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Reply #165 - Feb 12th, 2019 at 3:46pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 12:20pm:
Jasin, ask us again why it is a stupid idea.

UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 11th, 2019 at 10:09pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 9th, 2019 at 7:03pm:
This is no different to those who fret that our economy will suffer if we stop subsidising the local automobile, clothing or music industry.


The difference being that if foreign exporters of food decide not to export food to Australia, then we starve. That is why we rely on Australian farmers to provide most of our food. The next 20 years concerns as much as it should concern you for food security.


Australia is a net food exporter.


Australia, some years ago, produced enough food to feed about 60 million people worldwide. That is nearly 3 times our population. But, we still imported the remainder of our food. Had we not imported that remainder, our supermarkets would probably be noticeably different in stock. Even our McDonalds menu would look a bit different to what we see.
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Reply #166 - Feb 12th, 2019 at 3:55pm
 
Stig wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 3:26pm:
.JaSin. wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 11:49am:
Stig wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 10:59am:
.JaSin. wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 9:03pm:
$662 million (over half a billion) given to Aged Care...

Nothing against Aged Care, but 'the money' is apparently out there.

The Governments are hoping there won't be any more floods or droughts this year and people 'will' forget about silly Canal systems that worked for many other nations and still do today.
Wink


The problem is it's not millions or even billions that you need, but trillions.

It would be more cost effective to simply buy out water licences from farms or provide water conservation measures free of charge than to pipe large amounts of water over large distances.

Remember, you're not talking about a few pipes, you're talking about something akin to the Suez Canal, but multiple times deeper and wider, and 20+ times the length


No, you don't need something the size of Suez Canal to begin with unless you do one straight vertical through Australian and one straight horizontal as your two main arterial 'River-Canals'. That would be great 'long term', but indeed a very costly version. Think of the surrounding 'Man-made Hills' that would suddenly appear and lend weight to a new environment in a VERY FLAT country. Hills are important and Trees should not be removed from them for starters.

Just remember that everything in Australia is 'over-priced'. So if a Canal actually costs on Avg around the World $1million to build, chances are in Australia is gets estimated at $10 million and probably blows out another $5million.

So in a way, FreeDiver is right - the COST in Australia is just ridiculous!  Roll Eyes


Depends on what you want to do. If you're talking about diverting billions of litres of flood waters - say as happened in Townsville - then yes, you do need something the size of the Suez Canal - in fact probably larger.

If you're just talking about irrigating some farms, then you need something less elaborate, but still enormous, and at the end of the day it's probably far cheaper just to install water-saving measures on those farms or buy out water licences of some of the largest users.


In simplistic terms (being that I am no engineer), you would need a pipe probably grilled to ward off the excess mud and debris. The pipe could be connected to the dam. The pipe could be about 10 metres in diameter. And this pipe could be opened during the excessive flood times, to both be used as a countermeasure to flooding in Nth Queensland, as well as to divert river water inland to farming communities. I would assume that there would be a water treatment before sending the water inland to be again treated for drinkability at its location.

Rockhampton was proposing some form of weir to be built upstream from the town to mitigate flooding we seem to get every 2 to 3 years. We don't see flooding too often. However, the council sought to build a flood-proof road out of town, so that we did not get cut off during our flooding. The proposal was denied due to the costs associated with the construction just to overcome a 1 week in every 3 year event. I would have been happy to see construction of the weir built to allow flood water to be distributed to inland to our Central Queensland region's rural community.
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Reply #167 - Feb 12th, 2019 at 4:52pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 9:55pm:
John Smith wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 5:13pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 2:40pm:
But they are all stupid for the same reason - ridiculous cost.





pretty sure they made the same argument about the Snowy mountain Hydro scheme, the Sydney Harbour Bridge and every other major piece of infrastructure ever built.  Cheesy


Your point is? That Jasin is a genius in disguise because someone else had a good idea one time?


