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Mar 19th, 2019 at 8:27am
 
Australian Politics is failing.
The two big Parties of ALP & NLP are no longer cutting the mustard with the NLP going down and the ALP failing to get up - in standards.
The Independents are appearing to try and keep the ship afloat but they are too few in number.

The Unions, Democrats, Nationals & Greens are in bed with the NLP & ALP - thus losing their own ways as Individual distinct parties. Much like Rudd got Peter Garret into ALP  where he could 'imprison' any effort Garret tried to make for  Environmental/Conservation benefits (against either ALP or NLP).

It's a sinking ship people!
So unless more Independents come out in force by numbers to make a majority like a school of fish?
This country is politically going down the gurgler.
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Reply #1 - Mar 19th, 2019 at 8:39am
 
Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 8:27am:
The Unions, Democrats, Nationals & Greens are in bed with the NLP & ALP - thus losing their own ways as Individual distinct parties.


There'd be something seriously wrong if the Unions weren't in bed with the ALP.

The ALP was created by the Unions.

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Don't you have to be a member of a trade union to join the ALP?
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Reply #3 - Mar 19th, 2019 at 9:08am
 
Spatchcock wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 8:56am:
Don't you have to be a member of a trade union to join the ALP?


No....Perhaps you should not comment on anything you know nothing about socco!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #4 - Mar 19th, 2019 at 9:10am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 8:39am:
Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 8:27am:
The Unions, Democrats, Nationals & Greens are in bed with the NLP & ALP - thus losing their own ways as Individual distinct parties.


There'd be something seriously wrong if the Unions weren't in bed with the ALP.

The ALP was created by the Unions.



Jasin has shown he is the biggest dickhead on this forum....Anything this idiot says should be opposed on the simple fact Jasin said it....Complete ass hole of the lowest order!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley
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Reply #5 - Mar 19th, 2019 at 9:15am
 
Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 8:27am:
Australian Politics is failing.
The two big Parties of ALP & NLP are no longer cutting the mustard with the NLP going down and the ALP failing to get up - in standards.
The Independents are appearing to try and keep the ship afloat but they are too few in number.

The Unions, Democrats, Nationals & Greens are in bed with the NLP & ALP - thus losing their own ways as Individual distinct parties. Much like Rudd got Peter Garret into ALP  where he could 'imprison' any effort Garret tried to make for  Environmental/Conservation benefits (against either ALP or NLP).

It's a sinking ship people!
So unless more Independents come out in force by numbers to make a majority like a school of fish?
This country is politically going down the gurgler.


It's a consequence of electing privileged white closet poms whose only quality was that they were the biggest whiners on the ballot.

You can't turn whiners into winners by changing two letters in words.
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Reply #6 - Mar 19th, 2019 at 9:17am
 
Spatchcock wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 8:56am:
Don't you have to be a member of a trade union to join the ALP?


Yes.

It would be a little strange if that were not the case.

The ALP was created by the Unions, for the Unions, and is run by the Unions.

It only stands to reason that one should be a Union member if one wants to join the ALP.

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Reply #7 - Mar 19th, 2019 at 9:17am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 9:10am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 8:39am:
Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 8:27am:
The Unions, Democrats, Nationals & Greens are in bed with the NLP & ALP - thus losing their own ways as Individual distinct parties.


There'd be something seriously wrong if the Unions weren't in bed with the ALP.

The ALP was created by the Unions.



Jasin has shown he is the biggest dickhead on this forum....Anything this idiot says should be opposed on the simple fact Jasin said it....Complete ass hole of the lowest order!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley


JaSin is a classic loser. He lives in the back of a clapped out truck, bangs grannies as a sport, and has a string of failures which he calls a life.
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Reply #8 - Mar 19th, 2019 at 9:23am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 9:17am:
Spatchcock wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 8:56am:
Don't you have to be a member of a trade union to join the ALP?


Yes.

It would be a little strange if that were not the case.

The ALP was created by the Unions, for the Unions, and is run by the Unions.

It only stands to reason that one should be a Union member if one wants to join the ALP.



Sorry Greg but you are wrong....I was a member of Labor for several years before Rudd axed Julia Gillard and I have never belonged to any Union....I am no longer a member of any political party!!!

Huh Huh Huh
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Reply #9 - Mar 19th, 2019 at 9:26am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 9:23am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 9:17am:
Spatchcock wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 8:56am:
Don't you have to be a member of a trade union to join the ALP?


Yes.

It would be a little strange if that were not the case.

The ALP was created by the Unions, for the Unions, and is run by the Unions.

It only stands to reason that one should be a Union member if one wants to join the ALP.



Sorry Greg but you are wrong....I was a member of Labor for several years before Rudd axed Julia Gillard and I have never belonged to any Union....I am no longer a member of any political party!!!

Huh Huh Huh


Ah, okay - they might have changed it.

Or, maybe it's just suggested that you be a Union member, but it's not compulsory.

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Reply #10 - Mar 19th, 2019 at 9:28am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 9:23am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 9:17am:
Spatchcock wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 8:56am:
Don't you have to be a member of a trade union to join the ALP?


Yes.

It would be a little strange if that were not the case.

The ALP was created by the Unions, for the Unions, and is run by the Unions.

It only stands to reason that one should be a Union member if one wants to join the ALP.



Sorry Greg but you are wrong....I was a member of Labor for several years before Rudd axed Julia Gillard and I have never belonged to any Union....I am no longer a member of any political party!!!

Huh Huh Huh


Actually Phil, I just checked.

This is from the Victorian branch of the ALP:

"Note: Membership applicants must be a member of an affiliated union if applicable.

"See a full list of affiliated unions listed on the other side
of this form."


https://www.viclabor.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Central-Member-2018.pdf
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Reply #11 - Mar 19th, 2019 at 9:33am
 
Spatchcock wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 8:56am:
Don't you have to be a member of a trade union to join the ALP?


Used to be that way.

I'm not sure what the current rule is.
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Reply #12 - Mar 19th, 2019 at 9:36am
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 9:33am:
Spatchcock wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 8:56am:
Don't you have to be a member of a trade union to join the ALP?


Used to be that way.

I'm not sure what the current rule is.


I just checked the Victorian and South Australian branches.

They both say you "must" be a union member if, eligible.

https://sa.alp.org.au/files/Membership_2015-16_FINAL.pdf

https://www.viclabor.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Central-Member-2018.pdf

The point is, why is that unusual?

The ALP was created by the Unions, for the Unions, and is run by the Unions.

It makes perfect sense to be a member.

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Reply #13 - Mar 19th, 2019 at 10:04am
 
I think jasin is just one more of the righties on this forum who've realised the wank party they have been worshipping are a bunch of losers. Yes jasin, your mob are failures but don't try to drag everybody else down with you. I back billy the winner thanks.
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Reply #14 - Mar 19th, 2019 at 5:24pm
 
Our idiot politicians just don't get it

Virtue signalling to every minority and mentally ill group is only alienating them from the majority of normal human beings in Australia.

People don't vote for politicians any more

They vote against the one they hate the most.

