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The Grenfell fire tragedy hits home in Melbourne
Feb 4th, 2019 at 1:13pm
 
Greedy property developers, greedy real estate agents, greedy councils turning a blind eye and politicians are still looking into it Sad

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-04/spencer-street-apartment-fire-melbourne/1...

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Melbourne apartment tower fire fuelled by combustible cladding on Spencer St high-rise

About 150 people were forced to evacuate from a Melbourne apartment complex after a fire spread up the side of the high-rise building, which firefighters say is covered in combustible cladding.

The fire started on a 22nd-floor balcony of the 200 Spencer Street building shortly before 6:00am, and spread up the exterior of the building to the 27th floor, firefighters believe.

Fifteen fire trucks, two ladder-platform trucks and 60 firefighters were used to extinguish the fire, which was brought under control at 6:49am.

Metropolitan Fire Brigade (MFB) chief officer Dan Stephens said firefighters believed the building was covered in the same material as London's Grenfell Tower, in which 72 people died in 2017.

He said fire investigators would determine how the blaze started and spread.

"I can't speculate at this time, what I can say is that there's evidence of external fire spread," he said.

"We do know that because the sprinklers were activated, that the fire has penetrated internally [as well]."

Internal sprinklers were activated on four floors of the building, and firefighters said it was unclear how badly apartments would be damaged.

A man in his 20s was treated for smoke inhalation at the scene by paramedics and taken to the Royal Melbourne Hospital in a stable condition.

The City of Melbourne said about 200 people had visited a relief centre set up at the Melbourne Town Hall.....



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Re: The Grenfell fire tragedy hits home in Melbourne
Reply #1 - Feb 4th, 2019 at 2:41pm
 
Hi Nail,
you can bet that people high up were paid off with money in brown paper bags.

Everyone knows the cladding must go but no one wants to pay.
Really - insurance companies should have picked up the tab -
but they an off into the desert.
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Reply #2 - Feb 4th, 2019 at 3:14pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 4th, 2019 at 2:41pm:
Hi Nail,
you can bet that people high up were paid off with money in brown paper bags.

Everyone knows the cladding must go but no one wants to pay.
Really - insurance companies should have picked up the tab -
but they an off into the desert.


A builder rang up talk back radio and he said that he would not touch that cheap chinese cladding with a barge poll. The good inflammable cladding from Europe costs 4 times as much which is why they don't use it and the gov is not to keen on enforcing the use of it either. Cheaper cheaper cheaper - jobsungroth is the way this fake economy keeps operating Sad
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Reply #3 - Feb 4th, 2019 at 5:54pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 4th, 2019 at 3:14pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 4th, 2019 at 2:41pm:
Hi Nail,
you can bet that people high up were paid off with money in brown paper bags.

Everyone knows the cladding must go but no one wants to pay.
Really - insurance companies should have picked up the tab -
but they an off into the desert.


A builder rang up talk back radio and he said that he would not touch that cheap chinese cladding with a barge poll. The good inflammable cladding from Europe costs 4 times as much which is why they don't use it and the gov is not to keen on enforcing the use of it either. Cheaper cheaper cheaper - jobsungroth is the way this fake economy keeps operating Sad



Looks like we'll need a Grenfell tower result here
before anything will be done.
When will they ever learn?

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Reply #4 - Feb 4th, 2019 at 8:25pm
 
They'll never learn bobby - they simply run the risk and don't really care for those who might be caught in a raging fire... acceptable casualties in the name of progress... and it's a bit of a lottery that they won't catch fire....

That's what our society has become.
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Reply #5 - Feb 4th, 2019 at 9:03pm
 
Ye Grappler wrote on Feb 4th, 2019 at 8:25pm:
They'll never learn bobby - they simply run the risk and don't really care for those who might be caught in a raging fire... acceptable casualties in the name of progress... and it's a bit of a lottery that they won't catch fire....

That's what our society has become.




From the radio today -
there are approximately 1000 buildings is Australia
just like Grenfell tower with the same dangerous cladding.
Almost nothing has been done about it.

