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Reply #15 - Mar 18th, 2019 at 9:59am
 
Gordon wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 9:57am:
tickleandrose wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 9:54am:
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tickleandrose wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 9:46am:
I think the hijab she is wearing is beautiful.  Look at the edges. 


How does the abuse of women who don't cover themselves in Islamic countries sit with you?


Bad, I dont agree with them, and those men who abuse women would hopefully one day bought to justice.   However, if a women choose to wear a hijab, and wanting to cover themselves, then you should also afford the respect as well.   In a word, what other people wear voluntarily, is NONE of your business. 


Do you really think it's voluntary in a system that considered women who don't wear it to be immoral?


Is New Zealand a country where, it is considered to be immoral if women dont cover up? 
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Reply #16 - Mar 18th, 2019 at 10:02am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 9:48am:
tickleandrose wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 9:46am:
I think the hijab she is wearing is beautiful.  Look at the edges. 



Well - it's a nice sentiment - she doesn't wear it every day.. and it's just politics... not as if she converted or nuffin'...




its just a respectful gesture.....50 dead dont forget...

its what one does when one is PM....
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Reply #17 - Mar 18th, 2019 at 10:08am
 
Gordon wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 9:50am:
tickleandrose wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 9:46am:
I think the hijab she is wearing is beautiful.  Look at the edges. 


How does the abuse of women who don't cover themselves in Islamic countries sit with you?


It makes me sick. I once knew a Muslim man in Atlanta who was quite stylish and looked like he put a lot of thought and money into his look. Then I met his wife. Well, I couldn't see his wife unless you consider two eyes and two hands a wife.

That being said, I understand why the NZ PM wore the barbaric headdress - for the same reason high-profile women who meet the Pope dress the way they do.

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Reply #18 - Mar 18th, 2019 at 10:27am
 
tickleandrose wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 9:59am:
Gordon wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 9:57am:
tickleandrose wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 9:54am:
Gordon wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 9:50am:
tickleandrose wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 9:46am:
I think the hijab she is wearing is beautiful.  Look at the edges. 


How does the abuse of women who don't cover themselves in Islamic countries sit with you?


Bad, I dont agree with them, and those men who abuse women would hopefully one day bought to justice.   However, if a women choose to wear a hijab, and wanting to cover themselves, then you should also afford the respect as well.   In a word, what other people wear voluntarily, is NONE of your business. 


Do you really think it's voluntary in a system that considered women who don't wear it to be immoral?


Is New Zealand a country where, it is considered to be immoral if women dont cover up? 


The country is irrelevant as they're still part of a religion which would view them as immoral if they don't wear it. To go against it could mean being estranged from their family.




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Reply #19 - Mar 18th, 2019 at 10:36am
 
AiA wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 10:08am:
That being said, I understand why the NZ PM wore the barbaric headdress -


Barbaric?

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Reply #20 - Mar 18th, 2019 at 10:48am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 10:36am:
AiA wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 10:08am:
That being said, I understand why the NZ PM wore the barbaric headdress -


Barbaric?

https://dcgazette.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/IMG_3780-600x265.jpg


http://wesewretro.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/vintage-headscarf-003.jpg


Was Hepburn wearing a hijab? Is that what you are saying, Gregg?
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Reply #21 - Mar 18th, 2019 at 10:50am
 
AiA wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 10:48am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 10:36am:
AiA wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 10:08am:
That being said, I understand why the NZ PM wore the barbaric headdress -


Barbaric?

https://dcgazette.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/IMG_3780-600x265.jpg


http://wesewretro.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/vintage-headscarf-003.jpg


Was Hepburn wearing a hijab? Is that what you are saying, Gregg?


I'm asking you what is barbaric about a scarf that millions of non-Muslim women have been wearing for centuries.

How does the label you apply to the piece of cloth make it barbaric?

Well?
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Reply #22 - Mar 18th, 2019 at 11:12am
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Mar 17th, 2019 at 11:49pm:
Gordon wrote on Mar 17th, 2019 at 7:57pm:
After seeing the NZ PM wear a hijab in a show support for muzlums, I think it's nice to have a broader view of what wearing a hijab actually means in an Islam dominated society.

Here's Iran.

