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Feb 9th, 2019 at 8:36pm
 
IF you’d thought that so much of this talk about desperate asylum seekers on Nauru and Manus is just cover for a racket, you’d be right, at least for some of them.

Last week it transpired that 71 of the boat people on Nauru have refused an offer of resettlement in the US. These are people who have been found to be refugees with a “well-founded fear of persecution” in their homeland, and they’ve been on Nauru for five years already.

Yet they’ve knocked back America. If Nauru is the hellhole of rampant, suicide-inducing mental illness that the refugee activists claim, why would 71 boat people refuse to go to the “land of the free”?

These are refugees who supposedly can’t go back home. They’ve been stuck on this supposed prison island for five years (although I’ve been there, and I dispute it’s anything like how it gets described in the media here, mostly by people who’ve never set a foot on the place); yet they say no to the US? For people who are allegedly desperate, they’re incredibly picky about which safe, new, First World country they’ll accept.

There are millions of people languishing in refugee camps, particularly vulnerable women and children, who would grab the chance of life in America — but not these 71.

Apparently, these refugees knocked back the US when they heard they would have to work and would not receive welfare. They’re not even economic migrants; they’re welfare migrants, forum shopping for best taxpayer-funded lifestyle.

And this is precisely why the Morrison government needs to be very careful about giving in to the bleeding-heart lobby and bringing all the boat people with children to Australia. Once they’re here, refugee activists and their lawyers will make it impossible for them to go back to Nauru. Sort out medical issues, of course; allow it to be a backdoor entry ruse, no way!

To date, 46 babies have been born in Nauru and what you don’t want is the unintended consequence of children being used as an immigration bargaining chip, or loaded on to leaky boats in the first place.

Last week we had another glimpse into how courts and tribunals are being manipulated to get around our immigration rules, but it wasn’t for people who’d risked their lives to come to Australia in leaky boats.

Instead, it was confirmed that more than 200 Commonwealth Games athletes and officials (mostly from African countries) have applied for asylum in Australia. Their country thought highly enough of them to send them abroad as sports ambassadors but now they’re saying that they can’t go back because of fear of persecution. And as usual, our system is accommodating them.

After their initial applications were refused, 184 of them are appealing the decision and, like the boat people on Nauru and Manus, they’re largely being sustained by you the taxpayer.

So far $300,000 has been spent on legal aid and $1.3 million keeping them in detention or supporting them in the community. And there’ll be millions and millions more spent, before these cases are dealt with.

Our system is absurdly generous. Yes, we are a decent country where people are given a fair go. But when boat people in Australia’s care knock back America because they can’t go on welfare and Commonwealth Games athletes milk the system to stay in Australia, we are being taken for a ride. At least Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton and Attorney-General Christian Porter have now commissioned ex-High Court judge Ian Callinan to review the administrative appeals system to stop it from being gamed.

The basic problem, though, is that all of our systems are set up to give the bad guy the benefit of the doubt. No one wants Australia to stop being Australian, and to lose that easygoing generosity of spirit and welcome for people who come here to have a go and join the team. But we really must get better at sorting out the sheep from the goats. And it shouldn’t take small armies of taxpayer-funded lawyers to do it.

Right now, our court system has immigration appeals listed right out until 2021. It’s not good that people won’t have their cases heard for three years; but it’s even worse that immigration applicants don’t mind, because they’re looked after by the taxpayer in the meantime, and have opportunities to get married, have children and otherwise make it harder and harder for them to be sent back.

If it’s time to clear the offshore processing centres, it’s also time to change the definition of who can claim asylum and who is a refugee. At the very least, if you’ve come here under false pretences, or if you’ve skipped through several countries before landing in Australia, you’re not an asylum seeker and you can’t be a refugee; you’re a would-be economic migrant and should be sent straight back home. It is fair enough to want to live here, who wouldn’t? But apply like thousands of other people do and come through the front door.

Activists are keen to bring asylum seekers with children from Nauru to Australia, but Scott Morrison’s government must be cautious of lobbyists wanting to help them get around immigration rules
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Reply #1 - Feb 9th, 2019 at 8:53pm
 
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Reply #2 - Feb 10th, 2019 at 12:34am
 
Setanta wrote on Feb 9th, 2019 at 8:53pm:
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Reply #3 - Feb 10th, 2019 at 8:04am
 
Setanta wrote on Feb 9th, 2019 at 8:53pm:
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https://www.google.com/search?biw=1024&bih=514&ei=1kZfXMO4DszhvASgupNY&q=Last+we...
there u go set... sunday mail and daily telegraph... im not a subscriber cant get in …..
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Reply #4 - Feb 10th, 2019 at 8:34am
 
America is prolly worse than nauru

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Reply #5 - Feb 10th, 2019 at 8:57am
 
These people are refugees and have connections with community in Australia, and the US program involves taking men first, wife and families are left behind....perhaps to be brought out to the US later, one doesn't know....don't credit a dog whistling newspaper to give a full account.