Isn't Freediver an Economist? Grin
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Reply #168 - Feb 12th, 2019 at 5:19pm
 
the whole thing would take years to build....why fuss about the cost?.... everything in this damn country COSTS.. look at the stoooopid NBN...it started out at $4bil.....

why is everyone so negative?....

look at the railways built by hand almost....bullocks and carts    but they knew how essential it was to this country...so no negativity   just sheer guts and getting on with it..
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Reply #169 - Feb 12th, 2019 at 8:16pm
 
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the whole thing would take years to build....why fuss about the cost?


That's what people do when you take their money away from them. Politics eh?

Is there anything else you would like explained cods?
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Reply #170 - Feb 12th, 2019 at 8:56pm
 
Stig wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 3:26pm:
.JaSin. wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 11:49am:
Stig wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 10:59am:
.JaSin. wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 9:03pm:
$662 million (over half a billion) given to Aged Care...

Nothing against Aged Care, but 'the money' is apparently out there.

The Governments are hoping there won't be any more floods or droughts this year and people 'will' forget about silly Canal systems that worked for many other nations and still do today.
Wink


The problem is it's not millions or even billions that you need, but trillions.

It would be more cost effective to simply buy out water licences from farms or provide water conservation measures free of charge than to pipe large amounts of water over large distances.

Remember, you're not talking about a few pipes, you're talking about something akin to the Suez Canal, but multiple times deeper and wider, and 20+ times the length


No, you don't need something the size of Suez Canal to begin with unless you do one straight vertical through Australian and one straight horizontal as your two main arterial 'River-Canals'. That would be great 'long term', but indeed a very costly version. Think of the surrounding 'Man-made Hills' that would suddenly appear and lend weight to a new environment in a VERY FLAT country. Hills are important and Trees should not be removed from them for starters.

Just remember that everything in Australia is 'over-priced'. So if a Canal actually costs on Avg around the World $1million to build, chances are in Australia is gets estimated at $10 million and probably blows out another $5million.

So in a way, FreeDiver is right - the COST in Australia is just ridiculous!  Roll Eyes


Depends on what you want to do. If you're talking about diverting billions of litres of flood waters - say as happened in Townsville - then yes, you do need something the size of the Suez Canal - in fact probably larger.

If you're just talking about irrigating some farms, then you need something less elaborate, but still enormous, and at the end of the day it's probably far cheaper just to install water-saving measures on those farms or buy out water licences of some of the largest users.


Well this is where more good research is needed because your right with your Big Suez style and I would say mine was more an intricate branch network of smaller canals working together to filter the water away to more arid parts of the country for better use.
Either way - we are both right. Both would work.

...and that water is flowing along feeding other systems along the way in need through the state or states until it reaches its final destination in some very striken part of the country.
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Reply #171 - Feb 12th, 2019 at 9:04pm
 
.JaSin. wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 8:56pm:
Stig wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 3:26pm:
.JaSin. wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 11:49am:
Stig wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 10:59am:
.JaSin. wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 9:03pm:
$662 million (over half a billion) given to Aged Care...

Nothing against Aged Care, but 'the money' is apparently out there.

The Governments are hoping there won't be any more floods or droughts this year and people 'will' forget about silly Canal systems that worked for many other nations and still do today.
Wink


The problem is it's not millions or even billions that you need, but trillions.

It would be more cost effective to simply buy out water licences from farms or provide water conservation measures free of charge than to pipe large amounts of water over large distances.

Remember, you're not talking about a few pipes, you're talking about something akin to the Suez Canal, but multiple times deeper and wider, and 20+ times the length


No, you don't need something the size of Suez Canal to begin with unless you do one straight vertical through Australian and one straight horizontal as your two main arterial 'River-Canals'. That would be great 'long term', but indeed a very costly version. Think of the surrounding 'Man-made Hills' that would suddenly appear and lend weight to a new environment in a VERY FLAT country. Hills are important and Trees should not be removed from them for starters.

Just remember that everything in Australia is 'over-priced'. So if a Canal actually costs on Avg around the World $1million to build, chances are in Australia is gets estimated at $10 million and probably blows out another $5million.

