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Re: How to solve an "active shooter" situation
Reply #30 - May 1st, 2019 at 11:43am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:58pm:
Mortdooley wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:24pm:
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I would have to reach into my right front pocket for the Kimber micro9 that rides there in a pocket holster and shoot from cover if the opportunity presents itself. The laser makes it possible to reach out more accurately. Yes, I actually have that exact model, I practice with it and carry it regularly.

If it is posted as a "gun free zone" I probably won't be there in the first place.



Thank the MSM when these shootings happen, the psychopath will be a household name before sundown. The World will know that he was here and his name will be spoken constantly for days. Dead or alive, he is no longer a nobody, infamy is as good as fame to these monsters. 



You aren't a school child, Mort.  School kids aren't allowed guns IIRC.  How are they going to shoot someone who is shooting them in large numbers?   You didn't find it disturbing that they had to talk about how to hide from a shooter?  Like all gun nuts you think the only answer is "more Guns!"   Personally, I think the answer is less guns, particularly in the hands of lunatics and wannabes.

It is so sad that kids have to be taught how to hide to save their lives...   Roll Eyes


Lunatics and wannabes?

Lunatics are already banned from gun ownership unless they can prove they are no longer a lunatic. In practice, this cannot happen. If you have PTSD you have it for life. You can only reclaim your ability to own a firearm if it was a misdiagnosis.

This covers the whole spectrum of mental illness.

This interestingly doesn't always apply to Australians. There is a documented case of a man who heard voices that were not real getting a gun licence. I have no idea if these voices were Jesus telling him to kill the neighbours cat, or Satan telling him to eat the neighbours children, or if it was an unknown telling him he was worthless, just that he heard voices.

Now what is this claim about wannabes?

My understanding of this term is someone who has aspirations to be like someone they hold in high regard, or someone who wishes they were someone else.

Now someone has a gun. They see themselves as maybe being able to save a life. They even get a Glock because that is what the cops use. This is wannabe/fantasist behavior. Why are these bad people according to you?

Everything I've seen from you is wannabe behavior.

You talk up your military service but counted blankets in ordnance. You would be called a poser by every single military person ever if you tried to assert your military legitimacy.

You also talk about studying military science to an extremely high level. You don't need this type of education. You have no need for it. It is self aggrandising. It is to ingratiate yourself and compare yourself with others who do need it. You are never going to need it for work or similar. It's an extravagance.

You are a wannabe of the first class. There is no mistaking it.

Is this statement against wannabes indicative of self loathing or is it a way to assert your false authenticity through the use of guile?
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Re: How to solve an "active shooter" situation
Reply #31 - May 1st, 2019 at 1:17pm
 
Mortdooley wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 12:37am:
Far too many people feel the need to take some variety of drugs everyday to cope with the stress of modern life apparently. This and many other of the problems in our modern culture are a result of substituting chemicals for learning how to deal with life. It doesn't take much to desensitize someone to the suffering of others and killing is the ultimate desensitization.

Guns are not the problem, an immoral decaying culture is!


Guns owned and used by people who are not trained to use them safely, who are not required to submit themselves to continuous Psychological monitoring and who believe they have a right to use their gun when they desire to supposedly defend themselves and others or more than likely just to settle an argument are the problem, Mort.  Society has changed since 1776.  The firearms have changed.   Time for you to realise that.  Americans believe they should be allowed to own a gun 'cause you have a right to own a gun, rather than a demonstrated need to own a gun.    Roll Eyes


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Re: How to solve an "active shooter" situation
Reply #32 - May 1st, 2019 at 1:45pm
 
AngryBrian Ross wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 1:17pm:
Mortdooley wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 12:37am:
Far too many people feel the need to take some variety of drugs everyday to cope with the stress of modern life apparently. This and many other of the problems in our modern culture are a result of substituting chemicals for learning how to deal with life. It doesn't take much to desensitize someone to the suffering of others and killing is the ultimate desensitization.

Guns are not the problem, an immoral decaying culture is!


Guns owned and used by people who are not trained to use them safely, who are not required to submit themselves to continuous Psychological monitoring and who believe they have a right to use their gun when they desire to supposedly defend themselves and others or more than likely just to settle an argument are the problem, Mort.  Society has changed since 1776.  The firearms have changed.   Time for you to realise that.  Americans believe they should be allowed to own a gun 'cause you have a right to own a gun, rather than a demonstrated need to own a gun.    Roll Eyes




There is no psychological monitoring for Australian gun owners. At all. If you come to the attention of psychological authorities or submit yourself for evaluation, they can advise the police if they think you are not currently capable of being entrusted with a firearm. That's it.

Your statements are not reflective of the Australian population. What you are doing is called projection, where you are projecting your feelings on to others.

You feel that people who desire to have a gun for home defence are likely to use it to settle a grievance.

