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Re: Grizzly Labor ATTACKING Women retirees
Reply #30 - Mar 25th, 2019 at 7:50pm
 
crocodile wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 7:14pm:
Dnarever wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 6:54pm:
crocodile wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 2:38pm:
Dnarever wrote on Mar 24th, 2019 at 6:08pm:
For those aged 40 to 49, the impact on women is the most disproportionate

I particularly like this line, it applies to retired Women between 40 and 49 years of age ?

WTF !

It didn't say they were retired. Only the author of the article referred to Shorten's nonsense as a "retiree's tax".



The title is about women retirees being worse off yet in the story itself the women worse off are in the age group 40 to 49.

While it does not specifically say that they are retired there is no relevance if they aren't and in fact it damages the claim.

It is saying that un-retired women are worse off if your claim is correct. The exact opposite to the title.


Read the title again.

WOMEN HARDEST HIT BY LABOR'S RETIREES TAX

Says nothing about the women being retired.


Good so they are working and getting this rort from my taxes....This bullshit must be stopped!!!

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Re: Grizzly Labor ATTACKING Women retirees
Reply #31 - Mar 25th, 2019 at 8:09pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 7:50pm:
crocodile wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 7:14pm:
Dnarever wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 6:54pm:
crocodile wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 2:38pm:
Dnarever wrote on Mar 24th, 2019 at 6:08pm:
For those aged 40 to 49, the impact on women is the most disproportionate

I particularly like this line, it applies to retired Women between 40 and 49 years of age ?

WTF !

It didn't say they were retired. Only the author of the article referred to Shorten's nonsense as a "retiree's tax".



The title is about women retirees being worse off yet in the story itself the women worse off are in the age group 40 to 49.

While it does not specifically say that they are retired there is no relevance if they aren't and in fact it damages the claim.

It is saying that un-retired women are worse off if your claim is correct. The exact opposite to the title.


Read the title again.

WOMEN HARDEST HIT BY LABOR'S RETIREES TAX

Says nothing about the women being retired.


Good so they are working and getting this rort from my taxes....This bullshit must be stopped!!!

Angry Angry Angry

What rort. It's a simple refund for overpaid tax that everybody else receives.
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Re: Grizzly Labor ATTACKING Women retirees
Reply #32 - Mar 25th, 2019 at 9:12pm
 
And the tiresome Lefties just keep on trying to deny it all.

And this should be right down the Socialists' alley - massive rorting of WELFARE uncovered and featured in TV news.

If Labor gets in this will become the normal behavior just like before. Especially for the illegal invaders Labor will bring in on the leaky boats. You know just like before.



Wealthy welfare cheats forced to repay more than $40 million, Government says
AM By political reporter Dan Conifer Updated 16 Mar 2018, 12:39am

...
People stand outside a Centrelink office. PHOTO: The fraudsters were unable to name the source of their money, the Government said. (AAP: Dan Peled)

RELATED STORY: Centrelink wait times jump as millions of calls go unanswered
RELATED STORY: Teenage parents, young students relying less on welfare, new data shows
RELATED STORY: Porter defends Centrelink amid debt recovery row

More than 1,000 rich welfare cheats have been forced to repay over $40 million to taxpayers under a recent crackdown, the Federal Government says.

Amount recouped by state:
ACT: $304,621
NSW: $15,578,530
NT: $18,790
QLD: $2,462,520
SA: $1,129,667
TAS: $672,245
VIC: $21,069,394
WA: $2,192,260


Centrelink has been working with Australia's financial intelligence agency to identify welfare recipients with large amounts of unexplained wealth.

Using data-matching technology, suspicious bank transactions can be instantly cross-checked against Human Services Department records.

Centrelink has recouped $43.4 million since July 2015, with more than one third of that amount being returned this financial year.

Human Services Minister Michael Keenan said "there's a lot of money that can be saved" by targeting wealthy rorters.

"These people have been defrauding the system in a very substantial way — that's on average $43,000 per individual," Mr Keenan said.

"We don't accept that sort of behaviour."


The Government said the fraudsters were unable to name the source of the large sums, or why they did not declare the money to Centrelink.

One New South Wales disability support pensioner did not declare any income over four years.

But it was revealed $700,000 had been deposited into their bank accounts during the same period.

They were forced to repay $160,000 in welfare.

At least one of the cheats was criminally prosecuted.

Banks are required to report suspicious transactions to the Australian Transaction Reports Analysis Centre (AUSTRAC).

