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Jan 5th, 2019 at 6:20am
 
https://www.smh.com.au/opinion/australia-still-plagued-by-destructive-policies-o...

Just nails the failures and ongoing problems this country faces
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Reply #1 - Jan 5th, 2019 at 7:30am
 
Lovely to see all the pigeons coming home to roost... and Howard is not the only 'elder statesperson' who is guilty of some dreadful things done to this nation.

The little pr1ck also brought in the stupid idea that those thrown under a bus with work and divorce and such should 'be responsible' by participating in stupid  schemes that did nothing for them.  Those thrown onto unemployment benefits and such were dictated to that they would 'responsibly support their kids' etc by a minimum charge that they could no way afford given the real value of such benefits, and their often lack of responsibility for any marriage breakup etc, this being primarily the women's domain these days.

If ever there was a candidate for the first public trial and hanging - it's him - and then his treasurer.

Then there are a few others at state level who need to face the guillotine and have their fat retirement cut off to pay for their crimes.

A cruel, selfish and vicious little man, the classical toxic dwarf and hater of others taller and better looking, handed the reins of a stupid government of a stupid nation that should always have known better.
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oh dear

another HATE FILLED THREAD FROM THE HATE FILLED LEFT...

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cods wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 7:54am:
oh dear

another HATE FILLED THREAD FROM THE HATE FILLED LEFT...



Did you actually read the article codsy!

It was all pretty true though as far as I could see.
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Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 8:01am:
cods wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 7:54am:
oh dear

another HATE FILLED THREAD FROM THE HATE FILLED LEFT...



Did you actually read the article codsy!

It was all pretty true though as far as I could see.



paywall pet... if he was as bad as the herald claims..

why was he the second longest serving PM....even beating that sad sack Hawke..

no HATE filled lefty ever gives any lib any credit..

you know that..
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btw red what Howard done to deserve this????????????

he hasnt been in politics since 2007............
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cods wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 8:09am:
btw red what Howard done to deserve this????????????

he hasnt been in politics since 2007.
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Probally the same reason the righties keep harping back for decades about labor, eh.
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macman wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 8:26am:
cods wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 8:09am:
btw red what Howard done to deserve this????????????

he hasnt been in politics since 2007.
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Probally the same reason the righties keep harping back for decades about labor, eh.



which news paper does that Mac??>..do you have a link...
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cods wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 7:54am:
oh dear

another HATE FILLED THREAD FROM THE HATE FILLED LEFT...




Truth hurts....
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cods wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 8:08am:
why was he the second longest serving PM



You obviously didnt read the article.

Pissed the mining boom up against the wall with unwarranted tax cuts  and pork barrelling to win elections.

Not to mention all the other crap we still cant afford years later such as

Speaking of tax, Howard introduced the over-60 superannuation tax holiday, other super concessions, family payments to middle-income households, age-based tax concessions, and lots of income-tax breaks for middle to higher-income households. These have been difficult if not impossible to wind back and have increased inequality in Australia.

In short, Howard squandered the mining boom on buying votes and allowing miners to be lightly taxed.


In education, he dramatically increased federal funding to private schools ,which they largely spent on non-educational luxuries. He starved public schools. The result is the worsening scores Australia gets on national and international testing. Again, it has been difficult to unwind because of the demand that "no school should be worse off", which Julia Gillard was forced to accede to.

In health, Howard's government corroded Medicare by misdirecting money into tax deductions for inefficient private health insurance. Again, they are hard to unwind. Howard set the stage for the present return to the 1960s in the health system – one in which many people cannot afford to pay for healthcare.


With infrastructure, Howard was a master of the pork barrel. The regional partnership program was biased towards Coalition and marginal seats. We have mentioned the Defence joint HQ. The priority given to the Alice-to-Darwin railway was another big spend in a marginal seat, instead of being part of the orderly construction of a national rail network in which the Melbourne-Brisbane link was the obvious priority.

Better read the whole article cods!

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Reply #10 - Jan 5th, 2019 at 8:41am
 
cods wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 8:08am:
Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 8:01am:
cods wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 7:54am:
oh dear

another HATE FILLED THREAD FROM THE HATE FILLED LEFT...



Did you actually read the article codsy!

It was all pretty true though as far as I could see.



paywall pet... if he was as bad as the herald claims..

why was he the second longest serving PM....even beating that sad sack Hawke..

no HATE filled lefty ever gives any lib any credit..

you know that..


That was his biggest problem - a toxic dwarf left too long in the top seat and thinking he was god... he thought he was invincible until his electorate threw him out on his arse - people take a long time to wake up but eventually they do.

A desperate little man, and when he was touring the country  pre-election and lobbed with our local ABC radio, I cornered him over the issue of two classes of pensioners - OAP and Disability - with DSPs not getting utilities allowance when many had extra power costs etc... the moment he was cornered, he immediately went to the party fall-back position and said that DSPs would henceforth be getting the utilities allowance. Well, well.... that was in the pack ready to go all along - he just needed to be confronted with it... talk about sneaky... if he hadn't been cornered it would have simply gone on.

