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philperth2010 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19617 Perth Gender:	Re: Only Aboriginals can paint dots and circles? Reply #60 - Mar 19^th, 2019 at 11:30pm There is nothing wrong with Aboriginal people wanting to protect their culture and identity....Why do people have a problem with people defending what belongs to them??? The aim of art is to represent not the outward appearance of things, but their inward significance. Aristotle (384 BC - 322 BC)
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Only Aboriginals can paint dots and circles? Reply #61 - Mar 20^th, 2019 at 8:12am does anyone think Namatjira should have been told not to paint landscapes?......art is what it is..unless it is an amazing copy of an original.... share the gift....every good artist has a signature.. anyone making FAKES and selling them as originals is committing a crime...
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Reply #62 - Mar 20^th, 2019 at 8:29am

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 19^th, 2019 at 11:30pm:

There is nothing wrong with Aboriginal people wanting to protect their culture and identity....Why do people have a problem with people defending what belongs to them???

Huh

The aim of art is to represent not the outward appearance of things, but their inward significance.
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If someone is directly ripping off and passing off their work as someone else's, then I have huge problems with that, but you can't hope to enter the international art scene and want your themes to stay exclusive.

Culture, art, science and music has been mixing and evolving since year dot. Just as long as the works are clearly marked Aboriginal style and not passing them off as painted by Aboriginals, then there can be no issue.

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Reply #63 - Mar 20^th, 2019 at 10:35am

Gordon wrote on Mar 20^th, 2019 at 8:29am:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 19^th, 2019 at 11:30pm:

There is nothing wrong with Aboriginal people wanting to protect their culture and identity....Why do people have a problem with people defending what belongs to them???

Huh

The aim of art is to represent not the outward appearance of things, but their inward significance.
Aristotle (384 BC - 322 BC)

If someone is directly ripping off and passing off their work as someone else's, then I have huge problems with that, but you can't hope to enter the international art scene and want your themes to stay exclusive.

Culture, art, science and music has been mixing and evolving since year dot. Just as long as the works are clearly marked Aboriginal style and not passing them off as painted by Aboriginals, then there can be no issue.

So Aboriginal people are not allowed to defend their culture when it is exploited....The issue is being conflated by you right wing wankers so you can take another shot at Aboriginal people for having an opinion....The artist apologised and the Aboriginal people moved on....It has SFA too do with you!!!

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Re: Only Aboriginals can paint dots and circles?
Reply #64 - Mar 20^th, 2019 at 10:49am

Gordon wrote on Mar 20^th, 2019 at 8:29am:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 19^th, 2019 at 11:30pm:

There is nothing wrong with Aboriginal people wanting to protect their culture and identity....Why do people have a problem with people defending what belongs to them???

Huh

The aim of art is to represent not the outward appearance of things, but their inward significance.
Aristotle (384 BC - 322 BC)

If someone is directly ripping off and passing off their work as someone else's, then I have huge problems with that, but you can't hope to enter the international art scene and want your themes to stay exclusive.

Culture, art, science and music has been mixing and evolving since year dot. Just as long as the works are clearly marked Aboriginal style and not passing them off as painted by Aboriginals, then there can be no issue.

a tree is a tree no matter who paints it gordy...

I am thinking Aboriginals or some of them are being a bit precious...sad really.. I do believe they have a case with the didgeridoo .. which is I understand is a unique part of aboriginal culture...

but painting with dots that just looks like a copy of a technique... well I dunno.

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Fuzzball Gold Member Offline Posts: 6381 Australia Gender:	Re: Only Aboriginals can paint dots and circles? Reply #65 - Mar 20^th, 2019 at 7:05pm ..........................oooooooooo.............ooooooooo...............ooooooo ..........................oooooooooo.............oooooooo.................oooooo Whoops....copyright infringement .......my bad...
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Reply #66 - Mar 20^th, 2019 at 7:10pm

Johnnie wrote on Mar 19^th, 2019 at 10:28pm:

Absolutely exquisite and no matter which way you hang it, its absolutely exquisite.

