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Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:47pm
 

Australian, Ace electric vehicles


https://www.ace-ev.com.au/ace-cargo/



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Mentioned on a Ch7 news item tonight.

Charge at home ??
How much to buy ??

Only 250 km range atm though.     ....i could live with a 250 km range atm.

They are offering versions as a cargo van, a 'yewt', and a sedan.

Promoted as a German developed vehicle, Chinese produce/parts, comes as a 'flat pack', 'put it together' product, delivered in 6 boxes.

???

Looks interesting, if it 'works' as advertised.


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Reply #1 - Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:45pm
 
Instead of so called 1500 lousy jobs in the stinken Adani coal mine there are tens of thousands of prospective jobs building these electric vehicles along with the charging infrastructure to go with it but it seems the lying liberal scumbags are not interested in jobs that bypass greed incorporated for their energy needs even though there are a lot more jobs in it Sad
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Reply #2 - Jun 13th, 2019 at 10:02pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:45pm:
Instead of so called 1500 lousy jobs in the stinken Adani coal mine there are tens of thousands of prospective jobs building these electric vehicles along with the charging infrastructure to go with it but it seems the lying liberal scumbags are not interested in jobs that bypass greed incorporated for their energy needs even though there are a lot more jobs in it Sad


Australians only buy imported Japanese or European vehicles.

The government learned its lesson with the previous car industry where the subsidy to car manufacturers was more than the jobs were worth.
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Reply #3 - Jun 13th, 2019 at 10:44pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 10:02pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:45pm:
Instead of so called 1500 lousy jobs in the stinken Adani coal mine there are tens of thousands of prospective jobs building these electric vehicles along with the charging infrastructure to go with it but it seems the lying liberal scumbags are not interested in jobs that bypass greed incorporated for their energy needs even though there are a lot more jobs in it Sad


Australians only buy imported Japanese or European vehicles.

The government learned its lesson with the previous car industry where the subsidy to car manufacturers was more than the jobs were worth.


The problem with the car industry was the government kept throwing money at foreign corporations with no checks and balances. Who in private enterprise would ever do a deal like this where you have no equity in a business you invest in. Own none of the intellectual property. Own none of the manufacturing equipment or the land it is bolted onto. It was always going to be a bad deal and it was.

One other hand this local electric car manufacturer got the bums rush from the then Labor Government who were too busy doling out blank cheques to Detroit and Tokyo Sad

https://www.smh.com.au/national/electric-car-maker-angry-over-import-deal-201007...

Quote:
Electric car maker angry over import deal

AUSTRALIA'S leading electric car manufacturer has blasted the federal government for choosing an imported model to be Australia's first electric trial fleet.

In June, the federal Minister for Transport and Infrastructure, Anthony Albanese, announced that the government would be buying 40 imported Mitsubishi i-Miev electric vehicles as a way of encouraging the uptake of electric vehicles.

But Castlemaine-based Blade Electric Vehicles said the decision was inexplicable given that its car, the Blade Electron, was better, cheaper, and had been developed with federal government funding.

''We cannot understand why Mr Albanese has chosen to exclude the Electron,'' said Ross Blade, director of BEV.

''The federal government has spent over $100,000 of taxpayers' money on the development of the Blade Electron through the COMET (Commercialising Emerging Technologies) program. Despite the Electron meeting Australia's design standards, the federal government has chosen instead to lease a foreign product at nearly double the cost.''

Mr Blade said that Mitsubishi was leasing the i-Miev for $1740 a month for a total cost over three years of $62,640. This compared with $900 a month for the Electron, for a total cost over three years of $48,000.

Mr Blade said the Electron was a bigger car with superior performance to the i-Miev and, more importantly, could be plugged into a regular power point for recharging.

However, a spokesman for Mr Albanese, Geoff Sinclair, said the government did not choose the Blade Electron because it was not a mass-produced car and did not meet two Australian design standards, although he could not say which ones.

Mr Blade said that if the Australian government was not going to buy a locally made electric car, it stood little chance of being mass produced.

''In terms of our vehicle being mass produced, the fact of the matter is that if the Australian government is not going to buy them, then how can they be mass produced?

''It's a chicken and egg thing.''