So in a way, FreeDiver is right - the COST in Australia is just ridiculous!  Roll Eyes


Depends on what you want to do. If you're talking about diverting billions of litres of flood waters - say as happened in Townsville - then yes, you do need something the size of the Suez Canal - in fact probably larger.

If you're just talking about irrigating some farms, then you need something less elaborate, but still enormous, and at the end of the day it's probably far cheaper just to install water-saving measures on those farms or buy out water licences of some of the largest users.


Well this is where more good research is needed because your right with your Big Suez style and I would say mine was more an intricate branch network of smaller canals working together to filter the water away to more arid parts of the country for better use.
Either way - we are both right. Both would work.

...and that water is flowing along feeding other systems along the way in need through the state or states until it reaches its final destination in some very striken part of the country.


The most expensive water evaporator in the world.
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Reply #172 - Feb 12th, 2019 at 9:17pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 9:04pm:
.JaSin. wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 8:56pm:
Stig wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 3:26pm:
.JaSin. wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 11:49am:
Stig wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 10:59am:
.JaSin. wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 9:03pm:
$662 million (over half a billion) given to Aged Care...

Nothing against Aged Care, but 'the money' is apparently out there.

The Governments are hoping there won't be any more floods or droughts this year and people 'will' forget about silly Canal systems that worked for many other nations and still do today.
Wink


The problem is it's not millions or even billions that you need, but trillions.

It would be more cost effective to simply buy out water licences from farms or provide water conservation measures free of charge than to pipe large amounts of water over large distances.

Remember, you're not talking about a few pipes, you're talking about something akin to the Suez Canal, but multiple times deeper and wider, and 20+ times the length


No, you don't need something the size of Suez Canal to begin with unless you do one straight vertical through Australian and one straight horizontal as your two main arterial 'River-Canals'. That would be great 'long term', but indeed a very costly version. Think of the surrounding 'Man-made Hills' that would suddenly appear and lend weight to a new environment in a VERY FLAT country. Hills are important and Trees should not be removed from them for starters.

Just remember that everything in Australia is 'over-priced'. So if a Canal actually costs on Avg around the World $1million to build, chances are in Australia is gets estimated at $10 million and probably blows out another $5million.

So in a way, FreeDiver is right - the COST in Australia is just ridiculous!  Roll Eyes


Depends on what you want to do. If you're talking about diverting billions of litres of flood waters - say as happened in Townsville - then yes, you do need something the size of the Suez Canal - in fact probably larger.

If you're just talking about irrigating some farms, then you need something less elaborate, but still enormous, and at the end of the day it's probably far cheaper just to install water-saving measures on those farms or buy out water licences of some of the largest users.


Well this is where more good research is needed because your right with your Big Suez style and I would say mine was more an intricate branch network of smaller canals working together to filter the water away to more arid parts of the country for better use.
Either way - we are both right. Both would work.

...and that water is flowing along feeding other systems along the way in need through the state or states until it reaches its final destination in some very striken part of the country.


The most expensive water evaporator in the world.

And what do you think watered all the massive crops of the Ancient world? It was the evaporation of the Canal waters that 'watered' the crops during the night.
No rain, no need to splash the water over the crops on the surface (during the day).


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Reply #173 - Feb 12th, 2019 at 9:20pm
 
.JaSin. wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 9:17pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 9:04pm:
.JaSin. wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 8:56pm:
Stig wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 3:26pm:
.JaSin. wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 11:49am:
Stig wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 10:59am:
.JaSin. wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 9:03pm:
$662 million (over half a billion) given to Aged Care...

Nothing against Aged Care, but 'the money' is apparently out there.

The Governments are hoping there won't be any more floods or droughts this year and people 'will' forget about silly Canal systems that worked for many other nations and still do today.
Wink


The problem is it's not millions or even billions that you need, but trillions.

It would be more cost effective to simply buy out water licences from farms or provide water conservation measures free of charge than to pipe large amounts of water over large distances.