I'd love an option on the ballot papers " sack the lot and start again"

Imagine the result 99.99% woukd tick that box.
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I HAVE A DREAM
A WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL DREAM.
A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

SUCH A WONDERFUL DREAM
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Valkie wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 5:24pm:
Our idiot politicians just don't get it

Virtue signalling to every minority and mentally ill group is only alienating them from the majority of normal human beings in Australia.

People don't vote for politicians any more

They vote against the one they hate the most.

I'd love an option on the ballot papers " sack the lot and start again"

Imagine the result 99.99% woukd tick that box.


I like that idea.

Get rid of the lot.

Elect a female and male rep from an amalgamated set of electorates to start over with instant equal representation of the sexes.  Cool


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Reply #16 - Mar 19th, 2019 at 5:49pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 5:33pm:
Valkie wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 5:24pm:
Our idiot politicians just don't get it

Virtue signalling to every minority and mentally ill group is only alienating them from the majority of normal human beings in Australia.

People don't vote for politicians any more

They vote against the one they hate the most.

I'd love an option on the ballot papers " sack the lot and start again"

Imagine the result 99.99% woukd tick that box.


I like that idea.

Get rid of the lot.

Elect a female and male rep from an amalgamated set of electorates to start over with instant equal representation of the sexes.  Cool



Grin Grin Grin

Zif that was the answer!!!   Sack the lot - and the idiots will always spring up with their petty hobbyhorses - aaaaand Cap'n Nobody is first off the rank.

AND THEY ARE OFF!!!
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Reply #17 - Mar 19th, 2019 at 5:52pm
 
I would prefer something along the lines of the Roman Senate.

Get rid of the two-party system.

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Reply #18 - Mar 19th, 2019 at 11:36pm
 
Perhaps something more along the lines of the Colosseum...

Downe At Ye Olde Gladiator Pre-Season Tryalles:-

".... the politician is running, but the gladiators have him surrounded... ooooh... what a blow!  We'll get a better view on the action replay..... but that was a terrific right hander ...  Owrrr... blood everywhere.... he's down, but still kicking.. doing a Howard so to speak.... the gladiator who felled him raises his sword to the umpire.. will it be a thumb up or a thumb down?  ...........................................

....................oh.. it's a thumb down.. sorry 'bout that......"
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Reply #19 - Mar 20th, 2019 at 6:32am
 
Valkie wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 5:24pm:
Our idiot politicians just don't get it

Virtue signalling to every minority and mentally ill group is only alienating them from the majority of normal human beings in Australia.

People don't vote for politicians any more

They vote against the one they hate the most.

I'd love an option on the ballot papers " sack the lot and start again"

Imagine the result 99.99% woukd tick that box.



this is entirely predictable in a democracy.

most people are in low vibration energy
most people feel they live in scarcity
they think money is scarce and they think it is limited and they think the rich people are hoarding it all
most people want to take
most people are chronically anxious, beaten down and butt hurt.
most people think that if they just got to take more money , it would all work out for them
most people are what the buddha called "hungry ghosts".

they will never ever ever understand that you become rich and abundant by giving first.
even hearing that they will get mad and say aquascoot is trying to trick them
they will have an emotional reaction of rage by hearing that.

a politician who needs votes cant present the narrative i am presenting
the masses would never buy that.

so the politicians MUST vibe with the masses and present a picture of scarcity and gloom and offer a solution where each little individual gets told he might get to TAKE more.

a politician is like a businessman on the street who comes across a homeless guy.
he can offer the guy all the great advice in the world about how to climb the narrow road to success but the guy cant hear it.
the guy looks at the happy successful person and he looks fearful that the happy successful person is going to steal his cardboard box.
thats how twisted the personal psychology of the masses has become.
they are so stifled and their sphincters are so tight , they can never move up.

no one is suppressing them, no one is holding them down
'they are doing it to themselves and the politicians are merely attuned to their neuroticism
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Reply #20 - Mar 20th, 2019 at 8:14am
 
you have to smile... idiot politicians all there thanks to idiot voters... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


makes sense to some. Smiley
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Reply #21 - Mar 20th, 2019 at 8:35am
 
I am no fan of Labor, I think Shorten will be a mediocre PM and some of the views and actions of a selection of Labor Pollies leaves me shaking my head.  However this disaster that have been in for the last nearly 6 years have got to go - even if it is just to remind them that they cannot treat voters with such contempt.   My MP is Greg Hunt and I have watched him go from a good, community minded MP that listened to his constituents to a bum licking fan of whomever in the top job would do him favours.

I don't even know who the Labor Pollie is - he hasn't been seen here for years, so I guess it will be another election of trolling through the paper and trying to select a Candidate who states they will work for the betterment of the electorate and not themselves.  That will be a mega task and hard to get right
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Reply #22 - Mar 20th, 2019 at 8:39am
 

"I think Shorten will be a mediocre PM and some of the views and actions of a selection of Labor Pollies leaves me shaking my head.  However this disaster that have been in for the last nearly 6 years have got to go - even if it is just to remind them that they cannot treat voters with such contempt."

I agree.

I'm not excited by the prospect of Shorten becoming PM, but this current mob of inept criminals have well and truly passed their use by date.


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greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 8:39am:
"I think Shorten will be a mediocre PM and some of the views and actions of a selection of Labor Pollies leaves me shaking my head.  However this disaster that have been in for the last nearly 6 years have got to go - even if it is just to remind them that they cannot treat voters with such contempt."

I agree.

I'm not excited by the prospect of Shorten becoming PM, but this current mob of inept criminals have well and truly passed their use by date.





how about a list of those

DISASTERS  greg....

you make a clima like that   yet I cant really think of any other than going down the same track as shartarse......woeful...I feel sick every time I think of it..

but but but what else   did theys top the boats?... maybe I dreamt that..

did they almost close Manus that LABOR OPEND.. maybe I dreamt that...

or maybe you prefer the boats to keep coming and manus to be overflowing

if you call ALL  that a DISASTER Angry Angry Angry

oh btw more life saving medicines  put on the pbs....  but shhh thats another disaster.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #24 - Mar 20th, 2019 at 9:09am
 
cods wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 9:02am:
but but but what else   did theys top the boats?... maybe I dreamt that..



Stopped the boats that were carrying refugees, and instead let 64,000 illegal immigrants, who came by plane, stay in the country.

Epic failure.

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Reply #25 - Mar 20th, 2019 at 9:32am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 9:09am:
cods wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 9:02am:
but but but what else   did theys top the boats?... maybe I dreamt that..



Stopped the boats that were carrying refugees, and instead let 64,000 illegal immigrants, who came by plane, stay in the country.

Epic failure.



cods was looking for a list.

Here's a start:

Unmasking Malcolm: The Big 5 Policy Failures of 2017
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cods wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 9:02am:
how about a list of those

DISASTERS  greg....



Here's one list:


TURNBULL’S 30 BIGGEST FAILURES

1. Giving a $65 billion tax handout to multinationals and big banks – who refuse to guarantee to create new jobs or give workers a pay rise.

