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Individuality is a sin
Feb 19^th, 2019 at 9:32pm

Has anybody ever wondered why the likes of Alex Jones, David Icke and Julian Assange cop crap left, right and centre; declared by the "experts" as mentally ill, sociopaths, frauds, rapists and any evil under the sun?

Meanwhile, beheading is considered heroic in Islam.

Child molesting is covered up, priests rarely ever held accountable for their actions in Catholicism.

Genital mutilation is perfectly acceptable in Judaism.

Tom Cruise can join the Church of Scientology and still get taken seriously.

Buddhism is so great because it encourages people to sit, do nothing, meditate and give zero fuqs about anything while finding a "higher" meaning.

Politicans lie and BS yet hordes of passionate voters still flock to their side and believe in them.

It's because "religious freedom" is only tolerated if it is designed to control a large portion of human minds.

The "free-thinker" (whether logical or conspiraloon nutjob, and anything in between) will always be shunned and silenced because they are closer to "reality" than those operating within the confines of their chosen (or in some cases, not chosen) religious dogma.

This sort of reasoning and thinking has seeped into every aspect of our lives. There is, in nature, no real difference between politics and religion. Politics is a form of religion, both overlapping one another in a sinful rapture.

Religion is the weapon. Politics is the arena.

The only means "free-thinkers" have is to play on the battlefield, as no other battlefields are worthy in the eyes of a controlled sheeple people. Sheeple only have enough consciousness to look to "the stage", which is the stage that those in power put in front of us.

And so the "free-thinker" must enter the arena, instantly falling into the trap of controlled religion. This is how the hippie communist movement happened. You don't need to believe in a "God" to be part of a religion.

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 46487 Gender:	Re: Individuality is a sin Reply #1 - Feb 20^th, 2019 at 12:10am Interesting. To be a well trained horse on a stretch of land that has been domesticated like it has and put to work by the hands of Man in a world of 'Rural' servitude and husbandry. Or to be a wild horse running 'free' in the chaotic world of nature and 'Country' abandon? To serve in Heaven, or reign in Hell??
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Re: Individuality is a sin
Reply #2 - Feb 20^th, 2019 at 9:09am

The Reboot wrote on Feb 19^th, 2019 at 9:32pm:

.....There is, in nature, no real difference between politics and religion.

Politics is a form of religion, both overlapping one another in a sinful rapture.

Religion is the weapon. Politics is the arena.

The only means "free-thinkers" have is to play on the battlefield, as no other battlefields are worthy in the eyes of a controlled sheeple people.

Sheeple only have enough consciousness to look to "the stage", which is the stage that those in power put in front of us.

And so the "free-thinker" must enter the arena, instantly falling into the trap of controlled religion.

This is how the hippie communist movement happened.

You don't need to believe in a "God" to be part of a religion.

So true.

Richdude said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1549526478/31#31
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Its a dangerous World - no one gets out alive.

Many/most of us will learn very quickly, that the world is a dangerous and unpredictable place.

There is no safety.

There is no comfortable and safe place, in this world.

To think that there is, is illusory.

'Its a jungle out there!'

Yet, men and women, wandering, in the 'wilderness' of this world, will continually seek certainty, stability, and safety, even when it means surrendering themselves, to the greater interests of a group.

Religions, and political groups, and all human organisations, promise to make the lives we live here more safe, and more stable, and more certain.

It is a false promise.

But the majority of mankind will always continue to 'gravitate' to, and support those leaders and organisations, who will promise certainty, and safety and prosperity.

This life, this world, is a 'bait and switch' trick.

The world will deceive you.

We, so easily deceive ourselves, by being overwhelmed by all the of the sensual distractions in this place.

This world will deceive you.

Are you being deceived ?

Perhaps you believe, nothing in this life can 'move you', too much ?

After all, you are 'successful', and you have your family, and all of your associations [with others], to protect you from what this world may throw at you ?

James 4:4
.....know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

1 John 2:15
Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

James 4:8
Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you....

