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Nauru tells Shorten to get stuffed
Feb 19^th, 2019 at 6:31am

Labor's house of grimy cards is about to collapse in a heap after Labor insulted Nauru and then Nauru told them to get stuffed.

Medivac fallback for US-barred refugees
SIMON BENSON JOE KELLY 12:00AM FEBRUARY 19, 2019

Opposition Leader Bill Shorten in Canberra yesterday. Picture: AAP

The US has rejected 265 people from offshore detention for resettlement — either on security grounds or because of a failure to meet refugee criteria — with the Morrison government claiming those passed over could now seek entry to Australia under Bill Shorten’s new medivac laws.

The US rejection emerged as the Opposition Leader’s plan to fast-track refugee medical transfers to Australia was dealt a major blow yesterday, with the Nauruan government confirming it had enacted new laws limiting medical evacuations and banning remote assessments.

The director-general of ASIO, Duncan Lewis, also used a Senate estimates hearing yesterday to sound the alarm on the medivac bill’s 72-hour timeframe in which security checks must be conducted for potential transferees.

“If the person has a different kind of background, where they have come from some place and the records may not be complete, it can take months and months and months,” he said.

“We would typically have to go to second and third countries to test their holdings on the individual, and that takes time … it can be several months.”

Department of Home Affairs secretary Michael Pezzullo went further last night, warning the medivac bill threatened the future of offshore processing. He told Senate estimates that following a review of the legislation last week: “It continued to be our view that this would potentially signal … the effective unravelling of regional processing. It is our judgment that most people (held on Manus Island and Nauru) will come here.”

The government yesterday confirmed that 265 people had received a negative decision by US authorities — amounting to almost a quarter of the 1200 the US agreed to take under the deal agreed with former president Barack Obama and reluctantly confirmed by Donald Trump.

It is understood most were rejected after security checks, with the rest being refused because they did not meet the US requirement for protection. A further 95 had withdrawn from the process.

The government is expected to seize on the US concerns today as further evidence that the medivac bill undermines Australia’s security, with the expectation some of those rejected will seek entry to Australia through medical transfers.

The enactment by Nauru of new laws relating to medical transfers is a direct response to the medivac bill that passed in parliament last week when Labor combined with the Greens and independents to inflict the first defeat over legislation against a government in the House of Representatives in nearly 80 years.

In an assertion of sovereignty by the tiny Pacific Island nation, the new laws effectively outlaw one of the main planks of the new medivac law — championed by independent Kerryn Phelps — by banning medical transfers based on overseas “telemedicine” assessments. Nauru’s Justice Minister, David Adeang, said: “Nauru passes laws in the best interests of Nauru. This is a fundamental right of sovereignty, mutual respect and co-operation.

“We look forward to continuing to work closely with Australia in order to assure security for the Pacific region.”

In a separate statement provided to The Australian, the government of Nauru said its level of medical care had been “praised by international experts who have visited our nation”.

“The only people who are critical are activists and sections of the media who are driven not by facts or objectivity, but by politics and ideology. This law reflects the reality of this high-quality care.”

The Health Practitioners (Overseas Medical Referrals Compliance) regulations 2019 prevents the Nauruan medical referrals committee from approving transfers based on “telemedicine examination or diagnosis”.

This will render useless any doctor consultations conducted by video communication with refugees and asylum-seekers.

Scott Morrison yesterday said Labor had voted for the medivac bill to win a “cheap vote” on the floor of parliament and “play to the Canberra bubble” instead of standing up for strong border-protection policies. He said the Opposition Leader had created a medical justification to achieve the political goal of dismantling offshore processing, noting there was a ratio of one medical professional for every seven people on Nauru.

“The medical professionals are there. The children are off. So what this is about — let’s make no mistake — is about shutting down offshore processing,” the Prime Minister said. “That’s what Labor voted for. They did it with their eyes wide open.”

Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton used question time to attack Mr Shorten for being “weaker” than Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillard “put together” on border protection.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/immigration/medivac-fallback-f...

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Reply #1 - Feb 19^th, 2019 at 6:31am

And some really snorter COMMENTS to make the already squirming Lefties squirm.