2. Giving millionaires a $16,400 tax cut while increasing income taxes for ordinary working Australians earning less than $87,000. Under Turnbull’s plan the CEOs of the big banks are getting a tax cut while a nurse earning $60,000 gets a $300 tax increase every year.

3. Presiding over record low wages growth and making it even harder for Australians to make ends meet by supporting cuts to penalty rates which will reduce the take home pay of up to 700,000 hardworking Australians. 

4. Cut the pensions of around 370,000 Australiansby up to $12,000 every year thanks to changes to the pension assets test; axed the pensioner energy supplement; plans to increase the pension age to 70 – one of the oldest retirement ages in the developed world.

5. Cutting $17 billion from Australian schools and $2.2 billion from Australian universities.

6. Cutting $715 million out of Australian hospitals; cutting $300 million from dental health funding; freezing the Medicare rebate – forcing Australians to pay more to see the doctor; presiding over the longest average elective surgery waiting times in Australian history.

7. Refusing to crack down on the rorts and rip-offs in the private health insurance sector – private health insurance is now costing Australians $1000 more every year than when the Liberals were elected in 2013.

8. Making 279,000 families worse off under child care changes.

9. Telling young Australians struggling to afford their first home to get rich parents, while offering billions of dollars in taxpayer subsidies to wealthy property investors.

10. Presiding over record high energy prices and rising emissions – carbon emissions are higher than when Turnbull took office and are projected to keep on rising.

11. The cost of Malcolm Turnbull’s second-rate copper NBN has blown out by over $29 billion and is years behind schedule, but he still managed to get a 100 megabit per second fibre NBN connection at his own harbour-side mansion.

12. Cutting $184 million from the Australian Federal Police over the next four years, with 151 Police personnel to go in the first year alone.

13. Gross debt has crashed through half-a-trillion dollars on the Liberals’ watch for the first time in the country’s history, with no peak in sight, and with record net debt for the next three years.

14. Presiding over a $23.6 billion deficit – eight times larger than the $2.8 billion deficit in the Liberals’ first horror Budget in 2014.

15. Floating a plan to address the “excesses” of negative gearing and capital gains tax before back flipping after being rolled by his conservative rivals in Cabinet.

16. Proposing to increase the rate of the GST by 50 per cent and broaden the base to make education and fresh food more expensive for every Australian.

17. Floating a plan to allow the States to levy their own income taxes.

18. Proposing withdrawing all Federal Government funding for schools and hospitals.

19. Reduced to governing with a single seat majority after losing 15 seats at the 2016 Federal election, despite tipping $1.75 million of his own money into the Liberal Party’s election coffers – making Turnbull the largest single political donor in Australian history.

20. Delivering the worst election night speech in Australian political history – a dummy spit where he blamed his failed campaign on a text message about the Liberals’ war on Medicare.

21. Losing 8 Ministers in less than three years thanks to rorts, misconduct and maladministration – including the unprecedented achievement of losing his Deputy Prime Minister twice in the space of just 4 months.

22. Failing to sack Michaelia Cash despite her misleading the Senate five times in relation to her office’s involvement in the leaking of details about AFP raids and using parliamentary privilege to smear Opposition staff.

23. Plunging his government into a new crisis after Senator Cory Bernardi deserted the Liberal Party over Turnbull’s failed leadership.

24. Responsible for the removal of more area from conservation than any government in any country ever.

25. Failing to show the same leadership demonstrated by John Howard in the 1990s by refusing to rule out a preference deal with Pauline Hanson’s One Nation.

26. Offering to trade away John Howard’s tough gun laws to buy votes from Liberal Democrat Senator David Leyonhjelm.

27. Leading the first majority Government to lose a vote on the floor of the House of Representatives in over half a century, running out of legislation to debate in the Senate, voting against its own legislation and voting for an amendment condemning itself.

28. Cancelling Parliament after losing his majority on the floor of representatives amid fears he’d be rolled by his own Party Room on key policy issues and his own leadership.

29. Forced to establish a Royal Commission into the Banking and Financial Services Industry after being rolled by hostile backbenchers, despite spending years saying a Royal Commission was unnecessary.

30. Suffering the humiliation of being called on to quit by one of his own Coalition colleagues as NSW Deputy Premier John Barilaro said Turnbull should stand aside as a Christmas gift to Au
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Reply #27 - Mar 20th, 2019 at 10:25am
 
Malc   seriously.. I dont know of any Lib who supported that lefty wannabee..

I cant see anY DISASTERS IN THE LIST>>

in your mind maybe   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

as it is you are saying Stopping the BOATS  was a disaster

got it sunshine.... your lot

OPENED THE GATES TO PEOPLE SMUGGLERS....AND SPENT 6 YEARS TRYING TO COVER IT UP.....YIPPEE..

YOU CANT WAIT FOR THEM TO START AGAIN..

THE LIBS WERE IN  5 MIN   AND THEY STOP 

AND YOU CALL IT A DISASTER... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

its says so much.......Malc acting like shortarse   following in his footsteps....and its what you look for...



Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

ok boyo   we shall see how the tide flows in May...

not looking too good for your mob in NSW either
...whats that I hear....3 more sleeps.. Wink
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cods wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 10:25am:
Malc   seriously.. I dont know of any Lib who supported that lefty wannabee..

I cant see anY DISASTERS IN THE LIST>>

in your mind maybe   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

as it is you are saying Stopping the BOATS  was a disaster

got it sunshine.... your lot

OPENED THE GATES TO PEOPLE SMUGGLERS....AND SPENT 6 YEARS TRYING TO COVER IT UP.....YIPPEE..

YOU CANT WAIT FOR THEM TO START AGAIN..

THE LIBS WERE IN  5 MIN   AND THEY STOP 

AND YOU CALL IT A DISASTER... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

its says so much.......Malc acting like shortarse   following in his footsteps....and its what you look for...



Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

ok boyo   we shall see how the tide flows in May...

not looking too good for your mob in NSW either
...whats that I hear....3 more sleeps.. Wink



64,000 illegal immigrants in the country, that came by plane.

Why do you ignore this?


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I cant see anY DISASTERS IN THE LIST>>



This makes you happy, does it?

6. Cutting $715 million out of Australian hospitals; cutting $300 million from dental health funding; freezing the Medicare rebate – forcing Australians to pay more to see the doctor; presiding over the longest average elective surgery waiting times in Australian history.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 10:48am:
cods wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 10:25am:
Malc   seriously.. I dont know of any Lib who supported that lefty wannabee..

I cant see anY DISASTERS IN THE LIST>>

in your mind maybe   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

as it is you are saying Stopping the BOATS  was a disaster

got it sunshine.... your lot

OPENED THE GATES TO PEOPLE SMUGGLERS....AND SPENT 6 YEARS TRYING TO COVER IT UP.....YIPPEE..

YOU CANT WAIT FOR THEM TO START AGAIN..

THE LIBS WERE IN  5 MIN   AND THEY STOP 

AND YOU CALL IT A DISASTER... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

its says so much.......Malc acting like shortarse   following in his footsteps....and its what you look for...



Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

ok boyo   we shall see how the tide flows in May...

not looking too good for your mob in NSW either
...whats that I hear....3 more sleeps.. Wink



64,000 illegal immigrants in the country, that came by plane.

Why do you ignore this?






I dont pet   what would you like to talk about..

the papers they come in with

the passports

the visas... they over stay...

do we have 64000 in Villawood... news to me?..

did people smugglers get them in behind our backs..

did they get through Customs. by any chance???...

I am willing to chat about that.....

if they are being smuggled in yep lets discuss.....

last I heard it wasnt illegal to come in even by boat if you have a legal passport and a visa...

tell me pet   how is BILL going to stop the plane people????????/
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Reply #31 - Mar 20th, 2019 at 10:57am
 
cods wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 10:53am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 10:48am:
cods wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 10:25am:
Malc   seriously.. I dont know of any Lib who supported that lefty wannabee..

I cant see anY DISASTERS IN THE LIST>>

in your mind maybe   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

as it is you are saying Stopping the BOATS  was a disaster

got it sunshine.... your lot

OPENED THE GATES TO PEOPLE SMUGGLERS....AND SPENT 6 YEARS TRYING TO COVER IT UP.....YIPPEE..

YOU CANT WAIT FOR THEM TO START AGAIN..

THE LIBS WERE IN  5 MIN   AND THEY STOP 

AND YOU CALL IT A DISASTER... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

its says so much.......Malc acting like shortarse   following in his footsteps....and its what you look for...



Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

ok boyo   we shall see how the tide flows in May...

not looking too good for your mob in NSW either
...whats that I hear....3 more sleeps.. Wink



64,000 illegal immigrants in the country, that came by plane.

Why do you ignore this?






I dont pet   what would you like to talk about..

the papers they come in with

the passports

the visas... they over stay...

do we have 64000 in Villawood... news to me?..

did people smugglers get them in behind our backs..

did they get through Customs. by any chance???...

I am willing to chat about that.....

if they are being smuggled in yep lets discuss.....

last I heard it wasnt illegal to come in even by boat if you have a legal passport and a visa...

tell me pet   how is BILL going to stop the plane people????????/


They are illegal immigrants.

64,000 of them.

Why do you condone illegal immigrants living in our country?

What other crimes do you condone?
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cods wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 10:25am:
I cant see anY DISASTERS IN THE LIST>>


8. Making 279,000 families worse off under child care changes.


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Reply #33 - Mar 20th, 2019 at 11:08am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 10:57am:
cods wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 10:53am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 10:48am:
cods wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 10:25am:
Malc   seriously.. I dont know of any Lib who supported that lefty wannabee..

I cant see anY DISASTERS IN THE LIST>>

in your mind maybe   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

as it is you are saying Stopping the BOATS  was a disaster

got it sunshine.... your lot

OPENED THE GATES TO PEOPLE SMUGGLERS....AND SPENT 6 YEARS TRYING TO COVER IT UP.....YIPPEE..

YOU CANT WAIT FOR THEM TO START AGAIN..

THE LIBS WERE IN  5 MIN   AND THEY STOP 

AND YOU CALL IT A DISASTER... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

its says so much.......Malc acting like shortarse   following in his footsteps....and its what you look for...



Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

ok boyo   we shall see how the tide flows in May...

not looking too good for your mob in NSW either
...whats that I hear....3 more sleeps.. Wink



64,000 illegal immigrants in the country, that came by plane.

Why do you ignore this?






I dont pet   what would you like to talk about..

the papers they come in with

the passports

the visas... they over stay...

do we have 64000 in Villawood... news to me?..

did people smugglers get them in behind our backs..

did they get through Customs. by any chance???...

I am willing to chat about that.....

if they are being smuggled in yep lets discuss.....

last I heard it wasnt illegal to come in even by boat if you have a legal passport and a visa...

tell me pet   how is BILL going to stop the plane people????????/


They are illegal immigrants.

64,000 of them.

Why do you condone illegal immigrants living in our country?

What other crimes do you condone?



instead of changing the subject   lets talk about these illegals   are they in VILLAWOOD....like others are on MANUS???????????????????????????????????????????...

you come up with these figures...so if they are not in VILLAWOOD where are they hiding?????......who counts them?....who responsible??...do you count that soccer player who was jailed in Thailand   as an illegal greg?...as one of the 64000...or do you make allowances for him?????..


just curious...


you dont seem to want to talk about this just point fingers..

just sayin like!
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cods wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 11:08am:
instead of changing the subject   lets talk about these illegals   are they in VILLAWOOD....like others are on MANUS???????????????????????????????????????????...

you come up with these figures...so if they are not in VILLAWOOD where are they hiding?????......who counts them?....who responsible??...do you count that soccer player who was jailed in Thailand   as an illegal greg?...as one of the 64000...or do you make allowances for him?????..


just curious...


you dont seem to want to talk about this just point fingers..

just sayin like!


There will be blood. Cods continues to shoot itself in the foot.

Cods' lost plot resurfaces.

Cods, are you the mysterious miscreant illegal that immigration has been searching for forty years. Or is it Grappler or one of Cods other mates.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/australian-illegal-immigrants-exceed-64-000-figures-sh...
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Reply #35 - Mar 20th, 2019 at 11:51am
 
cods wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 11:08am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 10:57am:
cods wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 10:53am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 10:48am:
cods wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 10:25am:
Malc   seriously.. I dont know of any Lib who supported that lefty wannabee..

I cant see anY DISASTERS IN THE LIST>>

in your mind maybe   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

as it is you are saying Stopping the BOATS  was a disaster

got it sunshine.... your lot

OPENED THE GATES TO PEOPLE SMUGGLERS....AND SPENT 6 YEARS TRYING TO COVER IT UP.....YIPPEE..

YOU CANT WAIT FOR THEM TO START AGAIN..

THE LIBS WERE IN  5 MIN   AND THEY STOP 

AND YOU CALL IT A DISASTER... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

its says so much.......Malc acting like shortarse   following in his footsteps....and its what you look for...



Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

ok boyo   we shall see how the tide flows in May...

not looking too good for your mob in NSW either
...whats that I hear....3 more sleeps.. Wink



64,000 illegal immigrants in the country, that came by plane.

Why do you ignore this?






I dont pet   what would you like to talk about..

the papers they come in with

the passports

the visas... they over stay...

do we have 64000 in Villawood... news to me?..

did people smugglers get them in behind our backs..

did they get through Customs. by any chance???...

I am willing to chat about that.....

if they are being smuggled in yep lets discuss.....

last I heard it wasnt illegal to come in even by boat if you have a legal passport and a visa...

tell me pet   how is BILL going to stop the plane people????????/


They are illegal immigrants.

64,000 of them.

Why do you condone illegal immigrants living in our country?

