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Jun 13th, 2019 at 1:45pm
 
Nth Qlders are going berserk with delirious joy as ADANI gets the go ahead to DIG DIG DIG and bury the smelly LUNATIC EXTREMIST GREENIES.

Just on the Lefties favorite station 2GB, that got Shorty dumped into the garbage bin.
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Reply #1 - Jun 13th, 2019 at 1:46pm
 
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jun/05/adani-jobs-explained-why-the...Well 100 of them anyway, since thats all there will be in terms of jobs.
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Reply #2 - Jun 13th, 2019 at 1:51pm
 
BH is quick to play the sad sack. Is he a closet Greeny ?

The next BIG step is a HELE clean coal power station in Nth Qld using ADANI coal to produce endless CHEAP POWER.

And what about the dams ?

And the Bradfield Scheme ?

Things is moving up in Nth Qld as the Food Bowl heads towards a reality.
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Reply #3 - Jun 13th, 2019 at 1:56pm
 
The next BIG step is a HELE clean coal power station in Nth Qld using ADANI coal to produce endless CHEAP POWER.



Endless? You do know theres an finite supply of coal right
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And what about the dams ?

And the Bradfield Scheme ?

Things is moving up in Nth Qld as the Food Bowl heads towards a reality.




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Bradfield- Bradfield's scheme and others have been criticised because they are not practical.[2] This scheme has been criticised because of the high capital and ongoing running costs which would make the project uneconomical.

Elevation measurements were taken with a barometer, leading to inaccuracies in land heights and mistakes in the proposal.[4] In most cases no flow record of the rivers were available to Bradfield. He used an empirical formula which assumed 33% of the water flow would be lost to evaporation and seepage. The estimated water available for the scheme was 114 cubic metres per second (4,000 cu ft/s).[4]

The extreme evaporation rate in the interior is another negative determinant. No clear evidence has been provided that the amount of water supplied will exceed the evaporation rate. The reduction in river discharge to the Great Barrier Reef Lagoon may diminish coastal fisheries by reducing the supply of terrestrial organic matter to the coastal and estuarine environment.

In 1947, W.H.R. Nimmo, conducted a critical review of the scheme.[4] He proved that Bradfield's estimates of the amount of water available from the easterly flowing rivers were about two and half times greater than it actually was. The error was attributed to the methodology used to calculate flow estimates was based on German rivers where the average temperature was much less than in northern Australia.[4]
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Reply #5 - Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:03pm
 
BH is furiously waving the arms about as he perches on his armchair.

Nothing is possible anymore according to BH a pessimist by nature.

It is much easier to say it won't work than to actually design and build it.

BH would have declared the Snowy System would not work all those years ago, no doubt.

And closet Greeny BH says 500 years of coal is not much.
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juliar wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:03pm:
BH is furiously waving the arms about as he perches on his armchair.

Nothing is possible anymore according to BH a pessimist by nature.

It is much easier to say it won't work than to actually design and build it.

BH would have declared the Snowy System would not work all those years ago, no doubt.

And closet Greeny BH says 500 years of coal is not much.




1. Its not 500 years. https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/index.php?page=coal_reserves

The US has it at about 300 based on current use.

2. I'm not anti or pro anything. There are many issues with the Bradfield scheme, hence why it shouldnt just be shouted out by someone with an IQ of a house plant.
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Reply #7 - Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:10pm
 
Bradford has been debunked....does not work.  Now, we will see what sort of employment explosion there is because of Adani.  I suspect people are going to be very disappointed.

Next Cab off the rank = Clive's adjacent and much larger mine.  Wonder what they'll do with that.
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Aussie wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:10pm:
Bradford has been debunked....does not work.  Now, we will see what sort of employment explosion there is because of Adani.  I suspect people are going to be very disappointed.

Next Cab off the rank = Clive's adjacent and much larger mine.  Wonder what they'll do with that.




Don't come up with reasonable objections. Juliar only deals in the irrational.
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Reply #9 - Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:16pm
 
The Lefty naysayers are in full cry as they do not want to see Australia become powerful with many new developments.

