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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20230 Gordon Gender:	Hybrid cars May 18^th, 2019 at 6:30pm Phwoar, the new RAV looks nice. Anyone here own a hybrid?
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 46559 Gender:	Re: Hybrid cars Reply #1 - May 18^th, 2019 at 9:49pm I drive a hybrid Camry for Taxi. Love it! Drove right behind an Asian Tourist walking in the middle of the road, oblivious until I beeped the horn. She jumped. The two Koori ladies in the Taxi yelled at her - "Go back to your own country!"
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Reply #2 - May 18^th, 2019 at 9:57pm

Jasin wrote on May 18^th, 2019 at 9:49pm:

I drive a hybrid Camry for Taxi.
Love it!

Drove right behind an Asian Tourist walking in the middle of the road, oblivious until I beeped the horn.
She jumped.
The two Koori ladies in the Taxi yelled at her - "Go back to your own country!" Grin

Did Aboriginal science build a hybrid 50k years ago? Would be good for sneaking up on goannas

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DonDeeHippy Gold Member Offline Cool Stuff Posts: 2782 Australia Gender:	Re: Hybrid cars Reply #3 - May 20^th, 2019 at 7:32am The Mitsubishi Highlander PHEV has been in Australia for the last few years, I need a Ute so I cant get one but Mitsubishi have said they are making a Hybrid Triton and id be in line for that.
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Reply #4 - May 26^th, 2019 at 3:01pm

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 20^th, 2019 at 7:32am:

The Mitsubishi Highlander PHEV has been in Australia for the last few years, I need a Ute so I cant get one but Mitsubishi have said they are making a Hybrid Triton and id be in line for that. Wink

I'm not a Bitsumishi fan, but that PHEV Outlander is interesting. I wish the RAV was a plug-in with long electric range rather than just a hybrid.

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Reply #5 - May 27^th, 2019 at 1:14pm

I read somewhere that they do make hybrids that can ALSO be charged which is the best of both worlds.

Have read that some people use Prius batteries as a storage battery for their solar panels.

A problem with hybrids which have a little petrol engine to charge the battery is when on a long run on the highway the battery goes flat and the tiny petrol motor can barely handle highway speeds of 110km/h.

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Reply #6 - May 27^th, 2019 at 4:02pm

juliar wrote on May 27^th, 2019 at 1:14pm:

I read somewhere that they do make hybrids that can ALSO be charged which is the best of both worlds.

Have read that some people use Prius batteries as a storage battery for their solar panels.

A problem with hybrids which have a little petrol engine to charge the battery is when on a long run on the highway the battery goes flat and the tiny petrol motor can barely handle highway speeds of 110km/h.

The Outlander has 2LT engine, same at the standard Outlander.

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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20230 Gordon Gender:	Re: Hybrid cars Reply #7 - May 31^st, 2019 at 6:39pm I've had a hybrid car for a week. LOVE IT
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 131546 Gender:	Re: Hybrid cars Reply #8 - May 31^st, 2019 at 7:55pm juliar wrote on May 27^th, 2019 at 1:14pm: I read somewhere ... Lol I don't think so, Tim.
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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Take the plan, spin it sideways Posts: 7057 Gender:	Re: Hybrid cars Reply #9 - May 31^st, 2019 at 9:09pm I've driven them for work. They do the job. I read an article the other day about all motorcycles becoming electric in the next 20 years or so. While I'm all for electric cars, I'm not looking forward to that at all.
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Reply #10 - Jun 1^st, 2019 at 6:40am

Annie Anthrax wrote on May 31^st, 2019 at 9:09pm:

I've driven them for work. They do the job.

I read an article the other day about all motorcycles becoming electric in the next 20 years or so. While I'm all for electric cars, I'm not looking forward to that at all.

A nice country road on a nice sunny day on a motorbike making no noise, id imagine it being very peaceful and relaxing.... Wink

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Reply #11 - Jun 1^st, 2019 at 6:58am

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 1^st, 2019 at 6:40am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on May 31^st, 2019 at 9:09pm:

I've driven them for work. They do the job.

I read an article the other day about all motorcycles becoming electric in the next 20 years or so. While I'm all for electric cars, I'm not looking forward to that at all.

