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GNP Quietly Removes Its ‘Gone by 2020’ Signs
Jun 7th, 2019 at 12:22pm
 
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Glacier National Park Quietly Removes Its ‘Gone by 2020’ Signs


Glaciers Appear to be Growing, not Melting in Recent Years

By Roger I. Roots, J.D., Ph.D.,

Founder, Lysander Spooner University

May 30, 2019. St. Mary, Montana. Officials at Glacier National Park (GNP) have begun quietly removing and altering signs and government literature which told visitors that the Park’s glaciers were all expected to disappear by either 2020 or 2030.

In recent years the National Park Service prominently featured brochures, signs and films which boldly proclaimed that all glaciers at GNP were melting away rapidly.

But now officials at GNP seem to be scrambling to hide or replace their previous hysterical claims while avoiding any notice to the public that the claims were inaccurate.

Teams from Lysander Spooner University visiting the Park each September have noted that GNP’s most famous glaciers such as the Grinnell Glacier and the Jackson Glacier appear to have been growing—not shrinking—since about 2010.

(The Jackson Glacier—easily seen from the Going-To-The-Sun Highway—may have grown as much as 25% or more over the past decade.)


The centerpiece of the visitor center at St. Mary near the east boundary is a large three-dimensional diorama showing lights going out as the glaciers disappear. Visitors press a button to see the diorama lit up like a Christmas tree in 1850, then showing fewer and fewer lights until the diorama goes completely dark.

As recently as September 2018 the diorama displayed a sign saying GNP’s glaciers were expected to disappear completely by 2020.


Video of the diorama two years ago.

But at some point during this past winter (as the visitor center was closed to the public), workers replaced the diorama’s ‘gone by 2020’ engraving with a new sign indicating the glaciers will disappear in “future generations.”

Almost everywhere, the Park’s specific claims of impending glacier disappearance have been replaced with more nuanced messaging indicating that everyone agrees that the glaciers are melting. Some signs indicate that glacial melt is “accelerating.”

A common trick used by the National Park Service at GNP is to display old black-and-white photos of glaciers from bygone years (say, “1922”) next to photos of the same glaciers taken in more recent years showing the glaciers much diminished (say, “2006”). Anyone familiar with glaciers in the northern Rockies knows that glaciers tend to grow for nine months each winter and melt for three months each summer. Thus, such photo displays without precise calendar dates may be highly deceptive.

Last year the Park Service quietly removed its two large steel trash cans at the Many Glacier Hotel which depicted “before and after” engravings of the Grinnell Glacier in 1910 and 2009. The steel carvings indicated that the Glacier had shrunk significantly between the two dates. But a viral video published on Wattsupwiththat.com showed that the Grinnell Glacier appears to be slightly larger than in 2009.

The ‘gone by 2020’ claims were repeated in the New York Times, National Geographic, and other international news sources. But no mainstream news outlet has done any meaningful reporting regarding the apparent stabilization and recovery of the glaciers in GNP over the past decade. Even local Montana news sources such as The Missoulian, Billings Gazette and Bozeman Daily Chronicle have remained utterly silent regarding this story.

(Note that since September 2015 the author has offered to bet anyone $5,000 that GNP’s glaciers will still exist in 2030, in contradiction to the reported scientific consensus. To this day no one has taken me up on my offer. –R.R.)


https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/06/06/glacier-national-park-quietly-removes-its...



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Reply #1 - Jun 8th, 2019 at 9:14am
 
I notice that the article doesn't actually say the Glaciers are getting bigger, just repeated claims they seem to be getting bigger......
Journalism at it's best..... Cheesy
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Reply #2 - Jun 8th, 2019 at 3:13pm
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 8th, 2019 at 9:14am:
I notice that the article doesn't actually say the Glaciers are getting bigger, just repeated claims they seem to be getting bigger......


But better than seem to be getting smaller. Wink

The trouble is of course that glaciers are dynamic. They grow in winter shrink in summer.

So unless you have years of data from the same date all you can say is "they seem to be".

Photos unless timestamped are useless, and really they only came into there own with digital photographs.
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Reply #3 - Jun 8th, 2019 at 4:12pm
 
Good post Mechanic,
it shows how the fake news has been exposed as a piece of concocted drivel.
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Reply #4 - Jun 8th, 2019 at 4:42pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 8th, 2019 at 4:12pm:
Good post Mechanic,
it shows how the fake news has been exposed as a piece of concocted drivel.

yes bobby that is a terrible example of Fake news if I ever saw one  Cheesy
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Reply #5 - Jun 8th, 2019 at 4:52pm
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 8th, 2019 at 4:42pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 8th, 2019 at 4:12pm:
Good post Mechanic,
it shows how the fake news has been exposed as a piece of concocted drivel.

yes bobby that is a terrible example of Fake news if I ever saw one  Cheesy



Fake predictions of glacier gone by 2020.
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Reply #6 - Jun 9th, 2019 at 11:21am
 
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These photographs show two late-summer views of Grinnell Glacier in Glacier National Park
Top image 1940s
Bottom image 2006
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Reply #7 - Jun 9th, 2019 at 11:26am
 
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Also from Glacier National Park
In particular take notice of how the size of the lake has expanded as the ice has retreated
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Reply #8 - Jun 9th, 2019 at 12:12pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Jun 9th, 2019 at 11:21am:
These photographs show two late-summer views of Grinnell Glacier in Glacier National Park
Top image 1940s
Bottom image 2006



Notice there is no timestamp denoting time of year. Wink
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Reply #9 - Jun 9th, 2019 at 12:48pm
 
lee wrote on Jun 9th, 2019 at 12:12pm:
The_Barnacle wrote on Jun 9th, 2019 at 11:21am:
These photographs show two late-summer views of Grinnell Glacier in Glacier National Park
Top image 1940s
Bottom image 2006



Notice there is no timestamp denoting time of year. Wink


How predictable. lee posting a lame irrelevant comeback.

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Reply #10 - Jun 9th, 2019 at 1:18pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Jun 9th, 2019 at 12:48pm:
How predictable. lee posting a lame irrelevant comeback.



Poor petal. Can't even admit the obvious.

Timing of when something dynamic happens is everything.
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Reply #11 - Jun 9th, 2019 at 2:34pm
 
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Reply #12 - Jun 10th, 2019 at 7:57am
 
So their predictions where wrong on the timing , the article doesn't state if the Glacier is in fact overall shrinking (Lee don't let us down). If year over year it's growing they are wrong, if it's shrinking they where right just their timing stinks  Wink
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Reply #13 - Jun 20th, 2019 at 8:16pm
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 10th, 2019 at 7:57am:
So their predictions where wrong on the timing , the article doesn't state if the Glacier is in fact overall shrinking (Lee don't let us down). If year over year it's growing they are wrong, if it's shrinking they where right just their timing stinks  Wink


Um, Yeah.

That timing thing.
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Reply #14 - Jun 23rd, 2019 at 7:03am
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Jun 9th, 2019 at 11:26am:
http://i66.tinypic.com/r8t24m.jpg

Also from Glacier National Park
In particular take notice of how the size of the lake has expanded as the ice has retreated



Wow. Photos showing glacier size is not static. Proof finally of..........nothing.

Surely out of the billions of dollars blown on this fraud you'd reckon someone might have taken another photo since 2009???

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