The Lefties and Lunatic Greenies are deeply shocked to see ADANI up and RUNNING at FULL STEAM AHEAD.

With a conservative 500 years of coal Australia will go full steam ahead with HELE clean coal power stations just like the rest of the world is doing.

The great North Food Bowl is beckoning and water flows into the dead center with no trouble at all. All that needs to be done is store in dams when the huge rainfall occurs like it did a short time ago in Nth Qld.
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Reply #10 - Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:17pm
 

What will juliar do next:

- attack Bojack and call him names?

- abandon the thread?

- engage in intelligent debate?
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Reply #11 - Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:18pm
 
With a conservative 500 years of coal Australia will go full steam ahead with HELE clean coal power stations just like the rest of the world is doing.



PLease produce any reference which states 500 years of coal.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:17pm:
What will juliar do next:

- attack Bojack and call him names?

- abandon the thread?

- engage in intelligent debate?



I have money on the 1st.
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Reply #13 - Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:18pm
 
juliar wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 1:45pm:
Nth Qlders are going berserk with delirious joy as ADANI gets the go ahead to DIG DIG DIG and bury the smelly LUNATIC EXTREMIST GREENIES.

Just on the Lefties favorite station 2GB, that got Shorty dumped into the garbage bin.



Wow, maybe the left should get voted out all the time.

This turnaround will have galvanised the voting habits of coal areas.
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Reply #14 - Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:20pm
 
What a pity as full size Thorium reactors
are so close to realisation.
Safe, cheap, unlimited power.
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Reply #15 - Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:21pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:18pm:
juliar wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 1:45pm:
Nth Qlders are going berserk with delirious joy as ADANI gets the go ahead to DIG DIG DIG and bury the smelly LUNATIC EXTREMIST GREENIES.

Just on the Lefties favorite station 2GB, that got Shorty dumped into the garbage bin.



Wow, maybe the left should get voted out all the time.

This turnaround will have galvanised the voting habits of coal areas.




Yep, all 100 people who will get permanent jobs out of this.
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Wow I have really got the Lefty naysayers running at full revs and blurting out the Greeny rubbish they have been so gullible to believe.

They are all perched on their armchairs waving the arms about like they are trying to fly. Flap Flap!!!

Water frequently flows into the dead center at certain times so all that is required is to store that huge amount of water in strategic dams when it falls.

The Qlders knew what they were doing when they shoved Shorty into the garbage bin.

All that fabulous commerce flooding into Nth Qld.

Wonder what they would throw at Bob Brown if he showed up there ?  A Gillard sandwich ?

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juliar wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:22pm:
Wow I have really got the Lefty naysayers running at full revs and blurting out the Greeny rubbish they have been so gullible to believe.

They are all perched on their armchairs waving the arms about like they are trying to fly. Flap Flap!!!

Water frequently flows into the dead center at certain times so all that is required is to store that huge amount of water in strategic dams when it falls.

The Qlders knew what they were doing when they shoved Shorty into the garbage bin.

All that fabulous commerce flooding into Nth Qld.

Wonder what they would throw at Bob Brown if he showed up there ?  A Gillard sandwich ?




Is it really that difficult to provide a reference?
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So Queensland's Labor party has approved Adani, bloody Labor... Angry
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Oh now the indignant shocked closet Greeny BH is trying to go off on a circular tangent as he doesn't like the way things are going.

Nth Qld is in a state of delirious enthusiastic rapture and they are just so glad they rammed evil Shorty and his Socialist sickness into the rubbish skiff.

All the flow on commerce will be wonderful for stagnant Nth Qld ignored by the imposter state Labor govt which is now shamed into approving ADANI.

Even the totally lunatic Greeny Tweedledee crawls out from under the water tank to display her gross ignorance.
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DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:27pm:
So Queensland's Labor party has approved Adani, bloody Labor... Angry



what hope did she have??? the last election told her what the QLD people want...

not the 20 or 50 protesters  who think the world stops because they say so.. Roll Eyes
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Oh now the indignant shocked closet Greeny BH is trying to go off on a circular tangent as he doesn't like the way things are going.





