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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	17 year old legally euthanised Jun 5^th, 2019 at 12:36pm 17 year old legally euthanised https://www.perthnow.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/noa-pothoven-of-arnhem-in-the-ne...
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Captain Caveman Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6204 Gender:	Re: 17 year old legally euthanised Reply #1 - Jun 5^th, 2019 at 3:17pm Wow. I say this all the time. People and law only care about the perp. The victim...well. Perp gets 2 years, the victim gets life.
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Reply #2 - Jun 5^th, 2019 at 3:26pm

This is indeed horrible. Whilst I do agree with euthanasia for terminal illness, extreme pain, and extreme of age, I am not sure about it for mental health.

I believe, that it is even more riskier to be open to abuse and foul play. People with mental health illness, can be easily manipulated, and their judgement is poor. So in Australia, she probably cant even consent to treatment, and would need a POA.

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 80202 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: 17 year old legally euthanised Reply #3 - Jun 5^th, 2019 at 9:16pm FFS...... where will this insanity end? 17 and can't even drink.... JESUS CHRIST!!
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72209 Gender:	Re: 17 year old legally euthanised Reply #4 - Jun 5^th, 2019 at 9:19pm it's why they should never legalise euthanasia
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Reply #5 - Jun 5^th, 2019 at 10:52pm

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..........Noa Pothoven, 17, has been legally euthanised in the Netherlands, saying the pain she was dealing with after a childhood rape was “insufferable”.

Noa, from Arnhem, said in a social media post a day before her death last Sunday that she “breaths but no longer lives”...........

it was her life, her choice, her decision

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Reply #6 - Jun 5^th, 2019 at 11:03pm

Marla

just pm'd me to say
"What's the girl's big hang-up? I was partying from my first period!"

Jokes aside. The girl felt precious. Her father probably consented to have some bills paid for his illegal activities.

So Western Medicine is consenting to help 'push' the Suicide off the bridge if it can't prevent them from doing it. Western Medicine hides away in it's Hospitals, when the real work is to be done 'out there' among the people.

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: 17 year old legally euthanised Reply #7 - Jun 5^th, 2019 at 11:10pm I couldnt live with myself if I gave the ok to this.. at 17... the people creating this are the insane ones...
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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Australian Legend Posts: 21726 Rockhampton, Q Gender:	Re: 17 year old legally euthanised Reply #8 - Jun 5^th, 2019 at 11:11pm She got raped at 14. Commits suicide at 17.
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 46482 Gender:	Re: 17 year old legally euthanised Reply #9 - Jun 5^th, 2019 at 11:14pm All she needed was a good Lawyer to show her how to entrap men and financially assault them for millions $$$ The Rapists 'won' - thanks to the Medical Industry's 'helping hand' off the bridge.
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Re: 17 year old legally euthanised
Reply #10 - Jun 5^th, 2019 at 11:44pm

Jasin wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 11:03pm:

Marla

just pm'd me to say
"What's the girl's big hang-up? I was partying from my first period!"

Jokes aside. The girl felt precious. Her father probably consented to have some bills paid for his illegal activities.

So Western Medicine is consenting to help 'push' the Suicide off the bridge if it can't prevent them from doing it. Western Medicine hides away in it's Hospitals, when the real work is to be done 'out there' among the people.

Darwin Effect?

Western 'medicine' has descended to the lowest in the world... under a social science sky ...

If it feels good - kill yourself with our assistance... FFS!!!!!!

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Reply #11 - Jun 5^th, 2019 at 11:46pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 10:52pm:

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..........Noa Pothoven, 17, has been legally euthanised in the Netherlands, saying the pain she was dealing with after a childhood rape was “insufferable”.

Noa, from Arnhem, said in a social media post a day before her death last Sunday that she “breaths but no longer lives”...........

it was her life, her choice, her decision

That's nice - is she now watching over us and seeing our reactions to her plight and making a difference?

FFS!!!!

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Re: 17 year old legally euthanised
Reply #12 - Jun 5^th, 2019 at 11:51pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 9:19pm:

it's why they should never legalise euthanasia

In your correct metier, 'smith', you are a worthy citizen of the world.. apart from that - my shorts are about ready for you to eat... you are a prick, first class, Mk I ... now GROW UP!

Get on the side of the angels - or leave!!

I'll be there on 13th June with your jar of olives ... until then - get a grip, man!!

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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Australian Legend Posts: 21726 Rockhampton, Q Gender:	Re: 17 year old legally euthanised Reply #13 - Jun 6^th, 2019 at 2:07am Seems like a real waste of potential constructive life. Surely, she would get over even the most traumatic of experiences over time.
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Reply #14 - Jun 6^th, 2019 at 3:12am

17 is still a 'kid', as is 19 years of age although retail likes to make them think they are young 'adults', like the legal age for sex in the USA.

I think Western Medicine has just 'murdered' that kid, nothing more than just trying to smother over with a pillow softly with the excuse 'legal euthanisation'.

It's obvious that the arrogant Medical system said "If we can't save her, no-one can - so might as well give her a push out of this world's door."

She could have been supported in finding her sanctuary, recovery and salvation via becoming an important undercover agent for the CIA and help shoot Terrorists with her as the 'bait'.

Jokes aside. The answer for Happiness from such darkness in the past, isn't always in Religion or Medicine. All that she needed was to be 'distracted' from her sad thoughts by a Butterfly. Did anyone take her for some surfing lessons? People like her don't just need medication and counselling from the Med Industry. They also need a 'new life' to escape into and begin again. Not locked up in a little room in a Hospital or in a centre where other such people are there - doing time as well.
She never got to experience Zero Gravity.
Well i hope she is now. Sad

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