This is not statistically reflected. Your inference must be coming from how you feel, and then extrapolating that on to society as a whole.
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Re: How to solve an "active shooter" situation
Reply #33 - May 1st, 2019 at 4:45pm
 
Spatchcock wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 11:43am:
Lunatics and wannabes?

Lunatics are already banned from gun ownership unless they can prove they are no longer a lunatic. In practice, this cannot happen. If you have PTSD you have it for life. You can only reclaim your ability to own a firearm if it was a misdiagnosis.

This covers the whole spectrum of mental illness.

This interestingly doesn't always apply to Australians. There is a documented case of a man who heard voices that were not real getting a gun licence. I have no idea if these voices were Jesus telling him to kill the neighbours cat, or Satan telling him to eat the neighbours children, or if it was an unknown telling him he was worthless, just that he heard voices.


It is not about getting a gun license it is about holding a gun license (and still having guns) after developing a mental illness.  There is no requirement for firearms licenses holders to undergo regular psychiatric testing, little chicken.

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Now what is this claim about wannabes?

My understanding of this term is someone who has aspirations to be like someone they hold in high regard, or someone who wishes they were someone else.

Now someone has a gun. They see themselves as maybe being able to save a life. They even get a Glock because that is what the cops use. This is wannabe/fantasist behavior. Why are these bad people according to you?


I was referring to those who are seeking their 15 minutes of fame, little chicken.  You know, the Brenton Tarrant's and the Stephen Paddock's of the world?

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Everything I've seen from you is wannabe behavior.

You talk up your military service but counted blankets in ordnance. You would be called a poser by every single military person ever if you tried to assert your military legitimacy.

You also talk about studying military science to an extremely high level. You don't need this type of education. You have no need for it. It is self aggrandising. It is to ingratiate yourself and compare yourself with others who do need it. You are never going to need it for work or similar. It's an extravagance.

You are a wannabe of the first class. There is no mistaking it.

Is this statement against wannabes indicative of self loathing or is it a way to assert your false authenticity through the use of guile?


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Little chicken you appear to be hurting 'cause of being bested in the Defence forum.   Oh, well, there are winners and there are losers in every situation and it appears you're the loser.  Run along, little chicken, run along back to your little kiddies' playground where you can role in the mud you like so much, all day long.   Roll Eyes


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Re: How to solve an "active shooter" situation
Reply #34 - May 1st, 2019 at 6:19pm
 
Mortdooley wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 12:37am:
Far too many people feel the need to take some variety of drugs everyday to cope with the stress of modern life apparently. This and many other of the problems in our modern culture are a result of substituting chemicals for learning how to deal with life. It doesn't take much to desensitize someone to the suffering of others and killing is the ultimate desensitization.



and still you want to arm those same people  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Re: How to solve an "active shooter" situation
Reply #35 - May 1st, 2019 at 7:00pm
 
lee wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 3:58pm:
deactivate the shooter.


I agree 100%.....In America there is no realistic "one size fits all fail-safe solution" that would resolve all "active shooter" situations.

The more law-abiding citizens that carry firearms could very well place one or more of them in the rare situations when a bad man/woman becomes an 'active shooter', where they can take action, & hopefully deactivate the 'active shooter' with as little injury or loss of life as possible.....

After all in these types of situations, it will most probably take a good guy/gal with a gun to stop a bad guy/gal with a gun. Being ever vigilant, & amply prepared, gives the best chance to overcome an 'active shooter' whenever & wherever they raise their ugly heads.



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Re: How to solve an "active shooter" situation
Reply #36 - May 1st, 2019 at 7:18pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 4:45pm:
Spatchcock wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 11:43am:
Lunatics and wannabes?

Lunatics are already banned from gun ownership unless they can prove they are no longer a lunatic. In practice, this cannot happen. If you have PTSD you have it for life. You can only reclaim your ability to own a firearm if it was a misdiagnosis.

This covers the whole spectrum of mental illness.

This interestingly doesn't always apply to Australians. There is a documented case of a man who heard voices that were not real getting a gun licence. I have no idea if these voices were Jesus telling him to kill the neighbours cat, or Satan telling him to eat the neighbours children, or if it was an unknown telling him he was worthless, just that he heard voices.


It is not about getting a gun license it is about holding a gun license (and still having guns) after developing a mental illness.  There is no requirement for firearms licenses holders to undergo regular psychiatric testing, little chicken.

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Now what is this claim about wannabes?

My understanding of this term is someone who has aspirations to be like someone they hold in high regard, or someone who wishes they were someone else.

Now someone has a gun. They see themselves as maybe being able to save a life. They even get a Glock because that is what the cops use. This is wannabe/fantasist behavior. Why are these bad people according to you?


I was referring to those who are seeking their 15 minutes of fame, little chicken.  You know, the Brenton Tarrant's and the Stephen Paddock's of the world?