"What we're doing now is using a very high-tech approach to identify those people," Mr Keenan said.

"We're going to continue to work with AUSTRAC to do that.

"If anyone is doing the wrong thing, we will find them, and this shows we have the capability to do that."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-16/centrelink-rorters-forced-to-replay-over-...
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Re: Grizzly Labor ATTACKING Women retirees
Reply #33 - Mar 25th, 2019 at 9:18pm
 
crocodile wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 8:09pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 7:50pm:
crocodile wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 7:14pm:
Dnarever wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 6:54pm:
crocodile wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 2:38pm:
Dnarever wrote on Mar 24th, 2019 at 6:08pm:
For those aged 40 to 49, the impact on women is the most disproportionate

I particularly like this line, it applies to retired Women between 40 and 49 years of age ?

WTF !

It didn't say they were retired. Only the author of the article referred to Shorten's nonsense as a "retiree's tax".



The title is about women retirees being worse off yet in the story itself the women worse off are in the age group 40 to 49.

While it does not specifically say that they are retired there is no relevance if they aren't and in fact it damages the claim.

It is saying that un-retired women are worse off if your claim is correct. The exact opposite to the title.


Read the title again.

WOMEN HARDEST HIT BY LABOR'S RETIREES TAX

Says nothing about the women being retired.


Good so they are working and getting this rort from my taxes....This bullshit must be stopped!!!

Angry Angry Angry

What rort. It's a simple refund for overpaid tax that everybody else receives.


Only in Australia mate....I know why it was introduced, to prevent double taxation which is why some other countries allow these credits to reduce their tax liability....This taxpayer hand out (Australia only) is provided to people who pay no tax and are given a bonus on top of their dividend paid by the taxpayer (Australia only)....As far as I am concerned it is unsustainable, unproductive and costs more than it is worth to the economy....It should be axed as soon as possible IMO!!!

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Re: Grizzly Labor ATTACKING Women retirees
Reply #34 - Mar 25th, 2019 at 9:30pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 9:18pm:
crocodile wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 8:09pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 7:50pm:
crocodile wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 7:14pm:
Dnarever wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 6:54pm:
crocodile wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 2:38pm:
Dnarever wrote on Mar 24th, 2019 at 6:08pm:
For those aged 40 to 49, the impact on women is the most disproportionate

I particularly like this line, it applies to retired Women between 40 and 49 years of age ?

WTF !

It didn't say they were retired. Only the author of the article referred to Shorten's nonsense as a "retiree's tax".



The title is about women retirees being worse off yet in the story itself the women worse off are in the age group 40 to 49.

While it does not specifically say that they are retired there is no relevance if they aren't and in fact it damages the claim.

It is saying that un-retired women are worse off if your claim is correct. The exact opposite to the title.


Read the title again.

WOMEN HARDEST HIT BY LABOR'S RETIREES TAX

Says nothing about the women being retired.


Good so they are working and getting this rort from my taxes....This bullshit must be stopped!!!

Angry Angry Angry

What rort. It's a simple refund for overpaid tax that everybody else receives.


Only in Australia mate....I know why it was introduced, to prevent double taxation which is why some other countries allow these credits to reduce their tax liability....This taxpayer hand out (Australia only) is provided to people who pay no tax and are given a bonus on top of their dividend paid by the taxpayer (Australia only)....As far as I am concerned it is unsustainable, unproductive and costs more than it is worth to the economy....It should be axed as soon as possible IMO!!!

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That's not correct. The tax has been withheld by the company. The dividends are paid post tax. They have indeed already paid tax at the rate of 30%.
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Re: Grizzly Labor ATTACKING Women retirees
Reply #35 - Mar 25th, 2019 at 9:41pm
 
crocodile wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 9:30pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 9:18pm:
crocodile wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 8:09pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 7:50pm:
crocodile wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 7:14pm:
Dnarever wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 6:54pm:
crocodile wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 2:38pm:
Dnarever wrote on Mar 24th, 2019 at 6:08pm:
For those aged 40 to 49, the impact on women is the most disproportionate

I particularly like this line, it applies to retired Women between 40 and 49 years of age ?

WTF !

It didn't say they were retired. Only the author of the article referred to Shorten's nonsense as a "retiree's tax".



The title is about women retirees being worse off yet in the story itself the women worse off are in the age group 40 to 49.

While it does not specifically say that they are retired there is no relevance if they aren't and in fact it damages the claim.