What other crimes do you condone?



instead of changing the subject   lets talk about these illegals   are they in VILLAWOOD....like others are on MANUS???????????????????????????????????????????...

you come up with these figures...so if they are not in VILLAWOOD where are they hiding?????......who counts them?....who responsible??...do you count that soccer player who was jailed in Thailand   as an illegal greg?...as one of the 64000...or do you make allowances for him?????..


just curious...


you dont seem to want to talk about this just point fingers..

just sayin like!


They're living in the community, illegally.

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last I heard it wasnt illegal to come in even by boat if you have a legal passport and a visa...


Correct.

Who said it was?
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Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 5:52pm:
I would prefer something along the lines of the Roman Senate.

Get rid of the two-party system.


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

You would "prefer something along the lines of the Roman Senate", would you???   What are the features of "something along the lines of the Roman Senate" that attract you?  Go on, unburden yourself.

Articulate, if it's in you.



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greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 11:52am:
Correct.




YOU GO GIRL!!!!

Your pretentiousness and  banality knows no bounds, Turd, it's Bwianesque - have I said that before? I say it again. The sheer ostentatious, swaggering stupidity you both display would justify ticket sales to Ozpolitic.

FD, charge for access to these clowns' posts. It's a modern day freak show.



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I've created the perfect system of government, which would resolve most of our problems.

Have you?  Well done, Julius Caesar - or are you Jesus? Bonaparte?
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Spatchcock wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 8:56am:
Don't you have to be a member of a trade union to join the ALP?


No....Perhaps you should not comment on anything you know nothing about socco!!!

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philperth2010 wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 9:10am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 8:39am:
Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 8:27am:
The Unions, Democrats, Nationals & Greens are in bed with the NLP & ALP - thus losing their own ways as Individual distinct parties.


There'd be something seriously wrong if the Unions weren't in bed with the ALP.

The ALP was created by the Unions.



Jasin has shown he is the biggest dickhead on this forum....Anything this idiot says should be opposed on the simple fact Jasin said it....Complete ass hole of the lowest order!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley


Only an 'American' Australian like you would right such an insulting post without warrant. Can't even spell ARSE properly!  You still lack any progressive innovation and imagination - sitting back there on the 'bench' just slaggin off without putting anything of your own accord out there to be judged.
Ha! You might think me an 'ass' hole in your view, but I think I've got more balls than you, by a kilometre. Wink
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Laugh till you cry wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 9:17am:
philperth2010 wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 9:10am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 8:39am:
Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 8:27am:
The Unions, Democrats, Nationals & Greens are in bed with the NLP & ALP - thus losing their own ways as Individual distinct parties.


There'd be something seriously wrong if the Unions weren't in bed with the ALP.

The ALP was created by the Unions.



Jasin has shown he is the biggest dickhead on this forum....Anything this idiot says should be opposed on the simple fact Jasin said it....Complete ass hole of the lowest order!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley


JaSin is a classic loser. He lives in the back of a clapped out truck, bangs grannies as a sport, and has a string of failures which he calls a life.


Well, your bum-chum Peckerhead has been 'banging' against CODS for months now. 'Ol' CODS loves the Peckerhead Toy Boy from time to time. Just check out his 'action'
AFTER
you wrote this post!  Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Frank wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 6:41pm:
Auggie wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 6:28pm:
I've created the perfect system of government, which would resolve most of our problems.

Have you?  Well done, Julius Caesar - or are you Jesus? Bonaparte?


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Any Political form from the Northern Hemisphere - regardless if it is Ancient or Modern... will never really work here in Australia. Even the current expression in Australia is there by default of the UK & USA.

Australian Politics of the future must be something entirely 'new'. Almost as if it was the next 'evolution' of Politics into the future.
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Jasin wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 7:23pm:
Any Political form from the Northern Hemisphere - regardless if it is Ancient or Modern... will never really work here in Australia. Even the current expression in Australia is there by default of the UK & USA.

Australian Politics of the future must be something entirely 'new'. Almost as if it was the next 'evolution' of Politics into the future.


And I've developed a new system that will work for Australia.

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Auggie wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 7:29pm:
Jasin wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 7:23pm:
Any Political form from the Northern Hemisphere - regardless if it is Ancient or Modern... will never really work here in Australia. Even the current expression in Australia is there by default of the UK & USA.

Australian Politics of the future must be something entirely 'new'. Almost as if it was the next 'evolution' of Politics into the future.


And I've developed a new system that will work for Australia.

Are you interested to hear what it is?


Okay.  I will read Version 3402567-10.
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Aussie wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 7:43pm:
Auggie wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 7:29pm:
Jasin wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 7:23pm:
Any Political form from the Northern Hemisphere - regardless if it is Ancient or Modern... will never really work here in Australia. Even the current expression in Australia is there by default of the UK & USA.

Australian Politics of the future must be something entirely 'new'. Almost as if it was the next 'evolution' of Politics into the future.


And I've developed a new system that will work for Australia.

Are you interested to hear what it is?


Okay.  I will read Version 3402567-10.


You mean Version 5572315-21??
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Auggie wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 7:49pm:
Aussie wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 7:43pm:
Auggie wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 7:29pm:
Jasin wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 7:23pm:
Any Political form from the Northern Hemisphere - regardless if it is Ancient or Modern... will never really work here in Australia. Even the current expression in Australia is there by default of the UK & USA.

Australian Politics of the future must be something entirely 'new'. Almost as if it was the next 'evolution' of Politics into the future.


And I've developed a new system that will work for Australia.

Are you interested to hear what it is?


Okay.  I will read Version 3402567-10.


You mean Version 5572315-21??



Okay, but I suspect there will be a very quick update to a newer version.
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Why do 'political' Australians cry poor and need the British to run their Politics?


Because the USA stole their money via the Unions.
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What the lying and denying Lefties will never admit is the TRUTH.  Now to stir the Lefties up.

The unions are running out of money and going down the gurgler because the working people don't want anything to do with these outdated useless parasites.

So the unions are lining up with the Extremist Greenies to turn Australia into a Socialist Hell Hole where they can get access to taxpayers' money and STEAL money from retirees and pensioners and small business.

The Extremist Greenies would control the Senate and would control Labor just like before.

And the Extremist Greenies want to turn Australia int a primitive agrarian dumping ground for the world's unwanted black brown and brindles which is in accordance with the UN AGENDA 2030 which the Extremist Greenies are following to the letter.

Why do you think the Extremist Greenies are telling Labor that their TOP PRIORITY is to RESTART the BOATS!!!!!

The Extrenist Greenies controlled Labor would cause MASSIVE unemployment as they wreck the power supply with their unsustainable renewable rubbish and increase power costs by 5 to 6 times and force industry to leave Australia chucking people out of work left right and center.

SAVE Australia from Labor's Socialist Holocaust.
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Aussie wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 8:48pm:
Auggie wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 7:49pm:
Aussie wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 7:43pm:
Auggie wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 7:29pm:
Jasin wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 7:23pm:
Any Political form from the Northern Hemisphere - regardless if it is Ancient or Modern... will never really work here in Australia. Even the current expression in Australia is there by default of the UK & USA.

Australian Politics of the future must be something entirely 'new'. Almost as if it was the next 'evolution' of Politics into the future.


