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Is the Bible more cunning than the Quran? (Read 13094 times)
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Re: Is the Bible more cunning than the Quran?
Reply #30 - Jun 16th, 2019 at 3:40pm
 

A 4000 (or there about) year old account of the Hebrews and their war with the Amalekites, yes they were told to wipe them out, it is finished there was not one single word about keeping on killing people until the whole globe practices Judaism.

It has absolutely nothing to do with anything today.

The problem today is, the muzzies are the global terrorists because the evil in their book motivates terrorism.
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Re: Is the Bible more cunning than the Quran?
Reply #31 - Jun 16th, 2019 at 8:47pm
 
Excuses, excuses, excuses.  You obviously believe the Jews were justified in committing Genocide, Moses.  Shame on you.  Shame on them.   Next you'll be telling us it was the fairies that killed all of them Amalekites?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Is the Bible more cunning than the Quran?
Reply #32 - Jun 17th, 2019 at 3:46pm
 
It has got absolutely nothing to do with today 2019 and a qur'an which promotes the rape torture and slaughter of all non believers until all religion is for allah.

Why do you continually run away from the problems of today the 21st century, by quoting some obsolete history about the Ancient Hebrews?
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Re: Is the Bible more cunning than the Quran?
Reply #33 - Jun 17th, 2019 at 4:11pm
 
moses wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 3:46pm:
It has got absolutely nothing to do with today 2019 and a qur'an which promotes the rape torture and slaughter of all non believers until all religion is for allah.

Why do you continually run away from the problems of today the 21st century, by quoting some obsolete history about the Ancient Hebrews?


Who first mentioned the Amalekites, Moses?   Roll Eyes

Seem to me that your Islamophobia is showing, again.  Muslims == Evil.  Jews == Good, right?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Is the Bible more cunning than the Quran?
Reply #34 - Jun 17th, 2019 at 4:21pm
 
Today the 21st century 2019, that's exactly how it goes.

Jews = Good

muslims = evil
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Re: Is the Bible more cunning than the Quran?
Reply #35 - Jun 17th, 2019 at 4:30pm
 
moses wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 4:21pm:
Today the 21st century 2019, that's exactly how it goes.

Jews = Good

muslims = evil


Never spoken to a Palestinian have you, Moses?   Roll Eyes

No, of course not, they'd be more than likely a Muslim, right?  You don't talk to Muslims do you, 'cause they are evil incarnate, right?   Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes
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Re: Is the Bible more cunning than the Quran?
Reply #36 - Jun 17th, 2019 at 4:47pm
 
The muslims are the global terrorists.

The muslims have sworn to practice genocide against the Jews.

Why their *holy* teachings tell us that trees and rocks are actually going to help them kill all the Jews.
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Re: Is the Bible more cunning than the Quran?
Reply #37 - Jun 18th, 2019 at 10:01am
 
moses wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 2:43pm:
Why are people trying to use the teachings of Moses, roughly 4000 years ago which were time, geography and people specific, to try and excuse the qur'an and the supremacist evil being practiced by muslims around the globe today 2019.

The Hebrews were not told to spread Judaism across the globe, they had one place in mind the promised land.
http://www.differentspirit.org/articles/images/promised_land2.jpg

Conversely the muzzies are told that islam will dominate the entire globe.

The rape torture and slaughter to control the world is the theme of islam


They were indeed, Moses - by Jehovah.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 2:58pm:
moses wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 2:27pm:
Deuteronomy 1:1 These be the words which Moses spake unto all Israel on this side Jordan in the wilderness, in the plain over against the Red sea, between Paran, and Tophel, and Laban, and Hazeroth, and Dizahab.


Deuteronomy is the words of one man, Moses. He claimed that he was telling the Hebrews what God wanted them to do.

The whole thing is a collection of laws and regulations plus the violence to be used in the taking of the promised land.

It is time, people and geography specific.

All the Hebrews were after was the promised land, nothing more.

Today the Jews are not in the least bit interested in turning the entire world into a Jewish State.

In this regard it is the antithesis of islam, global dominance by islam is the stated aim of the qur'an.

The whole theme is that eventually islam will dominate the world.


Muslims claim the same about chapter 9 - especially by reference to a very specific group of people -  "those [mushrikeen] with whom you had made a treaty" - in the very first verse.

And yet, people like you and FD latch on to the one small phrase "kill the mushrikeen wherever ye find them" - claiming it is open-ended and without qualification. This is despite the fact that this one phrase is in the clear context of a specific group of polytheists who had, at that point in time, had treaties.