Remember, you're not talking about a few pipes, you're talking about something akin to the Suez Canal, but multiple times deeper and wider, and 20+ times the length


No, you don't need something the size of Suez Canal to begin with unless you do one straight vertical through Australian and one straight horizontal as your two main arterial 'River-Canals'. That would be great 'long term', but indeed a very costly version. Think of the surrounding 'Man-made Hills' that would suddenly appear and lend weight to a new environment in a VERY FLAT country. Hills are important and Trees should not be removed from them for starters.

Just remember that everything in Australia is 'over-priced'. So if a Canal actually costs on Avg around the World $1million to build, chances are in Australia is gets estimated at $10 million and probably blows out another $5million.

So in a way, FreeDiver is right - the COST in Australia is just ridiculous!  Roll Eyes


Depends on what you want to do. If you're talking about diverting billions of litres of flood waters - say as happened in Townsville - then yes, you do need something the size of the Suez Canal - in fact probably larger.

If you're just talking about irrigating some farms, then you need something less elaborate, but still enormous, and at the end of the day it's probably far cheaper just to install water-saving measures on those farms or buy out water licences of some of the largest users.


Well this is where more good research is needed because your right with your Big Suez style and I would say mine was more an intricate branch network of smaller canals working together to filter the water away to more arid parts of the country for better use.
Either way - we are both right. Both would work.

...and that water is flowing along feeding other systems along the way in need through the state or states until it reaches its final destination in some very striken part of the country.


The most expensive water evaporator in the world.

And what do you think watered all the massive crops of the Ancient world? It was the evaporation of the Canal waters that 'watered' the crops during the night.
No rain, no need to splash the water over the crops on the surface (during the day).




They also used raw human faeces for fertiliser. The wisdom of the ancients eh?
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Reply #174 - Feb 13th, 2019 at 7:50pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 9:20pm:
.JaSin. wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 9:17pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 9:04pm:
.JaSin. wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 8:56pm:
Stig wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 3:26pm:
.JaSin. wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 11:49am:
Stig wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 10:59am:
.JaSin. wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 9:03pm:
$662 million (over half a billion) given to Aged Care...

Nothing against Aged Care, but 'the money' is apparently out there.

The Governments are hoping there won't be any more floods or droughts this year and people 'will' forget about silly Canal systems that worked for many other nations and still do today.
Wink


The problem is it's not millions or even billions that you need, but trillions.

It would be more cost effective to simply buy out water licences from farms or provide water conservation measures free of charge than to pipe large amounts of water over large distances.

Remember, you're not talking about a few pipes, you're talking about something akin to the Suez Canal, but multiple times deeper and wider, and 20+ times the length


No, you don't need something the size of Suez Canal to begin with unless you do one straight vertical through Australian and one straight horizontal as your two main arterial 'River-Canals'. That would be great 'long term', but indeed a very costly version. Think of the surrounding 'Man-made Hills' that would suddenly appear and lend weight to a new environment in a VERY FLAT country. Hills are important and Trees should not be removed from them for starters.

Just remember that everything in Australia is 'over-priced'. So if a Canal actually costs on Avg around the World $1million to build, chances are in Australia is gets estimated at $10 million and probably blows out another $5million.

So in a way, FreeDiver is right - the COST in Australia is just ridiculous!  Roll Eyes


Depends on what you want to do. If you're talking about diverting billions of litres of flood waters - say as happened in Townsville - then yes, you do need something the size of the Suez Canal - in fact probably larger.

If you're just talking about irrigating some farms, then you need something less elaborate, but still enormous, and at the end of the day it's probably far cheaper just to install water-saving measures on those farms or buy out water licences of some of the largest users.


Well this is where more good research is needed because your right with your Big Suez style and I would say mine was more an intricate branch network of smaller canals working together to filter the water away to more arid parts of the country for better use.
Either way - we are both right. Both would work.

...and that water is flowing along feeding other systems along the way in need through the state or states until it reaches its final destination in some very striken part of the country.


The most expensive water evaporator in the world.

And what do you think watered all the massive crops of the Ancient world? It was the evaporation of the Canal waters that 'watered' the crops during the night.
No rain, no need to splash the water over the crops on the surface (during the day).