But if we choose, to remain 'in the world', choose to be constantly distracted, by the things of world,
how can we ever discover what is real ?

Q.
How does a magician pull off his trick ?

Q.
Why don't those in his audience, see how he does it ?

Where is the 'path' ?

"....Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself."

Q.
How do we love our creator ?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1435998745/0#0

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1435998745/67#67

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Individuality is a sin
Reply #3 - Feb 20^th, 2019 at 9:33am

The Reboot wrote on Feb 19^th, 2019 at 9:32pm:

Has anybody ever wondered why the likes of Alex Jones, David Icke and Julian Assange cop crap left, right and centre; declared by the "experts" as mentally ill, sociopaths, frauds, rapists and any evil under the sun?

Meanwhile, beheading is considered heroic in Islam.

Child molesting is covered up, priests rarely ever held accountable for their actions in Catholicism.

Genital mutilation is perfectly acceptable in Judaism.

Tom Cruise can join the Church of Scientology and still get taken seriously.

Buddhism is so great because it encourages people to sit, do nothing, meditate and give zero fuqs about anything while finding a "higher" meaning.

Politicans lie and BS yet hordes of passionate voters still flock to their side and believe in them.

It's because "religious freedom" is only tolerated if it is designed to control a large portion of human minds.

The "free-thinker" (whether logical or conspiraloon nutjob, and anything in between) will always be shunned and silenced because they are closer to "reality" than those operating within the confines of their chosen (or in some cases, not chosen) religious dogma.

This sort of reasoning and thinking has seeped into every aspect of our lives. There is, in nature, no real difference between politics and religion. Politics is a form of religion, both overlapping one another in a sinful rapture.

Religion is the weapon. Politics is the arena.

The only means "free-thinkers" have is to play on the battlefield, as no other battlefields are worthy in the eyes of a controlled sheeple people. Sheeple only have enough consciousness to look to "the stage", which is the stage that those in power put in front of us.

And so the "free-thinker" must enter the arena, instantly falling into the trap of controlled religion. This is how the hippie communist movement happened. You don't need to believe in a "God" to be part of a religion.

I could take exception to certain points, but given the inadequate nature of the internet as a form of real communication, or expression of meaning, I will just go along with your general style, or lack there of.

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Re: Individuality is a sin
Reply #4 - Feb 20^th, 2019 at 6:20pm

Well it depends on a Nation's 'culture'.
Take the USA for an 'easy' example.

In USA Politics - 'Individuality' is an Empowerment and the most powerful, is the position of President and look at Trump weld it with a hard line that divides him from the Political 'Mass' (Industry) which is the 'Sinner' and being fired, locked out and all sorts.

While in the USA Art world - 'Individuality' is the sin and the group Mass/Industry is the empowerment.

Everything balances out and Australia is the 'reverse' of this.

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Re: Individuality is a sin
Reply #5 - Feb 20^th, 2019 at 7:35pm

issuevoter wrote on Feb 20^th, 2019 at 9:33am:

The Reboot wrote on Feb 19^th, 2019 at 9:32pm:

Has anybody ever wondered why the likes of Alex Jones, David Icke and Julian Assange cop crap left, right and centre; declared by the "experts" as mentally ill, sociopaths, frauds, rapists and any evil under the sun?

Meanwhile, beheading is considered heroic in Islam.

Child molesting is covered up, priests rarely ever held accountable for their actions in Catholicism.

Genital mutilation is perfectly acceptable in Judaism.

Tom Cruise can join the Church of Scientology and still get taken seriously.

Buddhism is so great because it encourages people to sit, do nothing, meditate and give zero fuqs about anything while finding a "higher" meaning.

Politicans lie and BS yet hordes of passionate voters still flock to their side and believe in them.

It's because "religious freedom" is only tolerated if it is designed to control a large portion of human minds.

The "free-thinker" (whether logical or conspiraloon nutjob, and anything in between) will always be shunned and silenced because they are closer to "reality" than those operating within the confines of their chosen (or in some cases, not chosen) religious dogma.