A nice country road on a nice sunny day on a motorbike making no noise, id imagine it being very peaceful and relaxing.... Wink

Perhaps. Until someone pulls out in front of you because they cant hear you there. Car drivers can be careless and sound is good protection.

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Reply #12 - Jun 1^st, 2019 at 7:12am

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jun 1^st, 2019 at 6:58am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 1^st, 2019 at 6:40am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on May 31^st, 2019 at 9:09pm:

I've driven them for work. They do the job.

I read an article the other day about all motorcycles becoming electric in the next 20 years or so. While I'm all for electric cars, I'm not looking forward to that at all.

A nice country road on a nice sunny day on a motorbike making no noise, id imagine it being very peaceful and relaxing.... Wink

Perhaps. Until someone pulls out in front of you because they cant hear you there. Car drivers can be careless and sound is good protection.

HAHA that's just a justification from Harley owners to rip out their baffles...... Wink

I notice those owners with high speed motorbikes don't rip out the baffles, probably because they don't want to loose power...… Safety is forgotten then.... Posties are probably on the road the most and they don't demand loud exhausts.... Wink

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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Take the plan, spin it sideways Posts: 7057 Gender:	Re: Hybrid cars Reply #13 - Jun 1^st, 2019 at 1:13pm I dont ride a Harley. Cruisers are ugly. And I can certainly hear my postman much louder than an electric bike.
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Reply #15 - Jun 1^st, 2019 at 3:38pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jun 1^st, 2019 at 6:58am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 1^st, 2019 at 6:40am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on May 31^st, 2019 at 9:09pm:

I've driven them for work. They do the job.

I read an article the other day about all motorcycles becoming electric in the next 20 years or so. While I'm all for electric cars, I'm not looking forward to that at all.

A nice country road on a nice sunny day on a motorbike making no noise, id imagine it being very peaceful and relaxing.... Wink

Perhaps. Until someone pulls out in front of you because they cant hear you there. Car drivers can be careless and sound is good protection.

Car drivers dont depend on noise to detect other vehicles, the real issue is motorbike riders speeding and weaving through traffic. Making motorbikes loud is just the "look at me " mentality, nothing to do with safety.

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Reply #16 - Jun 1^st, 2019 at 6:45pm

rhino wrote on Jun 1^st, 2019 at 3:38pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jun 1^st, 2019 at 6:58am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 1^st, 2019 at 6:40am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on May 31^st, 2019 at 9:09pm:

I've driven them for work. They do the job.

I read an article the other day about all motorcycles becoming electric in the next 20 years or so. While I'm all for electric cars, I'm not looking forward to that at all.

A nice country road on a nice sunny day on a motorbike making no noise, id imagine it being very peaceful and relaxing.... Wink

Perhaps. Until someone pulls out in front of you because they cant hear you there. Car drivers can be careless and sound is good protection.

Car drivers dont depend on noise to detect other vehicles, the real issue is motorbike riders speeding and weaving through traffic. Making motorbikes loud is just the "look at me " mentality, nothing to do with safety.

I wasn't talking about making them louder. I was talking about the danger of making them silent.

Lane splitting or filtering is legal in my state. The problem is distracted drivers. They're a menace to everyone on the road, including motorcyclists.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72257 Gender:	Re: Hybrid cars Reply #17 - Jun 1^st, 2019 at 6:52pm Annie Anthrax wrote on Jun 1^st, 2019 at 6:45pm: Lane splitting or filtering is legal in my state. i wish it bloody wasn't.
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Reply #19 - Jun 1^st, 2019 at 6:56pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jun 1^st, 2019 at 6:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 1^st, 2019 at 6:52pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jun 1^st, 2019 at 6:45pm:

Lane splitting or filtering is legal in my state.

i wish it bloody wasn't.

Why?

to many idiots (especially those tourists on scooters) who think the bike is 50mm wide and the gap is 500mm wide when it's the reverse.

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Reply #20 - Jun 1^st, 2019 at 7:07pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 1^st, 2019 at 6:56pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jun 1^st, 2019 at 6:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 1^st, 2019 at 6:52pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jun 1^st, 2019 at 6:45pm:

Lane splitting or filtering is legal in my state.

i wish it bloody wasn't.

Why?

to many idiots (especially those tourists on scooters) who think the bike is 50mm wide and the gap is 500mm wide when it's the reverse.

