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Reply #15 - May 14th, 2019 at 10:20am
 
mothra wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 10:18am:
Gnads wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 10:14am:
That would explain a lot because regardless of where they live they are Muslim only and Islam comes before everything....... including your own children. Roll Eyes



Where do you learn this crap? Jihad Watch?


The only crap espoused here comes off your fingers.
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Reply #16 - May 14th, 2019 at 10:22am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 10:01am:
aquascoot wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 9:58am:
Dabeq is the official magazine distributed to the 100's of 1000's fighting in the caliphate.

they actually have a consensus that they dont like people like YOU calling them criminals and terrorists.
they want YOU to acknowledge what they are fighting for.

why would you not believe them?



Oh, I don't know, something to do with them being murdering bastards maybe.   Roll Eyes

Call me crazy, but I don't believe everything criminals tell me.

I want to know why you do, though.

So, why do you trust criminals so much - why do you have so much faith in them?



aqua?

I'm still curious.
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Reply #17 - May 14th, 2019 at 10:23am
 
Gnads wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 10:20am:
mothra wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 10:18am:
Gnads wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 10:14am:
That would explain a lot because regardless of where they live they are Muslim only and Islam comes before everything....... including your own children. Roll Eyes



Where do you learn this crap? Jihad Watch?


The only crap espoused here comes off your fingers.


Whilst i am grateful for your accolades, this is demonstrably untrue as what you just wrote was utter crap.
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Reply #18 - May 14th, 2019 at 10:24am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 10:19am:
A group of random men write about their beliefs, and aquascoot faithfully believes it all without questioning a word.

What does that remind me of?   Undecided



a group of random men?
hardly.
the official magazine of the caliphate



Dabiq (Arabic: دابق‎) was an online magazine used by the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) for Islamic radicalisation[1] and recruitment.[2] It was first published in July 2014 in a number of different languages (including English). Dabiq itself states the magazine is for the purposes of unitarianism, truth-seeking, migration, holy war and community (tawhid, manhaj, hijrah, jihad and jama'ah respectively).


Contents
1      Details
2      Issues
3      Notes
4      See also
5      References
6      External links
Details
Dabiq was published by ISIL , although it was widely available online through other sources.[3][4][5][6] The first issue carried the date "Ramadan 1435" in the Islamic Hijri calendar.[2] According to the magazine, its name was taken from the town of Dabiq in northern Syria, which is mentioned in a hadith about Armageddon.[7] ISIL believes Dabiq is where Muslim and infidel forces will eventually face each other.[2][8] After the crusader forces' defeat, the apocalypse will begin.[9] Every issue of Dabiq contained a quote attributed to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi: "The spark has been lit here in Iraq, and its heat will continue to intensify –by Allah's permission- until it burns the crusader armies in Dabiq".[10]

Harleen K. Gambhir of the Institute for the Study of War considered that while al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula's magazine Inspire focuses on encouraging its readers to carry out lone-wolf attacks on the West, Dabiq was more concerned with establishing the religious legitimacy of ISIL and its self-proclaimed caliphate, and encouraging Muslims to emigrate there.[11] In its October 2014 issue, an article outlined religious justifications for slavery and praised its revival.[1][12][13][14][15]

ISIL has used its Dabiq magazine to express its strong opposition to groups including Christians,[16][17][18][19] Jews,[20][21][22][23] Hindus,[24][25] Shia Muslims[26][27][28][29] and the Muslim Brotherhood.[30][31][32][33]

In September 2016, ISIL replaced Dabiq with another online magazine, Rumiyah (Arabic for Rome), published in English and other languages. Analysts speculated this was due to ISIL being driven out of the town of Dabiq by the Turkish Military and Syrian Rebels in October 2016. The new title refers to an Islamic prophecy about the fall of Rome.[34][35][36][37]

Issues
Issue      Cover title[n 1]      Date (Hijri)[n 2]      Date (Gregorian)      Publication frequency[n 3]
1
"The Return of Khilafah"      Ramadan 1435      5 July 2014      
2
"The Flood"      Ramadan 1435      27 July 2014      22
3
"A Call to Hijrah"      Shawwal 1435      10 September 2014      45
4
"The Failed Crusade"      Dhul-Hijjah 1435      11 October 2014      31
5
"Remaining and Expanding"      Muharram 1436      21 November 2014      41
6
"Al Qa'idah of Waziristan: A Testimony from Within"      Rabi' Al-Awwal 1436      29 December 2014      38
7
"From Hypocrisy to Apostasy: The Extinction of the Grayzone"      Rabi'Al-Akhir 1436      12 February 2015      45
8
"Shari'ah Alone Will Rule Africa"      Jumada al-Akhirah 1436      30 March 2015      46
9
"They Plot and Allah Plots"      Sha'ban 1436      21 May 2015      52
10
"The Law of Allah or the Laws of Men"      Ramadan 1436      13 July 2015      53
11
"From the Battles of Al-Ahzāb to the War of Coalitions"      Dhul Qa'Dah 1436      9 September 2015      27
12
"Just Terror"      Safar 1437      18 November 2015      101
13
"The Rafidah from Ibn Saba' to the Dajjal"      Rabi'Al-Akhir 1437      19 January 2016      62
14
"The Murtadd Brotherhood"      Rajab 1437      13 April 2016      85
15
"Break the Cross"      Shawwal 1437      31 July 2016      109
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Reply #19 - May 14th, 2019 at 10:30am
 
