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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 40427 Gender:	Re: The tide is turning for Rupert Reply #15 - May 13^th, 2019 at 6:14pm News Corp supported Whitlam in 1972 and Rudd in 2007.
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 34499 Gender:	Re: The tide is turning for Rupert Reply #16 - May 13^th, 2019 at 6:19pm Frank wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 6:14pm: News Corp supported Whitlam in 1972 and Rudd in 2007. They shouldn't support anyone.
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Re: The tide is turning for Rupert
Reply #17 - May 13^th, 2019 at 6:27pm

mothra wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 6:03pm:

cods wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 5:51pm:

mothra wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 5:47pm:

Did you read the article, Cods? Are you not troubled by it?

its all about shortarse not interested in him I am afraid..

hes two faced...deceived his wife deceived his union members he was meant to be working for. deceived krudd deceived gillard......

hes all yours.

as for murdoch!!!!! dont read his papers simples really...

I dont read the guardian. or fairfax whats left of it.

It's not all about Shorten at all. You really should read it.

alright POOR SHORTARSE... Roll Eyes

how hard doneby he is..

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Reply #18 - May 13^th, 2019 at 6:29pm

cods wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 6:27pm:

mothra wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 6:03pm:

cods wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 5:51pm:

mothra wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 5:47pm:

Did you read the article, Cods? Are you not troubled by it?

its all about shortarse not interested in him I am afraid..

hes two faced...deceived his wife deceived his union members he was meant to be working for. deceived krudd deceived gillard......

hes all yours.

as for murdoch!!!!! dont read his papers simples really...

I dont read the guardian. or fairfax whats left of it.

It's not all about Shorten at all. You really should read it.

alright POOR SHORTARSE... Roll Eyes

how hard doneby he is..

Shorten is hardly mentioned. You really should read it.

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Re: The tide is turning for Rupert
Reply #19 - May 13^th, 2019 at 6:35pm

mothra wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 6:19pm:

Frank wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 6:14pm:

News Corp supported Whitlam in 1972 and Rudd in 2007.

They shouldn't support anyone.

you said that with a smile didnt you????...

he is a free enterprise man.... he doesnt get PAID by the taxpayer like the ABC....and or the BBC in another country...

he didnt promise more money to the Libs like shortarse just did to the ABC...

come on mothra...take those star spangled specs off..

your a lefty who cares?? only you and js....

seriously what does it have to do with anyone who reads WHAT.. Roll Eyes

we have as much right to read and make our own choices as lefties do..

yet as we see with JS he likes using names for everyone who disagrees with him......attack first... Roll Eyes

... a bit like brian....I dont think anyone gets anywhere having an attitude like that do you?...

and that goes for all sides..... we do have more than two sides now on here...

if someone wants to read the Catholic times and believe every word thats up to them......

if I can express my opinion ... and yes mothra it usually is my opinion....

I prefer to debate on that!

rather than the words of someone I have never met and never likely too....

I mean the person who is nameless who wrote the article...

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Reply #20 - May 13^th, 2019 at 6:46pm

cods wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 6:35pm:

mothra wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 6:19pm:

Frank wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 6:14pm:

News Corp supported Whitlam in 1972 and Rudd in 2007.

They shouldn't support anyone.

you said that with a smile didnt you????...

he is a free enterprise man.... he doesnt get PAID by the taxpayer like the ABC....and or the BBC in another country...

he didnt promise more money to the Libs like shortarse just did to the ABC...

come on mothra...take those star spangled specs off..

your a lefty who cares?? only you and js....

seriously what does it have to do with anyone who reads WHAT.. Roll Eyes

we have as much right to read and make our own choices as lefties do..

yet as we see with JS he likes using names for everyone who disagrees with him......attack first... Roll Eyes

... a bit like brian....I dont think anyone gets anywhere having an attitude like that do you?...

and that goes for all sides..... we do have more than two sides now on here...

if someone wants to read the Catholic times and believe every word thats up to them......

if I can express my opinion ... and yes mothra it usually is my opinion....

I prefer to debate on that!

rather than the words of someone I have never met and never likely too....

I mean the person who is nameless who wrote the article...

Enough with the left and right stuff Cods. It's so tiresome.

The problem is that your opinion is informed by extremely coercive journalism with a near monopoly. As is the majority of Australians.

It is directly interfering with our democratic process and we should simply not accept that.

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Reply #21 - May 13^th, 2019 at 6:47pm

mothra wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 6:19pm:

Frank wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 6:14pm:

News Corp supported Whitlam in 1972 and Rudd in 2007.

