Australian Politics Forum - NZ mosque massacre, ...Brenton Tarrant. Why?

polite_gandalf

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 20023
Canberra
Gender: male

Re: NZ mosque massacre, ...Brenton Tarrant. Why?
Reply #15 - Mar 21^st, 2019 at 11:11am

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 20^th, 2019 at 2:55pm:

BigP wrote on Mar 20^th, 2019 at 2:51pm:

I see hes fired his defense and plans to do the job himself, This boy is on a mission Cool

What could any defense team do for him?

Probably council him to not rant and rave about his nazi beliefs. Or worse, insist on a not-guilty plea based on mental impairment.

Back to top

A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
Quote:

Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

IP Logged

greggerypeccary

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 131469
Gender: male

Re: NZ mosque massacre, ...xxxxxxx. Why?
Reply #16 - Mar 21^st, 2019 at 11:40am

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 21^st, 2019 at 11:11am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 20^th, 2019 at 2:55pm:

BigP wrote on Mar 20^th, 2019 at 2:51pm:

I see hes fired his defense and plans to do the job himself, This boy is on a mission Cool

What could any defense team do for him?

Probably council him to not rant and rave about his nazi beliefs. Or worse, insist on a not-guilty plea based on mental impairment.

Lawyer or no lawyer, he's never going to be released.

There's nothing any lawyer could do to prevent him from spending the rest of his life locked up.

Back to top

IP Logged

Bobby.

Gold Member

Online

Australian Politics

Posts: 95258
Melbourne
Gender: male

Re: NZ mosque massacre, ...xxxxxxx. Why?
Reply #17 - Mar 21^st, 2019 at 11:47am

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2019 at 11:40am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 21^st, 2019 at 11:11am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 20^th, 2019 at 2:55pm:

BigP wrote on Mar 20^th, 2019 at 2:51pm:

I see hes fired his defense and plans to do the job himself, This boy is on a mission Cool

What could any defense team do for him?

Probably council him to not rant and rave about his nazi beliefs. Or worse, insist on a not-guilty plea based on mental impairment.

Lawyer or no lawyer, he's never going to be released.

There's nothing any lawyer could do to prevent him from spending the rest of his life locked up.

He could be found not guilty
by reason of insanity.

Back to top

IP Logged

Sir Spot of Borg

Gold Member

Offline

WE ARE BORG

Posts: 26460
Australia

Re: NZ mosque massacre, ...xxxxxxx. Why?
Reply #18 - Mar 21^st, 2019 at 11:48am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 21^st, 2019 at 11:47am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2019 at 11:40am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 21^st, 2019 at 11:11am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 20^th, 2019 at 2:55pm:

BigP wrote on Mar 20^th, 2019 at 2:51pm:

I see hes fired his defense and plans to do the job himself, This boy is on a mission Cool

What could any defense team do for him?

Probably council him to not rant and rave about his nazi beliefs. Or worse, insist on a not-guilty plea based on mental impairment.

Lawyer or no lawyer, he's never going to be released.

There's nothing any lawyer could do to prevent him from spending the rest of his life locked up.

He could be found not guilty
by reason of insanity.

He would still be locked up

Spot

Back to top

Whaaaaaah!
I'm a
Moron!

- edited by some unethical admin - you think its funny? - its a slippery slope

IP Logged

greggerypeccary

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 131469
Gender: male

Re: NZ mosque massacre, ...xxxxxxx. Why?
Reply #19 - Mar 21^st, 2019 at 11:52am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 21^st, 2019 at 11:47am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2019 at 11:40am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 21^st, 2019 at 11:11am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 20^th, 2019 at 2:55pm:

BigP wrote on Mar 20^th, 2019 at 2:51pm:

I see hes fired his defense and plans to do the job himself, This boy is on a mission Cool

What could any defense team do for him?

Probably council him to not rant and rave about his nazi beliefs. Or worse, insist on a not-guilty plea based on mental impairment.

Lawyer or no lawyer, he's never going to be released.

There's nothing any lawyer could do to prevent him from spending the rest of his life locked up.

He could be found not guilty
by reason of insanity.

And left to walk free?

The judge will say, "Okay, your lawyer and his/her team of medical experts has demonstrated to the court that you were insane when you murdered 50 people, so you are now free to go. Guards: please release the prisoner"?

Is that how it will go down?

Back to top

IP Logged

greggerypeccary

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 131469
Gender: male

Re: NZ mosque massacre, ...xxxxxxx. Why?
Reply #20 - Mar 21^st, 2019 at 11:55am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 21^st, 2019 at 11:48am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 21^st, 2019 at 11:47am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2019 at 11:40am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 21^st, 2019 at 11:11am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 20^th, 2019 at 2:55pm:

BigP wrote on Mar 20^th, 2019 at 2:51pm:

I see hes fired his defense and plans to do the job himself, This boy is on a mission Cool

What could any defense team do for him?