Clifford 1 HOUR AGO
It would appear that Ms Phelps, the So-called Independents and the ‘Good old Boys’, (and girls) of the Labor Party, have publicly embarrassed Nauru on the World stage, all in the name of political gamesmanship.
With no kids left on Nauru, one medical practitioner to each seven refugees, it was plainly obvious that the medivac scam was just silly games played by this lot, with no forethought to the effects this would have on the Nauruan people, who have been nothing more than the best of friends to Australia over many years.
If the so called ‘Progressives’ are happy to turn on our neighbors and allies, just to score points at home, then none of them deserve to be in the position of trust, expected of our Leaders.
The really sad part is, these boat people are only caught up in our system, due to the interference of these same ‘Progressives ‘ that changed the laws and restarted the boat trade, which resulted in over 1200 deaths at sea.
Shame!

Phillip 1 HOUR AGO
What absolute mess Shorten has made of this, what a complete embarrassment.

mary 2 HOURS AGO
The Medevac legislation to dismantle off shore detention, pursued by the Greens, one shot Independents and by Labor whose main interest is to score a cheap shot at the Government, is based on an an outright lie. That lie is that medical services are not available on Nauru. Well, just how available have these denizens of fairness and equity made the availability of medical services for Australian citizens? There is a ready answer to be found in the Canberra Tines of April 18, 2018, headed ‘Hidden Data Shows Patients Can Wait 5 Years to See a Specialist”. Here is the link, it makes for very interesting reading:

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/politics/act/hidden-data-shows-patients-can-wait-five-years-to-see-a-specialist-20180424-p4zbeh.html

My own very recent experience seeking specialist treatment for a malignant lesion was a 2 month wait. One particular surgeon’s receptionist blithely informed me that ‘our books are closed to lesions’!

I have private medical insurance and live in the National Capital. How do my fellow Australians get on who live in regional Australia, have no private medical insurance and are without the means to pay?

Perusal of the above article will enlighten readers as to the answer to that question - they don’t. Treatment in my case would be available immediately and for free, even by Skype, until the Nauruan Government very sensibly sought to close that loophole, if I was on Nauru. As it would for any other Australian now on a waiting list for medical treatment.

Oh what a privileged group of people illegal immigrants on Nauru are in comparison to Australian citizens. Who are forced to pay for the largesse Labor, the Greens and Dr Phelps believe necessary, yet do not themselves receive. Rise up people. We do not have to receive second class medical treatment when non-citizens, here illegally, march to the head of the queues.

Neil 43 MINUTES AGO
Yes and if you could somehow get yourself to Nauru, you would receive immediate free and world class medical care. Perhaps that is what is needed, a boatload of Australian asylum seekers headed for Nauru.

Martin 1 HOUR AGO
Thanks Bill,Tanya and Karyn, to be so unintelligent that you couldn’t see this happening is amazing.

David 1 HOUR AGO
Clueless Phelps and clueless Shorten are putting us in danger. This is unacceptable.

Michael 1 HOUR AGO
Betcha Bill & Karen didn't see that one coming from the Nauruan Government !

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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Nauru tells Shorten to get stuffed Reply #3 - Feb 20^th, 2019 at 1:35pm Nauru can see exactly what is going on and they don't appreciate being played by the 'Union Organiser'
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 131547 Gender:	Re: Nauru tells Shorten to get stuffed Reply #4 - Feb 20^th, 2019 at 1:38pm red baron wrote on Feb 20^th, 2019 at 1:35pm: Nauru can see exactly what is going on and they don't appreciate being played by the 'Union Organiser' Perhaps you could tell us exactly what that is, red. What's going on?
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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Nauru tells Shorten to get stuffed Reply #5 - Feb 20^th, 2019 at 1:49pm What is about Juliar's article that you can't understand Gregg? Seems pretty clear to me that Nauru have given Short Arse the bird
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 131547 Gender:	Re: Nauru tells Shorten to get stuffed Reply #6 - Feb 20^th, 2019 at 2:10pm red baron wrote on Feb 20^th, 2019 at 1:49pm: What is about Juliar's article that you can't understand Gregg? Seems pretty clear to me that Nauru have given Short Arse the bird red, I mean no offence by this but, are you on some sort of medication?
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72268 Gender:	Re: Nauru tells Shorten to get stuffed Reply #7 - Feb 20^th, 2019 at 2:41pm juliar wrote on Feb 19^th, 2019 at 6:31am: with the Morrison government claiming those passed over could now seek entry to Australia under Bill Shorten’s new medivac laws. when will the libs learn to first read the bills before they vote on them.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72268 Gender:	Re: Nauru tells Shorten to get stuffed Reply #8 - Feb 20^th, 2019 at 2:42pm red baron wrote on Feb 20^th, 2019 at 1:49pm: What is about Juliar's article that you can't understand Gregg? Seems pretty clear to me that Nauru have given Short Arse the bird whats it got to do with shorten you boofhead? The libs are in govt.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 131547 Gender:	Re: Nauru tells Shorten to get stuffed Reply #9 - Feb 20^th, 2019 at 2:46pm
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Reply #10 - Feb 20^th, 2019 at 3:04pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 20^th, 2019 at 2:41pm:

