jun 19
th, 2019 at 9:59am:
PZ547 wrote on Jun 19
th, 2019 at 9:48am:
Gnads wrote on Jun 19
th, 2019 at 9:41am:
Well the Victorian Govt has at least done one good thing .....
It's introduced new VAD(Voluntary Assisted Death) laws for the terminally ill that come into effect next month.
Something right for once.
Wish it were so
they've created a maze to be run by those who simply are driven by pain and desperation to escape the prison of their physical body
must be terminally ill and destined to die within twelve months of submission, for example
must have this, do that, etc
which is what drove the fireman father of three or four to opt for Dignitas
Vic govt. CLAIM they've 'allowed' people to die
but typically, have created as many hurdles to jump, almost, as if the law had never been passed
and NO one has explained or justified a government (of the people, by the people, for the people -- our temporary employees in other words) assuming the right to tell people whether or not they have the right to exit their physical bodies !!
What gives government the right to decide ?
and while we're at it, what qualifies the religious community (supposedly SERVANTS in the service of God) to say anything at ALL about voluntary euthanasia aka a person deciding he's had a gutful of his life ?
So not far enough, Vic govt. Nowhere NEAR far enough
and it will do nothing to stem the deliberate drivings into trees and trucks or people jumping under trains, or ending up in coma because they used pills
and when you realise that governments and religions are permitted by law to prevent you from ending your life -- you are forced to ask,
Who's life is it?
and from the halls of government and the church comes a smirking response: '
Not yours matey'
Yes I did hear some of the qualifying stipulations.
And you're right ... in that case it doesn't go far enough.
So I probably jumped the gun when I saw what looked to be a positive from a govt. for once.
And I agree, what right do self righteous religious arsehole and govt have over what a person does with their life/body.
Look at the US with the mass legislation outlawing abortion in the US .....
the Right to Lifers exerting their will over women making decisions about their body and with their reproductive choices.
You're not the only one to have silently given a shout of joy when it was first announced. Politicians crying on the floor of parliament because it had passed. And people everywhere congratulating the pollies for their bravery, etc.
then I read the fine print. And it's a nightmare for anyone who simply has had enough and wants to go. In their case, not a hope. Only for those due to die within 12 months, must have this and sign that and this within twelve days, must be approved by a gang of doctors, on and on
but -- they get to claim they're ground-breakers
For the 'elite', however, different story
Does anyone believe Bob Hawke died in agony?
Remember years ago when it was known that the Queen's grandfather was euthanised for the sake of convenience? Finished him off. Not that it was a bad thing. Doctors provided a merciful end for the rank and file on regular basis, just as they chose not to slap to life newborns with debilitating conditions. People were able to rely on teh good old doc. Then came the litigation. Then the massive increase doctors had to pay in insurance as result. Then the holy rollers twisted governments' arms -- no votes and no donations if you don't stop people from dying when they want
and now the abortion controversies
There has to be more to this self-righteousness
first, they're spreading world populations as if they were butter. Here you go Europe -- we're sending you a minimum of 50 million from the african continent. We've decided you need 'colouring up'. And more to come. And we'll say it's because all the ghastly old pensioners are killing younger generations with their endless demands
No. No more abortions. We don't care that you already have six starvlings at home. Pop em out and shut up. And we're going to force lots of poppings via LAWS
then you remember the faint whispers which occasionally make it to the whore media's surface -- such as world populations will top out in a few decades and begin to decline
now it involves consumers of the future. Profits of the future
so suddenly, despite the endless warnings about over population, the LAW makers want MORE populations
profits
money
cannon fodder
keeping the elites in the style to which they've long been accustomed
Get those human farm animals BREEDING
doesn't matter about quality
the elite care only about quantity
Breed you bugger, breed
and you sick and dying and the 'wanna leave' people -- shut up. You'll leave when we say you can
and not before we've taxed you for life, then taxed you some more and then make you pay through the nose for disposal of your rotting corpse, and then tax your descendants on every cent you've scraped together in order to leave them
and politicians actually CRIED when they passed the voluntary euthanasia bill
pass the tissues to those it will not help at all