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Jun 7th, 2019 at 12:18pm
 
With dumb and dumber in charge don't expect to see a growth in EV usage here. Even our fuel standards are way behind the rest of the developed nations Sad

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VOLKSWAGEN ID.3 ELECTRIC HATCH: AUSTRALIA HIT WITH DELAYS AS EUROPE ORDERS OPEN

One of the most important electric cars to arrive next decade is likely to be pushed back due to Australia's lagging emissions standards.

Order books have opened and key details have been released for the new Volkswagen ID.3 electric car in Europe – but its introduction in Australia has been pushed back until 2022 at the earliest, due to lagging local emissions standards.

Volkswagen has released disguised photos of the ID.3 – one of the most important electric cars to arrive next decade – ahead of its official unveiling at this year's Frankfurt motor show in September.

European customers are due to take delivery in mid-2020 but the electric "people's car" won't arrive in local showrooms until at least two years later, more than a year later than originally planned, after a lack of incentives to introduce electric cars locally drove Volkswagen head office to push Australia down the priority list.

Volkswagen Australia managing director, Michael Bartsch, says Australia is "in danger of losing its place in the queue for EVs because this country's automotive regulations have fallen behind the first-world norm".


Electric vehicles have been thrust into the spotlight in the lead-up to the 2019 federal election, after Labor announced its plan to make 50% of all new car sales electric by 2030.

Amid the debate, the federal government announced better fuel quality and emissions standards would not come into force locally until 2027.

"Australia also remains mired in Euro 5 and the outmoded (European) testing cycle while much of the world has moved onto Euro 6 and WLTP testing," Mr Bartsch said today in a media statement.

Car companies claim they cannot deliver their latest engine technology on Australia's high sulphur unleaded petrol.

The petrol companies claim that upgrading Australia's four remaining refineries would cripple the industry and wipe out thousands of jobs.


Australia's regular unleaded petrol is allowed to have a maximum sulphur content of 150 parts per million. Premium unleaded has a 50 ppm limit. Current world's best practice is 10ppm.

"Such backwards markets may not be prioritised for new technology of all types - including (electric cars)," said Mr Bartsch.

“Even though Australian diesel has conformed to the European standard since 2009, groups such as the Australian Institute of Petroleum and the Australian Automobile Association have opposed the introduction of first world petrol to this country for another eight years, even though much of our petrol is already imported," he said.

Volkswagen Australia has previously claimed our country could become a "dumping ground" for old engine technology, unless emissions standards and fuel quality are aligned with Europe.

Volkswagen Australia has also leant on its sales network in the lead up to the Federal Election, arming dealer principals with a sternly-worded letter to hand their local member of parliament emphasising the benefits of emissions reform.

In the meantime, Volkswagen has released key details on the new Golf-sized electric car in Germany.

CarAdvice's Europe correspondent Greg Kable reports Volkswagen has confirmed it will offer up to three different battery capacities with ranges of 330km, 420km and 550km on the latest and more stringent WLTP economy test cycle.

Holding true to Volkswagen’s earlier claims that the ID.3 would be priced at similar points to mid-level versions of the seventh-generation Golf, the first in an extended range of dedicated models to be launched by the German car maker under its new ID. electric car brand costs €30,000 (AU$47,896) in entry-level 330km-range guise in Germany.

This compares to the €27,285 (AU$43,557) price tag of the Golf 1.5TSI ACT BlueMotion in Comfortline trim in Germany.

Volkswagen Australia says it is too early to provide a cost estimate locally but aims to not price the vehicle out of reach when it eventually arrives in local showrooms in 2022.


https://www.caradvice.com.au/754498/federal-election-ev-volkswagen/
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Re: VW ID.3 ELECTRIC HATCH: AUSTRALIA HIT WITH DELAYS
Reply #1 - Jun 7th, 2019 at 3:18pm
 
The Australian Government spent years propping up the local (American and Japanese controlled) car industry and they ended up shutting production anyway. Why should we send subsidies to foreign car companies that already receive subsidies from their governments, even if they are EVs?

