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Reply #15 - Feb 6^th, 2019 at 7:25am

matty wrote on Feb 5^th, 2019 at 11:40pm:

How she can name something that doesn’t exist? Politics is robust. I am NO fan of the Liberal party, but I am not going to believe in something with not a shred of evidence.

Funny how the lefties on this thread just take it as a given that it must have happened. If it were Labor you would be demanding proof, but when it comes to the Libs no evidence required.

Julia Banks and Kelly O'Dwyer made the claim dickhead....Who are we to believe you or them....So what evidence do you require to accept anything negative about the Liberal Party???

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https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/sep/03/i-will-name-names-on-bull...

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Re: Julia Banks Refuses To Name Liberal Bullies
Reply #16 - Feb 6^th, 2019 at 7:46am

matty wrote on Feb 5^th, 2019 at 11:40pm:

How she can name something that doesn’t exist? Politics is robust. I am NO fan of the Liberal party, but I am not going to believe in something with not a shred of evidence.

Do you have any proof that it did not happen? Hmm? Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

matty wrote on Feb 5^th, 2019 at 11:40pm:

Funny how the lefties on this thread just take it as a given that it must have happened. If it were Labor you would be demanding proof, but when it comes to the Libs no evidence required.

Most likely, Banks isn't naming names because she's not protected by parliamentary privilege.

And you're not one to talk about different standards of proof. You're well known for whining about "the left" without any evidence at all. That's hypocrisy.

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Re: Julia Banks Refuses To Name Liberal Bullies
Reply #17 - Feb 6^th, 2019 at 8:28am

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 6^th, 2019 at 7:25am:

matty wrote on Feb 5^th, 2019 at 11:40pm:

How she can name something that doesn’t exist? Politics is robust. I am NO fan of the Liberal party, but I am not going to believe in something with not a shred of evidence.

Funny how the lefties on this thread just take it as a given that it must have happened. If it were Labor you would be demanding proof, but when it comes to the Libs no evidence required.

Julia Banks and Kelly O'Dwyer made the claim dickhead....Who are we to believe you or them....So what evidence do you require to accept anything negative about the Liberal Party???

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https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/sep/03/i-will-name-names-on-bull...

Believe nobody.... without evidence.... them's the rules. That kind of manipulation is part and parcel of party politics.... Ban The Parties! why do you imagine they have Party Whips and such, who keep the members 'in line'...?

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Re: Julia Banks Refuses To Name Liberal Bullies
Reply #18 - Feb 6^th, 2019 at 8:53am

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 6^th, 2019 at 7:25am:

matty wrote on Feb 5^th, 2019 at 11:40pm:

How she can name something that doesn’t exist? Politics is robust. I am NO fan of the Liberal party, but I am not going to believe in something with not a shred of evidence.

Funny how the lefties on this thread just take it as a given that it must have happened. If it were Labor you would be demanding proof, but when it comes to the Libs no evidence required.

Julia Banks and Kelly O'Dwyer made the claim dickhead....Who are we to believe you or them....So what evidence do you require to accept anything negative about the Liberal Party???

Roll Eyes

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/sep/03/i-will-name-names-on-bull...

Oh I didn’t know that. Well now that changes everything dimwit - if those two said it, then it mus just simply be true. Evidence and proof be damned.

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Re: Julia Banks Refuses To Name Liberal Bullies
Reply #19 - Feb 6^th, 2019 at 8:56am

Bam wrote on Feb 6^th, 2019 at 7:46am:

matty wrote on Feb 5^th, 2019 at 11:40pm:

How she can name something that doesn’t exist? Politics is robust. I am NO fan of the Liberal party, but I am not going to believe in something with not a shred of evidence.

Do you have any proof that it did not happen? Hmm? Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

matty wrote on Feb 5^th, 2019 at 11:40pm:

Funny how the lefties on this thread just take it as a given that it must have happened. If it were Labor you would be demanding proof, but when it comes to the Libs no evidence required.

Most likely, Banks isn't naming names because she's not protected by parliamentary privilege.

And you're not one to talk about different standards of proof. You're well known for whining about "the left" without any evidence at all. That's hypocrisy.

How do you prove a negative? Do you have any proof that Bill Shorten didn’t rape someone?