I simply asked for a reference about your BS 500 yr coal statement.

The problem is most people on here I can have a reasonable rational debate on these types of issues. Its the trumpites and juliar who are the exception. Look at this not one fact produced, just irrational ramblings.


I'm sick of the moderators constantly allowing this drivel.
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did Anna do a POLL before she decided...

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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In hushed tones Dave sums the endangered shamed PalaChook up



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Is Traddy trashed ?
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juliar wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:03pm:
BH is furiously waving the arms about as he perches on his armchair.


You're projecting again.
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Oh no another wong dong Greeny is having a HATE SESSION with me because she worships the ground I walk on.


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ADANI makes even the schoolboy squirm and lie profusely.


Just think when Bob Brown led those foaming at the mouth scungy curdled LUNATIC EXTREMIST GREENIES up into ADANI territory he sunk Labor with one blow as he totally pissed the Nth Qlders off with his stupid Greeny garbage.
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juliar wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:52pm:
Oh no another wong dong Greeny is having a HATE SESSION with me because she worships the ground I walk on.


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Greggy are you inebriated ?
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cods wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:33pm:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:27pm:
So Queensland's Labor party has approved Adani, bloody Labor... Angry



what hope did she have??? the last election told her what the QLD people want...

not the 20 or 50 protesters  who think the world stops because they say so.. Roll Eyes

what are you on Cods,,, Captain Bligh is the one that started the whole Adani Mine it's been a Labor project from the beginning.....Nothing as at all to do with the Lib's... thankfully Wink
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juliar wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 3:01pm:
Greggy are you inebriated ?


News flash!
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Gosh inebriated Greggy is joined by the totally nutty Greeny Tweedledee pumping out her ignorance.

Just goes to show what energy coal creates.

Wonder how many LUNATIC EXTREMIST GREENIES will commit suicide ? They certainly won't be missed.
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juliar wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 3:06pm:
Gosh inebriated Greggy is joined by the totally nutty Greeny Tweedledee pumping out her ignorance.

Just goes to show what energy coal creates.

Wonder how many LUNATIC EXTREMIST GREENIES will commit suicide ? They certainly won't be missed.


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Reply #32 - Jun 13th, 2019 at 3:17pm
 
Greggy's tired mind is going crosseyed as he cannot think what to say as he is so out of his depth.

What Greggy needs is lots of profanities!!!!!!!

Greggy are you sure you are not inebriated ?
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SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:50pm:
juliar wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:03pm:
BH is furiously waving the arms about as he perches on his armchair.


You're projecting again.


juliar wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:52pm:
Oh no another wong dong Greeny is having a HATE SESSION with me because she worships the ground I walk on.


https://i.postimg.cc/TYXdWYRY/pala4-o.jpg
ADANI makes even the schoolboy squirm and lie profusely.


Just think when Bob Brown led those foaming at the mouth scungy curdled LUNATIC EXTREMIST GREENIES up into ADANI territory he sunk Labor with one blow as he totally pissed the Nth Qlders off with his stupid Greeny garbage.


Boy Juliar, you're so predictable.  For anyone interested, click on the apostrophe in the "you're" in my original post and see my prediction that sadly came true.
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Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:20pm:
What a pity as full size Thorium reactors
are so close to realisation.
Safe, cheap, unlimited power.


Too little, too late booby. YOUR pack of vandals have got their way and we will all suffer the consequences. Can't wait to see all these jobs. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
People are so bloody stupid! Now watch Clive pressure the libs to get his mine going to pay him off for his "electoral assistance". 
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macman wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 4:49pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:20pm:
What a pity as full size Thorium reactors
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Too little, too late booby. YOUR pack of vandals have got their way and we will all suffer the consequences. Can't wait to see all these jobs. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
People are so bloody stupid! Now watch Clive pressure the libs to get his mine going to pay him off for his "electoral assistance". 


