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42% of Australians fear becoming homeless ...
May 11^th, 2019 at 12:16pm

That is an indictment of the social and political systems in Australia with evidence building that the Australian economy is only buoyed by immigration.

The current financial distress is with interest rates at low levels. If interest rates rise there will be mayhem and property prices will plunge dramatically.

The A$ has just dropped below US$ 0.70 as the Trump tariffs on China rise dramatically. This could have an effect on Australian resource exporters.

When the sh*t is incoming will Australians have a fan let alone a home.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/commentisfree/2018/aug/07/public-hous...

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... The findings suggest more than half of all Australians feel stretched to meet their current housing commitments, be they mortgage or rent. Forty-two per cent fear they could become homeless if their circumstances change. The market no longer provides a buffer to middle Australia. ...

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 80183 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: 42% of Australians fear becoming homeless ... Reply #1 - May 11^th, 2019 at 7:08pm As before - you show the occasional moment of lucidity - stick with it, kid... This is a very good post....
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 80183 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: 42% of Australians fear becoming homeless ... Reply #2 - May 11^th, 2019 at 10:24pm Shows you the priorities, doesn't it? They're all over the coal thing, but nobody gives a damn about the homeless and the homeless in waiting....
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Reply #3 - May 12^th, 2019 at 7:20am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 11^th, 2019 at 10:24pm:

Shows you the priorities, doesn't it? They're all over the coal thing, but nobody gives a damn about the homeless and the homeless in waiting....

That's right.
You're not allowed to die, but we don't care how you live.

I find it funny when cops.come and move the homeless on. I asked a pair of smurfs one day "Where's he gonna go?" to which they replied "don't care, as long as he doesn't stay here".
Bloke was camped out in front of the big bank. Not allowed to stay there hey! Fkk em. All the homeless should camp out there, every night.....forever.

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Reply #5 - May 12^th, 2019 at 7:31am

Captain Caveman wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 7:20am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 11^th, 2019 at 10:24pm:

Shows you the priorities, doesn't it? They're all over the coal thing, but nobody gives a damn about the homeless and the homeless in waiting....

That's right.
You're not allowed to die, but we don't care how you live.

I find it funny when cops.come and move the homeless on. I asked a pair of smurfs one day "Where's he gonna go?" to which they replied "don't care, as long as he doesn't stay here".
Bloke was camped out in front of the big bank. Not allowed to stay there hey! Fkk em. All the homeless should camp out there, every night.....forever.

if you live in Tidy Town they do look messy.... Roll Eyes

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Reply #6 - May 12^th, 2019 at 7:44am

cods wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 7:31am:

Captain Caveman wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 7:20am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 11^th, 2019 at 10:24pm:

Shows you the priorities, doesn't it? They're all over the coal thing, but nobody gives a damn about the homeless and the homeless in waiting....

That's right.
You're not allowed to die, but we don't care how you live.

I find it funny when cops.come and move the homeless on. I asked a pair of smurfs one day "Where's he gonna go?" to which they replied "don't care, as long as he doesn't stay here".
Bloke was camped out in front of the big bank. Not allowed to stay there hey! Fkk em. All the homeless should camp out there, every night.....forever.

if you live in Tidy Town they do look messy.... Roll Eyes

And that is basically it.
Lives don't matter the way the news would have you believe. Lives are worthless when they look worthless. Yet a homeless man camped on the doorstep of an organisation that profits more than everyone's combined income on this forum on a monthly basis and he gets moved on. Sad hey? No wonder people are turning on this society. It is a joke. The charity comes from the people that almost need charity, while the big wigs keep burning us at the stake.

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Reply #7 - May 12^th, 2019 at 9:14am

Well - I went from owner of one home to buying a new one while married to a woman who worked for the State Premier, to homeless in about three years, between ages of 48 and 51 - after injury, job loss, divorce, and then illness.. as you all know by now, I've re-built and am now moving to an oceanside home (again, but with a comparatively small mortgage).... but without such experiences I would be retiring a rich man. I also plan to start advocating for Veterans and will stand for our local council next time around as a true Independent.

I can say this without fear of contradiction - when you are in that position the whole world turns against you and treats you like utter garbage. Even a lady I was shagging at one time when I thought I was stabilised again said to me that nobody gave one damn about what you are or have been - only what you seem to be now... then she dumped me as well due to peer pressure and her ex-husband's family pushing her around (country town - still exists in the 21st Century).

