polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 25
th, 2019 at 2:53pm:
.....When a muslim insists that a supporter of blasphemy should be assaulted, in any other context you wouldn't even blink before agreeing that this is a clear and direct expression of their version of Islam - and then you would milk it for all its worth in your Islam bashing.
You would no doubt link it back to something Muhammad said, or a reference to chapter 9 in the Quran.
Now you want us to believe that maybe such an utterance isn't a representation of their religious beliefs.Mmmmkay FD.
freediver wrote on Apr 25
th, 2019 at 8:25am:
Not sure why you consider this to be inane
Tell me FD, can you think of anything more inane than an ardent Islam critic like yourself speculating that when an Islamist calls for blasphemers and their supporters to be assaulted -
it may not be an expression of their version of Islam?
I'm struggling to be honest.
gandalf,
What kind of person are you ?
i.e. What kind of 'not-a-moslem' are you ?
We are all still, trying to determine this.
You are not an extremist moslem.
But are you, a 'moslem', at all ? [.....i.e. a moslem,
as defined by Allah.]
mothra wrote on Apr 22
nd, 2019 at 7:24pm:
And most Muslims are not Islamic supremacists.
mothra is like gandalf,
She, and he, are not any definable type of a 'moslem'. ....[aka a 'believer'].
gandalf refuses to be defined
by Allah, he refuses to be defined
by the contents of the inerrant Koran, and he refuses to be defined by the example of Allah's perfect example, of a moslem [being Mohammed].
More here.....
mothra didn't address the inconsistencies in her OzPol declarations exposed here [
'I'm not that type of moslem.']....
And gandalf won't address the inconsistencies in his OzPol declarations exposed here [
'I'm not that type of moslem.']....
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http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1555826903/157#157.
ISLAMIC SOURCES....
KILL ALL HYPOCRITES AND BLASPHERMERS
[i.e. those who oppose you, and who do not meet
Allah's high standard of true belief]
"Why should ye be divided into two parties about the Hypocrites? Allah hath upset them for their (evil) deeds. Would ye guide those whom Allah hath thrown out of the Way? For those whom Allah hath thrown out of the Way, never shalt thou find the Way.
They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden).
But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks;-"
Koran 4.88, 89
.
It is lawful, to kill those who refuse to attend the mosque, to pray, ....and who therefore do not meet
Allah's high standard of true belief.....
ISLAMIC LAW TEXT....
"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said,
"I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06
ISLAMIC LAW TEXT....
"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established.
Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110
n.b.
"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."