matty wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 1:39am:


I gave you the alternative of siding with those that side with the coalition (like One Nation).  Ultimately which small party you are aligned, you (or your small party) has to pick a major party to support in forming government (if minority).

Your sense of fairness is not shared by some.  There is a clear difference in opinions which is why you are puzzled about why others may see things differently.

Keeping it to a simple analogy. 

There are two different pots which have varying soils (background/upbringing of people).  Though we treat them exactly the same, the plants grown are different.  If we are thinking of fairness in terms of resources used, well, so be it.
If we are after the best performance of each plant, one plant might need an extra boost to produce better.

matty wrote on Jan 31^st, 2019 at 12:55pm:


You didn't notice that the Liberals want to push the pension age to 70 due to their own neglect and incompetence and that they are very strongly doing exactly the same thing.

This is happening out of fairness - Both the Liberals and Labor understand that the numbers clearly say the paying more people a pension is not affordable. The argument is that not paying a pension to people who do not need it helps to remedy this problem.

The super guarantee from the 90's was meant to correct this issue by reducing the need for a pension however every successive Liberal government blocking increases has blocked the fix and forced an extension to the pension eligibility age.

There are so many needs and not enough funds to cover them adequately.  Tax changes will create "winners" and "losers".  And that's the problem - focus on "winning".  That's why Matty thinks its unfair.

stunspore wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 11:42am:


Not really. Quit simply put, I believe in reward for effort; a notion that you leftists just can’t, or refuse, to understand.

matty wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 12:38pm:


I'm somewhat centre of left..... far more left than the Dali Lama, it seems - but nobody could fault my work ethic etc..... and there is not always reward for effort, let me assure you.

Man..... you gotta be rich to even think that way....

matty wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 12:36pm:


Ultimately,either coalition or ALP will form government.  No matter which small party you pick, one of them will govern.  Are you letting the small parties choose for you to be the kingmaker?  Matty, be honest.  You want coalition to be in government more than ALP.

matty wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 12:38pm:


So you say drastically increase taxes to the well off so that they can be paid pensions ?

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You miss the point that the right have no different policy in fact this one is mostly their position and fault.

I am not aware of a party or politician who is looking at anything different.

How do you consider all the tax benefits to more wealthy people saving for retirement ? A tax beak which means nothing to poor people.

When you measure in all the costs and benefits the wealthy do a lot better out of public money and taxation than the poor.