Ajax wrote on May 12
th, 2019 at 11:41am:
PZ547 wrote on May 12
th, 2019 at 11:29am:
Ajax wrote on May 12
th, 2019 at 11:08am:
Yesterday I went to the footy GO PIES….!!!
A friend and I caught the train in and at the top end of town on the way to the G there were homeless people sleeping on the footpath of Collins street.
Then when we were headed back home on the train across the road from the casino/yarra under the rail bridge again a number of people setting up their bed for the night.
Very sad to see these homeless people sleeping on concrete, one thing is for sure they’re probably not around for long in the winter since they would be prone to pneumonia and god knows what.
I don’t know what can be done about this problem but it’s sad and all that we saw were men.
I wonder if half were women if the government or society would change its stance on homeless people.
Women are more ashamed of living on the street and try to stay out of sight, unless they're too gone in the head
Don't know if you've seen all the news reports about women living in their car, many of them employed? Many have children and pets. Somehow they manage to get their kids off to school, take the pets for a run before taking the car to work. They're waiting for subsidised housing. Raising families on their own in dire circumstances. Where are the fathers?
A woman I know of had full-time employment, public service. Good pay. Don't know what she was doing with her money, although she was close to being full-time at the pubs outside of working hours. She showered somewhere in the city, blow-dried her hair. Kept her clothes in lockers at work until told to stop. Spent hours in the office outside working hours, claiming she was 'catching up' on work, emails etc. -- until told she must stop. Had her mail delivered to work, until told it must stop. She had a married daughter (with family) close to her place of employment and the daughter let her live there until it became too much. So she'd live there a week or so before being asked to leave. Month later she was back at the daughter's until told to leave again
The woman was close to sixty. Always appeared well dressed. Avoided actual work whenever possible, claiming a variety of physical conditions. Eventually she was phased out of the workplace after which she spent most of her time in pubs, according to those who knew her
She'd had a partner for many years, but when that fell through, she was left homeless
good pay through decades, yet nothing to show for it
Every circumstance is different
You say:
Quote:I wonder if half were women if the government or society would change its stance on homeless people
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You think homelessness is a sexist issue?
How many homeless men living under bridges
with their kids have you seen?
I'm not trying to be sexist man or woman its sad to see sorry if it came across like that.
There should be some sort of support that's what I'm getting at helping these people.
Most of us feel the same way
but as someone in this thread has already said, some of them are happy enough with their lot
they receive welfare
what more can society do, other than provide money and housing where possible?
If they choose to enter shelters for the night, there are strict conditions, one of them being no drinking, no fighting, etc. After all, volunteers spend their own valuable time running those shelters and organising bedding and food for those in need. We've seen what's happening now to paramedics and hospital staff when trying to help those who're intoxicated, drunk and aggressive
They'll be provided rent allowance if they find somewhere to stay. Many people are scratching for money now, as always, and they advertise rooms for rent in their own homes. But again, no one wants a drunk or druggie around the place
so it's a matter of priorities -- place to live, no matter how humble, or drink/drugs
An elderly guy started to be seen in Burleigh Heads some years ago. He claimed he'd been cycling around Australia when he and his dog were hit by a car. The dog was killed, he said, and he'd spent weeks in hospital. He had everyone's sympathy, a good gift of the gab, and never wanted for food, clothing, because most people try to give a hand up. But the police were called to remove him from beneath the church, which was very close to the main street. The guy had taken to sleeping under the church, living off the generosity of shop owners, and spending his welfare on grog. He was removed from under the church numerous times and had been repeatedly offered housing. He refused housing offers and insisted he liked it under the church. People grew tired of him and their generosity dried up
every circumstance is different
a lot of the homeless have developed their own community. Many claim they're happier on the streets. Some exploit their situation
maybe if a gun was rammed into their back to drive them out of town, they might change their tune, who knows? Others are basically letting society know that they're beyond help and asking to be put out of their misery, while others have mental health problems (not the SJW variety) and should be in institutions -- same places they were before the government decided they'd be happier out on the street
no one has an answer, and every case is different
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