Why should we offer subsidies to purchase current EVs when we are ultimately better off to let EV technology mature so that more people end up buying longer range EVs? If it's locally produced and owned EV companies that we are talking then I would be more inclined to offer subsidies.
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Reply #2 - Jun 7th, 2019 at 4:49pm
 
VW don't care about it customers and was happy to poison them and got caught out, id never buy anything from the VW group. Wink
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Reply #3 - Jun 7th, 2019 at 5:01pm
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 7th, 2019 at 4:49pm:
VW don't care about it customers and was happy to poison them and got caught out, id never buy anything from the VW group.


And yet they obeyed the instructions on testing "as writ". Perhaps someone should have verified that the testing would achieve its stated aim.
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Reply #4 - Jun 7th, 2019 at 5:34pm
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 7th, 2019 at 4:49pm:
VW don't care about it customers and was happy to poison them and got caught out, id never buy anything from the VW group. Wink


Never is a long time.

I dislike german stuff, it is overrated.

Even before that, I was not inclined toward any german junk
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Reply #5 - Jun 8th, 2019 at 10:59am
 
minarchist wrote on Jun 7th, 2019 at 3:18pm:
The Australian Government spent years propping up the local (American and Japanese controlled) car industry and they ended up shutting production anyway. Why should we send subsidies to foreign car companies that already receive subsidies from their governments, even if they are EVs?

Why should we offer subsidies to purchase current EVs when we are ultimately better off to let EV technology mature so that more people end up buying longer range EVs? If it's locally produced and owned EV companies that we are talking then I would be more inclined to offer subsidies.


This maybe true but when you treat a local EV maker with contempt like Albasleezy did back in 2010 then we have no other choice than to import EV's just like we import everything else here now Sad

https://www.smh.com.au/national/electric-car-maker-angry-over-import-deal-201007...

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AUSTRALIA'S leading electric car manufacturer has blasted the federal government for choosing an imported model to be Australia's first electric trial fleet.

In June, the federal Minister for Transport and Infrastructure, Anthony Albanese, announced that the government would be buying 40 imported Mitsubishi i-Miev electric vehicles as a way of encouraging the uptake of electric vehicles.


But Castlemaine-based Blade Electric Vehicles said the decision was inexplicable given that its car, the Blade Electron, was better, cheaper, and had been developed with federal government funding.

''We cannot understand why Mr Albanese has chosen to exclude the Electron,'' said Ross Blade, director of BEV.

''The federal government has spent over $100,000 of taxpayers' money on the development of the Blade Electron through the COMET (Commercialising Emerging Technologies) program. Despite the Electron meeting Australia's design standards, the federal government has chosen instead to lease a foreign product at nearly double the cost.''

Mr Blade said that Mitsubishi was leasing the i-Miev for $1740 a month for a total cost over three years of $62,640. This compared with $900 a month for the Electron, for a total cost over three years of $48,000.

Mr Blade said the Electron was a bigger car with superior performance to the i-Miev and, more importantly, could be plugged into a regular power point for recharging.

However, a spokesman for Mr Albanese, Geoff Sinclair, said the government did not choose the Blade Electron because it was not a mass-produced car and did not meet two Australian design standards, although he could not say which ones.

Mr Blade said that if the Australian government was not going to buy a locally made electric car, it stood little chance of being mass produced.

''In terms of our vehicle being mass produced, the fact of the matter is that if the Australian government is not going to buy them, then how can they be mass produced?

''It's a chicken and egg thing.''

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Reply #6 - Jun 8th, 2019 at 1:47pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 8th, 2019 at 10:59am:
This maybe true but when you treat a local EV maker with contempt like Albasleezy did back in 2010 then we have no other choice than to import EV's just like we import everything else here now



And yet he is from that supposed "enlightened" party. Roll Eyes

Now also Leader of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition.
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