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Re: Shifty, evasive Muslims
Reply #30 - Jan 14^th, 2019 at 3:20pm

freediver wrote on Jan 14^th, 2019 at 1:50pm:

Another one:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 14^th, 2019 at 9:31am:

freediver wrote on Jan 11^th, 2019 at 9:30pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11^th, 2019 at 1:41pm:

Is there an answer that doesn't make me a typical muslim sinister racist (according to FD?)

No there isn't.

If 'yes' - point proven
If 'no' - ha, caught you lying!

You are sinister in your own unique way Gandalf. Now stop being evasive. What I think of your answer does not change what your answer is. Do not be afraid of the truth.

Were they a mindless collective?

quote of the century. Sig worthy.

FD you just edited what I quoted - to make it look like I quoted something different.

Does that qualify as shifty?

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Re: Shifty, evasive Muslims
Reply #32 - Jan 14^th, 2019 at 4:29pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 14^th, 2019 at 3:20pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 14^th, 2019 at 1:50pm:

Another one:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 14^th, 2019 at 9:31am:

freediver wrote on Jan 11^th, 2019 at 9:30pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11^th, 2019 at 1:41pm:

Is there an answer that doesn't make me a typical muslim sinister racist (according to FD?)

No there isn't.

If 'yes' - point proven
If 'no' - ha, caught you lying!

You are sinister in your own unique way Gandalf. Now stop being evasive. What I think of your answer does not change what your answer is. Do not be afraid of the truth.

Were they a mindless collective?

quote of the century. Sig worthy.

FD you just edited what I quoted - to make it look like I quoted something different.

Does that qualify as shifty?

Sure does. Does that mean FD's a Muslim?

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Re: Shifty, evasive Muslims
Reply #33 - Jan 14^th, 2019 at 4:32pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 14^th, 2019 at 3:24pm:

Report it to Vic.....he has made a Rule about that sort of thing.

Cool

'Ere ya go.

Link.

We don't report people, Aussie. We're all friends here.

Besides, FD upholds the use of porkies in his campaign against the Muselman, we all know that. He has two tactics: lying and evasion.

There's now a strong suggestion he's a Muslim. I mean, everybody's saying it.

Where did shifty, evasive Muslims come from? Anybody?

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Reply #34 - Jan 14^th, 2019 at 5:43pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 13^th, 2019 at 10:09pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 13^th, 2019 at 8:42pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 13^th, 2019 at 11:01am:

issuevoter wrote on Jan 13^th, 2019 at 8:06am:

Shifty, evasive Muzlims . . . and your point is?

Sometimes a question is just a question.

Why are muslims shifty and evasive is the question that IS just the question.
Supplementary: why are YOU shifty and evasive, Paki?

Speak.

I'll answer any question you want, old boy. Why do you say l'm a Paki?

Groan.

You are at heart. With all your posts you identify as one.

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Re: Shifty, evasive Muslims
Reply #35 - Jan 14^th, 2019 at 5:48pm

Frank wrote on Jan 14^th, 2019 at 5:43pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 13^th, 2019 at 10:09pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 13^th, 2019 at 8:42pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 13^th, 2019 at 11:01am:

issuevoter wrote on Jan 13^th, 2019 at 8:06am:

Shifty, evasive Muzlims . . . and your point is?

Sometimes a question is just a question.

Why are muslims shifty and evasive is the question that IS just the question.
Supplementary: why are YOU shifty and evasive, Paki?

Speak.

I'll answer any question you want, old boy. Why do you say l'm a Paki?

Groan.

You are at heart. With all your posts you identify as one.

One must be polite, dear. What is it about Pakis that you like to identify others as one?

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Reply #36 - Jan 16^th, 2019 at 8:52pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 14^th, 2019 at 5:48pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 14^th, 2019 at 5:43pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 13^th, 2019 at 10:09pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 13^th, 2019 at 8:42pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 13^th, 2019 at 11:01am:

issuevoter wrote on Jan 13^th, 2019 at 8:06am:

Shifty, evasive Muzlims . . . and your point is?