Possibly. I'd never ride a scooter, let alone lane split on one.

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Reply #21 - Jun 1^st, 2019 at 7:15pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on May 31^st, 2019 at 9:09pm:

I've driven them for work. They do the job.

I read an article the other day about all motorcycles becoming electric in the next 20 years or so. While I'm all for electric cars, I'm not looking forward to that at all.

What year model? I was in a current model hybrid and it's a revelation and will be my next car.

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Reply #22 - Jun 1^st, 2019 at 7:19pm

rhino wrote on Jun 1^st, 2019 at 3:38pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jun 1^st, 2019 at 6:58am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 1^st, 2019 at 6:40am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on May 31^st, 2019 at 9:09pm:

I've driven them for work. They do the job.

I read an article the other day about all motorcycles becoming electric in the next 20 years or so. While I'm all for electric cars, I'm not looking forward to that at all.

A nice country road on a nice sunny day on a motorbike making no noise, id imagine it being very peaceful and relaxing.... Wink

Perhaps. Until someone pulls out in front of you because they cant hear you there. Car drivers can be careless and sound is good protection.

Car drivers dont depend on noise to detect other vehicles, the real issue is motorbike riders speeding and weaving through traffic. Making motorbikes loud is just the "look at me " mentality, nothing to do with safety.

Having a loud bike helps a little bit on multi-laned roads and can help to stop cars changing lanes on you, but compared to defensive riding it's nothing.

I had a Ducati with a loud set of Staintunes and if I saw a car looking like they were about to do a silly lane change, I'd give the throttle a blip and they'd have a better look around, but that was more about defensive riding and anticipation than just the noise.

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Reply #23 - Jun 2^nd, 2019 at 9:58pm

Gordon wrote on Jun 1^st, 2019 at 7:15pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on May 31^st, 2019 at 9:09pm:

I've driven them for work. They do the job.

I read an article the other day about all motorcycles becoming electric in the next 20 years or so. While I'm all for electric cars, I'm not looking forward to that at all.

What year model? I was in a current model hybrid and it's a revelation and will be my next car.

Not sure. Either 2017 or 2018. Fleet vehicle. It was okay, like I said. The only car I've ever found fun to drive is my husband's Peugeot and that's probably because it's an old school manual. In comparison, the hybrid was gutless and bland but it would be a decent commuter.

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Reply #24 - Jun 2^nd, 2019 at 10:01pm

Gordon wrote on Jun 1^st, 2019 at 7:19pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 1^st, 2019 at 3:38pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jun 1^st, 2019 at 6:58am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 1^st, 2019 at 6:40am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on May 31^st, 2019 at 9:09pm:

I've driven them for work. They do the job.

I read an article the other day about all motorcycles becoming electric in the next 20 years or so. While I'm all for electric cars, I'm not looking forward to that at all.

A nice country road on a nice sunny day on a motorbike making no noise, id imagine it being very peaceful and relaxing.... Wink

Perhaps. Until someone pulls out in front of you because they cant hear you there. Car drivers can be careless and sound is good protection.

Car drivers dont depend on noise to detect other vehicles, the real issue is motorbike riders speeding and weaving through traffic. Making motorbikes loud is just the "look at me " mentality, nothing to do with safety.

Having a loud bike helps a little bit on multi-laned roads and can help to stop cars changing lanes on you, but compared to defensive riding it's nothing.

I had a Ducati with a loud set of Staintunes and if I saw a car looking like they were about to do a silly lane change, I'd give the throttle a blip and they'd have a better look around, but that was more about defensive riding and anticipation than just the noise.

Exactly. It's not the only weapon against a distracted driver or the most effective but it helps.

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Reply #25 - Jun 3^rd, 2019 at 8:20am

https://insideevs.com/news/352375/sf90-stradale-first-ferrari-plugin-hybrid/

Ferrari SF90 Stradale specs:

0-100 km/h (62 mph) in 2.5 seconds
0-200 km/h (124 mph) in 6.7 seconds
Maximum speed 340 km/h (211 mph)
7.9 kWh battery
all-electric range of up to 25 km (15.5 miles)
system output 735 kW (1000 cv) - 574 kW (780 cv) ICE and (162 kW)three electric motors
powertrain: 4L V8 ICE, 8-speed, F1 dual-clutch transmission an electric motor in the rear and two electric motors in the front
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Reply #26 - Jun 3^rd, 2019 at 11:20am

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2019 at 9:58pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 1^st, 2019 at 7:15pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on May 31^st, 2019 at 9:09pm:

I've driven them for work. They do the job.