Probably council him to not rant and rave about his nazi beliefs. Or worse, insist on a not-guilty plea based on mental impairment.

Lawyer or no lawyer, he's never going to be released.

There's nothing any lawyer could do to prevent him from spending the rest of his life locked up.

He could be found not guilty
by reason of insanity.

He would still be locked up

Spot

Of course he would.

As I said, there's nothing any lawyer could do to prevent him from spending the rest of his life locked up.

"In Australia and elsewhere, an accused found to be insane is exposed to special court powers of disposal.

"If an individual is not criminally responsible, he or she isn’t free to walk away as if acquitted.

"Detention in a secure psychiatric unit in a prison can be just as long – or longer – than any prison term.

"Treatment rather than punishment is not a “get out of jail” card."

How the insanity defence against a murder charge works

He has no need for a lawyer.

Back to top

IP Logged

Bobby.

Gold Member

Online

Australian Politics

Posts: 95258
Melbourne
Gender: male

Re: NZ mosque massacre, ...xxxxxxx. Why?
Reply #21 - Mar 21^st, 2019 at 12:19pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2019 at 11:55am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 21^st, 2019 at 11:48am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 21^st, 2019 at 11:47am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2019 at 11:40am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 21^st, 2019 at 11:11am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 20^th, 2019 at 2:55pm:

BigP wrote on Mar 20^th, 2019 at 2:51pm:

I see hes fired his defense and plans to do the job himself, This boy is on a mission Cool

What could any defense team do for him?

Probably council him to not rant and rave about his nazi beliefs. Or worse, insist on a not-guilty plea based on mental impairment.

Lawyer or no lawyer, he's never going to be released.

There's nothing any lawyer could do to prevent him from spending the rest of his life locked up.

He could be found not guilty
by reason of insanity.

He would still be locked up

Spot

Of course he would.

As I said, there's nothing any lawyer could do to prevent him from spending the rest of his life locked up.

"In Australia and elsewhere, an accused found to be insane is exposed to special court powers of disposal.

"If an individual is not criminally responsible, he or she isn’t free to walk away as if acquitted.

"Detention in a secure psychiatric unit in a prison can be just as long – or longer – than any prison term.

"Treatment rather than punishment is not a “get out of jail” card."

How the insanity defence against a murder charge works

He has no need for a lawyer.

But he could get out in 20 years if they
consider that he's sane.

Back to top

IP Logged

greggerypeccary

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 131469
Gender: male

Re: NZ mosque massacre, ...xxxxxxx. Why?
Reply #22 - Mar 21^st, 2019 at 12:27pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 21^st, 2019 at 12:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2019 at 11:55am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 21^st, 2019 at 11:48am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 21^st, 2019 at 11:47am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2019 at 11:40am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 21^st, 2019 at 11:11am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 20^th, 2019 at 2:55pm:

BigP wrote on Mar 20^th, 2019 at 2:51pm:

I see hes fired his defense and plans to do the job himself, This boy is on a mission Cool

What could any defense team do for him?

Probably council him to not rant and rave about his nazi beliefs. Or worse, insist on a not-guilty plea based on mental impairment.

Lawyer or no lawyer, he's never going to be released.

There's nothing any lawyer could do to prevent him from spending the rest of his life locked up.

He could be found not guilty
by reason of insanity.

He would still be locked up

Spot

Of course he would.

As I said, there's nothing any lawyer could do to prevent him from spending the rest of his life locked up.

"In Australia and elsewhere, an accused found to be insane is exposed to special court powers of disposal.

"If an individual is not criminally responsible, he or she isn’t free to walk away as if acquitted.

"Detention in a secure psychiatric unit in a prison can be just as long – or longer – than any prison term.

"Treatment rather than punishment is not a “get out of jail” card."

How the insanity defence against a murder charge works

He has no need for a lawyer.

But he could get out in 20 years if they
consider that he's sane.

"Well, Mr XXXX, you've been a model prisoner during your time in the psychiatric unit, and you appear to have regained your sanity.

"I think we can just forget about that little incident where you murdered 50 people - the worst terrorist attack our country has ever seen - and release you back into society.

"Off you go".