And I've developed a new system that will work for Australia.

Are you interested to hear what it is?


Okay.  I will read Version 3402567-10.


You mean Version 5572315-21??



Okay, but I suspect there will be a very quick update to a newer version.


Are you serious or just being sarcastic? Do you really want to hear it?
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Auggie wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 5:02pm:
Aussie wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 8:48pm:
Auggie wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 7:49pm:
Aussie wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 7:43pm:
Auggie wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 7:29pm:
Jasin wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 7:23pm:
Any Political form from the Northern Hemisphere - regardless if it is Ancient or Modern... will never really work here in Australia. Even the current expression in Australia is there by default of the UK & USA.

Australian Politics of the future must be something entirely 'new'. Almost as if it was the next 'evolution' of Politics into the future.


And I've developed a new system that will work for Australia.

Are you interested to hear what it is?


Okay.  I will read Version 3402567-10.


You mean Version 5572315-21??



Okay, but I suspect there will be a very quick update to a newer version.


Are you serious or just being sarcastic? Do you really want to hear it?


Post it.  I do read your stuff.
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Reply #54 - Mar 21st, 2019 at 5:07pm
 
Notice how the lying denying Lefties are trying to avoid the TOPIC by trying to change the subject.

Do you really want to see your country reduced to a crime ridden primitive agrarian stinking mess terrorized by the outlaws Labor will bring in when they RESTART the BOATS ?
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Reply #55 - Mar 21st, 2019 at 5:16pm
 
Aussie wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 5:03pm:
Auggie wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 5:02pm:
Aussie wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 8:48pm:
Auggie wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 7:49pm:
Aussie wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 7:43pm:
Auggie wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 7:29pm:
Jasin wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 7:23pm:
Any Political form from the Northern Hemisphere - regardless if it is Ancient or Modern... will never really work here in Australia. Even the current expression in Australia is there by default of the UK & USA.

Australian Politics of the future must be something entirely 'new'. Almost as if it was the next 'evolution' of Politics into the future.


And I've developed a new system that will work for Australia.

Are you interested to hear what it is?


Okay.  I will read Version 3402567-10.


You mean Version 5572315-21??



Okay, but I suspect there will be a very quick update to a newer version.


Are you serious or just being sarcastic? Do you really want to hear it?


Post it.  I do read your stuff.



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Reply #56 - Mar 21st, 2019 at 5:25pm
 
The system is pretty much the same as now, but with a change to the Executive branch.

Executive power is vested in a President.

Prior to an election there will presidential primaries for each party and the people will choose the candidates for their respective parties.

At election time, every member of the House of Reps will pledge support for their candidate of choice (along party lines of course), and the party with the most seats will have their presidential candidate elected.

This means that the President and the House of Representatives will always be of the same party.

Advantages:

1) the House of Reps cannot knife their leader;

2) the President can create his/her own agenda and vision without having to go through Cabinet;

Disadvantages:

None.
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Reply #57 - Mar 21st, 2019 at 5:29pm
 
The Lefty Socialist Sheeple are of course talking about their dream country with WELFARE for ALL for EVER as it plunges into a bottomless sea of DEBT which is what a Labor "Govt" will do as they ALWAYS do because they are such incompetent economic managers.

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Reply #58 - Mar 21st, 2019 at 5:32pm
 
Auggie wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 5:25pm:
The system is pretty much the same as now, but with a change to the Executive branch.

Executive power is vested in a President.

Prior to an election there will presidential primaries for each party and the people will choose the candidates for their respective parties.

At election time, every member of the House of Reps will pledge support for their candidate of choice (along party lines of course), and the party with the most seats will have their presidential candidate elected.

This means that the President and the House of Representatives will always be of the same party.

Advantages:

1) the House of Reps cannot knife their leader;

2) the President can create his/her own agenda and vision without having to go through Cabinet;

Disadvantages:

None.


Okay....but you need to specify exactly what you mean by using, in this context, 'executive powers.'
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Reply #59 - Mar 21st, 2019 at 5:38pm
 
Aussie wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 5:32pm:
Auggie wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 5:25pm:
The system is pretty much the same as now, but with a change to the Executive branch.

Executive power is vested in a President.

Prior to an election there will presidential primaries for each party and the people will choose the candidates for their respective parties.

At election time, every member of the House of Reps will pledge support for their candidate of choice (along party lines of course), and the party with the most seats will have their presidential candidate elected.

This means that the President and the House of Representatives will always be of the same party.

Advantages:

1) the House of Reps cannot knife their leader;

2) the President can create his/her own agenda and vision without having to go through Cabinet;

Disadvantages:

None.


Okay....but you need to specify exactly what you mean by using, in this context, 'executive powers.'


Executive power is executing and enforcing the law.
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Reply #60 - Mar 21st, 2019 at 5:40pm
 
Auggie wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 5:38pm:
Aussie wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 5:32pm:
Auggie wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 5:25pm:
The system is pretty much the same as now, but with a change to the Executive branch.

Executive power is vested in a President.

Prior to an election there will presidential primaries for each party and the people will choose the candidates for their respective parties.

At election time, every member of the House of Reps will pledge support for their candidate of choice (along party lines of course), and the party with the most seats will have their presidential candidate elected.

This means that the President and the House of Representatives will always be of the same party.

Advantages:

1) the House of Reps cannot knife their leader;

2) the President can create his/her own agenda and vision without having to go through Cabinet;

Disadvantages:

None.


Okay....but you need to specify exactly what you mean by using, in this context, 'executive powers.'


Executive power is executing and enforcing the law.


You get that from Wiki?

I need more detail as to how all that works in the context of your proposal which includes not having a GG (I assume.)
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Reply #61 - Mar 21st, 2019 at 5:41pm
 
Aussie wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 5:40pm:
Auggie wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 5:38pm:
Aussie wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 5:32pm:
Auggie wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 5:25pm:
The system is pretty much the same as now, but with a change to the Executive branch.

Executive power is vested in a President.

Prior to an election there will presidential primaries for each party and the people will choose the candidates for their respective parties.

At election time, every member of the House of Reps will pledge support for their candidate of choice (along party lines of course), and the party with the most seats will have their presidential candidate elected.

This means that the President and the House of Representatives will always be of the same party.

Advantages:

1) the House of Reps cannot knife their leader;

2) the President can create his/her own agenda and vision without having to go through Cabinet;

Disadvantages:

None.


Okay....but you need to specify exactly what you mean by using, in this context, 'executive powers.'


Executive power is executing and enforcing the law.


You get that from Wiki?

I need more detail as to how all that works in the context of your proposal which includes not having a GG (I assume.)


Well, another thing the Executive power does is formulate policy.
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Reply #62 - Mar 21st, 2019 at 5:45pm
 
Auggie wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 5:41pm:
Aussie wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 5:40pm:
Auggie wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 5:38pm:
Aussie wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 5:32pm:
Auggie wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 5:25pm:
The system is pretty much the same as now, but with a change to the Executive branch.

Executive power is vested in a President.

