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The latest disruptive Sock.
Apr 20th, 2019 at 3:51pm
 
Is Kiwi Dave. 

So who is the puppeteer? I say it is a failed MRB Mod using a well known and notorious tag to infiltrate and confuse.

I posted this is the "OzPol should become more friendly Thread" in Relationships.




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Kiwi Dave wrote Today at 2:00pm:

Good cartoon, Captain Nemo.

I am reminded of a Buddhist (from memory)


When you plant lettuce, if it does not grow well, you don’t blame the lettuce. You look for reasons it is not doing well.


This is best described in the social sciences as “ecological theory”, which looks at the environment a human being is in, rather than their behaviour per se. It’s the old “nature vs nurture” debate.

An interesting topic for a cleaned up “Relationships board”, no?



Hmm.  Nicole has posted at the sewer that she is not this Kiwi Dave, despite the fact (which she will not dispute) that she was the original puppeteer of that muppet sock which caused the ultimate demise of any sense of democracy at the sewer where voting once had integrity.  'Kiwi Dave' set the precedent that voting can be rigged and FD was up to his eyeballs in it.  Down hill it went from there, and I used that precedent, I concede, as FD's Constitution urged everyone to do.

While I am not completely convinced that this Kiwi Dave is not Nicole, the more this Kiwi Dave posts, the more I move away from concluding it is Nicole or even Agnes.

That leaves just one contender who was aware of the history of the sewer and "Kiwi Dave" activities there, one who had bucket loads of tickets on herself about her genius, especially in philosophy and psychology.  If my memory of Board history holds true, this person was once the Mod of the Atheism MRB here, and then more latterly when Vic was doing his clean out of MRBs abandoned by the Mod, The Barnacle got the gig.

Anyone?

Care to 'fess up 'Kiwi Dave?'

See this Thread:

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I've noticed that some of the guests to my sub-forum of late have forgotten their manners. The threads are no longer as interesting as they once were and that is very is disappointing. Now, they're strewn with new post after new post of flaming by trolls of little or no imagination.

As a consequence of this bad behavior, I have some housework to tend to over the next few weeks. I'll be cleaning up my sub forum, removing the meaningless insults and other such posts that do not contribute to either the OP, current tangent or argumentation overall.

Those who notice their posts deleted may restrict their bitchin' n' cryin' to this thread only. I will look forward to hearing from Spot of Borg et el and Soren who seem to think they can bring their little vexation to my sub-forum. I should like to recommend the Feedback sub-forum as being more liberal minded on trolls, as a place to hold your little forum war. My grounds are neutral and more focused.

Thank you.
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Reply #1 - Apr 20th, 2019 at 4:00pm
 
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Hi Aussie.  The reason I visit Relationships occasionally, is curiosity.  It's a world unto itself, to me.  Always lots of aggro.  I've never understood that sub or what it's supposed to be about. It's like a madhouse, like one of those rundown pubs with fights spilling out onto the footpath

Is it supposed to be the location where everyone dumps trash while sane people stick to the other boards?  Do we need a local tip type sub?  Is anything ever resolved or accomplished there?  Seeing it's taking up space anyway, wouldn't it be better if it became somewhere for interesting discussion?

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Reply #2 - Apr 20th, 2019 at 4:08pm
 
PZ547 wrote on Apr 20th, 2019 at 4:00pm:
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Hi Aussie.  The reason I visit Relationships occasionally, is curiosity.  It's a world unto itself, to me.  Always lots of aggro.  I've never understood that sub or what it's supposed to be about. It's like a madhouse, like one of those rundown pubs with fights spilling out onto the footpath

Is it supposed to be the location where everyone dumps trash while sane people stick to the other boards?  Do we need a local tip type sub?  Is anything ever resolved or accomplished there?  Seeing it's taking up space anyway, wouldn't it be better if it became somewhere for interesting discussion?



Well, I am the Mod here, appointed by FD after Agnes abandoned it many years ago for at least a year.  It was dormant.  It is now alive and very successful, but maybe not to everyone's liking.

I am happy that it be used for whatever including the relationships among Members here.  This is where that stuff is best dealt with instead of in other Threads.