Yeah - its pretty abstract for such a primitive peoples.
Do you think 'Drugs' were involved?
I mean - the continent smoked a lot (and still no-one came for 40,000 years!) as if trying to call for help!
Maybe the early Aboriginals tried to see through the eyes of a... snake in the Garden?? Huh

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Reply #67 - Mar 20^th, 2019 at 7:12pm

Jasin wrote on Mar 20^th, 2019 at 7:10pm:

Johnnie wrote on Mar 19^th, 2019 at 10:28pm:

Absolutely exquisite and no matter which way you hang it, its absolutely exquisite.

Yeah - its pretty abstract for such a primitive peoples.
Do you think 'Drugs' were involved?
I mean - the continent smoked a lot (and still no-one came for 40,000 years!) as if trying to call for help!
Maybe the early Aboriginals tried to see through the eyes of a... snake in the Garden?? Huh

Australian acacia have very high concentrations of DMT.
If anyone can find a way to get off their face, it would be an Abo Grin

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Reply #68 - Mar 20^th, 2019 at 7:15pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 19^th, 2019 at 8:59pm:

Gordon wrote on Mar 19^th, 2019 at 8:54pm:

Thicvunt. An Aboriginal artists complaint is on the basis of the style.

the aboriginal artist was interviewed after the complaints rolled in and gave her views. What did you expect her to say? If you could ask da vinci what he thinks of people copying his mona lisa I'm sure he'd tell you it was theft as well. As would any artist who is copied.

Stop insisting on proving you're a dickhead.

You already won that race.

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Reply #69 - Mar 20^th, 2019 at 7:19pm

Philperth needs to watch Dr Phil and take a stress pill.

The Americans 'stole' Politics from the UK and created their own 'Privatised' Political system.

You will find that the 'Aboriginal' style will incorporate itself into the general mainstream of Art and will be seen 'accompanying' other styles.
It's like a new Musical Instrument - everyone want's to play it. Was Jimmy Page 'stealing' from Classical Music when he played his electric guitar like a violin?

Aboriginals want to 'cash in' on their ART STYLE, hell - take a look at the prices on their paintings at

RIP OFF ROCK

near Alice Springs... then they turn around and have a whinge about people 'adopting' the style.

They sold their ART out many years ago.

Burley-Griffith must be spewing that other nations besides the USA are using his

ART DECO

style.

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Valkie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16088 Central Coast Gender:	Re: Only Aboriginals can paint dots and circles? Reply #70 - Mar 20^th, 2019 at 7:20pm I read it Aboriginals can only paint in dots and circles because they have no talent
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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 28027 Gender:	Re: Only Aboriginals can paint dots and circles? Reply #71 - Mar 20^th, 2019 at 7:24pm Johnnie wrote on Mar 19^th, 2019 at 10:28pm: Absolutely exquisite and no matter which way you hang it, its absolutely exquisite. made at TAFE Darwin
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Reply #72 - Mar 20^th, 2019 at 7:28pm

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 19^th, 2019 at 11:30pm:

There is nothing wrong with Aboriginal people wanting to protect their culture and identity....Why do people have a problem with people defending what belongs to them???

Huh

The aim of art is to represent not the outward appearance of things, but their inward significance.
Aristotle (384 BC - 322 BC)

Dot painting is not unique Aussie Aboriginals and most were taught to do it by whites.

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Reply #73 - Mar 20^th, 2019 at 8:22pm

Aboriginal Art no longer belongs to 'them' - they sold their ART out many many years ago.

If people want an 'authentic' Artwork, then maybe they should come visit one along some dirt track that opens into a slice of their own paradise.

Tourist to Aboriginal
"Excuse me Sir. I've come to buy an 'authentic' Aboriginal Painting done by a real live Aboriginal. Do you think you can do one of the Martian Rover Lander?"

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