Back to top

IP Logged

greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 131469 Gender:	Re: NZ mosque massacre, ...Brenton Tarrant. Why? Reply #23 - Mar 21^st, 2019 at 1:03pm Well done "New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has announced a plan to ban military-style semi-automatic weapons and assault rifles in the wake of a terrorist attack that killed 50 people in Christchurch."
Back to top	IP Logged

greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 131469 Gender:	Re: NZ mosque massacre, ...Brenton Tarrant. Why? Reply #24 - Mar 21^st, 2019 at 1:15pm "In short, every semi-automatic weapon used in the terrorist attack on Friday will be banned in this country," she said.
Back to top	IP Logged

Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 13817 In your happy place Gender:	Re: NZ mosque massacre, ...Brenton Tarrant. Why? Reply #25 - Mar 21^st, 2019 at 1:16pm Why? He has the same Muslim-hate state of mind as Yadda and his Ozpolitic ilk. The only difference between the shooter and Yadda and his ilk is that Yadda and his ilk don't have a gun.
Back to top	Please don't thank me. Effusive fawning and obeisance of disciples, mendicants, and foot-kissers embarrass me. IP Logged

greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 131469 Gender:	Re: NZ mosque massacre, ...Brenton Tarrant. Why? Reply #26 - Mar 21^st, 2019 at 1:18pm Laugh till you cry wrote on Mar 21^st, 2019 at 1:16pm: Why? He has the same Muslim-hate state of mind as Yadda and his Ozpolitic ilk. The only difference between the shooter and Yadda and his ilk is that Yadda and his ilk don't have a gun. Well, we hope not anyway.
Back to top	IP Logged

Aussie

Gold Member

Offline

OzPolitic

Posts: 37678
Gender: male

Re: NZ mosque massacre, ...Brenton Tarrant. Why?
Reply #27 - Mar 21^st, 2019 at 1:36pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 20^th, 2019 at 3:49pm:

BigP wrote on Mar 20^th, 2019 at 3:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 20^th, 2019 at 2:55pm:

BigP wrote on Mar 20^th, 2019 at 2:51pm:

I see hes fired his defense and plans to do the job himself, This boy is on a mission Cool

What could any defense team do for him?

Its not like its going to cost him to have one, But I get the feeling his motivation is to drag it out and make a circus of it , Lets see how Jacinda Aturd deals with this one

It won't cost him, but what practical purpose would they serve?

And yes, he wants to use the courtroom to push his agenda.

They'll shut him down though.

The Court must allow him a voice. Nothing can be done about that. But....something can be done about the schmedia publishing that voice. I am not in favour of that however....let the prick expose himself completely. Why hide him and his bullshit from view?

I'm still arguing with myself about watching that video I've been offered.

Back to top

IP Logged

BigP

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 1924
West Auckland
Gender: male

Re: NZ mosque massacre, ...Brenton Tarrant. Why?
Reply #28 - Mar 21^st, 2019 at 2:18pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 21^st, 2019 at 1:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 20^th, 2019 at 3:49pm:

BigP wrote on Mar 20^th, 2019 at 3:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 20^th, 2019 at 2:55pm:

BigP wrote on Mar 20^th, 2019 at 2:51pm:

I see hes fired his defense and plans to do the job himself, This boy is on a mission Cool

What could any defense team do for him?

Its not like its going to cost him to have one, But I get the feeling his motivation is to drag it out and make a circus of it , Lets see how Jacinda Aturd deals with this one

It won't cost him, but what practical purpose would they serve?

And yes, he wants to use the courtroom to push his agenda.

They'll shut him down though.

The Court must allow him a voice. Nothing can be done about that. But....something can be done about the schmedia publishing that voice. I am not in favour of that however....let the prick expose himself completely. Why hide him and his bullshit from view?

I'm still arguing with myself about watching that video I've been offered.

Aussie It has a very surreal quality to it, I can see how some peeps think parts of it are fake, Sometimes life imitates art I guess ,,

Back to top

IP Logged

cods

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 88048

Re: NZ mosque massacre, ...xxxxxxx. Why?
Reply #29 - Mar 21^st, 2019 at 2:26pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 21^st, 2019 at 11:47am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2019 at 11:40am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 21^st, 2019 at 11:11am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 20^th, 2019 at 2:55pm:

BigP wrote on Mar 20^th, 2019 at 2:51pm:

I see hes fired his defense and plans to do the job himself, This boy is on a mission Cool

What could any defense team do for him?

Probably council him to not rant and rave about his nazi beliefs. Or worse, insist on a not-guilty plea based on mental impairment.

Lawyer or no lawyer, he's never going to be released.

There's nothing any lawyer could do to prevent him from spending the rest of his life locked up.

He could be found not guilty
by reason of insanity.

he cant be found NOT guilty.....because he was insane at the time...this has been premeditated he bought 5 guns...he boasted of his intentions made it loud and clear..... how can he plead insanity?....

we may even find out why he travelled from Dunedin where he lived to CHristchurch?....

he has murdered 50 people brought terror into many lives....he can never be released....

Back to top

IP Logged