I read an article the other day about all motorcycles becoming electric in the next 20 years or so. While I'm all for electric cars, I'm not looking forward to that at all.

What year model? I was in a current model hybrid and it's a revelation and will be my next car.

Not sure. Either 2017 or 2018. Fleet vehicle. It was okay, like I said. The only car I've ever found fun to drive is my husband's Peugeot and that's probably because it's an old school manual. In comparison, the hybrid was gutless and bland but it would be a decent commuter.

Last week I had a Lexus NX300h and it was wonderful. Effortless off the mark acceleration then the petrol kicks in seamlessly. I just picked up a Corolla hybrid for the week. I don't like the driving position or size, but it drives beautifully. Not as good as the Lexus but I could live with it!

I'll take a Rav Hybrid for a test drive soon.

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Reply #29 - Jun 3^rd, 2019 at 5:20pm

Riding a loud motorbike is a guaranteed way to lose your hearing.

The interior light in a Camry is so weak it is a wonder that it doesn't fall over.

And the hand (foot) brake is messy to use.

And to change one of the fuses you have to remove the glovebox and lie on the floor and reach up with a torch in your mouth.

And if you get out and forget to take the key anyone can jump in and press start and drive away.

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Reply #34 - Jun 4^th, 2019 at 8:34am

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Three of us caught a taxi the other day and it didn't even make it half way up the Adelaide hills before it conked out, it was a Hybrid, the batteries had run out and the engine couldn't push all or weight, they called us a Falcon to get us out of trouble.

That sounds like a trouble with the car breaking down, not that the hybrid system couldn't hack going up a hill, most hybrid taxi's are Toyota's and the main power is from the petrol motor...

The Camry hybrid have a 2.5 litre 4 cylinder motor or a V6 motor either of those have plenty of power to go up a mountain range.. Wink

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Reply #36 - Jun 4^th, 2019 at 2:03pm

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 4^th, 2019 at 8:34am:

Johnnie wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2019 at 6:42pm:

Three of us caught a taxi the other day and it didn't even make it half way up the Adelaide hills before it conked out, it was a Hybrid, the batteries had run out and the engine couldn't push all or weight, they called us a Falcon to get us out of trouble.

That sounds like a trouble with the car breaking down, not that the hybrid system couldn't hack going up a hill, most hybrid taxi's are Toyota's and the main power is from the petrol motor...

The Camry hybrid have a 2.5 litre 4 cylinder motor or a V6 motor either of those have plenty of power to go up a mountain range.. Wink

I drove a hybrid RAV4 today with the 2.5. Farqmesideways, it drives as nice as the Lexus I had last week.

I was tempted to put a deposit on it there and then.

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Reply #37 - Jun 4^th, 2019 at 2:25pm

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DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 4^th, 2019 at 8:34am:

Johnnie wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2019 at 6:42pm:

Three of us caught a taxi the other day and it didn't even make it half way up the Adelaide hills before it conked out, it was a Hybrid, the batteries had run out and the engine couldn't push all or weight, they called us a Falcon to get us out of trouble.

That sounds like a trouble with the car breaking down, not that the hybrid system couldn't hack going up a hill, most hybrid taxi's are Toyota's and the main power is from the petrol motor...

The Camry hybrid have a 2.5 litre 4 cylinder motor or a V6 motor either of those have plenty of power to go up a mountain range.. Wink

I drove a hybrid RAV4 today with the 2.5. Farqmesideways, it drives as nice as the Lexus I had last week.

I was tempted to put a deposit on it there and then.

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Reply #38 - Jun 4^th, 2019 at 3:28pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 4^th, 2019 at 2:25pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 4^th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 4^th, 2019 at 8:34am:

Johnnie wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2019 at 6:42pm:

Three of us caught a taxi the other day and it didn't even make it half way up the Adelaide hills before it conked out, it was a Hybrid, the batteries had run out and the engine couldn't push all or weight, they called us a Falcon to get us out of trouble.