Stuffed if I know how they can approve Adani and not approve Clive.  He'll be all over that with Lawyers a'ready.
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Reply #36 - Jun 13th, 2019 at 5:27pm
 
And......over to you now Adani.  Time to stump up.  Money/mouth.  We'll see.
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Why aren't the Lefties overjoyed to see a new development kicking off in Australia ?

What a kick in the face for the LUNATIC EXTREMIST GREENIES!!!!
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juliar wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 6:27pm:
Why aren't the Lefties overjoyed to see a new development kicking off in Australia ?

What a kick in the face for the LUNATIC EXTREMIST GREENIES!!!!


Because the jobs and investment that was promised came with a price tag of Australian Tax Payers money.  Since then, Adani has been walking back what they'll deliver in return.

Now that they've got the OK we'll see what happened.

If it's only 100 jobs, is it worth it?

The cost to the taxpayers, the damage to the environment, are you that desperate for what you think is liberal tears?

Who is the extremist again?
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Reply #39 - Jun 13th, 2019 at 6:46pm
 
macman wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 4:49pm:
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Safe, cheap, unlimited power.


Too little, too late bobby. YOUR pack of vandals have got their way and we will all suffer the consequences. Can't wait to see all these jobs. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
People are so bloody stupid! Now watch Clive pressure the libs to get his mine going to pay him off for his "electoral assistance". 



India & China will be the first to have Thorium power stations.
They will put coal fire power stations out of business.
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Reply #40 - Jun 13th, 2019 at 6:57pm
 
The dreary old Greeny Kangyroo is bemoaning the FACT that the LUNATIC EXTREMIST GREENIES have done themselves in with their idiotic nation destroying UN Agenda 2030 rubbish.

They have overdone it and made themselves look silly so that the normal straight people of Australia now see them as treasonous traitors and enemies of Australia.

The LUNATIC EXTREMIST GREENIES are finished!!!    And Bob Brown drove the final nail into their coffin with his idiotic intrusion into ADANI territory which ALSO sunk Labor.
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Who approved it? the Queensland Govt are saying they didn't approve it, that someone else approved it
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https://www.theage.com.au/national/queensland/taxpayers-fork-out-31-million-to-c...

Mine comes with taxpayer-funded cleanup bill, if the past is the anything to go with.
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I'm far more concerned with the LIES that Adani (etc) will 'create jobs', when the reality is that there will be a few short-term jobs during construction etc, then a savagely limited number of jobs during production phase - around 200.  Apart from that, a few truckies will cop a run or two, a few casual temporary tradies and labourers might get a short term gig, a few shop assistants might sell a burger or two, a local pub might sell a few more beers... meantime, with the assistance of the 'Australian' "government", the ships will be crewed by two drachmae a day Lascars, the management functions will take place in Luala Kumpur or Dew Nelhi with most being online, the on-site management along with many workers will be Adani cronies etc... and the taxes falling available will disappear on the same ships as the coal - by the shipload - to Offshoreville in the Faraway Islands with a tax burden of zero.

ONLY the local workers on PAYE (The Suckers) will pay their full burden of tax.

The big brave railway line will be worn out and unused and will fall into rusty collapse once the project closes down... as will the fabulous port facilities... and the mess will be left behind to create a nightmare for future generations....
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Reply #44 - Jun 17th, 2019 at 2:45pm
 
That is my concern as well.  However, the Adani mine is just the tip, there are a number of other mines by larger companies at under application. 

