It's pretty obvious why there has not been a nuclear war since Hiroshima. The nuclear powers realise what a catastrophe such an exchange would be. The West, China, and India do not have a death wish. That cannot be said of Islam. Even the Pakistani nuclear arsenal is under the control of the secular institution.

Those officers and ministers may pay lip-service to Mohammedanism, but they don't share the death wish of the rag-head fanatics in the street, who believe the same bullshit the Ayatollahs and Gandalf believe.

And then there is Israel.

Never mind that the radiation would be in their own backyard. Brian Ross (he wants you to know he's a doctor of divinity) states as fact that Israel is holding its Arab neighbours hostage with the threat of nuclear attack. Israel has never threatened nuclear war. Ross DD is a liar.

But he will respond by saying (like Gandalf) everyone knows Israel has a nuclear arsenal. You see how such statement twists the truth? In one sentence, Israel become the aggressor, when if fact the Arabs have sworn time and again, in their typical hot-head manner, that they will annihilate Israel.

But that does not matter to Ross DD, because he is pro-Arab, and anti-Israel. Which would be OK if he'd admit which side he's on. But, like Gandalf, he uses pseudo-progressive language to give the impression he is objective. If the nuclear powers allow such weapons to be developed by Islamic religious ratbags, they would be arming the suicidal enemy of pluralism, multiculturalism, secularism, and democracy (that is unless they can get enough Islamic ratbags into a democratic country.)

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 11^th, 2019 at 11:51am:

The Arabs  are doing just that and Israel is not nuking anyone. You have to be total nobsocket to hint at the possibility. Must be the missing half-brain, Spot, old halfwit.

freediver wrote on Jan 10^th, 2019 at 8:48pm:


Doing so is not going to wipe out our entire species - obviously. Only 100s of ICBMS launched all at once (or something along those lines) could ever do that.

If Israel nukes Iran

OR

Iran nukes Israel

Both will die.

Unless the wind stops....

And how many others will be affected...!?

Gandalf are you conceding that there are uses for guns besides killing people?

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 14^th, 2019 at 7:39am:


Are Muslims to stupid to coordinate 100s of trucks with bombs in them? What do you think they could manage? One truck per week?

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 14^th, 2019 at 2:26pm:


Saying they are both plausible scenarios is not saying they are the same scenario Gandalf. True, Muslims have their own incompetence on their side, but going against them is their inclinations towards organised acts of evil. You cannot appeal to one without acknowledging the other.

freediver wrote on Jan 14^th, 2019 at 7:38pm:


Right, well if you were introducing irrelevant red herrings that had nothing to do with what I was talking about - why didn't you just say so? Instead of pretending you were actually addressing my argument?

Do you actually disagree with my point that muslims running around trying to coordinate thousands of trucks with nukes (LOL) does not even remotely pose the same risk to humanity as Donald Trump pressing the button and launching his 4000 odd ICBM loaded nukes anywhere he likes around the world?

freediver wrote on Jan 14^th, 2019 at 9:36pm:


Are you seriously suggesting that it will be inevitable that muslims and/or tinpot dictators will develop the means to literally wipe out humanity with nukes - when all the world's most powerful nations will be united in stopping them - backed with more than enough conventional firepower to wipe them off the map if they so desired?

freediver wrote on Jan 14^th, 2019 at 9:36pm:


I used to shoot at rabbits and foxes (don't think I ever hit one though) and euthenise sheep with them. Yes, I was being hyperbolic as you can obviously use guns for hunting and target practice - but they are not essential. Baiting, trapping and fumigating is far more effective to control rabbits and foxes, and farmers can easily be supplied with injections to euthenise suffering stock. The Port Arthur reforms have drastically restricted gun access for the average Australian - and thank God. We used to permanently keep a .22 rifle in our ute, and the shotgun (a semi-automatic to boot) sitting in the kitchen in case Dad spotted a starling or sparrow out the back - was a near permanent feature. Guns were just part of my childhood, and I thought nothing of them. Now I shudder in disbelief thinking back to that time. Especially that ancient .22 Lithgow with the dodgy pin. And like many farmers, I was incensed when the gun laws were introduced after Port Arthur, but now I just say "thank God". They weren't just laws, it changed our whole culture. Its no longer acceptable to just dismiss guns as part of the furniture. They are deadly dangerous killing machines. The gun reforms has been one of the best reforms this country has ever seen, and God willing we will soon get to the stage where we no longer think its acceptable to have *ANY* guns in society. Port Arthur took us more than half way in that journey - thats how much we've progressed.