Prior to an election there will presidential primaries for each party and the people will choose the candidates for their respective parties.

At election time, every member of the House of Reps will pledge support for their candidate of choice (along party lines of course), and the party with the most seats will have their presidential candidate elected.

This means that the President and the House of Representatives will always be of the same party.

Advantages:

1) the House of Reps cannot knife their leader;

2) the President can create his/her own agenda and vision without having to go through Cabinet;

Disadvantages:

None.


Okay....but you need to specify exactly what you mean by using, in this context, 'executive powers.'


Executive power is executing and enforcing the law.


You get that from Wiki?

I need more detail as to how all that works in the context of your proposal which includes not having a GG (I assume.)


Well, another thing the Executive power does is formulate policy. 


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Okay, but I suspect there will be a very quick update to a newer version.


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Reply #63 - Mar 21st, 2019 at 5:48pm
 
Aussie wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 5:45pm:
Auggie wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 5:41pm:
Aussie wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 5:40pm:
Auggie wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 5:38pm:
Aussie wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 5:32pm:
Auggie wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 5:25pm:
The system is pretty much the same as now, but with a change to the Executive branch.

Executive power is vested in a President.

Prior to an election there will presidential primaries for each party and the people will choose the candidates for their respective parties.

At election time, every member of the House of Reps will pledge support for their candidate of choice (along party lines of course), and the party with the most seats will have their presidential candidate elected.

This means that the President and the House of Representatives will always be of the same party.

Advantages:

1) the House of Reps cannot knife their leader;

2) the President can create his/her own agenda and vision without having to go through Cabinet;

Disadvantages:

None.


Okay....but you need to specify exactly what you mean by using, in this context, 'executive powers.'


Executive power is executing and enforcing the law.


You get that from Wiki?

I need more detail as to how all that works in the context of your proposal which includes not having a GG (I assume.)


Well, another thing the Executive power does is formulate policy. 


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Okay, but I suspect there will be a very quick update to a newer version.


Smiley


Is your tactic simply to catch me out by getting me to expand on a complex system??
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Reply #64 - Mar 21st, 2019 at 5:56pm
 
No.....but so far...all you have told me about these 'Executive Powers' I suspect are line items on Wiki.

To get closer to my bottom line.....If this President (replacing the GG) has no power beyond the ceremonial like opening fetes, removing covers from plaques, cutting ribbons, greeting and hosting dignitaries and the like....Ima buying it.
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Reply #65 - Mar 21st, 2019 at 5:59pm
 
Aussie wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 5:56pm:
No.....but so far...all you have told me about these 'Executive Powers' I suspect are line items on Wiki.

To get closer to my bottom line.....If this President (replacing the GG) has no power beyond the ceremonial like opening fetes, removing covers from plaques, cutting ribbons, greeting and hosting dignitaries and the like....Ima buying it.


That's not executive power, Aussie. Executive power means executing laws. It's quite simple and straightforward. I'll give you a contemporary example - the American President.
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Reply #66 - Mar 21st, 2019 at 6:12pm
 
Now the Lefty Socialist Sheeple are on to the Peoples' Republic. Can you imagine Shorty as the first and worst president of all time ?
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Reply #67 - Mar 21st, 2019 at 6:15pm
 
juliar wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 6:12pm:
Now the Lefty Socialist Sheeple are on to the Peoples' Republic. Can you imagine Shorty as the first and worst president of all time ?


Do you know what socialism is, Juliar?
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Reply #68 - Mar 21st, 2019 at 6:19pm
 
So...who appoints the Cabinet.  Is there any interaction between Cabinet and this President with very vague executive powers?

Laws must emanate from the HOR, get through the Senate and be rubber stamped by the President.  I don't care if that 'Law' was the 'idea' of the President, but Parliament must remain Supreme.

Enforcement/execution of the Law, you say.  Isn't that the province of the relevant "Departmental" statutory authorities.....and not (as of today) with the GG?
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Reply #69 - Mar 21st, 2019 at 6:30pm
 
Aussie wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 6:19pm:
So...who appoints the Cabinet.  Is there any interaction between Cabinet and this President with very vague executive powers?

Laws must emanate from the HOR, get through the Senate and be rubber stamped by the President.  I don't care if that 'Law' was the 'idea' of the President, but Parliament must remain Supreme.

Enforcement/execution of the Law, you say.  Isn't that the province of the relevant "Departmental" statutory authorities.....and not (as of today) with the GG?


The President nominates Cabinet members, which is approved by the Senate.

Cabinet follows the instructions of the President; that what is means to be a unitary executive authority.

And of course, Parliament would remain supreme.
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Reply #70 - Mar 21st, 2019 at 7:02pm
 
Auggie wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 6:30pm:
Aussie wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 6:19pm:
So...who appoints the Cabinet.  Is there any interaction between Cabinet and this President with very vague executive powers?

Laws must emanate from the HOR, get through the Senate and be rubber stamped by the President.  I don't care if that 'Law' was the 'idea' of the President, but Parliament must remain Supreme.

Enforcement/execution of the Law, you say.  Isn't that the province of the relevant "Departmental" statutory authorities.....and not (as of today) with the GG?


The President nominates Cabinet members, which is approved by the Senate.

Cabinet follows the instructions of the President; that what is means to be a unitary executive authority.

And of course, Parliament would remain supreme.


Nah.  Far too much power in the hands of one person.  Nah.  Just.....nah.
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Reply #71 - Mar 21st, 2019 at 7:32pm
 
Aussie wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 7:02pm:
Auggie wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 6:30pm:
Aussie wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 6:19pm:
So...who appoints the Cabinet.  Is there any interaction between Cabinet and this President with very vague executive powers?

Laws must emanate from the HOR, get through the Senate and be rubber stamped by the President.  I don't care if that 'Law' was the 'idea' of the President, but Parliament must remain Supreme.

Enforcement/execution of the Law, you say.  Isn't that the province of the relevant "Departmental" statutory authorities.....and not (as of today) with the GG?


The President nominates Cabinet members, which is approved by the Senate.

Cabinet follows the instructions of the President; that what is means to be a unitary executive authority.

And of course, Parliament would remain supreme.


Nah.  Far too much power in the hands of one person.  Nah.  Just.....nah.


How is it 'far too much power'? What are you afraid of?
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Reply #72 - Mar 21st, 2019 at 7:46pm
 
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How is it 'far too much power'? What are you afraid of?


Afraid is not the right word.  It is right to say that I want no one person to have any real power.  That power must remain in Parliament. Sure, we need a token or titular 'President' but they do what I have already posted, live in a nice House at taxpayer expense and not one jot more.

I never want to see a 'Kerr' ever happen again.
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Reply #73 - Mar 21st, 2019 at 7:51pm
 
You're all forgetting one very important point!

There can be no 'political' empowerment for an 'individual' in the Southern Hemisphere.
It really is a 'Power to the People' (The Common 'wealth' of the Common People).

The fact that the Australian Politics is here by default care of the Governor General for the UK and the Prime Minister (regardless of Party) for the USA....