It is not for the faint-hearted, and it's a portion of my partial auto-bio that I've titled "Down Among The Dead Men"..... the funny thing is that while there I met at least two women who preferred living rough as a lifestyle... I suspected that at least one of them was an undercover journo or something - she was just too gorgie for words etc ...

As for my 'personal development ' as a result - I have far greater sympathy and understanding for those at the lower end of society now - certainly a lot more than I see from the elitists here of both left and right, which is one reason I champion the unemployed, the elderly, pensioners, the sick and the lame and halt etc.... and despise 'city hall' with its often pissant preference for groups who actually have far less need for money and services, and for the way it outright attacks those down on their luck.

Its treatment of me was contemptible, and I am unlikely to forget.

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Reply #8 - May 12^th, 2019 at 9:36am

Captain Caveman wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 7:44am:

cods wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 7:31am:

Captain Caveman wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 7:20am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 11^th, 2019 at 10:24pm:

Shows you the priorities, doesn't it? They're all over the coal thing, but nobody gives a damn about the homeless and the homeless in waiting....

That's right.
You're not allowed to die, but we don't care how you live.

I find it funny when cops.come and move the homeless on. I asked a pair of smurfs one day "Where's he gonna go?" to which they replied "don't care, as long as he doesn't stay here".
Bloke was camped out in front of the big bank. Not allowed to stay there hey! Fkk em. All the homeless should camp out there, every night.....forever.

if you live in Tidy Town they do look messy.... Roll Eyes

And that is basically it.
Lives don't matter the way the news would have you believe. Lives are worthless when they look worthless. Yet a homeless man camped on the doorstep of an organisation that profits more than everyone's combined income on this forum on a monthly basis and he gets moved on. Sad hey? No wonder people are turning on this society. It is a joke. The charity comes from the people that almost need charity, while the big wigs keep burning us at the stake.

its the way we are becoming.... surprisingly a lot of people who live in doorways or on parkbenches like it that way they dont want responsibility they like moving from place to place...not all of course....but many...

look at the people that do get homes provided people rent them decent homes to live in and they destroy them...I had it happen to me so I speak from experience...it is a tough world and getting harder by the day....

have you noticed the younger generation wants more and more for doing less and less...

I see empathy going out of the door faster than ever before..

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Re: 42% of Australians fear becoming homeless ...
Reply #9 - May 12^th, 2019 at 10:36am

Laugh till you cry wrote on May 11^th, 2019 at 12:16pm:

That is an indictment of the social and political systems in Australia with evidence building that the Australian economy is only buoyed by immigration.

The current financial distress is with interest rates at low levels. If interest rates rise there will be mayhem and property prices will plunge dramatically.

The A$ has just dropped below US$ 0.70 as the Trump tariffs on China rise dramatically. This could have an effect on Australian resource exporters.

When the sh*t is incoming will Australians have a fan let alone a home.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/commentisfree/2018/aug/07/public-hous...

Quote:

... The findings suggest more than half of all Australians feel stretched to meet their current housing commitments, be they mortgage or rent. Forty-two per cent fear they could become homeless if their circumstances change. The market no longer provides a buffer to middle Australia. ...

Correct me if I am wrong but to the best of my knowledge unemployed Australians get social security benefits that allow them to rent accommodation.
How can they be than homeless? unless they use government money for alcohol or gambling.
If it is the case than that's their problem.

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Reply #10 - May 12^th, 2019 at 10:41am

capitosinora wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 10:36am:

Laugh till you cry wrote on May 11^th, 2019 at 12:16pm:

That is an indictment of the social and political systems in Australia with evidence building that the Australian economy is only buoyed by immigration.

The current financial distress is with interest rates at low levels. If interest rates rise there will be mayhem and property prices will plunge dramatically.

The A$ has just dropped below US$ 0.70 as the Trump tariffs on China rise dramatically. This could have an effect on Australian resource exporters.

When the sh*t is incoming will Australians have a fan let alone a home.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/commentisfree/2018/aug/07/public-hous...

Quote:

... The findings suggest more than half of all Australians feel stretched to meet their current housing commitments, be they mortgage or rent. Forty-two per cent fear they could become homeless if their circumstances change. The market no longer provides a buffer to middle Australia. ...

Correct me if I am wrong but to the best of my knowledge unemployed Australians get social security benefits that allow them to rent accommodation.
How can they be than homeless? unless they use government money for alcohol or gambling.
If it is the case than that's their problem.