They also used raw human faeces for fertiliser. The wisdom of the ancients eh?


Yes well, recently - Sydneysiders were eating their fruit & vegetables that were grown in their own 'Sydney Basin' backyard - that was 'fertilised' by their own 'sewage' (worst than just faeces ...like horse, chicken manure too  Wink Right?  Wink). God knows how long it took the people of Sydney to get sick of that  Wink Ahh yes, the Modern Technologically Superior  society of Sydney - eh  Wink It obviously got endorsed by the CSIRO before approval - right?  Wink

Now its just been estimated that so far - 300,000 cattle have been lost in the Townsville Floods. That's a lot of loss beyond just homes and household items.  Shocked An area can only 'Flood', if the rainwater has no where to go!
It rains far more and heavier in other parts of the world, like  the Amazon... and yet it has somewhere to go and it rains heavier closer to the mountains too btw.  Wink
So the K.I.S.S approach of incorporating (jobs!  Cool) a Canal system in all regional areas not just to alleviate flood potential, but to also feed Drought areas of little to no rainfall at all.
It would only take a 'biblical' proportion of 40 nights/days of  heavy rain to really make a (sea) massive impact.
God help us in this highly extreme-erratic weathered world of ours that we have 'created'... like Gods, if it actually did right!  Wink

So, unless you have a 'better' or 'alternative' at least, to show as your cards to be put on the table?
I really can't see where you are going with your argument against mine?  Huh
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Reply #175 - Feb 14th, 2019 at 5:30am
 
.JaSin. wrote on Feb 7th, 2019 at 9:19pm:
On the news last night.

People of Wilcannia complaining about their Drought, their empty river-beds and "Why can't that transfer that water from QLD down to here!?"

Again - thankyou!  Wink


You bloody idiot that exactly what does happen when there is a big enough rain event.

The problem is that the water is now harvested for irrigation all the way along the length of the Murray Darling system .......

but when it doesn't rain even those harvesters/farmers don't have/can't harvest water.

That flooding in Far North Western QLD will travel all the way to Sth Australia .....fill Lake Eyre, Lake Torrens, Lake Frome etc.

If you dam the channel country system to allow intensive corporate agriculture in those arid areas .....

you just repeat what has happened to the Murray Darling system.
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Reply #176 - Feb 14th, 2019 at 7:06pm
 
Gnads wrote on Feb 14th, 2019 at 5:30am:
.JaSin. wrote on Feb 7th, 2019 at 9:19pm:
On the news last night.

People of Wilcannia complaining about their Drought, their empty river-beds and "Why can't that transfer that water from QLD down to here!?"

Again - thankyou!  Wink


You bloody idiot that exactly what does happen when there is a big enough rain event.

The problem is that the water is now harvested for irrigation all the way along the length of the Murray Darling system .......

but when it doesn't rain even those harvesters/farmers don't have/can't harvest water.

That flooding in Far North Western QLD will travel all the way to Sth Australia .....fill Lake Eyre, Lake Torrens, Lake Frome etc.

If you dam the channel country system to allow intensive corporate agriculture in those arid areas .....

you just repeat what has happened to the Murray Darling system.


You are 'right' GNADS, but I'm just 'even better' right as well.  Wink
The majority of the Australian 'river, stream, creek' system is a very SHALLOW affair. I've had a hell of a lot of rain in my region, but our local shallow, sandy, rocky - almost flat river/creek/stream beds are all basically the same 'mostly empty' look and capacity.

So what is happening and why is the 'natural' waterway systems just not working as efficient?  Huh
Besides 'hoofed' bovine and herd are ruining the waterway edges for many other species and thus lowering the quality of water as well...
Besides most of them being 'Shallow' in the global scheme of things.
Besides most of them not having great 'holding capacities' (see prev sentence).
Besides every Farm/Farmer having to suck every available waterway DRY like an alcoholic in an outback pub called 'Bup-Kcabtou'.
Besides every Farm/Farmer exercising 'full quotas' even if they don't 'need' all that water.
Besides the demands of 'drinking water' for a greater population of people.
(Stuff making more 'Wetland Filtration Systems'  Roll Eyes - that would mean more water to accommodate a better system which provides more 'FRESH WATER' for Australia, the world.  Huh Roll Eyes)

You call me a stupid idiot - but what 'else' have you got to show for it to not only fill the hole that's full of problems, but to build a hill to climb over it as well?? Huh

I don't mind if 'better' alternatives are pumped by other Members here, but really - where are they, besides the Canal/Pipe Network Systems??

