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Reply #15 - Mar 12th, 2019 at 1:28pm
 
Carl D wrote on Mar 12th, 2019 at 10:12am:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Mar 11th, 2019 at 12:33pm:
Is there a connection to MH370?



I doubt it since Flight MH370 was a Boeing 777 not a 737 and I'm sure any flight control issues with the 777 would have been found and hopefully corrected in the 5 years since MH370 disappeared.

The Boeing 737 has been a very reliable aircraft since it was introduced in the late 1960's. The main problem (until now) was with rudder issues which were eventually found and fixed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737_rudder_issues

But, after 2 very similar crashes in 5 months, I think these new 737 MAX aircraft should be grounded worldwide until the cause is found and corrected.


The question is whether Boeing are implanting software into their aircraft which owners are unaware of.

In the case of MH370, there is still a suspicion that the aircraft may have been subject to loss of pilot control to unauthorized remote control which would also have allowed a 'soft' crash in the sea so that little wreckage was created.

Aircraft owners have no knowledge of what software Boeing is implanting in their aircraft. I doubt that the FAA has detailed knowledge or even cares.

There was speculation that the 9/11 aircraft were under remote control because trainee pilots could not have performed the maneuvers the aircraft were reported to have performed.

If there is indeed a deep state in the USA there are bound to be out-of-control rogues in that environment.
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Reply #16 - Mar 12th, 2019 at 3:13pm
 
At the very least, the Boeing 737 Max is aerodynamically unstable in its design requiring software to compensate for the aerodynamic problems caused by larger engines and their mounting positions.

It probably wouldn't fly without the software or without pilot compensation for the aerodynamic problems.
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Reply #17 - Mar 12th, 2019 at 3:48pm
 
Only one passenger was saved as he is 2-minutes late for his flight.
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Reply #18 - Mar 12th, 2019 at 4:11pm
 
bellamor wrote on Mar 12th, 2019 at 3:48pm:
Only one passenger was saved as he is 2-minutes late for his flight.


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Reply #19 - Mar 12th, 2019 at 4:40pm
 
JollyGreenGiant wrote on Mar 12th, 2019 at 4:11pm:
bellamor wrote on Mar 12th, 2019 at 3:48pm:
Only one passenger was saved as he is 2-minutes late for his flight.


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After he heard the news he turned a little green
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Reply #20 - Mar 12th, 2019 at 4:44pm
 
I'm thinking pilot error

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Reply #21 - Mar 12th, 2019 at 5:14pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Mar 11th, 2019 at 12:33pm:
This is the second crash in similar circumstances

Yes - third world airlines, third world pilots, third world maintenance crews.

Coincidence?  Australian, US, Canadian, Norwegian airlines are not worried - they can safely operate Western technology.





Major U.S. operators that have the 737 MAX in their fleets have stated that they are monitoring the situation via either Boeing or the NTSB, but no official decision has been announced or anticipated regarding a possible suspension of the variant in their scheduling.

Southwest said that the carrier will “remain confident in the safety and airworthiness of our fleet of more than 750 Boeing aircraft.”

The same for American Airlines as they stated, “We have full confidence in the aircraft and our crew members, who are the best and most experienced in the industry.”

Canadian carrier WestJet also expressed its confidence in the model: “WestJet remains confident in the safety of our Boeing 737 fleet including our 13 MAX-8 aircraft first introduced in 2017.”

European-based MAX operators have said that they are confident in the airworthiness of the aircraft: TUI, with a 15-MAX fleet, said, “We have no indication that we can’t operate our 737 MAX in a safe way like we do with all other planes in our network.”

Norwegian followed suit with a statement from Tomas Hesthammer, Director of Flight Operations, saying, “We are in close dialogue with Boeing and follow their and the aviation authorities’ instructions and recommendations.”

At this time, no European operator has taken a grounding measure and the EASA, Europe’s aviation regulator, has made no recommendation for any airline to do so.

https://airlinegeeks.com/2019/03/11/several-737-max-8-operators-begin-to-ground-...
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Reply #22 - Mar 12th, 2019 at 5:24pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 12th, 2019 at 5:14pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Mar 11th, 2019 at 12:33pm:
This is the second crash in similar circumstances

Yes - third world airlines, third world pilots, third world maintenance crews.

Coincidence?  Australian, US, Canadian, Norwegian airlines are not worried - they can safely operate Western technology.