Do you see the double standards moses? Deuteronomy 10-15 is *ENTIRELY* open ended and without qualification. Just like 9:5 is entirely open ended and without qualification - *IF* taken in isolation and ignoring the very first verse of the chapter. Interestingly enough, as you demonstrate, Deuteronomy 20:10-15 also has a context in the very first verse of the chapter. And yet, you maintain that one is restrained by context, but not the other.


Cunning, no?
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Re: Is the Bible more cunning than the Quran?
Reply #38 - Jun 18th, 2019 at 11:30am
 
moses wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 4:21pm:
Today the 21st century 2019, that's exactly how it goes.

Jews = Good

muslims = evil


You see how cunning they are? Kill off entire races of people to take their land, as directed by their sinister book, the Bible.

Then, after WWII, they use this precedent to conduct terrorist attacks upon the British in Palestine to take back said land.

Then, during the 67 war, they expand into Egypt, Lebanon and Syria, taking even more land.

This most certainly is an issue today, Moses. I think you'll find that Deuteronomy verse and the issue of "promised" land is one of the Middle East's most critical points of contention.

You?
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Re: Is the Bible more cunning than the Quran?
Reply #39 - Jun 18th, 2019 at 4:38pm
 
Israel has been a hotbed of contention for 6000 years gandi

Didn't the muslims take Israel by force, then they eventually lost it, tough titties ring any bells gandi?

Who says muslims have any more rights that the Jews who own it now, the muslims did not treat any non believer as equal when they owned it, now they whinge and whine always playing the victim. 

History of Jerusalem: History of Jerusalem: Table of Contents

Chalcolithic Period (4500-3200 BCE) •3500 BCE - First Settlement of Jerusalem

Early Bronze Age (3200-2220 BCE)

•2500 BCE - First Houses Built in Area

Middle Bronze Age (2220-1550 BCE)
•1800 BCE - Construction of First City Wall

Late Bronze Age (1550-1200 BCE)
•1400 BCE - First Mention of Jerusalem in Cuneiform Amarna Letters

Iron Age I (1200-1000 BCE)
•1200 BCE - Jerusalem is conquered by Canaanites (Jebusites)

Iron Age II (1000-529 BCE)
•1000 BCE - King David Conquers Jerusalem; Declares City Capital of Jewish Kingdom
•960 BCE - David's Son, King Solomon, Builds First Jewish Temple
•721 BCE - Assyrians Conquer Samaria; Refugees Flee to Jerusalem and City Expands onto Western Hill
•701 BCE - Assyrian Ruler Sennacherib Lays Seige to Jerusalem
•586 BCE - Babylonian Forces Destroy Jerusalem and Demolish First Temple

Persian Period (539-322 BCE)
•539 BCE - Persian Ruler Cyrus the Great Conquers Babylonian Empire, Including Jerusalem
•516 BCE - Cyrus Permits Jews in Bablyonian Exile to Return to Jerusalem; Second Temple Built
•445-425 BCE - Nehemiah the Prophet Rebuilds the Walls of Jerusalem; City Confined to Eastern Hill

Hellenistic Period (332-141 BCE)
•332 BCE - Greek Leader Alexander the Great Conquers Judea and Jerusalem
•332-141 BCE - Ptolemaic and Seleucid Rule in Jerusalem

Hasmonean Period (141-37 BCE)
•141 BCE - Hasmonean Dynasty Begins; Jerusalem Again Expands Limits to Western Hill
•63 BCE - Roman General Pompey captures Jerusalem

Herodian Period (37 BCE - 70 CE)
•37 BCE - King Herod Restructures Second Temple, Adds Retaining Walls
•30 CE - Jesus Crucified by Romans in Jerusalem

Roman Period (70 - 324 CE)
•70 CE - Roman Forces Destroy Jerusalem and Demolish Second Temple
•135 CE - Jerusalem Rebuilt as a Roman City

Byzantine Period (324-638 CE)
•335 CE - Church of the Holy Sepulchre Built
•614 CE - Persians Capture Jerusalem
•629 CE - Byzantine Christians Recapture Jerusalem from Persians

First Muslim Period (638-1099 CE)
•638 CE - Caliph Omar Enters Jerusalem
•661-750 CE - Jerusalem Ruled Under Umayyad Dynasty
•691 CE - Dome of the Rock Built on Site of Destroyed Jewish Temples
•750-974 CE - Jerusalem Ruled Under Abassid Dynasty

Crusader Period (1099-1187 CE)
•1099 CE - First Crusaders Capture Jerusalem

Ayyubid Period (1187-1259 CE)
•1187 CE - Saladin Captures Jerusalem from Crusaders
•1229-1244 CE - Crusaders Briefly Recapture Jerusalem Two Times