Authorised Holder Name      Permit Name      Permit Number      Size km2      Status
ADANI MINING PTY LTD      CARMICHAEL      ML 70441      260      Granted
ADANI MINING PTY LTD      CARMICHAEL EAST      ML 70505      135      Granted
ADANI MINING PTY LTD      CARMICHAEL NORTH      ML 70506      16      Granted
ALPHA COAL PTY LTD      SOUTH GALILEE COAL PROJECT      ML 70453      309      Application
HANCOCK COAL PTY LTD      ALPHA      ML 70426      324      Application
HANCOCK GALILEE PTY LTD      KEVIN'S CORNER      ML 70425      374      Application
MACMINES AUSTASIA PTY LTD      PCS EAST      ML 70514      49      Application
MACMINES AUSTASIA PTY LTD      PCS SOUTH      ML 70515      47      Application
MACMINES AUSTASIA PTY LTD      PCS WEST      ML 70516      47      Application
MACMINES AUSTASIA PTY LTD      PCS CENTRAL      ML 70517      32      Application
MACMINES AUSTASIA PTY LTD      PCS NORTH      ML 70518      26      Application
WARATAH COAL PTY LTD      NORTH ALPHA MINING LEASE      ML 70489      1048      Application
WARATAH COAL PTY LTD      CHINA FIRST COAL PROJECT      ML 70454      756      Application

As you can see adani at best, is one of the moderate sized operations due to be potentially approved in the area.  If all approved, some 3423 square km will be used for mining.  The environmental impact will be perhaps twice of that, and due to the fact that coal mining is very water intense, it will draw on the existing supply of water from the river systems.  This will be in competition to the current local major economic activities dominated by agriculture, forestry and fishing.   The use of waters from existing river system, and the great artesian basin, and the risk of contamination will have the potential to effect a greater area into NT, NSW and SA. 

Just assume the best possible senario, is that all of these projections combined will bring in a total of 10000 direct jobs, into an area population of 12000.  In order to cope with this increase in demand, there will have to be increased spending on infrastrutures to support what it is a transient population.   After the life of the mine had finished usually 30 years, the economical activities of the areas will die down, and by then, there will be no going back to farmying forestry or fishing as you will have containmnated zones that is good for nothing for hundreds of years.
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Reply #45 - Jun 17th, 2019 at 3:09pm
 
juliar wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 6:57pm:
The dreary old Greeny Kangyroo is bemoaning the FACT that the LUNATIC EXTREMIST GREENIES have done themselves in with their idiotic nation destroying UN Agenda 2030 rubbish.

They have overdone it and made themselves look silly so that
the normal straight people of Australia now see them as treasonous traitors and enemies of Australia.


The LUNATIC EXTREMIST GREENIES are finished!!!    And Bob Brown drove the final nail into their coffin with his idiotic intrusion into ADANI territory which ALSO sunk Labor.


Well said..

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Reply #46 - Jun 17th, 2019 at 3:23pm
 
tickleandrose wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 2:45pm:
That is my concern as well.  However, the Adani mine is just the tip, there are a number of other mines by larger companies at under application. 

Authorised Holder Name      Permit Name      Permit Number      Size km2      Status
ADANI MINING PTY LTD      CARMICHAEL      ML 70441      260      Granted
ADANI MINING PTY LTD      CARMICHAEL EAST      ML 70505      135      Granted
ADANI MINING PTY LTD      CARMICHAEL NORTH      ML 70506      16      Granted
ALPHA COAL PTY LTD      SOUTH GALILEE COAL PROJECT      ML 70453      309      Application
HANCOCK COAL PTY LTD      ALPHA      ML 70426      324      Application
HANCOCK GALILEE PTY LTD      KEVIN'S CORNER      ML 70425      374      Application
MACMINES AUSTASIA PTY LTD      PCS EAST      ML 70514      49      Application
MACMINES AUSTASIA PTY LTD      PCS SOUTH      ML 70515      47      Application
MACMINES AUSTASIA PTY LTD      PCS WEST      ML 70516      47      Application
MACMINES AUSTASIA PTY LTD      PCS CENTRAL      ML 70517      32      Application
MACMINES AUSTASIA PTY LTD      PCS NORTH      ML 70518      26      Application
WARATAH COAL PTY LTD      NORTH ALPHA MINING LEASE      ML 70489      1048      Application
WARATAH COAL PTY LTD      CHINA FIRST COAL PROJECT      ML 70454      756      Application

As you can see adani at best, is one of the moderate sized operations due to be potentially approved in the area.  If all approved, some 3423 square km will be used for mining.  The environmental impact will be perhaps twice of that, and due to the fact that coal mining is very water intense, it will draw on the existing supply of water from the river systems.  This will be in competition to the current local major economic activities dominated by agriculture, forestry and fishing.   The use of waters from existing river system, and the great artesian basin, and the risk of contamination will have the potential to effect a greater area into NT, NSW and SA. 