This sort of reasoning and thinking has seeped into every aspect of our lives. There is, in nature, no real difference between politics and religion. Politics is a form of religion, both overlapping one another in a sinful rapture.

Religion is the weapon. Politics is the arena.

The only means "free-thinkers" have is to play on the battlefield, as no other battlefields are worthy in the eyes of a controlled sheeple people. Sheeple only have enough consciousness to look to "the stage", which is the stage that those in power put in front of us.

And so the "free-thinker" must enter the arena, instantly falling into the trap of controlled religion. This is how the hippie communist movement happened. You don't need to believe in a "God" to be part of a religion.

I could take exception to certain points, but given the inadequate nature of the internet as a form of real communication, or expression of meaning, I will just go along with your general style, or lack there of.

Feel free to add your viewpoints.

Jasin wrote on Feb 20^th, 2019 at 6:20pm:

Well it depends on a Nation's 'culture'.
Take the USA for an 'easy' example.

In USA Politics - 'Individuality' is an Empowerment and the most powerful, is the position of President and look at Trump weld it with a hard line that divides him from the Political 'Mass' (Industry) which is the 'Sinner' and being fired, locked out and all sorts.

While in the USA Art world - 'Individuality' is the sin and the group Mass/Industry is the empowerment.

Everything balances out and Australia is the 'reverse' of this.

Trump is a "sell-out". He infiltrated politics and bats for the "conservative" team to stay in power, as with our political system, only two teams can "win".

The "Neo-Nazi right wing" movement (which is often accredited to Trump) is yet another "brick in the wall" (pun not intended Cheesy

), more BS that prevents individuals from free-thinking because it is part of a hive or group-think scenario. That's not to say that the true individuals are unwilling victims; to the contrary. Anybody with half a brain who "sells out" to play the moronic games of our world's Game of Thrones is sacrificing their individuality to "fit in" or "gain success".

Hippies/communists from the 1960's onwards = the fight against old school conservatism and religious dogma, oppression and bigotry.

Neo-Nazism 2016 onwards = the fight against hippies/communists and their religious dogma, oppression and bigotry.

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Re: Individuality is a sin
Reply #6 - Feb 20^th, 2019 at 10:30pm

Individuality is a sin

How so ?

In a typical society, every individual belongs to the 'group' [he/she moves within], and every individual identifies themselves, as being an integral part of the 'group'.

BUT....
Expressing a 'controversial' opinion, which the 'group' does not 'endorse', can see an individual being ostracised,
.....by all those who conform to the current 'GROUPTHINK'.

EXAMPLE;
Swedish Swimming Federation chair resigns after backlash to her statement that veil is “symbol of repression”

By Robert Spencer on Feb 19, 2019
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/02/swedish-swimming-federation-chair-resigns-aft...

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Groupthink

Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an irrational or dysfunctional decision-making outcome.

Group members try to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation of alternative viewpoints by actively suppressing dissenting viewpoints, and by isolating themselves from outside influences.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupthink

Isn't the 'safety' which the group provides, a lovely thing !!

/sarc off

Yadda, one of many 'individuals' who 'stands aside', from the group dystopia.

"For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear;...."

Isaiah 48:17
Thus saith the LORD, thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; I am the LORD thy God which teacheth thee to profit, which leadeth thee by the way that thou shouldest go.
18 O that thou hadst hearkened to my commandments! then had thy peace been as a river, and thy righteousness as the waves of the sea:

2 Corinthians 6:16
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Revelation 18:4
And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

Romans 6:16
Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

"Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him:...."

QUESTION;
Is 'the Spirit of truth', a spirit which always denies and rejects, what is true ?

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Reply #7 - Feb 20^th, 2019 at 10:37pm

I think your use of the word "hippie," is a very bad choice. It doesn't actually mean anything, and I can assure you, from the beginning, it never did. It is used most often by conservatives to describe an appearance of which they disapprove. Only after those people are categorised has there ever been any examination of their ideology, and they never have agreed on anything, let alone communism. If you are going to criticise people by group, you need to specify what unites them. Ask 10 people what a hippie is, and you are likely to get 6 different answers, but they will all focus on appearance first.