There can be no 'Head of State' or anything empowered to just 'one' person.

The fact that there are more 'Independents' each turn of elections, shows that Politics in OZ is 'fracturing' and any form of a Republic will be a 'corroboree' of many 'Independent Nations' upon this Continent that come together much like the Greek Nation States of old once did in times of crisis.

Sadly.
The 'future' of Power in Australia is NOT political.
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Reply #74 - Mar 21st, 2019 at 9:09pm
 
And despite all the Lefty Socialist Sheeple's grandstanding and high flown praise of their ideal Socialist People's republic the idol of their indoctrinated minds the Extremist Greeny controlled Labor Party's top policy is to RESTART the BOATS and flood Australia with the world's unwanted black brown and brindles who could not get thru the airport security checks and so try to illegally invade Australia on Labor's boats.

Wonder when Ita and ScoMo will do a special on this ? They probably will have to wait a bit until the NZ thing blows over.


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Ready, Get set, GO as soon as Labor gets in!!!!


And get ready for the BLACKOUTS when Labor cripples the power system with their unsustainable renewable rubbish which is never there when you need it AND will INCREASE the COST of POWER by 5 to 6 times!!!!!!.

Won't it be fun to get stuck in an elevator in one of Labor's Power Blackouts ????

Will there be any industries left standing in Australia after Labor wrecks the power system and the mad unions go berserk ?

If you are a retiree or pensioner or small business prepare to go onto the DOLE after Labor ROBS YOU BLIND!!!!!!


Vote for the Extremist Greeny controlled Labor Party and this is what you will get!!!!

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Greenies labelled as EXTREMISTS on the DRUM tonight.  Grin
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Reply #77 - Mar 22nd, 2019 at 12:52pm
 
JaSin,  sounds like Ita is already cleaning up the horribly Lefty biased DRUM on the ABC.

The EXTREMIST GREENIES that will control Labor thru the SENATE are HATE AUSTRALIA EVIL personified and want to reduce Australia to a primitive agrarian dumping ground for the world's unwanted blacks and browns and brindles.

This of course is what the UN AGENDA 2030 specifies and the EXTREMIST GREENIES are trying to follow that to the letter.

Crippling the power supply with renewable rubbish is the Extremist Greenies' plot to close down ALL industry in Australia.

If this destructive chaos is what you want then VOTE for the Extremist Greeny controlled Labor Party!!!
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Reply #79 - Mar 25th, 2019 at 6:57pm
 
Aussie wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 7:46pm:
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How is it 'far too much power'? What are you afraid of?


Afraid is not the right word.  It is right to say that I want no one person to have any real power.  That power must remain in Parliament. Sure, we need a token or titular 'President' but they do what I have already posted, live in a nice House at taxpayer expense and not one jot more.

I never want to see a 'Kerr' ever happen again.


The President can only execute a law that exists. He/she cannot execute a law that doesn't exist. The President, even in America, doesn't have any real power.
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Reply #80 - Mar 25th, 2019 at 7:31pm
 
Auggie wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 6:57pm:
Aussie wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 7:46pm:
Quote:
How is it 'far too much power'? What are you afraid of?


Afraid is not the right word.  It is right to say that I want no one person to have any real power.  That power must remain in Parliament. Sure, we need a token or titular 'President' but they do what I have already posted, live in a nice House at taxpayer expense and not one jot more.

I never want to see a 'Kerr' ever happen again.


The President can only execute a law that exists. He/she cannot execute a law that doesn't exist. The President, even in America, doesn't have any real power.


If that were true....there is a lot of angst about getting rid of them no matter which Party they come from.

The prick/ess can use these Executive Orders to trigger all sorts of mayhem.

And look.....just look....at the 'total and complete' fools that system foists on the World as POTUS.  For example, a lying arsehole like Trump, and it could have been Hillary (only marginally better.)

Do you really expect me to buy that?
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Auggie wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 6:57pm:
Aussie wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 7:46pm:
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How is it 'far too much power'? What are you afraid of?


Afraid is not the right word.  It is right to say that I want no one person to have any real power.  That power must remain in Parliament. Sure, we need a token or titular 'President' but they do what I have already posted, live in a nice House at taxpayer expense and not one jot more.

I never want to see a 'Kerr' ever happen again.


The President can only execute a law that exists. He/she cannot execute a law that doesn't exist. The President, even in America, doesn't have any real power.


Actually - the position of President in the USA is the ONLY real power in American Politics.

In Australia, by the look of it - its the 'Public' that have more power than the Parties, who have more power than the PM or Gov-Gen.
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Reply #82 - Mar 26th, 2019 at 5:21pm
 
Aussie wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 7:31pm:
Auggie wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 6:57pm:
Aussie wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 7:46pm:
Quote:
How is it 'far too much power'? What are you afraid of?


Afraid is not the right word.  It is right to say that I want no one person to have any real power.  That power must remain in Parliament. Sure, we need a token or titular 'President' but they do what I have already posted, live in a nice House at taxpayer expense and not one jot more.

I never want to see a 'Kerr' ever happen again.


The President can only execute a law that exists. He/she cannot execute a law that doesn't exist. The President, even in America, doesn't have any real power.


If that were true....there is a lot of angst about getting rid of them no matter which Party they come from.

The prick/ess can use these Executive Orders to trigger all sorts of mayhem.

And look.....just look....at the 'total and complete' fools that system foists on the World as POTUS.  For example, a lying arsehole like Trump, and it could have been Hillary (only marginally better.)

Do you really expect me to buy that?


Buy or not, up to you. The fact is that the Presidency has become a focal point for the media and for other politicians, just like the Prime Minster in our system. The only difference is that the Party in power can knife the PM whenever they want.

And regarding the executive orders, the President makes executive orders in areas that are 'vague' or ambiguous'. Congress can always prevent the President from doing something by law. The fact they don't isn't an indictment on the Presidency but on the legislative branch.
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Reply #83 - Mar 26th, 2019 at 5:24pm
 
Jasin wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 7:48pm:
Auggie wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 6:57pm:
Aussie wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 7:46pm:
Quote:
How is it 'far too much power'? What are you afraid of?


Afraid is not the right word.  It is right to say that I want no one person to have any real power.  That power must remain in Parliament. Sure, we need a token or titular 'President' but they do what I have already posted, live in a nice House at taxpayer expense and not one jot more.

I never want to see a 'Kerr' ever happen again.


The President can only execute a law that exists. He/she cannot execute a law that doesn't exist. The President, even in America, doesn't have any real power.


Actually - the position of President in the USA is the ONLY real power in American Politics.

In Australia, by the look of it - its the 'Public' that have more power than the Parties, who have more power than the PM or Gov-Gen.


Not true, the parties have real power. The people ultimately vote in the party - the party is the government, no matter who's the PM or the Cabinet. Brian Ross and Aussie made this very clear to me a long time ago.

The difference with the American system is that President cannot be knifed in the back by his/her party. Sure, the candidate for President is a nominee of the party but that candidate is chosen by the people beforehand anyway through the primary system.
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