I got the little rat there... and damned proud of it.  Cool
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Reply #11 - Jan 5th, 2019 at 8:44am
 
Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 8:37am:
cods wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 8:08am:
why was he the second longest serving PM



You obviously didnt read the article.

Pissed the mining boom up against the wall with unwarranted tax cuts  and pork barrelling to win elections.

Not to mention all the other crap we still cant afford years later such as

Speaking of tax, Howard introduced the over-60 superannuation tax holiday, other super concessions, family payments to middle-income households, age-based tax concessions, and lots of income-tax breaks for middle to higher-income households. These have been difficult if not impossible to wind back and have increased inequality in Australia.

In short, Howard squandered the mining boom on buying votes and allowing miners to be lightly taxed.


In education, he dramatically increased federal funding to private schools ,which they largely spent on non-educational luxuries. He starved public schools. The result is the worsening scores Australia gets on national and international testing. Again, it has been difficult to unwind because of the demand that "no school should be worse off", which Julia Gillard was forced to accede to.

In health, Howard's government corroded Medicare by misdirecting money into tax deductions for inefficient private health insurance. Again, they are hard to unwind. Howard set the stage for the present return to the 1960s in the health system – one in which many people cannot afford to pay for healthcare.


With infrastructure, Howard was a master of the pork barrel. The regional partnership program was biased towards Coalition and marginal seats. We have mentioned the Defence joint HQ. The priority given to the Alice-to-Darwin railway was another big spend in a marginal seat, instead of being part of the orderly construction of a national rail network in which the Melbourne-Brisbane link was the obvious priority.

Better read the whole article cods!





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have you forgotten labors WHITE BOARD..
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Reply #12 - Jan 5th, 2019 at 8:56am
 
cods wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 8:09am:
btw red what Howard done to deserve this????????????

he hasn't been in politics since 2007............


I think it is because as shown a lot of today's problems are based on what Howard had done back then. I don't agree with it all but a lot of it is spot on.
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Reply #13 - Jan 5th, 2019 at 8:59am
 
cods wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 8:44am:
Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 8:37am:
cods wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 8:08am:
why was he the second longest serving PM



You obviously didnt read the article.

Pissed the mining boom up against the wall with unwarranted tax cuts  and pork barrelling to win elections.

Not to mention all the other crap we still cant afford years later such as

Speaking of tax, Howard introduced the over-60 superannuation tax holiday, other super concessions, family payments to middle-income households, age-based tax concessions, and lots of income-tax breaks for middle to higher-income households. These have been difficult if not impossible to wind back and have increased inequality in Australia.

In short, Howard squandered the mining boom on buying votes and allowing miners to be lightly taxed.


In education, he dramatically increased federal funding to private schools ,which they largely spent on non-educational luxuries. He starved public schools. The result is the worsening scores Australia gets on national and international testing. Again, it has been difficult to unwind because of the demand that "no school should be worse off", which Julia Gillard was forced to accede to.

In health, Howard's government corroded Medicare by misdirecting money into tax deductions for inefficient private health insurance. Again, they are hard to unwind. Howard set the stage for the present return to the 1960s in the health system – one in which many people cannot afford to pay for healthcare.


With infrastructure, Howard was a master of the pork barrel. The regional partnership program was biased towards Coalition and marginal seats. We have mentioned the Defence joint HQ. The priority given to the Alice-to-Darwin railway was another big spend in a marginal seat, instead of being part of the orderly construction of a national rail network in which the Melbourne-Brisbane link was the obvious priority.

Better read the whole article cods!





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have you forgotten labors WHITE BOARD..


SO DID YOU READ IT THOROUGHLY!

ALL PRETTY TRUE YOU WOULD HAVE TO AGREE!

Wink
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Reply #14 - Jan 5th, 2019 at 9:25am
 
cods wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 8:44am:
Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 8:37am:
cods wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 8:08am:
why was he the second longest serving PM



You obviously didnt read the article.

Pissed the mining boom up against the wall with unwarranted tax cuts  and pork barrelling to win elections.

Not to mention all the other crap we still cant afford years later such as

Speaking of tax, Howard introduced the over-60 superannuation tax holiday, other super concessions, family payments to middle-income households, age-based tax concessions, and lots of income-tax breaks for middle to higher-income households. These have been difficult if not impossible to wind back and have increased inequality in Australia.

In short, Howard squandered the mining boom on buying votes and allowing miners to be lightly taxed.


In education, he dramatically increased federal funding to private schools ,which they largely spent on non-educational luxuries. He starved public schools. The result is the worsening scores Australia gets on national and international testing. Again, it has been difficult to unwind because of the demand that "no school should be worse off", which Julia Gillard was forced to accede to.

In health, Howard's government corroded Medicare by misdirecting money into tax deductions for inefficient private health insurance. Again, they are hard to unwind. Howard set the stage for the present return to the 1960s in the health system – one in which many people cannot afford to pay for healthcare.


