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Apr 25th, 2019 at 9:30am
 
https://www.facebook.com/NSWLabor/videos/422898111836292/

Fauxmo the Pentecostal flake has failed to rule out death taxs
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Reply #1 - Apr 25th, 2019 at 9:33am
 
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We saw it coming though

didn't we?

Of course

So a new lease of life for creative accountants

Either that or wholesale mutiny, which is a long way overdue

except few have the spirit

and more than most are dobbers by nature


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Reply #2 - Apr 25th, 2019 at 12:08pm
 
"Liberals want death tax"

And yet that is exactly what Labor's CGT amendments will be, once introduced. Once the inherited house is sold the inheritor will have to pay double the amount of CGT.
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Reply #3 - Apr 25th, 2019 at 12:33pm
 
lee wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 12:08pm:
"Liberals want death tax"

And yet that is exactly what Labor's CGT amendments will be, once introduced. Once the inherited house is sold the inheritor will have to pay double the amount of CGT.


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Reply #4 - Apr 25th, 2019 at 1:20pm
 
Aussie wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 12:33pm:
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Oh dear poor Aussie can't figure it out.

It goes like this -

Labor will reduce the CGT discount to 25%.

CGT is payable on the family home when it is disposed of after inheritance.


"If you inherit a dwelling or other property after CGT started on 20 September 1985 and later sell or otherwise dispose of it, capital gains tax may then apply.

Similarly, capital gains tax may apply if the deceased person's legal personal representative sells a property as part of winding up their estate."

https://www.ato.gov.au/General/Property/Inheriting-property/

So as CGT applies to the disposal cutting the exemption increases the CGT payable.

"It gets worse - Labor's proposed change to the capital gains tax (CGT) rules, which would reduce the present discount of 50 per cent to 25 per cent, could be an extra tax on the children of the widows"

"To understand how it works, you need to be aware that death itself does not trigger capital gains tax, it merely passes the liability to the beneficiaries, who will be liable for CGT when they dispose of the asset."

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6088862/how-will-your-capital-gains-be-ta...

In the article it also says what happens to pre-CGT assets v Post-CGT assets.

So it is a Death tax.
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Reply #5 - Apr 25th, 2019 at 1:49pm
 
lee wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 1:20pm:
Aussie wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 12:33pm:
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Oh dear poor Aussie can't figure it out.

It goes like this -

Labor will reduce the CGT discount to 25%.

CGT is payable on the family home when it is disposed of after inheritance.


"If you inherit a dwelling or other property after CGT started on 20 September 1985 and later sell or otherwise dispose of it, capital gains tax may then apply.

Similarly, capital gains tax may apply if the deceased person's legal personal representative sells a property as part of winding up their estate."

https://www.ato.gov.au/General/Property/Inheriting-property/

So as CGT applies to the disposal cutting the exemption increases the CGT payable.

"It gets worse - Labor's proposed change to the capital gains tax (CGT) rules, which would reduce the present discount of 50 per cent to 25 per cent, could be an extra tax on the children of the widows"

"To understand how it works, you need to be aware that death itself does not trigger capital gains tax, it merely passes the liability to the beneficiaries, who will be liable for CGT when they dispose of the asset."

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6088862/how-will-your-capital-gains-be-ta...

In the article it also says what happens to pre-CGT assets v Post-CGT assets.

So it is a Death tax.


So...what is the existing position?  CGT on inherited property, yes?
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Reply #6 - Apr 25th, 2019 at 2:10pm
 
Aussie wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 1:49pm:
So...what is the existing position?  CGT on inherited property, yes?



ooh Aussie wants to defend the upgraded tax grab on widows and orphans. Wink
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Reply #7 - Apr 25th, 2019 at 2:11pm
 
lee wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 2:10pm:
Aussie wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 1:49pm:
So...what is the existing position?  CGT on inherited property, yes?



ooh Aussie wants to defend the upgraded tax grab on widows and orphans. Wink


No.  This was what you were asked:

So...what is the existing position?  CGT on inherited property, yes?


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Reply #8 - Apr 25th, 2019 at 2:14pm
 
Aussie wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 2:11pm:
So...what is the existing position?  CGT on inherited property, yes?



Yes petal at half the proposed rate. A default death tax. And you want to double it.
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Reply #9 - Apr 25th, 2019 at 2:17pm
 
lee wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 2:14pm:
Aussie wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 2:11pm:
So...what is the existing position?  CGT on inherited property, yes?



Yes petal at half the proposed rate. A default death tax. And you want to double it.


What is the existing rate and what is the proposed rate and when does it come into effect?  Are there grandfathering provisions and if so what are they?
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Reply #10 - Apr 25th, 2019 at 2:20pm
 
Aussie wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 2:17pm:
What is the existing rate and what is the proposed rate and when does it come into effect? 



Existing rate 50% exemption

Future rate 25% exemption.

Date of Effect 1/1/2020

Aussie wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 2:17pm:
Are there grandfathering provisions and if so what are they?



yes if you die before implementation date. Die now save your kids.
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Reply #11 - Apr 25th, 2019 at 2:24pm
 
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yes if you die before implementation date. Die now save your kids.


You sure it does not only apply to property acquired after 2020?
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Reply #12 - Apr 25th, 2019 at 2:43pm
 
Aussie wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 2:24pm:
You sure it does not only apply to property acquired after 2020?



If you die after implementation date 1/1/2020, then the property will be acquired by you kids at date of death.
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Reply #13 - Apr 25th, 2019 at 2:59pm
 
lee wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 2:43pm:
Aussie wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 2:24pm:
You sure it does not only apply to property acquired after 2020?



If you die after implementation date 1/1/2020, then the property will be acquired by you kids at date of death.


On property I acquired before 1/1/2020?
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Reply #14 - Apr 25th, 2019 at 3:10pm
 
We're going to have to get used to enormous taxes.
We're basically bankrupt and the 2 major
parties are putting on a brave face.


Australian national Govt. debt

$696 billion.


https://www.australiandebtclock.com.au/
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