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Reply #270 - Mar 14th, 2019 at 10:14pm
 
Spatchcock wrote on Mar 14th, 2019 at 9:47pm:
Gandalf does have a point.

Regardless of the legitimacy of his argument, freediver does act extremely arrogant and condescending and with a level of confidence that is not appropriate to the simplicity of his arguments and demands.

He does not disprove a statement. He asks you to prove a statement. He does not argue. He relies on belittling the intellectual capabilities of his adversity to discredit them to win an argument. No facts or logic or ideas are used.

He has no legitimate reason to act as though he has a superior argument. He has no argument. He argues extremely simple concepts and wants you to assume he is intellectually rigorous.


Excellent analysis.
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Reply #271 - Mar 14th, 2019 at 11:02pm
 
Jasin wrote on Mar 14th, 2019 at 9:52pm:
Spatchcock wrote on Mar 14th, 2019 at 9:47pm:
Gandalf does have a point.

Regardless of the legitimacy of his argument, freediver does act extremely arrogant and condescending and with a level of confidence that is not appropriate to the simplicity of his arguments and demands.

He does not disprove a statement. He asks you to prove a statement. He does not argue. He relies on belittling the intellectual capabilities of his adversity to discredit them to win an argument. No facts or logic or ideas are used.

He has no legitimate reason to act as though he has a superior argument. He has no argument. He argues extremely simple concepts and wants you to assume he is intellectually rigorous.


Now that's a post!
Karnal - you've just been leap-frogged.


Superior culture, innit.
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Reply #272 - Mar 14th, 2019 at 11:04pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 3:47pm:
All you have to do is open your eyes Karnal.

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Reply #273 - Mar 14th, 2019 at 11:24pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 14th, 2019 at 11:04pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 3:47pm:
All you have to do is open your eyes Karnal.



Now that Spatchcock is on the scene. Bet FD wishes he could close his  Cheesy
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #274 - Mar 15th, 2019 at 8:16am
 
FD has now reduced himself entirely to ridiculing his opponent with inane snide digs masquerading as real questions.

Pity. I genuinely hoped that he would make an actual case for once, and we could have had a genuine intellectual debate. Ho hum, you'd think I'd learn wouldn't you?  Undecided
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #275 - Mar 15th, 2019 at 11:11pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 15th, 2019 at 8:16am:
FD has now reduced himself entirely to ridiculing his opponent with inane snide digs masquerading as real questions.

Pity. I genuinely hoped that he would make an actual case for once, and we could have had a genuine intellectual debate. Ho hum, you'd think I'd learn wouldn't you?  Undecided


FD has reached the stage where he's 'too far gone'. He can't backflip on his ideas and beliefs now, because doing so would create such a level of cognitive dissonance that he wouldn't be able to cope in real life.
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