Sometimes a question is just a question.

Why are muslims shifty and evasive is the question that IS just the question.
Supplementary: why are YOU shifty and evasive, Paki?

Speak.

I'll answer any question you want, old boy. Why do you say l'm a Paki?

Groan.

You are at heart. With all your posts you identify as one.

One must be polite, dear. What is it about Pakis that you like to identify others as one?

Not 'others', Paki - you.

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Re: Shifty, evasive Muslims
Reply #37 - Jan 16^th, 2019 at 8:57pm

More Muslim tapdancing:

freediver wrote on Jan 14^th, 2019 at 7:24pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 14^th, 2019 at 3:13pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 14^th, 2019 at 1:48pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 14^th, 2019 at 9:31am:

freediver wrote on Jan 11^th, 2019 at 9:30pm:

What I think of your answer does not change what your answer is.

Were they a mindless collective?

quote of the century. Sig worthy.

Were they a mindless collective?

Would it be fair to describe your posts in this thread as an evasive Muslim?

Whats really funny about this FD, is that the old 'I'm not going to repeat myself' game has always been your favourite game. Usually it involved trawling through a 2 year long discussion that spanned about 10 different threads. But at least in this case, you know exactly what I said and where you can find it - as you've reposted it 1000 times before (yet somehow feel averse to do it now). Why won't you accept the same standards on others that you set for yourself?

I know you said they were a mindless collective of treacherous Jews Gandalf. But you also said they were not. It's kind of shifty and evasive of you to suggest I fall back on quoting you in order to resolve your self contradictions, don't you think?

Were they a mindless collective?

freediver wrote on Jan 15^th, 2019 at 12:20pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 15^th, 2019 at 9:31am:

freediver wrote on Jan 14^th, 2019 at 9:33pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 14^th, 2019 at 8:40pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 14^th, 2019 at 8:11pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 14^th, 2019 at 8:00pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 14^th, 2019 at 7:24pm:

I know you said they were a mindless collective of treacherous Jews Gandalf.

Ah. See this is the problem when you refuse to quote what I actually said - you end up telling straight up porkies. And here was me willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that your refusal was merely a shifty evasion tactic - as opposed to a means to propagate a flat out lie. tsk tsk shame on you.

Whats the greatest threat to freedom and democracy? People like FD so willing to engage in lies and deceit in their vicious and racist campaign against particular religious/ethnic groups.

If I am misrepresenting you, then you should not have any difficulty giving a straight answer to a simple question.

Were they a mindless collective Gandalf?

I did not call them a "mindless collective of treacherous jews" - not ever. You just said I did, yet you know I never did, and therefore you lied.

There, thats my supremely simple and straight answer to the question of whether or not you misrepresented me. Hope thats clear.

Were they a mindless collective Gandalf?

They all were FD, even the muslims, as I explained at the time. But it really is much more meaningful if you put it in context and reference the actual discussion in which it was made. Why so shy to post the original quote now? You've never hesitated before.

Do you agree you bald-facedly lied just now when you said "I know you said they were a mindless collective of treacherous Jews Gandalf."?

Because I am trying to figure out if you really do stand by what you said previously. And I am trying to figure out why you are denying saying what you previously said quite openly.

Were the treacherous?

freediver wrote on Jan 15^th, 2019 at 12:37pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 15^th, 2019 at 12:32pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 15^th, 2019 at 12:20pm:

Because I am trying to figure out if you really do stand by what you said previously. And I am trying to figure out why you are denying saying what you previously said quite openly.

Were the treacherous?

FD you really are too terrified to simply produce the relevant quote aren't you?

You practically had it on your clipboard before, now you won't touch it with a 10 foot barge pole. Whats that you were lecturing me in the other thread about demanding explanations of isolated, out-of-context quotes? Hillarious.