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Reply #4 - Jun 14th, 2019 at 7:23am
 
Yadda wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:47pm:

Australian, Ace electric vehicles


https://www.ace-ev.com.au/ace-cargo/



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https://www.ace-ev.com.au/wp-content/uploads/ACE-Cargo-website.jpg



Mentioned on a Ch7 news item tonight.

Charge at home ??
How much to buy ??

Only 250 km range atm though.     ....i could live with a 250 km range atm.

They are offering versions as a cargo van, a 'yewt', and a sedan.

Promoted as a German developed vehicle, Chinese produce/parts, comes as a 'flat pack', 'put it together' product, delivered in 6 boxes.

???

Looks interesting, if it 'works' as advertised.



there have been a few threads on this vehicle so far, they look good and their price is mentioned
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1556714464

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1554003124
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Reply #5 - Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:19pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 10:44pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 10:02pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:45pm:
Instead of so called 1500 lousy jobs in the stinken Adani coal mine there are tens of thousands of prospective jobs building these electric vehicles along with the charging infrastructure to go with it but it seems the lying liberal scumbags are not interested in jobs that bypass greed incorporated for their energy needs even though there are a lot more jobs in it Sad


Australians only buy imported Japanese or European vehicles.

The government learned its lesson with the previous car industry where the subsidy to car manufacturers was more than the jobs were worth.


The problem with the car industry was the government kept throwing money at foreign corporations with no checks and balances. Who in private enterprise would ever do a deal like this where you have no equity in a business you invest in. Own none of the intellectual property. Own none of the manufacturing equipment or the land it is bolted onto. It was always going to be a bad deal and it was.

On the other hand this local electric car manufacturer got the bums rush from the then Labor Government who were too busy doling out blank cheques to Detroit and Tokyo Sad

https://www.smh.com.au/national/electric-car-maker-angry-over-import-deal-201007...

Quote:
Electric car maker angry over import deal

AUSTRALIA'S leading electric car manufacturer has blasted the federal government for choosing an imported model to be Australia's first electric trial fleet.

In June, the federal Minister for Transport and Infrastructure, Anthony Albanese, announced that the government would be buying 40 imported Mitsubishi i-Miev electric vehicles as a way of encouraging the uptake of electric vehicles.

But Castlemaine-based Blade Electric Vehicles said the decision was inexplicable given that its car, the Blade Electron, was better, cheaper, and had been developed with federal government funding.

''We cannot understand why Mr Albanese has chosen to exclude the Electron,'' said Ross Blade, director of BEV.

''The federal government has spent over $100,000 of taxpayers' money on the development of the Blade Electron through the COMET (Commercialising Emerging Technologies) program. Despite the Electron meeting Australia's design standards, the federal government has chosen instead to lease a foreign product at nearly double the cost.''

Mr Blade said that Mitsubishi was leasing the i-Miev for $1740 a month for a total cost over three years of $62,640. This compared with $900 a month for the Electron, for a total cost over three years of $48,000.

Mr Blade said the Electron was a bigger car with superior performance to the i-Miev and, more importantly, could be plugged into a regular power point for recharging.

However, a spokesman for Mr Albanese, Geoff Sinclair, said the government did not choose the Blade Electron because it was not a mass-produced car and did not meet two Australian design standards, although he could not say which ones.

Mr Blade said that if the Australian government was not going to buy a locally made electric car, it stood little chance of being mass produced.

''In terms of our vehicle being mass produced, the fact of the matter is that if the Australian government is not going to buy them, then how can they be mass produced?

''It's a chicken and egg thing.''


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Reply #6 - Jun 27th, 2019 at 6:22pm
 
And just think coal power is used to recharge these rather useless all electric heaps.

Overload one of electric toys and you will overheat the dangerous fire bomb lithium battery with the very real danger that it will then EXPLODE in a FIERY INFERNO!!!!!

Hydrogen does not have any of these overloading problems as it just goes and goes like a diesel.

That is why IT IS THE FUEL of the FUTURE.
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Reply #7 - Jul 1st, 2019 at 3:36pm
 
juliar wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 6:22pm:
And just think coal power is used to recharge these rather useless all electric heaps.

Overload one of electric toys and you will overheat the dangerous fire bomb lithium battery with the very real danger that it will then EXPLODE in a FIERY INFERNO!!!!!