That sounds like a trouble with the car breaking down, not that the hybrid system couldn't hack going up a hill, most hybrid taxi's are Toyota's and the main power is from the petrol motor...

The Camry hybrid have a 2.5 litre 4 cylinder motor or a V6 motor either of those have plenty of power to go up a mountain range.. Wink

I drove a hybrid RAV4 today with the 2.5. Farqmesideways, it drives as nice as the Lexus I had last week.

I was tempted to put a deposit on it there and then.

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Reply #39 - Jun 4^th, 2019 at 3:52pm

Gordon wrote on Jun 4^th, 2019 at 3:28pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 4^th, 2019 at 2:25pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 4^th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 4^th, 2019 at 8:34am:

Johnnie wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2019 at 6:42pm:

Three of us caught a taxi the other day and it didn't even make it half way up the Adelaide hills before it conked out, it was a Hybrid, the batteries had run out and the engine couldn't push all or weight, they called us a Falcon to get us out of trouble.

That sounds like a trouble with the car breaking down, not that the hybrid system couldn't hack going up a hill, most hybrid taxi's are Toyota's and the main power is from the petrol motor...

The Camry hybrid have a 2.5 litre 4 cylinder motor or a V6 motor either of those have plenty of power to go up a mountain range.. Wink

I drove a hybrid RAV4 today with the 2.5. Farqmesideways, it drives as nice as the Lexus I had last week.

I was tempted to put a deposit on it there and then.

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Reply #40 - Jun 4^th, 2019 at 7:52pm

Actually hybrids go well while the battery is OK but start to sputter when the battery is on its last legs.

Out on a long trip on the freeway is judgement day for a hybrid as after the battery goes flat all that is left is the little petrol engine which has then to lug the flat heavy battery as well as the passengers.

Rumor is that the Prius conks out like this on the highway.

Round town hybrids are good as there is lots of slowing and braking to recharge the battery.

With an all electric heap all that is left when the battery goes flat is a very expensive tow.

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Reply #42 - Jun 5^th, 2019 at 9:34am

juliar wrote on Jun 4^th, 2019 at 7:52pm:

Actually hybrids go well while the battery is OK but start to sputter when the battery is on its last legs.

Out on a long trip on the freeway is judgement day for a hybrid as after the battery goes flat all that is left is the little petrol engine which has then to lug the flat heavy battery as well as the passengers.

Rumor is that the Prius conks out like this on the highway.

Round town hybrids are good as there is lots of slowing and braking to recharge the battery.

With an all electric heap all that is left when the battery goes flat is a very expensive tow.

Thats not how they work on the open road though. Hybrids essentially aid in the acceleration phase where you use the most petrol, out on the freeway, you don't use as much fuel so the hybrid doesn't need to work.

Plus overall the prius is only about 100 kilos heavier than the Corolla.

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Reply #43 - Jun 5^th, 2019 at 11:55am

BH has invented a new mode of hybrid magic.

The simple fact is that on the highway where there is no slowing or braking the battery does not get recharged and steadily goes FLAT.

Then the little motor has to move the car PLUS the weight of the heavy flat battery PLUS the passengers PLUS try to recharge the flat battery.

That's why the little Prius is a slag on the highway.

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Reply #44 - Jun 5^th, 2019 at 12:12pm

juliar wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 11:55am:

BH has invented a new mode of hybrid magic.

The simple fact is that on the highway where there is no slowing or braking the battery does not get recharged and steadily goes FLAT.

Then the little motor has to move the car PLUS the weight of the heavy flat battery PLUS the passengers PLUS try to recharge the flat battery.

That's why the little Prius is a slag on the highway.

But its not needed on the freeway since you don't use all your power on the freeway.

The Prius Prime has an EPA-rated combined fuel economy in hybrid mode of 54 mpg‑US (4.4 L/100 km; 65 mpg‑imp), 55 mpg‑US (4.3 L/100 km; 66 mpg‑imp) in city driving, and 53 mpg‑US (4.4 L/100 km; 64 mpg‑imp) in highway. Only the Prius Eco has a higher EPA-rated fuel economy rating in hybrid mode.