Just assume the best possible senario, is that all of these projections combined will bring in a total of 10000 direct jobs, into an area population of 12000.  In order to cope with this increase in demand, there will have to be increased spending on infrastrutures to support what it is a transient population.   After the life of the mine had finished usually 30 years, the economical activities of the areas will die down, and by then, there will be no going back to farmying forestry or fishing as you will have containmnated zones that is good for nothing for hundreds of years. 


Palmer will want the favour returned for getting the LNP over the line with his bulk preference deal Wink
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Reply #47 - Jun 17th, 2019 at 4:33pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 3:23pm:
Palmer will want the favour returned for getting the LNP over the line with his bulk preference deal



that was his only reason for running
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Re: ADANI IS APPROVED!!!!
Reply #48 - Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:03pm
 
tickleandrose wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 2:45pm:
That is my concern as well.  However, the Adani mine is just the tip, there are a number of other mines by larger companies at under application. 

Authorised Holder Name      Permit Name      Permit Number      Size km2      Status
ADANI MINING PTY LTD      CARMICHAEL      ML 70441      260      Granted
ADANI MINING PTY LTD      CARMICHAEL EAST      ML 70505      135      Granted
ADANI MINING PTY LTD      CARMICHAEL NORTH      ML 70506      16      Granted
ALPHA COAL PTY LTD      SOUTH GALILEE COAL PROJECT      ML 70453      309      Application
HANCOCK COAL PTY LTD      ALPHA      ML 70426      324      Application
HANCOCK GALILEE PTY LTD      KEVIN'S CORNER      ML 70425      374      Application
MACMINES AUSTASIA PTY LTD      PCS EAST      ML 70514      49      Application
MACMINES AUSTASIA PTY LTD      PCS SOUTH      ML 70515      47      Application
MACMINES AUSTASIA PTY LTD      PCS WEST      ML 70516      47      Application
MACMINES AUSTASIA PTY LTD      PCS CENTRAL      ML 70517      32      Application
MACMINES AUSTASIA PTY LTD      PCS NORTH      ML 70518      26      Application
WARATAH COAL PTY LTD      NORTH ALPHA MINING LEASE      ML 70489      1048      Application
WARATAH COAL PTY LTD      CHINA FIRST COAL PROJECT      ML 70454      756      Application

As you can see adani at best, is one of the moderate sized operations due to be potentially approved in the area.  If all approved, some 3423 square km will be used for mining.  The environmental impact will be perhaps twice of that, and due to the fact that coal mining is very water intense, it will draw on the existing supply of water from the river systems.  This will be in competition to the current local major economic activities dominated by agriculture, forestry and fishing.   The use of waters from existing river system, and the great artesian basin, and the risk of contamination will have the potential to effect a greater area into NT, NSW and SA. 

Just assume the best possible senario, is that all of these projections combined will bring in a total of 10000 direct jobs, into an area population of 12000.  In order to cope with this increase in demand, there will have to be increased spending on infrastrutures to support what it is a transient population.   After the life of the mine had finished usually 30 years, the economical activities of the areas will die down, and by then, there will be no going back to farmying forestry or fishing as you will have containmnated zones that is good for nothing for hundreds of years. 



... and during the 'boom' time of production, prices will be sky-high, many Suckers will buy a house there in the hopes of establishing a home and family, and then at close down time find it is worth nothing and they will lose possibly millions, given the cost of a mortgage etc.  Many will walk away with nothing leaving an empty house or a furniture filled house that nobody wants, since it is too expensive to transport away the furniture etc.  Plenty of ghost towns out West from mining booms....

Oh - and many non-residents may foolishly 'invest' in 'hot property' for rental in a boom town, only to lose in the same way ...... then the poor can pick up a house for $7k again .....
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