aquascoot wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 8:04am:


......when you read a report by a Finnish born woman who went to fight with ISIS and who is SO JOYFUL that her 10 yo son was martyred because it was Allahs will. and when you think she came from one of the most advanced economies on earth, you realise ISIS has far from run its course and
we are in for a very long and interesting ride





aquascoot,

I don't disagree with that assessment.


But why ?

Ask youself, WHY are we, "....in for a very long and interesting ride".    ???



'The fault, dear Brutus, lies not in our stars, but in ourselves if we are underlings.'
- William Shakespeare, Julius Ceasar


The fault, dear aqua, lies not in ISIS [per se] or even in ISLAM, but in ourselves.

Why don't we, and our leaders, see recognise and openly acknowledge how abhorrent a philosophy, ISLAM is ?




aqua,

If you are interested, chase up this quote....

"Bernard was right; the pathogen is nothing; the terrain is everything."
- Louis Pasteur's deathbed words Winifred


WE, are the 'terrain', aqua.

Our society.

Our society, is morally corrupt.

We once did,   ....but we no longer know how to choose the good, and to reject the wicked, the evil.

And what we have built, our 'house', is going to be 'removed', one way, or another.



Look at the world.

Mankind.

We are all stumbling along a path, in darkness, approaching the edge of a precipice.

And when we all tumble over that precipice, it will be ourselves, who are to blame.
....coz we rejected the light.



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Psalms 7:15
He made a pit, and digged it, and is fallen into the ditch which he made.



My advice ?

Get right with your God.
....which is very difficult, for those who     know     that God does not exist.



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Reply #20 - May 14th, 2019 at 10:36am
 

aqua: why do you trust criminals so much - why do you have so much faith in them?

You say Trump doesn't lie, and now you claim that murderers never lie either.

There's a pattern forming here.

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Reply #21 - May 14th, 2019 at 10:44am
 
mothra wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 10:23am:
Gnads wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 10:20am:
mothra wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 10:18am:
Gnads wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 10:14am:
That would explain a lot because regardless of where they live they are Muslim only and Islam comes before everything....... including your own children. Roll Eyes



Where do you learn this crap? Jihad Watch?


The only crap espoused here comes off your fingers.


Whilst i am grateful for your accolades, this is demonstrably untrue as what you just wrote was utter crap.


No it's not.....

Your turn to say ..... yes it is.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #22 - May 14th, 2019 at 10:50am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 10:36am:
aqua: why do you trust criminals so much - why do you have so much faith in them?

You say Trump doesn't lie, and now you claim that murderers never lie either.

There's a pattern forming here.




Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

What’s equally if not more important to understand
is that we fght you, not simply to punish and deter
you, but to bring you true freedom in this life and
salvation in the Hereafter, freedom from being enslaved to your whims and desires as well as those of your
clergy and legislatures, and salvation by worshiping
your Creator alone and following His messenger. We
fght you in order to bring you out from the darkness
of disbelief and into the light of Islam, and to liberate
you from the constraints of living for the sake of the
worldly life alone so that you may enjoy both the blessings of the worldly life and the bliss of the Hereafter.


dabiq alone was able to recruit 70 finnish people to join the caliphate.

a very effective recruiting tool it would seem.
and the arguments are all about the religion.
if its not the religion, then why would finns be saying its about the religion  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

A woman describes her experiences of growing up in Helsinki and moving to the area called as the caliphate by Isis in a recent edition of Dabiq, a propaganda magazine published online by the terrorist organisation, both Helsingin Sanomat and STT have reported.

“I come from Finland, a ‘Christian’ nation where people do not strongly adhere to their corrupted religion,” she writes under the nom de guerre of Umm Khalid al-Finlandyyah.