That does not mean you, or anyone is precluded from posting whatever you like in some relationship context.  I have never imposed any limit on that.
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Reply #3 - Apr 20th, 2019 at 4:09pm
 
Setanta and Black Orchid, what say ye about a fallen puppeteer using a notorious tag to infiltrate and disrupt?
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Reply #4 - Apr 20th, 2019 at 4:21pm
 
Well that's good to know, Aussie

The main problem I see, and maybe I'm out of line, is ongoing argy-bargy stemming back into the mists of time.  Don't know about anyone else, but I'm not familiar with most of the past members or members of other forums.  It seems to the outside observer (me in this instance) like those madhouse tag-team wrestling venues where old animosities poison too many threads

it's just a forum, one of thousands out there.  No one has the capacity or will to keep tabs on what A said to B six months ago.  Each thread should stand on its own merit, imo.  People who disagree in one thread (forum wide) might be in agreement in another. Life's too short to hoard grievances unless they're important.  And what's important differs from person to person, I realise that, but most posters in the other boards let things go in the interests of flow and the forum generally

It's an opinion board and people's opinions might differ radically, depending on their mood at the time or what they might have learned since their last post

outright stirrers soon make themselves obvious and therefore unpopular.  Maybe we should leave things sort themselves out naturally and post as if for the first time, every time?
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Reply #5 - Apr 20th, 2019 at 4:27pm
 
As I said alphabet numbers, I have never set any limits on the material which can be discussed here, provided it has some link to a relationship and that is always easy to contrive.

Go for your life.  I am not about to stop you, or anyone else (other than those banned people.)
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Reply #6 - Apr 20th, 2019 at 6:23pm
 
Gee, I see 'Kiwi Dave' is here.  Nothing to say or tell us 'Kiwi Dave?'  You wouldn't be the disgraced Mod who abandoned the MRB Atheism and now using the tag of another to be disruptive would you, 'Kiwi Dave?'

What say ye, Setanta and BO?  Will you tell us about any email or IP match across the Forums and internal here?  Or mayhap is that reserved only if you reckon I am involved.

Come on, be consistent.
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Reply #7 - Apr 20th, 2019 at 6:40pm
 
"Kiwi Dave" has now slunk away, as every decent coward does when they are caught out.

Why ought anyone trust you to run a MRB, "Kiwi Dave?" 

1.  You use a tag which you well know is one known to be used by Nicole and if you read at the sewer, she has said she is not this "Kiwi Dave."

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2.  You failed to Mod the Atheism MRB and you were replaced.  You abandoned it.  You are just a contriving schit stirrer.  You used to be better than that sometimes but the dark sinister trait was always there.
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Reply #8 - Apr 20th, 2019 at 6:52pm
 
Aussie wrote on Apr 20th, 2019 at 6:23pm:
Gee, I see 'Kiwi Dave' is here.  Nothing to say or tell us 'Kiwi Dave?'  You wouldn't be the disgraced Mod who abandoned the MRB Atheism and now using the tag of another to be disruptive would you, 'Kiwi Dave?'

What say ye, Setanta and BO?  Will you tell us about any email or IP match across the Forums and internal here?  Or mayhap is that reserved only if you reckon I am involved.

Come on, be consistent.


Using your mod powers to spy on who is here reading and addressing them? I believe you told me that was unethical or something when I addressed Mothra when she was reading, yes? Now what do we call someone who says do as I say not do as I do?

Aussie wrote on Apr 20th, 2019 at 4:09pm:
Setanta and Black Orchid, what say ye about a fallen puppeteer using a notorious tag to infiltrate and disrupt?


No idea what you are on about and I'd prefer it if you left me out of your decades long dramas.
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Using your mod powers to spy on who is here reading and addressing them? I believe you told me that was unethical or something when I addressed Mothra when she was reading, yes? Now what do we call someone who says do as I say not do as I do?


Not at all Setanta.  I saw she was on line generally...just like we all can.




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No idea what you are on about and I'd prefer it if you left me out of your decades long dramas.


Perhaps you ought to acknowledge that I know what goes on within these incestuous Boards.

Didn't you get all angsty when someone registered at the sewer using the tag Setanta, and then compare notes about IPs and email addresses with Black Orchid?