Hydrogen does not have any of these overloading problems as it just goes and goes like a diesel.

That is why IT IS THE FUEL of the FUTURE.


And lots of
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power coming from rooftop solar if you are smart and not dumb and dumber like supporters of the LNP who let private scammers run the electricity grid Sad

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Reply #8 - Jul 1st, 2019 at 4:08pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 3:36pm:
juliar wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 6:22pm:
And just think coal power is used to recharge these rather useless all electric heaps.

Overload one of electric toys and you will overheat the dangerous fire bomb lithium battery with the very real danger that it will then EXPLODE in a FIERY INFERNO!!!!!

Hydrogen does not have any of these overloading problems as it just goes and goes like a diesel.

That is why IT IS THE FUEL of the FUTURE.


And lots of
FREE
power coming from rooftop solar if you are smart and not dumb and dumber like supporters of the LNP who let private scammers run the electricity grid Sad



How is solar power free when solar panels and batteries cost over $15K?

Do you even have a house to put solar panels on?
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Reply #9 - Jul 1st, 2019 at 7:02pm
 
Baron, these looney Greeny trolls are incapable of doing the sums about solar.

One poster calculated you need 7 fully charged Tesla PowerWalls to recharge a Tesla overnight.

Now as solar only works for a few hours around midday, if the sun is shining, then imagine the HUGE north facing roof covered in many solar panels you would need to charge up the 7 PowerWall batteries!!!!!

Tough luck in winter when it is overcast and raining all day and when there is a hail storm and the solar panels get clobbered!!!

And in summer during a dry spell when the solar panels get covered in dust and bird droppings!!!

These looney Greenies are just so impractical and so technically obtuse.
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Reply #10 - Jul 2nd, 2019 at 9:43pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 4:08pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 3:36pm:
juliar wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 6:22pm:
And just think coal power is used to recharge these rather useless all electric heaps.

Overload one of electric toys and you will overheat the dangerous fire bomb lithium battery with the very real danger that it will then EXPLODE in a FIERY INFERNO!!!!!

Hydrogen does not have any of these overloading problems as it just goes and goes like a diesel.

That is why IT IS THE FUEL of the FUTURE.


And lots of
FREE
power coming from rooftop solar if you are smart and not dumb and dumber like supporters of the LNP who let private scammers run the electricity grid Sad



How is solar power free when solar panels and batteries cost over $15K?

Do you even have a house to put solar panels on?
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6.6 kilowatt PV installs for 2.5K with rebates Wink

And how much does it cost to fill up the clunker each year plus service and parts ? And what is PULP at the moment ? $1.90 a liter Sad

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Reply #11 - Jul 2nd, 2019 at 9:46pm
 
juliar wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 7:02pm:
Baron, these looney Greeny trolls are incapable of doing the sums about solar.

One poster calculated you need 7 fully charged Tesla PowerWalls to recharge a Tesla overnight.

Now as solar only works for a few hours around midday, if the sun is shining, then imagine the HUGE north facing roof covered in many solar panels you would need to charge up the 7 PowerWall batteries!!!!!

Tough luck in winter when it is overcast and raining all day and when there is a hail storm and the solar panels get clobbered!!!

And in summer during a dry spell when the solar panels get covered in dust and bird droppings!!!

These looney Greenies are just so impractical and so technically obtuse.


A lot of people work from home these days socko so it's a very good deal for them Wink No equivalent for the fossil fool clunkers though. It's straight down to the fossil fool bowser to take it up the arse Sad
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Reply #12 - Jul 3rd, 2019 at 9:47am
 
Heavens! Talking about intelligent stuff has made the looney Greeny Tweedledumb fall out of her tree.
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Reply #13 - Jul 3rd, 2019 at 11:15am
 
juliar wrote on Jul 3rd, 2019 at 9:47am:
Heavens! Talking about intelligent stuff has made the looney Greeny Tweedledumb fall out of her tree.


copy and pastes his own posts Cheesy LOL
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Reply #14 - Jul 3rd, 2019 at 11:29am
 
Heavens! Talking about intelligent stuff has made the looney Greeny Tweedledumb fall out of her tree.

These looney Greenies are just so impractical and so technically obtuse.
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