juliar wrote on Feb 19^th, 2019 at 6:31am:

with the Morrison government claiming those passed over could now seek entry to Australia under Bill Shorten’s new medivac laws.

when will the libs learn to first read the bills before they vote on them. Roll Eyes

When will labor greens and that former leader of the doctors union read the bills they write or was it their intention to allow healthy people to come here with that bill?

That stupid bill allows all the country shopping economic migrants as Bob Carr called them to come here even if they're healthy.

The leftists dim wits cannot dispute this source asking questions on that bill allowing anyone on anus island or Nauru to come here.

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Reply #11 - Feb 20^th, 2019 at 3:21pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 20^th, 2019 at 3:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 20^th, 2019 at 2:41pm:

juliar wrote on Feb 19^th, 2019 at 6:31am:

with the Morrison government claiming those passed over could now seek entry to Australia under Bill Shorten’s new medivac laws.

when will the libs learn to first read the bills before they vote on them. Roll Eyes

When will labor greens and that former leader of the doctors union read the bills they write or was it their intention to allow healthy people to come here with that bill?

That stupid bill allows all the country shopping economic migrants as Bob Carr called them to come here even if they're healthy.

The leftists dim wits cannot dispute this source asking questions on that bill allowing anyone on anus island or Nauru to come here.

Bullshit deleted.

"This motion accepts the amendments from the Senate and it seeks, firstly, to enhance the security requirements, broadening them to ensure that the minister can deny a transfer not just on national security grounds but also in the case of serious criminality, removing any doubt that the minister has the power to keep criminals out of Australia.

"Secondly, we are extending the time frame for the government to refuse a transfer, to ensure that agencies and medical professionals have enough time to consider complex cases, to have their advice heard and to ensure that the minister has enough time to make an informed decision.

"Thirdly, and perhaps arguably most importantly, our amendments will ensure that this legislation only applies to a fixed number of people who are already in regional processing. It is not prospective. It currently deals only with the people currently in Australia's care."

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Reply #12 - Feb 20^th, 2019 at 3:24pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 20^th, 2019 at 3:04pm:

That stupid bill allows all the country shopping economic migrants as Bob Carr called them to come here even if they're healthy.

what a load of rubbish. There is something about allowing someone to accompany them whilst they get their medical treatment, but no one gets to stay here. Once treatment is over they both go back.

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #13 - Feb 20^th, 2019 at 3:30pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 20^th, 2019 at 3:24pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 20^th, 2019 at 3:04pm:

That stupid bill allows all the country shopping economic migrants as Bob Carr called them to come here even if they're healthy.

what a load of rubbish. There is something about allowing someone to accompany them whilst they get their medical treatment, but no one gets to stay here. Once treatment is over they both go back.

Some people just can't read plain English.

Especially 'barons'.

"This bill seeks to amend the Migration Act 1958 to require the temporary transfer of transitory persons on Manus Island or Nauru, and their families, to Australia if they are assessed by two or more treating doctors as requiring medical treatment.

"It also requires the temporary transfer of children and their families from offshore detention to Australia for the purpose of medical or psychiatric assessment."

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 131547 Gender:	Re: Nauru tells Shorten to get stuffed Reply #14 - Feb 20^th, 2019 at 3:34pm Easy to see why the coalition and their supporters don't like the bill. "This bill* is compatible with human rights because it strengthens human rights."* That's like garlic to a vampire.
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