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Everything I've seen from you is wannabe behavior.

You talk up your military service but counted blankets in ordnance. You would be called a poser by every single military person ever if you tried to assert your military legitimacy.

You also talk about studying military science to an extremely high level. You don't need this type of education. You have no need for it. It is self aggrandising. It is to ingratiate yourself and compare yourself with others who do need it. You are never going to need it for work or similar. It's an extravagance.

You are a wannabe of the first class. There is no mistaking it.

Is this statement against wannabes indicative of self loathing or is it a way to assert your false authenticity through the use of guile?


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Little chicken you appear to be hurting 'cause of being bested in the Defence forum.   Oh, well, there are winners and there are losers in every situation and it appears you're the loser.  Run along, little chicken, run along back to your little kiddies' playground where you can role in the mud you like so much, all day long.   Roll Eyes




You lose.

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Re: How to solve an "active shooter" situation
Reply #37 - May 1st, 2019 at 7:27pm
 
Spatchcock wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 7:18pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 4:45pm:
Spatchcock wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 11:43am:
Lunatics and wannabes?

Lunatics are already banned from gun ownership unless they can prove they are no longer a lunatic. In practice, this cannot happen. If you have PTSD you have it for life. You can only reclaim your ability to own a firearm if it was a misdiagnosis.

This covers the whole spectrum of mental illness.

This interestingly doesn't always apply to Australians. There is a documented case of a man who heard voices that were not real getting a gun licence. I have no idea if these voices were Jesus telling him to kill the neighbours cat, or Satan telling him to eat the neighbours children, or if it was an unknown telling him he was worthless, just that he heard voices.


It is not about getting a gun license it is about holding a gun license (and still having guns) after developing a mental illness.  There is no requirement for firearms licenses holders to undergo regular psychiatric testing, little chicken.

Quote:
Now what is this claim about wannabes?

My understanding of this term is someone who has aspirations to be like someone they hold in high regard, or someone who wishes they were someone else.

Now someone has a gun. They see themselves as maybe being able to save a life. They even get a Glock because that is what the cops use. This is wannabe/fantasist behavior. Why are these bad people according to you?


I was referring to those who are seeking their 15 minutes of fame, little chicken.  You know, the Brenton Tarrant's and the Stephen Paddock's of the world?

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Everything I've seen from you is wannabe behavior.

You talk up your military service but counted blankets in ordnance. You would be called a poser by every single military person ever if you tried to assert your military legitimacy.

You also talk about studying military science to an extremely high level. You don't need this type of education. You have no need for it. It is self aggrandising. It is to ingratiate yourself and compare yourself with others who do need it. You are never going to need it for work or similar. It's an extravagance.

You are a wannabe of the first class. There is no mistaking it.

Is this statement against wannabes indicative of self loathing or is it a way to assert your false authenticity through the use of guile?


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Little chicken you appear to be hurting 'cause of being bested in the Defence forum.   Oh, well, there are winners and there are losers in every situation and it appears you're the loser.  Run along, little chicken, run along back to your little kiddies' playground where you can role in the mud you like so much, all day long.   Roll Eyes


You lose.

GG


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Nope, no prizes for being second, little chicken.  No Bronze Medals.  Nothing.   Enjoy rolling in your mud in your little kiddies' playground.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #38 - May 1st, 2019 at 7:29pm
 
You win a forum of 10 active sock puppets and three active members.

You also win acclaim as a military poser.

I said you win. Give it a rest.
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Reply #39 - May 1st, 2019 at 7:36pm
 
If you get the job I'm going to uni for political engagement.
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Reply #40 - May 1st, 2019 at 8:23pm
 
Thank You for the Propaganda clip  Roll Eyes
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Reply #41 - May 1st, 2019 at 8:27pm
 
Spatchcock wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 7:29pm:
You win a forum of 10 active sock puppets and three active members.

You also win acclaim as a military poser.

I said you win. Give it a rest.


You're the one who appears unable to follow your own advice, little chicken.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #42 - May 1st, 2019 at 8:28pm
 
Spatchcock wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 7:36pm:
If you get the job I'm going to uni for political engagement.


Nothing wrong with gettin' yerself an edjucation, little chicken.   Cool
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Reply #43 - May 1st, 2019 at 9:09pm
 
Brian you're a military poser.

You are loser by self admission.

You live a lie to shield your fragile emotional state from reality. Your real life is unworthy of appreciation, according to you.

You win, loser.
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Reply #44 - May 1st, 2019 at 11:51pm
 
Spatchcock wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 9:09pm:
Brian you're a military poser.

You are loser by self admission.

You live a lie to shield your fragile emotional state from reality. Your real life is unworthy of appreciation, according to you.

You win, loser.


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Run along, little chicken, run along, back to your little kiddies' playground where your antics are tolerated.   Roll Eyes

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