They shouldn't support anyone.

I don't consume any Murdoch news products (except for picking up the smellograph at the barber) but they're free to support any political ideology they like.

Its not like people don't know they're not a generally biased organisation.

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Reply #22 - May 13^th, 2019 at 6:56pm

Just love rupert.
A superior man.
At the action, not the reaction( like mothra and smith)
A man on a mission and with purpose ( not like mothra and smithy just durpping around)
A man of influence.
A man who is assertive, confident and is not a spineless panderer

I suppose mothra and smith try to feel morally superior to rupert.
Moral superiority is the consolation prize for being a failure in life.

But I ask this,
If mothra or smith had total control of a global media company , would THEY be impartial,
Would THEY not try to put forward their ideology.

Deny that if you dare Cheesy

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72209 Gender:	Re: The tide is turning for Rupert Reply #23 - May 13^th, 2019 at 7:13pm aquascoot wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 6:56pm: If mothra or smith had total control of a global media company , would THEY be impartial, Yes, I would. Professionalism is important to me.
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Reply #24 - May 13^th, 2019 at 8:30pm

Frank wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 6:06pm:

John Smith wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 5:35pm:

No one really thinks newscorp is anything other than the propaganda arm of the liberal party, do they?

I don't know why is is allowed to get away with lie after lie ... he should have been shut down ages ago

Phillip Adams has been writing for it for decades. Peter van Onselen for years.

The Australian is in fact the best newspaper in Australia, far more balanced and centrist than the ABC or Fairfax - neither of which has a single right of centre regular contributor.

There is no 'Murdoch' interference -none of the editors of any of the News Corp papers would stand for it. It's a conspiracy myth lefties always propagate about anyone and anything that doesn't side with their Bolshevik agit prop.

The title of this laughable piece is instructive.

Mounting evidence the tide is turning on News Corp, and its owner

There is no tide and there is no turning. And certainly no evidence.
Shorten said no to meeting Murdoch during the election campaign IF he was in America (which, of course he will not be during the campaign). And .... er... that's it.

And this from a senior researcher at a university journalism school. Ho ridiculous can you get???

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neither of which has a single right of centre regular contributor.

You are very wrong.

Also do you know that of the ABC employees who have gone into politics more have represented the Liberals than Labor ?

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Reply #25 - May 13^th, 2019 at 8:34pm

Frank wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 6:14pm:

News Corp supported Whitlam in 1972 and Rudd in 2007.

Only at the point where it would have damaged their credibility to not support them. The Liberals they opposed were on the nose.

It is worth noting that in both cases they well and truly made up for it with the same type of ongoing relentless criticism right through their terms in office.

News were relentless against Rudd and Gillard, they managed to create most of the perceived disharmony with their fake news eventually driving misguided leadership changes to try and stop it.

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Reply #26 - May 13^th, 2019 at 8:47pm

mothra wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 6:46pm:

cods wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 6:35pm:

mothra wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 6:19pm:

Frank wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 6:14pm:

News Corp supported Whitlam in 1972 and Rudd in 2007.

They shouldn't support anyone.

you said that with a smile didnt you????...

he is a free enterprise man.... he doesnt get PAID by the taxpayer like the ABC....and or the BBC in another country...

he didnt promise more money to the Libs like shortarse just did to the ABC...

come on mothra...take those star spangled specs off..

your a lefty who cares?? only you and js....

seriously what does it have to do with anyone who reads WHAT.. Roll Eyes

we have as much right to read and make our own choices as lefties do..

yet as we see with JS he likes using names for everyone who disagrees with him......attack first... Roll Eyes

... a bit like brian....I dont think anyone gets anywhere having an attitude like that do you?...

and that goes for all sides..... we do have more than two sides now on here...

if someone wants to read the Catholic times and believe every word thats up to them......

if I can express my opinion ... and yes mothra it usually is my opinion....

I prefer to debate on that!

rather than the words of someone I have never met and never likely too....

I mean the person who is nameless who wrote the article...

Enough with the left and right stuff Cods. It's so tiresome.

The problem is that your opinion is informed by extremely coercive journalism with a near monopoly. As is the majority of Australians.

It is directly interfering with our democratic process and we should simply not accept that.

seriously

ok mothra no good arguing with you

you are right in your own mind Roll Eyes

and we all know whats all that matters to you..

your tiresome when you repeat yourself all the time as well mothra but I keep silent about that..

did you read the article cods..

which means... do you read it the way I do... if you dont! it proves to me you didnt read it..

you mothra have made up your mind about the article and you only want those who agree with your determination to comment...

fine.. leave me out of it... we are opposites what on earth do you expect...