And yes, covering them all with Solar Panels is a good idea too  Wink
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Reply #177 - Feb 16th, 2019 at 11:25am
 
.JaSin. wrote on Feb 14th, 2019 at 7:06pm:
Gnads wrote on Feb 14th, 2019 at 5:30am:
.JaSin. wrote on Feb 7th, 2019 at 9:19pm:
On the news last night.

People of Wilcannia complaining about their Drought, their empty river-beds and "Why can't that transfer that water from QLD down to here!?"

Again - thankyou!  Wink


You bloody idiot that exactly what does happen when there is a big enough rain event.

The problem is that the water is now harvested for irrigation all the way along the length of the Murray Darling system .......

but when it doesn't rain even those harvesters/farmers don't have/can't harvest water.

That flooding in Far North Western QLD will travel all the way to Sth Australia .....fill Lake Eyre, Lake Torrens, Lake Frome etc.

If you dam the channel country system to allow intensive corporate agriculture in those arid areas .....

you just repeat what has happened to the Murray Darling system.


You are 'right' GNADS, but I'm just 'even better' right as well.  Wink
The majority of the Australian 'river, stream, creek' system is a very SHALLOW affair. I've had a hell of a lot of rain in my region, but our local shallow, sandy, rocky - almost flat river/creek/stream beds are all basically the same 'mostly empty' look and capacity.

So what is happening and why is the 'natural' waterway systems just not working as efficient?  Huh
Besides 'hoofed' bovine and herd are ruining the waterway edges for many other species and thus lowering the quality of water as well...
Besides most of them being 'Shallow' in the global scheme of things.
Besides most of them not having great 'holding capacities' (see prev sentence).
Besides every Farm/Farmer having to suck every available waterway DRY like an alcoholic in an outback pub called 'Bup-Kcabtou'.
Besides every Farm/Farmer exercising 'full quotas' even if they don't 'need' all that water.
Besides the demands of 'drinking water' for a greater population of people.
(Stuff making more 'Wetland Filtration Systems'  Roll Eyes - that would mean more water to accommodate a better system which provides more 'FRESH WATER' for Australia, the world.  Huh Roll Eyes)

You call me a stupid idiot - but what 'else' have you got to show for it to not only fill the hole that's full of problems, but to build a hill to climb over it as well?? Huh

I don't mind if 'better' alternatives are pumped by other Members here, but really - where are they, besides the Canal/Pipe Network Systems??

And yes, covering them all with Solar Panels is a good idea too  Wink


I called you a bloody idiot.

We are only having problems with the MDB river system because we have interfered with a system that doesn't have regular catchment rainfall.

Doing that to another system is just madness & repeating the first farg up.

We don't need to harvest the waters of every system ... those water flows are what makes it function how it supposed to for that environment.

We just need to better utilize & regulate what we have now.
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Re: Drain the QLD Flood
Reply #178 - Feb 16th, 2019 at 5:16pm
 
Jasin why is it innovative to dig an open trench to move water, but not when you take a dump on your lettuce?
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Reply #179 - Feb 17th, 2019 at 9:15pm
 
Well I think you are both just a tad gutless to try anything in the first place for fear of failure.
So thus, you both just play it safe and do nothing unless Mummy Britain and Daddy America do it for you.

Sure, my ideas might be 'basic' - but at least they are brave.

Still waiting for better solutions to the drought/flood problem by you two... but still nothing.  Lips Sealed

Ancient Egyptians manufactured giant Canals right up to the base of Pyramids to deliver 2T blocks of stone via boats.

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