It is saying that un-retired women are worse off if your claim is correct. The exact opposite to the title.


Read the title again.

WOMEN HARDEST HIT BY LABOR'S RETIREES TAX

Says nothing about the women being retired.


Good so they are working and getting this rort from my taxes....This bullshit must be stopped!!!

Angry Angry Angry

What rort. It's a simple refund for overpaid tax that everybody else receives.


Only in Australia mate....I know why it was introduced, to prevent double taxation which is why some other countries allow these credits to reduce their tax liability....This taxpayer hand out (Australia only) is provided to people who pay no tax and are given a bonus on top of their dividend paid by the taxpayer (Australia only)....As far as I am concerned it is unsustainable, unproductive and costs more than it is worth to the economy....It should be axed as soon as possible IMO!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


That's not correct. The tax has been withheld by the company. The dividends are paid post tax. They have indeed already paid tax at the rate of 30%.


I never said otherwise....What I said is Australia is the ONLY country that allows this rort....It is unsustainable, unproductive and costs more than it is worth to the economy....The changes will also not affect anyone on a pension or part pension....Find another way to earn income without costing taxpayers a motza!!!

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Re: Grizzly Labor ATTACKING Women retirees
Reply #36 - Mar 25th, 2019 at 10:01pm
 
Croc your great wisdom is lost on these Lefties who are deaf to any FACTS and in any case it is doubtful if they could understand them even if they did listen.

Unless there was a GetUp! epistle explaining them.

The company pays tax on the dividends proposed to be franked.

Then these franked dividends that the company has already paid tax on are paid to investors as taxable income.

The investors are essentially part of the company which is being managed on their behalf.

So it is perfectly fair that the govt doesn't claim tax TWICE on this amount.

If the Labor thieving fiends get in then companies will simply stop franked dividends and only pay increased ordinary dividends instead.

I am sure croc can correct any errors in this.
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Re: Grizzly Labor ATTACKING Women retirees
Reply #37 - Mar 25th, 2019 at 10:43pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 9:41pm:
crocodile wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 9:30pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 9:18pm:
crocodile wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 8:09pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 7:50pm:
crocodile wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 7:14pm:
Dnarever wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 6:54pm:
crocodile wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 2:38pm:
Dnarever wrote on Mar 24th, 2019 at 6:08pm:
For those aged 40 to 49, the impact on women is the most disproportionate

I particularly like this line, it applies to retired Women between 40 and 49 years of age ?

WTF !

It didn't say they were retired. Only the author of the article referred to Shorten's nonsense as a "retiree's tax".



The title is about women retirees being worse off yet in the story itself the women worse off are in the age group 40 to 49.

While it does not specifically say that they are retired there is no relevance if they aren't and in fact it damages the claim.

It is saying that un-retired women are worse off if your claim is correct. The exact opposite to the title.


Read the title again.

WOMEN HARDEST HIT BY LABOR'S RETIREES TAX

Says nothing about the women being retired.


Good so they are working and getting this rort from my taxes....This bullshit must be stopped!!!

Angry Angry Angry

What rort. It's a simple refund for overpaid tax that everybody else receives.


Only in Australia mate....I know why it was introduced, to prevent double taxation which is why some other countries allow these credits to reduce their tax liability....This taxpayer hand out (Australia only) is provided to people who pay no tax and are given a bonus on top of their dividend paid by the taxpayer (Australia only)....As far as I am concerned it is unsustainable, unproductive and costs more than it is worth to the economy....It should be axed as soon as possible IMO!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


That's not correct. The tax has been withheld by the company. The dividends are paid post tax. They have indeed already paid tax at the rate of 30%.


I never said otherwise....What I said is Australia is the ONLY country that allows this rort....It is unsustainable, unproductive and costs more than it is worth to the economy....The changes will also not affect anyone on a pension or part pension....Find another way to earn income without costing taxpayers a motza!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Refunding tax that should never have been paid is hardly a rort. Other nations have their own arrangements for the treatment of dividend income. just because they don't handle it in the same fashion as us does not invalidate it. Many countries have lower corporate tax rates. Others, unlike us, do not tax dividends at the marginal personal income tax rate. Others still have zero tax on dividends up to a threshold level. You can't compare apples with dog's balls.

No other income source is treated in this proposed way and even then only in special cases where the beneficiary is under the tax free threshold. If there's any rort it is Bullshit Bill's money grab.
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