I am not a child I do make up my own mind... as anyone who bothers to read me instead of judging me would know!..

I dont want this conversation I thought we were talking about difference of political parties... but apparently we are not...

left and right for gods sakes...

ok I get it this is a right bashing thread... excuse me. I am gone..

if you want righties to bash the Libs.. Roll Eyes

you have come to the wrong place you need monks site... thats all they do over there..

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Reply #27 - May 13^th, 2019 at 8:49pm

Dnarever wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 8:34pm:

Frank wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 6:14pm:

News Corp supported Whitlam in 1972 and Rudd in 2007.

Only at the point where it would have damaged their credibility to not support them. The Liberals they opposed were on the nose.

It is worth noting that in both cases they well and truly made up for it with the same type of ongoing relentless criticism right through their terms in office.

News were relentless against Rudd and Gillard, they managed to create most of the perceived disharmony with their fake news eventually driving misguided leadership changes to try and stop it.

what a load of bull shite... what have we listened too for the past 6 years......and who started the leadership assassinations thats right the very bloke your voting in..

pointing fingers dna... you do it all the time.. Roll Eyes

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it just reminds us what your mob did...

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Reply #28 - May 13^th, 2019 at 8:53pm

Frank wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 6:14pm:

News Corp supported Whitlam in 1972 and Rudd in 2007.

Do you see that that makes 2 between 1950 and 2019 and in both cases they went into overdrive to get rid of them.

The point is that they should have no input in politics at all. Media should report events not be a part of them and should not be interfering with elections by dishonestly influencing or driving voter opinion.

The things which have been done by News Ltd in Australian elections should not be legal.

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Reply #29 - May 13^th, 2019 at 8:59pm

cods wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 8:47pm:

mothra wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 6:46pm:

cods wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 6:35pm:

mothra wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 6:19pm:

Frank wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 6:14pm:

News Corp supported Whitlam in 1972 and Rudd in 2007.

They shouldn't support anyone.

you said that with a smile didnt you????...

he is a free enterprise man.... he doesnt get PAID by the taxpayer like the ABC....and or the BBC in another country...

he didnt promise more money to the Libs like shortarse just did to the ABC...

come on mothra...take those star spangled specs off..

your a lefty who cares?? only you and js....

seriously what does it have to do with anyone who reads WHAT.. Roll Eyes

we have as much right to read and make our own choices as lefties do..

yet as we see with JS he likes using names for everyone who disagrees with him......attack first... Roll Eyes

... a bit like brian....I dont think anyone gets anywhere having an attitude like that do you?...

and that goes for all sides..... we do have more than two sides now on here...

if someone wants to read the Catholic times and believe every word thats up to them......

if I can express my opinion ... and yes mothra it usually is my opinion....

I prefer to debate on that!

rather than the words of someone I have never met and never likely too....

I mean the person who is nameless who wrote the article...

Enough with the left and right stuff Cods. It's so tiresome.

The problem is that your opinion is informed by extremely coercive journalism with a near monopoly. As is the majority of Australians.

It is directly interfering with our democratic process and we should simply not accept that.

seriously

ok mothra no good arguing with you

you are right in your own mind Roll Eyes

and we all know whats all that matters to you..

your tiresome when you repeat yourself all the time as well mothra but I keep silent about that..

did you read the article cods..

which means... do you read it the way I do... if you dont! it proves to me you didnt read it..

you mothra have made up your mind about the article and you only want those who agree with your determination to comment...

fine.. leave me out of it... we are opposites what on earth do you expect...

I am not a child I do make up my own mind... as anyone who bothers to read me instead of judging me would know!..

I dont want this conversation I thought we were talking about difference of political parties... but apparently we are not...

left and right for gods sakes...

ok I get it this is a right bashing thread... excuse me. I am gone..

if you want righties to bash the Libs.. Roll Eyes

you have come to the wrong place you need monks site... thats all they do over there..

Geez Cods. A simple yes or no would have sufficed.

Look, it's not about the left or the right. That has absolutely nothing to do with it. That's why i keep asking you if you've read the article. You're launching into a fight i do not mean to have and has nothing to do with the thread.

It's about the major source of media in Australia, upon which many people rely to be informed, is behaving extremely dishonestly, corruptly and unscrupulously.

The journalists who work for these papers are saying it.

It's not about Shorten. It's not about the left and the right.

It's about what we should or should not allow to proceed unchecked as consumers and, dare i say it, targets.

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