Could it be that it's a case of rents taking up more than their unemployment income including rental subsidy? Greed being good and all that....

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Reply #11 - May 12^th, 2019 at 10:56am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 10:41am:

capitosinora wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 10:36am:

Laugh till you cry wrote on May 11^th, 2019 at 12:16pm:

That is an indictment of the social and political systems in Australia with evidence building that the Australian economy is only buoyed by immigration.

The current financial distress is with interest rates at low levels. If interest rates rise there will be mayhem and property prices will plunge dramatically.

The A$ has just dropped below US$ 0.70 as the Trump tariffs on China rise dramatically. This could have an effect on Australian resource exporters.

When the sh*t is incoming will Australians have a fan let alone a home.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/commentisfree/2018/aug/07/public-hous...

Quote:

... The findings suggest more than half of all Australians feel stretched to meet their current housing commitments, be they mortgage or rent. Forty-two per cent fear they could become homeless if their circumstances change. The market no longer provides a buffer to middle Australia. ...

Correct me if I am wrong but to the best of my knowledge unemployed Australians get social security benefits that allow them to rent accommodation.
How can they be than homeless? unless they use government money for alcohol or gambling.
If it is the case than that's their problem.

Could it be that it's a case of rents taking up more than their unemployment income including rental subsidy? Greed being good and all that....

I guess they can, for example, afford shear accommodation.

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Reply #12 - May 12^th, 2019 at 11:08am

Yesterday I went to the footy GO PIES….!!!

A friend and I caught the train in and at the top end of town on the way to the G there were homeless people sleeping on the footpath of Collins street.

Then when we were headed back home on the train across the road from the casino/yarra under the rail bridge again a number of people setting up their bed for the night.

Very sad to see these homeless people sleeping on concrete, one thing is for sure they’re probably not around for long in the winter since they would be prone to pneumonia and god knows what.

I don’t know what can be done about this problem but it’s sad and all that we saw were men.

I wonder if half were women if the government or society would change its stance on homeless people.

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Reply #13 - May 12^th, 2019 at 11:19am

Ajax wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 11:08am:

Yesterday I went to the footy GO PIES….!!!

A friend and I caught the train in and at the top end of town on the way to the G there were homeless people sleeping on the footpath of Collins street.

Then when we were headed back home on the train across the road from the casino/yarra under the rail bridge again a number of people setting up their bed for the night.

Very sad to see these homeless people sleeping on concrete, one thing is for sure they’re probably not around for long in the winter since they would be prone to pneumonia and god knows what.

I don’t know what can be done about this problem but it’s sad and all that we saw were men.

I wonder if half were women if the government or society would change its stance on homeless people.

It is sad. That is why I can't understand how our piss weak gov help hundreds of thousands of people that don't live here yet the ones that do....tuff titties. All this caring bullshyte we are exposed to daily on the msn's yet behind the scenes, after the take, it is all forgotten about.

We have elderly in this country still with a roof over their head but struggling financially. Every week they wonder how long they have to live and....If they will still live under a roof. That ain't fair. This country needs a fkkkn big shake up. Remove the morons from power that are making these stupid decisions. Screw the world. Look after our own.

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Reply #14 - May 12^th, 2019 at 11:20am

capitosinora wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 10:56am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 10:41am:

Could it be that it's a case of rents taking up more than their unemployment income including rental subsidy? Greed being good and all that....

I guess they can, for example, afford shear accommodation.

Not easy when many of them have mental issues as well... usually those are made worse, not better, buy the stresses of living on the streets..

At one time during my wanderings, I 'shared' a house with three other guys - one was a raging schizo, one a drug addicted young guy from a violent background, the other, the only decent one, a guy with serious brain damage caused by being thrown from the passenger seat of a car.

The schiz would do nasty things behind people's backs all the time, the druggo once threatened me with a knife and got decked, he did that while I was taking the schizo to task over putting burnt food from a saucepan in the jacket of my coat hanging in the wardrobe... that's the kind of thing he used to pull and then he'd play the innocent when anyone from the organisation that ran the show came around...

Needless to say I didn't stay there long... can you imagine that kind of stress at a time when you are watching your life collapse after years of hard work, honesty, loyalty and so forth?

bugger City Hall! I want to see it all go up in flames - but unlike the Abo sheila in Malbun - I've got cause.. and Just Cause it is, too!

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