The woman describes in the article how she began to question the teachings of Christianity, converted to Islam, gradually radicalised and, eventually, moved to the area governed by Isis

Dabiq is published in a variety of languages and used by the terrorist organisation as a tool to radicalise and recruit foreigners, according to the Washington Post. The magazine also portrays Isis as the only true voice of Muslims, writes Helsingin Sanomat. STT, meanwhile, reminds that it is virtually impossible to verify the gender or nationality of those contributing to the magazine, let alone the veracity of their accounts.

The Finnish Security Intelligence Service (Supo) admits in its latest yearbook that its workload has grown due to the number of people who have left Finland to travel the conflict-ridden areas in Iraq and Syria.

At least 70 adults and dozens of children had travelled to the area by the end of [2015], according to Supo.

Supo also estimates that the ongoing conflict will have a long-term impact on security in Finland: “A new generation of jihadists, among them also Finnish nationals, is growing up [in] the areas controlled by terrorist organisations in Syria and Iraq. Due to terrorist fighters originating from Finland, also foreign radical Islamists know Finland better than before.”


i suppose gweg knows more then the finnish security services.
after all finland is a hot bed of islamophobia  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #23 - May 14th, 2019 at 10:52am
 

ISIS, according to aquascoot:

- murderers?  Yes!

- torturers?  Yes!

- misogynists?  Yes!

- homophobes?  Yes!

- liars? How could you even suggest such a thing   Angry
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Reply #24 - May 14th, 2019 at 11:00am
 
nothing to do with the koran gweg ?
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Reply #25 - May 14th, 2019 at 11:02am
 
Gnads wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 10:44am:
mothra wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 10:23am:
Gnads wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 10:20am:
mothra wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 10:18am:
Gnads wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 10:14am:
That would explain a lot because regardless of where they live they are Muslim only and Islam comes before everything....... including your own children. Roll Eyes



Where do you learn this crap? Jihad Watch?


The only crap espoused here comes off your fingers.


Whilst i am grateful for your accolades, this is demonstrably untrue as what you just wrote was utter crap.


No it's not.....

Your turn to say ..... yes it is.  Roll Eyes


Which statement? The one where you stated that all Muslims put their religion before their children or the one in which you claim i'm the only poster on this forum to speak crap?

To your first, you simply cannot know that and there is no evidence to suggest it so it's obviously crap.

As to your second comment, even if i did only speak crap, i'm far from the only person on this forum to do so. Or do agree with everything everyone else says all the time? At once?

So, yeah, it is.

Your turn to say "No, it's not". Is that the rules?
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Reply #26 - May 14th, 2019 at 11:06am
 
aquascoot wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 11:00am:
nothing to do with the koran gweg ?


Not a convenient excuse, aqua?

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Reply #27 - May 14th, 2019 at 11:16am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 11:06am:
aquascoot wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 11:00am:
nothing to do with the koran gweg ?


Not a convenient excuse, aqua?




dabiq, the official magazine of the 100's of 1000's of fighters says that it is totally to do with the koran.

you say they are just psychopaths and that the koran is irrelevant.

may i suggest , if you have the courage of your convictions that you burn a copy, make a video identifiying yourself and your address, post it online and then get back to us as to whether it has anything to do with the koran (or dont get back to us as the case may be  Grin Grin)
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Reply #28 - May 14th, 2019 at 11:18am
 
mothra wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 11:02am:
Gnads wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 10:44am:
mothra wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 10:23am:
Gnads wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 10:20am:
mothra wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 10:18am:
Gnads wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 10:14am:
That would explain a lot because regardless of where they live they are Muslim only and Islam comes before everything....... including your own children. Roll Eyes



Where do you learn this crap? Jihad Watch?


The only crap espoused here comes off your fingers.


Whilst i am grateful for your accolades, this is demonstrably untrue as what you just wrote was utter crap.


No it's not.....

Your turn to say ..... yes it is.  Roll Eyes


Which statement? The one where you stated that all Muslims put their religion before their children or the one in which you claim i'm the only poster on this forum to speak crap?

To your first, you simply cannot know that and there is no evidence to suggest it so it's obviously crap.

As to your second comment, even if i did only speak crap, i'm far from the only person on this forum to do so. Or do agree with everything everyone else says all the time? At once?

So, yeah, it is.

Your turn to say "No, it's not". Is that the rules?


You started it..... and yes it is.

So farcough.
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Reply #29 - May 14th, 2019 at 11:18am
 
aquascoot wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 11:16am:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 11:06am:
aquascoot wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 11:00am:
nothing to do with the koran gweg ?


Not a convenient excuse, aqua?




dabiq, the official magazine of the 100's of 1000's of fighters says that it is totally to do with the koran.



Why do you have 100% faith in what criminals tell you?

You still haven't given an answer.

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