The idealistic notion that the US is the greatest nation on earth is hogwash, the USA is and can be a cruel uncaring place for big % of the population and Australia is fast going down that path under neoliberal ideology.

Modern refugee problem started in WW2 where Jewish refugees were treated harshly by hostile western countries pushed back to Germany to die.

Then because of that situation UN refugee policies/laws were changed so that asylum seekers can choose the country where they can feel safe.....passing through many countries to say get to Australia as an ideal place to hang out...cannot blame them if given a choice.

Possible solution change the UN laws so its the first country of safety not one of choice...and give aid to those first countries, increase the refugee intake from camps and let it be known where those camps are so people can join a queue.



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Reply #6 - Feb 10th, 2019 at 11:31am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 8:34am:
America is prolly worse than nauru

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They don't have cradle to the grave welfare in the USA, no dept of housing so if you want to bludge on taxpayers the USA would not be your best choice.

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Reports some refugees resettled in US want to return to Nauru


They spent up to five years trying to get off Nauru, but now it seems that some of the refugees who've been resettled in the United States want to return to the Pacific Island.

Around 300 refugees have been resettled from Nauru under a refugee swap deal between the US and Australian governments.
The President of Nauru says he's now had requests from up to forty refugees in the US wanting to come back to the island nation.

https://www.abc.net.au/radio/programs/pm/reports-some-refugees-resettled-in-us-w...




Bob Carr did call these boat people economic migrants.   Smiley
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Reply #7 - Feb 11th, 2019 at 12:42pm
 
Pedro Curevo wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 8:57am:
These people are refugees and have connections with community in Australia, and the US program involves taking men first, wife and families are left behind....perhaps to be brought out to the US later, one doesn't know....don't credit a dog whistling newspaper to give a full account.

The idealistic notion that the US is the greatest nation on earth is hogwash, the USA is and can be a cruel uncaring place for big % of the population and Australia is fast going down that path under neoliberal ideology.

Modern refugee problem started in WW2 where Jewish refugees were treated harshly by hostile western countries pushed back to Germany to die.

Then because of that situation UN refugee policies/laws were changed so that asylum seekers can choose the country where they can feel safe.....passing through many countries to say get to Australia as an ideal place to hang out...cannot blame them if given a choice.

Possible solution change the UN laws so its the first country of safety not one of choice...and give aid to those first countries, increase the refugee intake from camps and let it be known where those camps are so people can join a queue.





I'll definitely highlight that insightful point!

It's a waiting game for the ALP to get back into power too.
They all know that once ALP is in power there will be an automatic 'rescue' service to fly them into Australia.
It will be seen all around the world and a slap in the face to USA President Trump's "Build a Wall" policy to Mexican illegal immigration.
The Boats will be flooding in again like a brand new economic business opportunity on 'smuggling' - just like Britain 'smuggled' its people here 222 odd years ago.

Many in this country will not tolerate this 'invasion' of poverty (like an infection itself invading the body system and laying us low) infecting our shorelines.
But with the ALP set in power... the only option will be VIOLENCE taken to these people.

Here comes the PIRACY attack upon our Ship!
Our Captain has ordered us right into a Trap.

Oldest trick in the book. Pirate establishes Captaincy of Trading Ship and orders it at sea to sail right into the hands of his fellow Pirates. Crew are slain (toyed with at first) and Pirate gets his cut'lass of the cargo.
Every Pirate had to achieve such, an initiation of being a real Pirate of any standing other than a Captain.
Nantucket and other places would be rife with the odd 'treacherous' Pirate Sailor applicating for a position as Captain.
Some Pirates weren't qualified enough to know how to 'steer' a ship and its crew, so their best effort to gain a ship by deceit was to cause 'Mutiny' to take control of the ship and woe to the crew that helps him mutiny the Trade Ship! For they too are taken for the ride. Taking a ship by Mutiny by coercion of the Crew to rise up, was afforded the Pirate a higher standing in Piracy than those that take a ship by position of Captaining from within.
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