Everything that I have said about the left has been based on facts. If you disagree then provide facts otherwise.

And be honest, if the shoe were on the other foot would you be taking a shower gospel that the same thing was happening in Labor? Or would you be demanding proof?

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Re: Julia Banks Refuses To Name Liberal Bullies
Reply #20 - Feb 6^th, 2019 at 9:09am

matty wrote on Feb 6^th, 2019 at 8:53am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 6^th, 2019 at 7:25am:

matty wrote on Feb 5^th, 2019 at 11:40pm:

How she can name something that doesn’t exist? Politics is robust. I am NO fan of the Liberal party, but I am not going to believe in something with not a shred of evidence.

Funny how the lefties on this thread just take it as a given that it must have happened. If it were Labor you would be demanding proof, but when it comes to the Libs no evidence required.

Julia Banks and Kelly O'Dwyer made the claim dickhead....Who are we to believe you or them....So what evidence do you require to accept anything negative about the Liberal Party???

Roll Eyes

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/sep/03/i-will-name-names-on-bull...

Oh I didn’t know that. Well now that changes everything dimwit - if those two said it, then it mus just simply be true. Evidence and proof be damned.

So you are claiming these Liberal woman are bald faced liars....Were is your evidence to make such a claim against these woman dickhead???

Huh

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Re: Julia Banks Refuses To Name Liberal Bullies
Reply #21 - Feb 6^th, 2019 at 9:11am

matty wrote on Feb 6^th, 2019 at 8:56am:

Bam wrote on Feb 6^th, 2019 at 7:46am:

matty wrote on Feb 5^th, 2019 at 11:40pm:

How she can name something that doesn’t exist? Politics is robust. I am NO fan of the Liberal party, but I am not going to believe in something with not a shred of evidence.

Do you have any proof that it did not happen? Hmm? Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

matty wrote on Feb 5^th, 2019 at 11:40pm:

Funny how the lefties on this thread just take it as a given that it must have happened. If it were Labor you would be demanding proof, but when it comes to the Libs no evidence required.

Most likely, Banks isn't naming names because she's not protected by parliamentary privilege.

And you're not one to talk about different standards of proof. You're well known for whining about "the left" without any evidence at all. That's hypocrisy.

How do you prove a negative? Do you have any proof that Bill Shorten didn’t rape someone?

Everything that I have said about the left has been based on facts. If you disagree then provide facts otherwise.

And be honest, if the shoe were on the other foot would you be taking a shower gospel that the same thing was happening in Labor? Or would you be demanding proof?

So you do not believe Emma Husar's staff's claim that she bullied them....The right need to apologize to Emma for feeding these baseless allegations???

Huh

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Re: Julia Banks Refuses To Name Liberal Bullies
Reply #22 - Feb 6^th, 2019 at 11:42am

matty wrote on Feb 6^th, 2019 at 8:56am:

Everything that I have said about the left has been based on facts. If you disagree then provide facts otherwise.

You don't know the difference between facts and opinion. Nor do you understand that collective responsibility for the alleged actions of individuals doesn't exist. You're making up a broad group of people, calling them vaguely "the left" without definition, demanding this vague group has to accept collective responsibility for some alleged actions of a few, and refusing to see why this compositional argument is fallacious.

That's why your "facts" are baseless rubbish.

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Re: Julia Banks Refuses To Name Liberal Bullies
Reply #23 - Feb 6^th, 2019 at 11:47am

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 6^th, 2019 at 9:09am:

matty wrote on Feb 6^th, 2019 at 8:53am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 6^th, 2019 at 7:25am:

matty wrote on Feb 5^th, 2019 at 11:40pm:

How she can name something that doesn’t exist? Politics is robust. I am NO fan of the Liberal party, but I am not going to believe in something with not a shred of evidence.

Funny how the lefties on this thread just take it as a given that it must have happened. If it were Labor you would be demanding proof, but when it comes to the Libs no evidence required.

Julia Banks and Kelly O'Dwyer made the claim dickhead....Who are we to believe you or them....So what evidence do you require to accept anything negative about the Liberal Party???

Roll Eyes

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/sep/03/i-will-name-names-on-bull...