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Reply #9 - Feb 21^st, 2019 at 10:06am

Trump is the first of the new Age Politicians.
There are 4 of them that belong to the 'A-Team' and he is not the strongest of the four. Wait until you get a blonde Aryan/Angel true 'white' Male for a President Wink

A Team:
Red Ranga (N.America) ...hence Trump's extreme patriotism.
Brownie (Middle-East)
Greenie (South America)
Whitey (Sahul) ...aka, Australia

Currently the 'Team #1' has been in power for so long and is responsible for the world being out of whack and this is why - they are the 'un-orthodox' team.

Grey (Oceania)
Blackie (Africa)
Yellow (Asia)
Bluey (Europe)

...as you can see, Team #1 doesn't really lend weight to North America for starters. Mr Grey and his 50 Shades of Media kinda keep N.Americans in the dark with more lies and fraud than Trump could ever achieve. Just like Brownie of the Middle-East kept Africa in the dark with his Religion.

So you see that there are 'two Factions'. One is orthodox, but in 2nd place, the other is un-orthodox, but has been in first place.

You must decide which of the two is the more ....political.

Just remember, the World is like an Organism and it too needs a Doctor and like a Human, it too is a complex system of patterns and connections.

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Reply #10 - Feb 21^st, 2019 at 10:14am

Also - the position of President (regardless of who really) is the ONLY position for Individual empowerment in USA society.
If you want 'individualism' - then become the President.
The Art 'individual' is the 'failed' version (the primal sacrifice) and if you want to succeed in Nth American Art - you do it as a 'group', not an individual... unless you want to be the cliche 'suffer for your art' nutcase druggo/alcoholic lost cause.

There's more to it, but it gets complicated.
Just think of a Compass.
North represents: Individual & Power
South represents: Group & Breeding
West represents: Individual & Breeding
East represents: Group & Power

...here the Compass shows the directions of the Celibate (Achiever), the Family (Man), the Romantic (Lover) and the Business (Man).
Turn the Compass a bit for the NW, SW, NE, SE: and you get the Gay, the Redneck, the Wanker and the Yobbo Wink

Regardless, all '8' exist and make the world turn.

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Reply #11 - Feb 21^st, 2019 at 10:49am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 21^st, 2019 at 8:37am:

The Reboot wrote on Feb 19^th, 2019 at 9:32pm:

Has anybody ever wondered why the likes of Alex Jones, David Icke and Julian Assange cop crap left, right and centre; declared by the "experts" as mentally ill, sociopaths, frauds, rapists and any evil under the sun?

If the shoe fits.

Exactly
The only people who call them "free thinkers" are other conspiracy theorists

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The Right Wing only believe in free speech when they agree with what is being said.

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Bias_2012 Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 10306 Gender:	Re: Individuality is a sin Reply #12 - Feb 21^st, 2019 at 2:21pm Out in the bush here you gotta think freely all the the time, there's no one else to think for you If that's sinful, then I'm sinful all day every day
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BigP Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1924 West Auckland Gender:	Re: Individuality is a sin Reply #13 - Feb 21^st, 2019 at 4:17pm Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 21^st, 2019 at 2:21pm: Out in the bush here you gotta think freely all the the time, there's no one else to think for you If that's sinful, then I'm sinful all day every day So when in the city your brain turns to sh1t ?
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Bias_2012 Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 10306 Gender:	Re: Individuality is a sin Reply #14 - Feb 21^st, 2019 at 5:31pm BigP wrote on Feb 21^st, 2019 at 4:17pm: Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 21^st, 2019 at 2:21pm: Out in the bush here you gotta think freely all the the time, there's no one else to think for you If that's sinful, then I'm sinful all day every day So when in the city your brain turns to sh1t ? I'm not in the city, I'm in the bush
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