The videos show members of the public or plain-clothes morality police aggressively confronting or attacking women for defying Iran’s degrading forced hijab laws, in the name of defending “public decency”

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2019/03/iran-pro-government-vigilantes-at...


Gordon is becoming Ozpolitic's foremost expert on Hijabs, FGM, turbans, defecation, Muslim marriages, Yazidi sex slaves, underage marriage,  and last but not least, toilets in Harris Park flats.

The boy has a lot on his porcelain.


And you are not becoming, you actually are, the forum expert on absolutely 'sweet cluck all' ........you're a no mark who should be flushed......
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Reply #23 - Mar 18th, 2019 at 11:35am
 
Frank wrote on Mar 17th, 2019 at 8:30pm:
Ardern wearing a scarf is a dreadful sign of surrender and it's  false, insincere, typical lying politicians'  bs.

As if. PR pricks running the show, politicians like her toeing the Twitter line.
Disgusting.



Wrong.

It is an act of showing respect.

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Reply #24 - Mar 18th, 2019 at 11:40am
 
Arden is all class.

What an exceptional leader.

Australia should be so lucky.
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Reply #25 - Mar 18th, 2019 at 11:41am
 
mothra wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 11:40am:
Arden is all class.

What an exceptional leader.

Australia should be so lucky.


She's a damned good PM.

Makes me miss Gillard.

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Reply #26 - Mar 18th, 2019 at 11:46am
 
AiA wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 10:08am:
Gordon wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 9:50am:
tickleandrose wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 9:46am:
I think the hijab she is wearing is beautiful.  Look at the edges. 


How does the abuse of women who don't cover themselves in Islamic countries sit with you?


It makes me sick. I once knew a Muslim man in Atlanta who was quite stylish and looked like he put a lot of thought and money into his look. Then I met his wife. Well, I couldn't see his wife unless you consider two eyes and two hands a wife.

That being said, I understand why the NZ PM wore the barbaric headdress - for the same reason high-profile women who meet the Pope dress the way they do.

https://cruxnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/84082ec64eb94d183e8cb45ef8195414-...


Some of AiA's best friends are Muslims who congregate at Mullah Gordon's house Chez Gordon.
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Reply #27 - Mar 18th, 2019 at 11:48am
 
Hijab, Burka, they mean the same thing, the uniform of oppression.

Did the NZ PM think of that before she donned the uniform.
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Reply #28 - Mar 18th, 2019 at 11:49am
 
Gordon wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 10:27am:
tickleandrose wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 9:59am:
Gordon wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 9:57am:
tickleandrose wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 9:54am:
Gordon wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 9:50am:
tickleandrose wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 9:46am:
I think the hijab she is wearing is beautiful.  Look at the edges. 


How does the abuse of women who don't cover themselves in Islamic countries sit with you?


Bad, I dont agree with them, and those men who abuse women would hopefully one day bought to justice.   However, if a women choose to wear a hijab, and wanting to cover themselves, then you should also afford the respect as well.   In a word, what other people wear voluntarily, is NONE of your business. 


Do you really think it's voluntary in a system that considered women who don't wear it to be immoral?


Is New Zealand a country where, it is considered to be immoral if women dont cover up? 


The country is irrelevant as they're still part of a religion which would view them as immoral if they don't wear it. To go against it could mean being estranged from their family.



What is barbaric is the act of oppression perpetrated by men (usually) in power in those countries.  A small item of clothing like the hijab can not oppress a living human anymore than an ant can. It is another human being that does the oppression.  And its the act that is deplorable.   By your extension, then all white vans, and guns should be banned as they are being used by terrorists to do violent acts. 

Remember, its the act of oppression that is deplorable.  And you can oppress someone even if you are wearing a bikini.
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Reply #29 - Mar 18th, 2019 at 11:50am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 10:50am:
AiA wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 10:48am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 10:36am:
AiA wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 10:08am:
That being said, I understand why the NZ PM wore the barbaric headdress -


Barbaric?

https://dcgazette.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/IMG_3780-600x265.jpg


http://wesewretro.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/vintage-headscarf-003.jpg


Was Hepburn wearing a hijab? Is that what you are saying, Gregg?


I'm asking you what is barbaric about a scarf that millions of non-Muslim women have been wearing for centuries.

How does the label you apply to the piece of cloth make it barbaric?

Well?


Undecided
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