Oh I didn’t know that. Well now that changes everything dimwit - if those two said it, then it mus just simply be true. Evidence and proof be damned.

So you are claiming these Liberal woman are bald faced liars....Were is your evidence to make such a claim against these woman dickhead???

Huh

Again, how do you prove a negative, dimwit? I am saying that they are the ones making allegations of bullying, therefore the onus of proof is on the. So far they have not produced a single shred of evidence.

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Re: Julia Banks Refuses To Name Liberal Bullies
Reply #24 - Feb 6^th, 2019 at 11:48am

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 6^th, 2019 at 9:11am:

matty wrote on Feb 6^th, 2019 at 8:56am:

Bam wrote on Feb 6^th, 2019 at 7:46am:

matty wrote on Feb 5^th, 2019 at 11:40pm:

How she can name something that doesn’t exist? Politics is robust. I am NO fan of the Liberal party, but I am not going to believe in something with not a shred of evidence.

Do you have any proof that it did not happen? Hmm? Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

matty wrote on Feb 5^th, 2019 at 11:40pm:

Funny how the lefties on this thread just take it as a given that it must have happened. If it were Labor you would be demanding proof, but when it comes to the Libs no evidence required.

Most likely, Banks isn't naming names because she's not protected by parliamentary privilege.

And you're not one to talk about different standards of proof. You're well known for whining about "the left" without any evidence at all. That's hypocrisy.

How do you prove a negative? Do you have any proof that Bill Shorten didn’t rape someone?

Everything that I have said about the left has been based on facts. If you disagree then provide facts otherwise.

And be honest, if the shoe were on the other foot would you be taking a shower gospel that the same thing was happening in Labor? Or would you be demanding proof?

So you do not believe Emma Husar's staff's claim that she bullied them....The right need to apologize to Emma for feeding these baseless allegations???

Huh

Didn’t Labor’s internal investigation find that there was mistreatment? And there was actually a photograph of one of her staffers picking up dog poo.

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Re: Julia Banks Refuses To Name Liberal Bullies
Reply #25 - Feb 6^th, 2019 at 11:50am

Bam wrote on Feb 6^th, 2019 at 11:42am:

matty wrote on Feb 6^th, 2019 at 8:56am:

Everything that I have said about the left has been based on facts. If you disagree then provide facts otherwise.

You don't know the difference between facts and opinion. Nor do you understand that collective responsibility for the alleged actions of individuals doesn't exist. You're making up a broad group of people, calling them vaguely "the left" without definition, demanding this vague group has to accept collective responsibility for some alleged actions of a few, and refusing to see why this compositional argument is fallacious.

That's why your "facts" are baseless rubbish.

As always, you have gone off on a tangent because you couldn’t address my actual questions.

I answered yours so if you don’t have the courtesy to do likewise then I will just ignore you.

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Re: Julia Banks Refuses To Name Liberal Bullies
Reply #26 - Feb 6^th, 2019 at 4:35pm

matty wrote on Feb 6^th, 2019 at 11:47am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 6^th, 2019 at 9:09am:

matty wrote on Feb 6^th, 2019 at 8:53am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 6^th, 2019 at 7:25am:

matty wrote on Feb 5^th, 2019 at 11:40pm:

How she can name something that doesn’t exist? Politics is robust. I am NO fan of the Liberal party, but I am not going to believe in something with not a shred of evidence.

Funny how the lefties on this thread just take it as a given that it must have happened. If it were Labor you would be demanding proof, but when it comes to the Libs no evidence required.

Julia Banks and Kelly O'Dwyer made the claim dickhead....Who are we to believe you or them....So what evidence do you require to accept anything negative about the Liberal Party???

Roll Eyes

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/sep/03/i-will-name-names-on-bull...

Oh I didn’t know that. Well now that changes everything dimwit - if those two said it, then it mus just simply be true. Evidence and proof be damned.

So you are claiming these Liberal woman are bald faced liars....Were is your evidence to make such a claim against these woman dickhead???

Huh

Again, how do you prove a negative, dimwit? I am saying that they are the ones making allegations of bullying, therefore the onus of proof is on the. So far they have not produced a single shred of evidence.

So you are calling these Liberal woman liars....They clearly claimed there was bullying and you claim the allegations are baseless based on what???