This is the same Setanta.  The tag "Kiwi Dave" 'belongs' (as you asserted Setanta belonged to you) to Nicole and she has posted at the sewer that this 'Kiwi Dave' is not her.

So, please reveal the outcome of your IP and email addy inquiries across two Forums just like you did (in cahoots with BO) when 'Setanta' popped up at the sewer.  You and BO thought you had nailed me, and went to town here against me.

Goose/gander.

Mate, fact is, while you think you are, you are not very good at this stuff.
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Aussie wrote on Apr 20th, 2019 at 7:10pm:
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Using your mod powers to spy on who is here reading and addressing them? I believe you told me that was unethical or something when I addressed Mothra when she was reading, yes? Now what do we call someone who says do as I say not do as I do?


Not at all Setanta.  I saw she was on line generally...just like we all can.


I thought you might pull that one but why if they were not reading here? It would be pointless as they would not see your post. You then post that they slink away. How could they slink away if they had not been here reading your posts? It would make no sense at all. You were addressing them here because you saw them reading here.

What do we call someone that says do as I say, not as I do?

Were you posting as Ivan Itch while you were suspended?
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Reply #11 - Apr 20th, 2019 at 7:21pm
 
No Numpty.  (Oh...I see.  A ninja edit.)

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I thought you might pull that one but why if they were not reading here? It would be pointless as they would not see your post. You then post that they slink away. How could they slink away if they had not been here reading your posts? It would make no sense at all. You were addressing them here because you saw them reading here.

What do we call someone that says do as I say, not as I do?


Everyone can see who is on line and in what order.  Kiwi Dave was dropping down that order and then....was not seen as on line.

Simple as that.

I see that pissant issue is more interesting to you than the far more relevant matter of your lack of consistency and obvious collusion with BO on the sewer Setanta fraud incident.....and this Kiwi Dave facsimile.

Goose/gander.
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Reply #12 - Apr 20th, 2019 at 7:25pm
 
Aussie wrote on Apr 20th, 2019 at 7:21pm:
No Numpty.

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I thought you might pull that one but why if they were not reading here? It would be pointless as they would not see your post. You then post that they slink away. How could they slink away if they had not been here reading your posts? It would make no sense at all. You were addressing them here because you saw them reading here.

What do we call someone that says do as I say, not as I do?


Everyone can see who is on line and in what order.  Kiwi Dave was dropping down that order and then....was not seen as on line.

Simple as that.

I see that pissant issue is more interesting to you than the far more relevant matter of your lack of consistency and obvious collusion with BO on the sewer Setanta fraud incident.....and this Kiwi Dave facsimile.

Goose/gander.


I don't believe you. You knew they were in here reading, there is no reason to post what you did if they were just online.

Nice deflection and ignore of the question of whether you posted as Ivan while you were suspended. I know why too. Not something you can answer honestly without asking to be suspended. How about I won't go gather the evidence if you come clean and I won't suspend you, though I cannot speak for anyone else. Are you man enough?
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Reply #13 - Apr 20th, 2019 at 7:29pm
 
Why ask me if I posted when I was banned?  Do you really reckon I am that stupid when I know that Vic and to a lesser extent you would be salivating at the prospect?

So, Setanta.  Let's have some integrity and consistency from you.  What have you established in cahoots with BO about the email addy and IP of this obvious fraud, Kiwi Dave which Nicole (the 'owner' of the tag) dismisses as being her.

Goose/gander.
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Reply #14 - Apr 20th, 2019 at 7:35pm
 
Aussie wrote on Apr 20th, 2019 at 7:29pm:
Why ask me if I posted when I was banned?  Do you really reckon I am that stupid when I know that Vic and to a lesser extent you would be salivating at the prospect?

So, Setanta.  Let's have some integrity and consistency from you.  What have you established in cahoots with BO about the email addy and IP of this obvious fraud, Kiwi Dave which Nicole (the 'owner' of the tag) dismisses as being her.

Goose/gander.


Did you post as Ivan Itch while suspended?
A simple yes or no will suffice. I'm just asking you to be honest. Vic may or may not read this.

If I don't get that I may just have to search for all posts by Ivan and compare them to your suspension and refer it to Vic if I find you did.
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