Jasin
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freediver wrote on Feb 9 th, 2019 at 9:03am: Setanta wrote on Feb 8 th, 2019 at 11:19pm: freediver wrote on Feb 8 th, 2019 at 10:48pm: Quote:Who said it will be 'free' water? 2. Definitely be accessible water at least, considering before there was none - regardless of cost. You have shown, and continue to show, complete disregard for and disinterest in the cost. Yet that is exactly what it boils down to. If the the farmers were willing to pay the cost, it would have happened already. It would not be a matter of the government doing it for them, but a matter of the government getting out of the way and letting it happen, which does happen and there are plenty of massive privately funded irrigation schemes around, just not on a scale of stupid. No-one is offering to pay for this, directly or indirectly. All we have is naive dreamers wanting to spend billions of dollars of other people's money because they think all our problems would be solved if only the government would "do something". I'm not taking either side on this issue but I will on govt works. Private enterprise can never do what govts can. Private enterprise needs returns right now, govt can bank on returns far into the future. If the conservatives had their way, the Sydney harbour Bridge would have been two lanes. If the conservatives had their way the Snowy would never have been built, if the conservatives had their way the Hoover dam would not exist. The Ord river scheme is still being debated, I think it has a great future but it's something private enterprise could never do. Private enterprise is great for here and now but is not for nation building, it does not care about the future. You want something big done? Govt needs to do it. And yet the government calls on private enterprise for all the big new freeway projects. Private enterprise is just as happy to make returns in the future, so long as they are real, not imaginary. If the government makes an investment whose value is only 1% per annum of the initial cost, that is a reason for the government not making investments. Jasin wrote on Feb 8 th, 2019 at 11:25pm: freediver wrote on Feb 8 th, 2019 at 10:48pm: Quote:Who said it will be 'free' water? 2. Definitely be accessible water at least, considering before there was none - regardless of cost. You have shown, and continue to show, complete disregard for and disinterest in the cost. Yet that is exactly what it boils down to. If the the farmers were willing to pay the cost, it would have happened already. It would not be a matter of the government doing it for them, but a matter of the government getting out of the way and letting it happen, which does happen and there are plenty of massive privately funded irrigation schemes around, just not on a scale of stupid. No-one is offering to pay for this, directly or indirectly. All we have is naive dreamers wanting to spend billions of dollars of other people's money because they think all our problems would be solved if only the government would "do something". And what do you think the Politicians are doing? How many $ millions for the French to build 'our' Submarines How many $ millions for USA hand-me-down military toys How many $millions for Indonesian education? How many $ millions spent by ALP for many Companies who 'folded' in Australia? How many $ BILLIONS spent funding the U.N bills with a few other nations while 95% of every other nation hasn't paid their credit card debts? ...oh the list goes on! Don't tell us about 'COST' when the cost is just a priority issue. NBN $millions anyone? Relief Packages here and overseas = $millions ...anyone? I'm pretty sure there would be 'minimal' cost involved in the first step of 'Research' into viable 'approach' towards implementing a 'system' that would provide such as mentioned through-out this topic and since one of my first Topics on this Forum "The Canals of Mars". Cost? Bah Humbug! We pay TAX and WE - the Common People of our own Common 'Wealth' say we want it spent on 'this'. Now get to work! So you hate government waste, but you want the government to waste money on a whole new level on something you have a vague, passing interest in? I've worked in the 'Waste' Industry and I'm not just talking about having to look after people who care constantly 'Wasted' as well. As long as Australian Politics continues the empowerment of the 'Individual' (Prime Minister) over that of the 'General Mass' - everything that is currently being spent on and in the past has indeed, been a giant 'WASTE' for nothing but their benefit of the USA. Prime Ministers are nothing but scum for the USA, keeping our nation 'crapped out' to make USA look better than it really is. I support the Governor-General, who does empower us, over himself/herself as his/her fullfillment is to serve Great Britain and its King/Queen. With this - 'we' the Common People of her Majesties Common Wealth shall declare WAR on your Prime Ministership's service to the USA and any 'Mercenary' that has fought for the USA in its Privatised wars. Both ALP and NLP will soon feel the true power of Terra Australis, Great South Land, Endrax Land, New Holland, Ophir, AustralAsia, Aurora and Azlaroc and its true people.
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