To answer your question, I refer you to the original statement, which explains it exactly and directly. And of course I stand by it 100%. Its what you would demand of anyone else if the boot was on the other foot. Only the difference here is I'm not sending you off on a wild goose chase across multiple discussions and threads. You know exactly what quote it is and how to locate it - because you've reproduced it 100 times before. Now you are doing your best jellyfish impersonation. Irony overload.

Were they treacherous?

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Re: Shifty, evasive Muslims
Reply #38 - Jan 16^th, 2019 at 8:58pm

freediver wrote on Jan 15^th, 2019 at 7:12pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 15^th, 2019 at 1:35pm:

On any other day, FD would grab the same quote he's been requoting countless times in the last couple of years, and try and construct a case for why I'm a sinister muslim anti-semite who thinks all jews are a mindless collective of treacherous jews.

In this case we would end up with the standard "typical evasive - 'racist without specifically using racist language' muslim/anti-semite" meme. An old favourite. And so from that we get this sort of virtue signalling:

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it is my beleif that it is only the phrasing you reject, but not the meaning. That is, you do actually believe they are a mindless collective of treacherous Jews, but you are being an evasive Muslim. You are like a Nazi trying to avoid sounding like a Nazi by avoiding the same phrases used by Hitler, while still sharing the same views as Hitler.

Essentially - you're a horrible muslim racist because of what you imply, not what you actually say. That was all going along smoothly, until FD couldn't help himself and spectacularly went off script - blurting out what he surely knows is a blatant lie "I know you said they were a mindless collective of treacherous Jews Gandalf". Oh dear, there's no going back from that... and certainly no longer any option to play his hitherto favourite game of "lets post actual gandalf quotes and construct a 'sinister muslim' meme from those". No way - playing the quote game here might actually confirm his lie is a lie.

Solution? Easy - the old "I'm a jellyfish, but I'll pretend its actually gandalf being the jellyfish".

Were they treacherous?

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Re: Shifty, evasive Muslims
Reply #39 - Jan 16^th, 2019 at 9:03pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 13^th, 2019 at 10:09pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 13^th, 2019 at 8:42pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 13^th, 2019 at 11:01am:

issuevoter wrote on Jan 13^th, 2019 at 8:06am:

Shifty, evasive Muzlims . . . and your point is?

Sometimes a question is just a question.

Why are muslims shifty and evasive is the question that IS just the question.
Supplementary: why are YOU shifty and evasive, Paki?

Speak.

I'll answer any question you want, old boy. Why do you say l'm a Paki?

Groan.

Shifty and evasive right there, mohammed be praised for.... er.... what exactly do people see in him and praise him for? Being the Ur Paki?

Explain in your usual sociologically tiresome and yes, shifty and evasive way.

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Reply #40 - Jan 17^th, 2019 at 9:10am

Frank wrote on Jan 16^th, 2019 at 9:03pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 13^th, 2019 at 10:09pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 13^th, 2019 at 8:42pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 13^th, 2019 at 11:01am:

issuevoter wrote on Jan 13^th, 2019 at 8:06am:

Shifty, evasive Muzlims . . . and your point is?

Sometimes a question is just a question.

Why are muslims shifty and evasive is the question that IS just the question.
Supplementary: why are YOU shifty and evasive, Paki?

Speak.

I'll answer any question you want, old boy. Why do you say l'm a Paki?

Groan.

Shifty and evasive right there, mohammed be praised for.... er.... what exactly do people see in him and praise him for? Being the Ur Paki?

Explain in your usual sociologically tiresome and yes, shifty and evasive way.

Oh. You evaded the question.

Cunning, no?

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Reply #41 - Jan 17^th, 2019 at 7:49pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 17^th, 2019 at 9:10am:

Frank wrote on Jan 16^th, 2019 at 9:03pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 13^th, 2019 at 10:09pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 13^th, 2019 at 8:42pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 13^th, 2019 at 11:01am:

issuevoter wrote on Jan 13^th, 2019 at 8:06am:

Shifty, evasive Muzlims . . . and your point is?