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juliar Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 22966	Re: Hybrid cars Reply #45 - Jun 6^th, 2019 at 4:39pm BH is ducking and weaving. Prius is a slag on the highway because the little petrol motor is flat out moving all the dead weight at 110km/h once the main battery goes flat. Hybrids are good round town but don't like the open freeway at 110km/h unless they have a large enough petrol motor.
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Reply #46 - Jun 7^th, 2019 at 10:47am

juliar wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 4:39pm:

BH is ducking and weaving.

Prius is a slag on the highway because the little petrol motor is flat out moving all the dead weight at 110km/h once the main battery goes flat.

Hybrids are good round town but don't like the open freeway at 110km/h unless they have a large enough petrol motor.

It has a 1.8 litre motor,,, plenty of power for 110km's the only thing would change on a long stretch would be fuel economy....

The Toyota Prius is electric only at very low speeds, meaning that you’re always likely to be using the petrol engine during your journey.
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Reply #47 - Jun 7^th, 2019 at 2:42pm

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 10:47am:

juliar wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 4:39pm:

BH is ducking and weaving.

Prius is a slag on the highway because the little petrol motor is flat out moving all the dead weight at 110km/h once the main battery goes flat.

Hybrids are good round town but don't like the open freeway at 110km/h unless they have a large enough petrol motor.

It has a 1.8 litre motor,,, plenty of power for 110km's the only thing would change on a long stretch would be fuel economy....

The Toyota Prius is electric only at very low speeds, meaning that you’re always likely to be using the petrol engine during your journey.
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After test driving the RAV and having the Hybrid Corolla for a week, I'd actually prefer if they augmented the electric side of the vehicle and made it a plugin.

Add a bit more battery capacity and enable it to be pure EV up to about 80kph.

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Reply #48 - Jun 7^th, 2019 at 3:13pm

Gordon wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 2:42pm:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 10:47am:

juliar wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 4:39pm:

BH is ducking and weaving.

Prius is a slag on the highway because the little petrol motor is flat out moving all the dead weight at 110km/h once the main battery goes flat.

Hybrids are good round town but don't like the open freeway at 110km/h unless they have a large enough petrol motor.

It has a 1.8 litre motor,,, plenty of power for 110km's the only thing would change on a long stretch would be fuel economy....

The Toyota Prius is electric only at very low speeds, meaning that you’re always likely to be using the petrol engine during your journey.
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After test driving the RAV and having the Hybrid Corolla for a week, I'd actually prefer if they augmented the electric side of the vehicle and made it a plugin.

Add a bit more battery capacity and enable it to be pure EV up to about 80kph.

I guess the issue would be cost I guess.

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Reply #49 - Jun 7^th, 2019 at 3:17pm

juliar wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 4:39pm:

BH is ducking and weaving.

Prius is a slag on the highway because the little petrol motor is flat out moving all the dead weight at 110km/h once the main battery goes flat.

Hybrids are good round town but don't like the open freeway at 110km/h unless they have a large enough petrol motor.

The current Prius has a 99 hp engine and weighs about 1300 kilos.

By contrast a VB commodore with double the engine size, made only a little more power and weighed about as much.

You do not need all the power onthe freeway. Power and torque are only there from stop start.

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Reply #51 - Jun 8^th, 2019 at 7:02am

juliar wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 5:27pm:

BH is doing a bit of armchair arm waving.

Something as tiddly as a Prius needs all it's got and MORE to keep up 110km/h on the freeway. Especially on an up hill run.

Even if you where right Jules,
If you buy a prius for city use and it uses a third of the fuel of any other car, what does it matter ?

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Reply #54 - Jun 12^th, 2019 at 3:02pm

Now BH is getting annoyed.

A Prius towing a caravan uphill closes that lane off for hours.

And an all electric heap towing a caravan uphill closes the whole highway when the lithium battery overheats and explodes!!!!

The world is impatiently waiting for the HYDROGEN SAVIOR which will take over when oil runs out.

Japan is going all out to become the first HYDROGEN POWERED COUNTRY.

And ScoMo needs to divert wasted subsidy away from renewable rubbish to hydrogen production to improve Australia's security from depending on fuel being imported.

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Reply #55 - Jun 12^th, 2019 at 3:17pm

juliar wrote on Jun 12^th, 2019 at 3:02pm:

Now BH is getting annoyed.

A Prius towing a caravan uphill closes that lane off for hours.