Malcolm Turnbull is a liar as well is he???

Quote:

A DEFIANT Malcolm Turnbull has taken aim at Peter Dutton’s supporters, saying he has been subject to “bullying and intimidation” within his own party.

In a press conference this afternoon, the embattled Prime Minister took a dig at a “minority” of Liberals, supported by vocal outsiders, criticising their methods in trying to unseat him as leader.

“A minority in the party room supported by others outside the parliament have sought to bully, intimidate others into making this change of leadership that they’re seeking,” Mr Turnbull said.

“It’s been described by many people — including those who feel they cannot resist it — as a form of madness.”

Is that proof enough dickhead???

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https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/turnbull-calls-out-dutton-camps-bul...

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Re: Julia Banks Refuses To Name Liberal Bullies
Reply #27 - Feb 6^th, 2019 at 4:42pm

matty wrote on Feb 6^th, 2019 at 11:48am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 6^th, 2019 at 9:11am:

matty wrote on Feb 6^th, 2019 at 8:56am:

Bam wrote on Feb 6^th, 2019 at 7:46am:

matty wrote on Feb 5^th, 2019 at 11:40pm:

How she can name something that doesn’t exist? Politics is robust. I am NO fan of the Liberal party, but I am not going to believe in something with not a shred of evidence.

Do you have any proof that it did not happen? Hmm? Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

matty wrote on Feb 5^th, 2019 at 11:40pm:

Funny how the lefties on this thread just take it as a given that it must have happened. If it were Labor you would be demanding proof, but when it comes to the Libs no evidence required.

Most likely, Banks isn't naming names because she's not protected by parliamentary privilege.

And you're not one to talk about different standards of proof. You're well known for whining about "the left" without any evidence at all. That's hypocrisy.

How do you prove a negative? Do you have any proof that Bill Shorten didn’t rape someone?

Everything that I have said about the left has been based on facts. If you disagree then provide facts otherwise.

And be honest, if the shoe were on the other foot would you be taking a shower gospel that the same thing was happening in Labor? Or would you be demanding proof?

So you do not believe Emma Husar's staff's claim that she bullied them....The right need to apologize to Emma for feeding these baseless allegations???

Huh

Didn’t Labor’s internal investigation find that there was mistreatment? And there was actually a photograph of one of her staffers picking up dog poo.

No....You should apologise for peddling these false allegations....You have no idea do you???

Quote:

An investigation cleared the Lindsay MP of a range of allegations on Friday, finding there was no basis for her to resign from Parliament.

https://www.afr.com/news/politics/labor-investigation-no-basis-for-mp-emma-husar...

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Re: Julia Banks Refuses To Name Liberal Bullies
Reply #28 - Feb 6^th, 2019 at 7:23pm

matty wrote on Feb 6^th, 2019 at 11:50am:

Bam wrote on Feb 6^th, 2019 at 11:42am:

matty wrote on Feb 6^th, 2019 at 8:56am:

Everything that I have said about the left has been based on facts. If you disagree then provide facts otherwise.

You don't know the difference between facts and opinion. Nor do you understand that collective responsibility for the alleged actions of individuals doesn't exist. You're making up a broad group of people, calling them vaguely "the left" without definition, demanding this vague group has to accept collective responsibility for some alleged actions of a few, and refusing to see why this compositional argument is fallacious.

That's why your "facts" are baseless rubbish.

As always, you have gone off on a tangent because you couldn’t address my actual questions.

I answered yours so if you don’t have the courtesy to do likewise then I will just ignore you.

Why should I waste time addressing questions based on lies and fallacies when you don't even know the difference between fact and opinion?

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Re: Julia Banks Refuses To Name Liberal Bullies
Reply #29 - Feb 6^th, 2019 at 7:42pm

matty wrote on Feb 5^th, 2019 at 11:40pm:

How she can name something that doesn’t exist? Politics is robust. I am NO fan of the Liberal party, but I am not going to believe in something with not a shred of evidence.

Funny how the lefties on this thread just take it as a given that it must have happened. If it were Labor you would be demanding proof, but when it comes to the Libs no evidence required.

So who comes first on the very last on your below the line voting -> Coalition or ALP?

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