Major U.S. operators that have the 737 MAX in their fleets have stated that they are monitoring the situation via either Boeing or the NTSB, but no official decision has been announced or anticipated regarding a possible suspension of the variant in their scheduling.

Southwest said that the carrier will “remain confident in the safety and airworthiness of our fleet of more than 750 Boeing aircraft.”

The same for American Airlines as they stated, “We have full confidence in the aircraft and our crew members, who are the best and most experienced in the industry.”

Canadian carrier WestJet also expressed its confidence in the model: “WestJet remains confident in the safety of our Boeing 737 fleet including our 13 MAX-8 aircraft first introduced in 2017.”

European-based MAX operators have said that they are confident in the airworthiness of the aircraft: TUI, with a 15-MAX fleet, said, “We have no indication that we can’t operate our 737 MAX in a safe way like we do with all other planes in our network.”

Norwegian followed suit with a statement from Tomas Hesthammer, Director of Flight Operations, saying, “We are in close dialogue with Boeing and follow their and the aviation authorities’ instructions and recommendations.”

At this time, no European operator has taken a grounding measure and the EASA, Europe’s aviation regulator, has made no recommendation for any airline to do so.

https://airlinegeeks.com/2019/03/11/several-737-max-8-operators-begin-to-ground-...


""Coincidence?  Australian, US, Canadian, Norwegian airlines are not worried - they can safely operate Western technology.""

A lack of pilot training resulted in the first crash

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Re: Ethiopia air crash: Boeing 737 a flying coffin
Reply #23 - Mar 12th, 2019 at 5:58pm
 
Valkie wrote on Mar 12th, 2019 at 4:44pm:
I'm thinking pilot error

After all

The darker the skin
The dumber the kin


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Reply #24 - Mar 12th, 2019 at 6:04pm
 
Mary Black wrote on Mar 12th, 2019 at 5:58pm:
Valkie wrote on Mar 12th, 2019 at 4:44pm:
I'm thinking pilot error

After all

The darker the skin
The dumber the kin


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Re: Ethiopia air crash: Boeing 737 a flying coffin
Reply #25 - Mar 12th, 2019 at 6:11pm
 
BigP wrote on Mar 12th, 2019 at 6:04pm:
Mary Black wrote on Mar 12th, 2019 at 5:58pm:
Valkie wrote on Mar 12th, 2019 at 4:44pm:
I'm thinking pilot error

After all

The darker the skin
The dumber the kin


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Cry


and?

Boeing 737 are grounded?

There is a good luck story about a guy who was running late and missed getting on that flight!  Lucky bloke.
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Re: Ethiopia air crash: Boeing 737 a flying coffin
Reply #26 - Mar 12th, 2019 at 8:26pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 12th, 2019 at 5:14pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Mar 11th, 2019 at 12:33pm:
This is the second crash in similar circumstances

Yes - third world airlines, third world pilots, third world maintenance crews.

Coincidence?  Australian, US, Canadian, Norwegian airlines are not worried - they can safely operate Western technology.





Major U.S. operators that have the 737 MAX in their fleets have stated that they are monitoring the situation via either Boeing or the NTSB, but no official decision has been announced or anticipated regarding a possible suspension of the variant in their scheduling.

Southwest said that the carrier will “remain confident in the safety and airworthiness of our fleet of more than 750 Boeing aircraft.”

The same for American Airlines as they stated, “We have full confidence in the aircraft and our crew members, who are the best and most experienced in the industry.”

Canadian carrier WestJet also expressed its confidence in the model: “WestJet remains confident in the safety of our Boeing 737 fleet including our 13 MAX-8 aircraft first introduced in 2017.”

European-based MAX operators have said that they are confident in the airworthiness of the aircraft: TUI, with a 15-MAX fleet, said, “We have no indication that we can’t operate our 737 MAX in a safe way like we do with all other planes in our network.”

Norwegian followed suit with a statement from Tomas Hesthammer, Director of Flight Operations, saying, “We are in close dialogue with Boeing and follow their and the aviation authorities’ instructions and recommendations.”

At this time, no European operator has taken a grounding measure and the EASA, Europe’s aviation regulator, has made no recommendation for any airline to do so.

https://airlinegeeks.com/2019/03/11/several-737-max-8-operators-begin-to-ground-...



Guess again. (Ignorant, racist twerps.)