We were lucky today that 100 people or more didn't die -
pure luck.
Apparently the water sprinkler system worked to
stop the whole building going up in flames.
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Reply #7 - Feb 4th, 2019 at 10:52pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 4th, 2019 at 9:03pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Feb 4th, 2019 at 8:25pm:
They'll never learn bobby - they simply run the risk and don't really care for those who might be caught in a raging fire... acceptable casualties in the name of progress... and it's a bit of a lottery that they won't catch fire....

That's what our society has become.




From the radio today -
there are approximately 1000 buildings is Australia
just like Grenfell tower with the same dangerous cladding.
Almost nothing has been done about it.

We were lucky today that 100 people or more didn't die -
pure luck.
Apparently the water sprinkler system worked to
stop the whole building going up in flames.


Herald Sun (paywall) is running an article right now, stating there are thousands -- thousands -- of buildings in victoria alone with the dangerous cladding

ABC news claimed a while ago that there were well over a thousand in NSW

and south-east Queensland must be covered in the stuff

Re: NSW: 
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The number of buildings affected by the ban is unclear. In June, the state government said Fire & Rescue NSW had assessed 2280 buildings and found 417 in need of closer scrutiny. A register of buildings with combustible cladding, drawn up in the wake of an audit conducted by the NSW Cladding Taskforce, is due to come into effect this year but it may not be public
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Reply #8 - Feb 5th, 2019 at 4:49am
 
Thanks PZ547,

so the problem is a lot worse than we thought.
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Reply #9 - Feb 5th, 2019 at 1:01pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 5th, 2019 at 4:49am:
Thanks PZ547,

so the problem is a lot worse than we thought.


In the news today:

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Hundreds of families living in buildings lined with combustible cladding could be at risk as authorities choose to not name the flammable sites.

The Victorian state government refuses to budge on the matter out of fear that revealing which buildings are affected would encourage arson attempts, The Australian reported.


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And the guys who churned out the stuff, and the guys who profited by importing and selling the stuff and the governments who despite knowing long before of the dangers yet who still refused to ban the stuff and builders/developers who used the stuff

they're all off the hook.  Got their money, bye bye


now the onus is being placed on local councils to enforce removal and replacement of the stuff

and the poor buggers who bought those places and are still paying mortgages -- they'll be footing the bill





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Reply #10 - Feb 5th, 2019 at 1:24pm
 
Hi PZ547 -

what further proof do we need that
Australia is a land full of crooks?
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Reply #11 - Feb 5th, 2019 at 1:37pm
 
It's only been 4 years since an audit found the combustible panels on the Melbourne high-rise building ... don't want to rush these things.  Shocked
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Reply #12 - Feb 8th, 2019 at 12:50pm
 
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The Victorian Government said a national approach was needed to address the cladding issue and said it would push for that at today's Building Ministers' Forum in Hobart.

Mr Wynne said the Spencer Street fire was a reminder of the need to act quickly on the matter.

"I'll be pushing for a nationwide ban on combustible cladding really to further protect Victorians from being exposed to unacceptable fire risk," he said.

"The Federal Government have to step up to the plate, they are responsible for all products that come into this country across the border
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Oh take your  time.  The Neo200 latest blaze only took 60 firefighters, two ladder trucks, etc., for a bit of an inferno which had been classified as moderate risk. So not too bad.  Residents will only need to find somewhere to stay for a few weeks. 

Geez, nobody died

You mean you're really going to call for a national ban on the stuff?


But the suckers who bought those thousands of apartments which are cloaked in the stuff still haven't paid to have it removed and replaced before they can even begin to try to unload their places

so we don't want to crash the real estate market even more

No, take your time.  Most people thought you would have banned the stuff years ago.  I mean, local councils fritter hundreds of thousands of ratepayers' money away in court in order to save a footpath-destroying tree

so guess it's understandable the public expected you important-guys would have stopped allowing importation and use of deadly, flammable crap -- which just happens to make it easier and more profitable for developers who then walk away and leave mortgage-ridden suckers holding the toxic burning baby


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