Sometimes a question is just a question.

Why are muslims shifty and evasive is the question that IS just the question.
Supplementary: why are YOU shifty and evasive, Paki?

Speak.

I'll answer any question you want, old boy. Why do you say l'm a Paki?

Groan.

Shifty and evasive right there, mohammed be praised for.... er.... what exactly do people see in him and praise him for? Being the Ur Paki?

Explain in your usual sociologically tiresome and yes, shifty and evasive way.

Oh. You evaded the question.

Cunning, no?

No.
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1547264803/34#34

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Re: Shifty, evasive Muslims
Reply #42 - Jan 17^th, 2019 at 7:55pm

Frank wrote on Jan 17^th, 2019 at 7:49pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 17^th, 2019 at 9:10am:

Frank wrote on Jan 16^th, 2019 at 9:03pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 13^th, 2019 at 10:09pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 13^th, 2019 at 8:42pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 13^th, 2019 at 11:01am:

issuevoter wrote on Jan 13^th, 2019 at 8:06am:

Shifty, evasive Muzlims . . . and your point is?

Sometimes a question is just a question.

Why are muslims shifty and evasive is the question that IS just the question.
Supplementary: why are YOU shifty and evasive, Paki?

Speak.

I'll answer any question you want, old boy. Why do you say l'm a Paki?

Groan.

Shifty and evasive right there, mohammed be praised for.... er.... what exactly do people see in him and praise him for? Being the Ur Paki?

Explain in your usual sociologically tiresome and yes, shifty and evasive way.

Oh. You evaded the question.

Cunning, no?

No.
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1547264803/34#34

Not at all, dear. I have no Paki passport, no history, no relatives, no genes, and Ancestry.com gives me a 0.00% chance of being a Paki Bastard.

So again, I'm curious. Why do you like to pretend that silly old Karnal's a Dirty Paki?

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Reply #44 - Jan 24^th, 2019 at 10:56pm

Frank wrote on Jan 24^th, 2019 at 8:51pm:

Shifty, evasive, dishonest, lying - have I left out anything?

No. .....also, [whenever they are 'rampant', in a majority....] merciless, violently cruel and murderous ?

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Egyptian-Canadian Writer Said Shoaib: Western Imams Who Praise Islamic Caliphate Are Terrorists

4 min
https://youtu.be/ZnVGcJRAVqs

SOME OF THE CONTENT....

0m 41s [the follower of ISLAM who comes to the West as a 'migrant', is] "...an unarmed terrorist, [only] until the opportunity [to act] presents itself."

1m 08s "[Canadian 'culture', 2019, actively, naively] ....welcomes ['cloaked' views which promote] violent ISLAM [and actively] rejects criticism of ISLAM."

1m 32s [being said...] 'the ISLAM which is taught in the West [within ISLAMIC schools] is the true ISLAM.' 'there is no 'moderate' ISLAM.' 'there is just, ISLAM.' 'and real ISLAM, teaches, to terrorise the disbeliever.'

1m 55s [though they persecuted minorities in their own nation] "....when they come to the West, they not only demand their rights [in the West] to worship, and their right to practice their religious rites freely, but they also demand that no one [in the West, can have any right to] criticise their religion....The problem is that [the followers of ISLAM] are the people most contemptuous of other religions."

2m 51s [being said...] 'Canadian government, and PM Justin Trudeau are naive actors.' 'Justin Trudeau naively believes all people should hold hands, and hug and kiss each other.' 'he [Justin Trudeau] doesn't know what the followers of ISLAM teach, in their Canadian mosques.' 'the spokesmen for their community, are the ISLAMISTS! [the militants] !!!' "A lot of blood will be shed here in the West...." '[it is inevitable] that the native peoples in the West will take matters into their own hands.'

4m 01s "The main plan of the ISLAMISTS is to destroy Western civilisation.
They have said so themselves."

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