Mamluk Period (1250-1516)
•1250 - Muslim Caliph Dismantles Walls of Jerusalem; Population Rapidly Declines

Ottoman Period (1516-1917)
•1517 - Ottoman Empire Captures Jerusalem
•1538-1541 - Suleiman the Magnificent Rebuilds the Walls of Jerusalem

British Mandate (1917-1948)
•1917 - British Capture Jerusalem in World War I

Divided City (1948-1967)
•1948 - State of Israel Established; Jerusalem Divided By Armistice Lines Between Israel & Jordan

Reunification (1967-Present)
•1967 - Israel Captures Jerusalem's Old City and Eastern Half; Reunites City
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Re: Is the Bible more cunning than the Quran?
Reply #40 - Jun 18th, 2019 at 6:52pm
 
You don't want to say, I see.

No worries, Moses. Much of the Bible is not only written in the future tense, it's apocalyptic. It heralds the end of time, where we "surely shall be judged". This is the entire point of the Bible.

Christians, after St Paul, believe that once the Jew takes back the land he stole from those he genocided, the end of the world is nigh. That land, of course, is state of Israel, meaning "struggle with God".

Indeed, the Bible is so future-focussed, the gospels quote their prophet Yeheshua: "I am the beginning and the end, the Alpha and the Omega".

And:

"He who is first shall be last; he who is last shall be first".

And:

"The meek shall inherit the Kingdom".

You?
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Reply #41 - Jun 18th, 2019 at 7:11pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Jun 18th, 2019 at 11:30am:
moses wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 4:21pm:
Today the 21st century 2019, that's exactly how it goes.

Jews = Good

muslims = evil


You see how cunning they are? Kill off entire races of people to take their land, as directed by their sinister book, the Bible.

Then, after WWII, they use this precedent to conduct terrorist attacks upon the British in Palestine to take back said land.

Then, during the 67 war, they expand into Egypt, Lebanon and Syria, taking even more land.

This most certainly is an issue today, Moses. I think you'll find that Deuteronomy verse and the issue of "promised" land is one of the Middle East's most critical points of contention.

You?


What he ^^^^^^^ said.
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Re: Is the Bible more cunning than the Quran?
Reply #42 - Jun 19th, 2019 at 1:35pm
 
Nothing in the Christian doctrine is about Christians having to be the judge and jury of mankind, the opposite in fact, it predicts the extreme persecution of Christians in the end times, it says that all men will be judged by God / Christ.

muzzies believe the exact opposite, they are the killers who will force all men to bow down to allah in the end times.

No the O.T. violence about taking the promises land is obsolete and ignored, the Jews are home now 2019, the threat to the entire globe today is from none other than muslims, not Jews, not Christians, muslims are the threat.

Those are the facts as it stands right now the 21st century 2019, no matter how many smoke screens the muzzie/loony leftard duo try and whip up, islam and the qur'an is the global threat.
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Reply #43 - Jun 19th, 2019 at 1:38pm
 
moses wrote on Jun 19th, 2019 at 1:35pm:
Nothing in the Christian doctrine is about Christians having to be the judge and jury of mankind, the opposite in fact,


Quite so. Are you a Christian, Moses?

I'm curious.
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Re: Is the Bible more cunning than the Quran?
Reply #44 - Jun 19th, 2019 at 2:51pm
 
I'm the bloke who lives down the road from you, across the street, up the road, in the towns, in the cities, in the bush, in the west, in the east, in the north and south.

I'm actually gaining in numbers at an unimaginable speed around the world.

How's that you say?

Well islam and its' doctrine of putrid evilness is the root cause of all our global islamic terrorism.

If islamic terrorism was confined solely to muzzie killing muzzie insanity, it wouldn't be the problem it is today. (and I wouldn't be increasing like I am)

You see the muzzies still believe that the non believers around the globe have to be bought into the land of dar al-islam, so that all religion will be for allah, so they take the liberty of killing thousands of innocent nonbelievers with all kinds of pursuits which will put the jihadist on the ensured path to the big brothel in the sky.

I proclaim loudly that islamic terrorism is the brainchild of the now deceased, deformed, thief, liar, pedophile, rapist, torturer and mass murderer muhammad.

muhammad was the only author of islam, so the cult is a mirror image of his persona.

Well evil begets evil they say, so it's only natural that the qur'an projects islamic terrorism, this terrorism will never die while islam remains in the state it is in now, the only hope is for muslims to take responsibility for islamic terrorism and denounce the extreme inhumanity it preaches ( sadly we have *moderate* muslims and their loony leftard apologists who don't want to clean islam up, so the good fight goes on for a bit longer yet
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