Oz has now banned all 737 Max *8s  Cool

Australia grounds Boeing's 737 MAX in wake of fatal crashes


Australia's aviation safety authority has banned all Boeing 737 MAX aircraft from flying to or from the country in the wake of two deadly plane crashes involving the brand new aircraft in the past five months.

In what is a major blow for the aerospace giant and an unusual split from American aviation regulators, the Civil Aviation Safety Authority said on Tuesday night that it was in the best interests of safety to ground the jets, operated here currently by Fiji Airways into Adelaide, Sydney, Brisbane and Melbourne.

Singapore's SilkAir also flies 737 MAX 8s into Darwin and Cairns, but was already moving those services onto older planes after Singaporean authorities grounded the MAXs earlier on Tuesday.

“This is a temporary suspension while we wait for more information to review the safety risks of continued operations of the Boeing 737 MAX," said CASA' chief executive and director of aviation safety, Shane Carmody.

https://www.theage.com.au/business/companies/australia-grounds-boeing-s-737-max-...

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Reply #27 - Mar 12th, 2019 at 9:07pm
 
^^^^ As it must be.
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Re: Ethiopia air crash: Boeing 737 a flying coffin
Reply #28 - Mar 12th, 2019 at 9:31pm
 
Caution is the best policy, but it is worth noting that Reuters quoted a witness saying they saw smoke coming from the plane, and debri including person items like clothing coming from the plane before it crashed. That sounds like a bomb in the cargo bay.
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Re: Ethiopia air crash: Boeing 737 a flying coffin
Reply #29 - Mar 12th, 2019 at 10:00pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 12th, 2019 at 8:26pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 12th, 2019 at 5:14pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Mar 11th, 2019 at 12:33pm:
This is the second crash in similar circumstances

Yes - third world airlines, third world pilots, third world maintenance crews.

Coincidence?  Australian, US, Canadian, Norwegian airlines are not worried - they can safely operate Western technology.





Major U.S. operators that have the 737 MAX in their fleets have stated that they are monitoring the situation via either Boeing or the NTSB, but no official decision has been announced or anticipated regarding a possible suspension of the variant in their scheduling.

Southwest said that the carrier will “remain confident in the safety and airworthiness of our fleet of more than 750 Boeing aircraft.”

The same for American Airlines as they stated, “We have full confidence in the aircraft and our crew members, who are the best and most experienced in the industry.”

Canadian carrier WestJet also expressed its confidence in the model: “WestJet remains confident in the safety of our Boeing 737 fleet including our 13 MAX-8 aircraft first introduced in 2017.”

European-based MAX operators have said that they are confident in the airworthiness of the aircraft: TUI, with a 15-MAX fleet, said, “We have no indication that we can’t operate our 737 MAX in a safe way like we do with all other planes in our network.”

Norwegian followed suit with a statement from Tomas Hesthammer, Director of Flight Operations, saying, “We are in close dialogue with Boeing and follow their and the aviation authorities’ instructions and recommendations.”

At this time, no European operator has taken a grounding measure and the EASA, Europe’s aviation regulator, has made no recommendation for any airline to do so.

https://airlinegeeks.com/2019/03/11/several-737-max-8-operators-begin-to-ground-...



Guess again. (Ignorant, racist twerps.)

Oz has now banned all 737 Max *8s  Cool

Australia grounds Boeing's 737 MAX in wake of fatal crashes


Australia's aviation safety authority has banned all Boeing 737 MAX aircraft from flying to or from the country in the wake of two deadly plane crashes involving the brand new aircraft in the past five months.

In what is a major blow for the aerospace giant and an unusual split from American aviation regulators, the Civil Aviation Safety Authority said on Tuesday night that it was in the best interests of safety to ground the jets,
operated here currently by Fiji Airways into Adelaide, Sydney, Brisbane and Melbourne.

Singapore's SilkAir also flies 737 MAX 8s into Darwin and Cairns, but was already moving those services onto older planes after Singaporean authorities grounded the MAXs earlier on Tuesday.

“This is a temporary suspension while we wait for more information to review the safety risks of continued operations of the Boeing 737 MAX," said CASA' chief executive and director of aviation safety, Shane Carmody.

https://www.theage.com.au/business/companies/australia-grounds-boeing-s-737-max-...




For the illiterates like you:

operated here currently by Fiji Airways


You guys are just idiots with no ability to discern anything. Tendentious low brow mongs, the lot of you.


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