And an all electric heap towing a caravan uphill closes the whole highway when the lithium battery overheats and explodes!!!!

The world is impatiently waiting for the HYDROGEN SAVIOR which will take over when oil runs out.

Japan is going all out to become the first HYDROGEN POWERED COUNTRY.

And ScoMo needs to divert wasted subsidy away from renewable rubbish to hydrogen production to improve Australia's security from depending on fuel being imported.

Prius's don't use lithium batteries Jules Cheesy

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Reply #57 - Jun 13^th, 2019 at 12:08pm

juliar wrote on Jun 12^th, 2019 at 3:02pm:

Now BH is getting annoyed.

A Prius towing a caravan uphill closes that lane off for hours.

And an all electric heap towing a caravan uphill closes the whole highway when the lithium battery overheats and explodes!!!!

The world is impatiently waiting for the HYDROGEN SAVIOR which will take over when oil runs out.

Japan is going all out to become the first HYDROGEN POWERED COUNTRY.

And ScoMo needs to divert wasted subsidy away from renewable rubbish to hydrogen production to improve Australia's security from depending on fuel being imported.

And juliar once again shows the psychiatric illness and refuses to answer.

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Reply #61 - Jun 13^th, 2019 at 1:43pm

The totally looney Greeny bloodclots Tweedledumb and Tweedledee are just so unbelievably ignorant as they continue their childish HATE SESSIONS against me.

But then what else can you expect from inadequate creatures that are just child's minds that never developed in Adult bodies - classic dumb Greenies ?

These sad failures follow me around like lost puppies because they worship the ground I walk on.

And BH is getting quite kranky as the queue of traffic behind his struggling underpowered Prius with a flat battery extends to 20 kms as he tows a caravan uphill at 35km/h on a 100km/h freeway. Will the cops book him ?

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Reply #62 - Jun 13^th, 2019 at 1:48pm

And BH is getting quite kranky as the queue of traffic behind his struggling underpowered Prius with a flat battery extends to 20 kms as he tows a caravan uphill at 35km/h on a 100km/h freeway. Will the cops book him ?

Why would I be towing a caravan with a Prius.

1. I don't own a caravan
2. Its the wrong car for the job
3. If god had meant us to use caravans, he would not have invented camping or motels.
4. When the bugger did towing come into it.

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Reply #63 - Jun 13^th, 2019 at 1:50pm

Actually hybrids go well while the battery is OK but start to sputter when the battery is on its last legs.

Out on a long trip on the freeway is judgement day for a hybrid as after the battery goes flat all that is left is the little petrol engine which has then to lug the flat heavy battery as well as the passengers.

Rumor is that the Prius conks out like this on the highway.

Round town hybrids are good as there is lots of slowing and braking to recharge the battery.

With an all electric heap all that is left when the battery goes flat is a very expensive tow.
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Heres juiliars first post, where is there a mention of a caravan?

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Reply #65 - Jun 13^th, 2019 at 3:28pm

juliar wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 1:43pm:

The totally looney Greeny bloodclots Tweedledumb and Tweedledee are just so unbelievably ignorant as they continue their childish HATE SESSIONS against me.

But then what else can you expect from inadequate creatures that are just child's minds that never developed in Adult bodies - classic dumb Greenies ?

These sad failures follow me around like lost puppies because they worship the ground I walk on.

And BH is getting quite kranky as the queue of traffic behind his struggling underpowered Prius with a flat battery extends to 20 kms as he tows a caravan uphill at 35km/h on a 100km/h freeway. Will the cops book him ?

ADANI HAS BEEN APPROVED IN QLD!!!!!! Hip Hip Hooray!!!!! LUNATIC EXTREMIST GREEENIES committing suicide!!!!!!

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Reply #67 - Jun 27^th, 2019 at 8:51pm

BH certainly has a nice way with words.

I was merely moving from the armchair arm waving environment to a realism scenario out on the road and introduced a caravan to accentuate the pain felt by a Prius trying to go up an incline when it has a flat battery.

See then the little Prius petrol motor has to pull the weight of the car plus the weight of the passengers plus the weight of the heavy flat battery PLUS try to recharge the flat battery and so it slows dramatically. Oh and PLUS the weight of the caravan.

But BH has difficulty in negotiating through the transmutation of such a surrealistic transmogrification.

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