With infrastructure, Howard was a master of the pork barrel. The regional partnership program was biased towards Coalition and marginal seats. We have mentioned the Defence joint HQ. The priority given to the Alice-to-Darwin railway was another big spend in a marginal seat, instead of being part of the orderly construction of a national rail network in which the Melbourne-Brisbane link was the obvious priority.

Better read the whole article cods!





  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

have you forgotten labors WHITE BOARD..


They all use white boards or the equivalent to work out where to put OUR money... you don't imagine they just leave it up to thought bubbles from one person, do you?  They put it all up there one way or another for a room full of experts and participants to look at and offer suggestions.  Is there some fundamental difference between a white board and a fancy projector with a laser stick?

The ONLY 'issue' with the infamous White Board was that apparently it showed favouritism for Labor and marginal seats.. well... nothing new at all there, but a fine piece of propaganda/theatre but ultimately meaningless other than as a political stunt and finger pointing over nothing unusual.

How do you imagine the big boys in the LNP work out where they're going to put OUR money, cods?  Just make it up on the fly?
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Reply #15 - Jan 5th, 2019 at 10:10am
 
cods wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 8:44am:
have you forgotten labors WHITE BOARD..


The white board is an essential tool for Governing the country Cods???



Quote:
Security guards at Parliament House roll out a whiteboard to stop the media filming Michaelia Cash arriving at an estimates committee hearing. Cash used the hearing to unconditionally withdraw the remarks she made in Senate estimates on Wednesday about staff working for the opposition leader, Bill Shorten.


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Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 8:59am:
cods wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 8:44am:
Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 8:37am:
cods wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 8:08am:
why was he the second longest serving PM



You obviously didnt read the article.

Pissed the mining boom up against the wall with unwarranted tax cuts  and pork barrelling to win elections.

Not to mention all the other crap we still cant afford years later such as

Speaking of tax, Howard introduced the over-60 superannuation tax holiday, other super concessions, family payments to middle-income households, age-based tax concessions, and lots of income-tax breaks for middle to higher-income households. These have been difficult if not impossible to wind back and have increased inequality in Australia.

In short, Howard squandered the mining boom on buying votes and allowing miners to be lightly taxed.


In education, he dramatically increased federal funding to private schools ,which they largely spent on non-educational luxuries. He starved public schools. The result is the worsening scores Australia gets on national and international testing. Again, it has been difficult to unwind because of the demand that "no school should be worse off", which Julia Gillard was forced to accede to.

In health, Howard's government corroded Medicare by misdirecting money into tax deductions for inefficient private health insurance. Again, they are hard to unwind. Howard set the stage for the present return to the 1960s in the health system – one in which many people cannot afford to pay for healthcare.


With infrastructure, Howard was a master of the pork barrel. The regional partnership program was biased towards Coalition and marginal seats. We have mentioned the Defence joint HQ. The priority given to the Alice-to-Darwin railway was another big spend in a marginal seat, instead of being part of the orderly construction of a national rail network in which the Melbourne-Brisbane link was the obvious priority.

Better read the whole article cods!





  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

have you forgotten labors WHITE BOARD..


SO DID YOU READ IT THOROUGHLY!

ALL PRETTY TRUE YOU WOULD HAVE TO AGREE!

Wink



its got paywall. not interested in the bits you like..
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Reply #17 - Jan 5th, 2019 at 1:18pm
 
That's half of it quoted verbatim... not that hard to follow.. I doubt the rest is going to highly praise Fuhrer Johnnie... that little pr1ck with the huge ego problem and not much to back it up apart from his sense of self-worth....

Been waiting a long time to see that little bastard publicly pilloried for the things he did... now those chickens coming home to roost look like dragons about to fall on his roof...

Just give me one week in government - we'll roll things back to Realityworld and start again...
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"Let's go wider afield. On housing affordability, Howard introduced the capital-gains-tax concession; bolstered the first-home buyers' grant; and boosted immigration – all putting pressure on housing demand. Investor entry into the housing market took off from the moment the capital-gains-tax concession began. We wallow helplessly in the backwash of these idiotic decisions.

Speaking of tax, Howard introduced the over-60 superannuation tax holiday, other super concessions, family payments to middle-income households, age-based tax concessions, and lots of income-tax breaks for middle to higher-income households. These have been difficult if not impossible to wind back and have increased inequality in Australia.

In short, Howard squandered the mining boom on buying votes and allowing miners to be lightly taxed.
In education, he dramatically increased federal funding to private schools ,which they largely spent on non-educational luxuries. He starved public schools. The result is the worsening scores Australia gets on national and international testing. Again, it has been difficult to unwind because of the demand that "no school should be worse off", which Julia Gillard was forced to accede to.

In health, Howard's government corroded Medicare by misdirecting money into tax deductions for inefficient private health insurance. Again, they are hard to unwind. Howard set the stage for the present return to the 1960s in the health system – one in which many people cannot afford to pay for healthcare.

We now bemoan the casualisation of the workforce, underemployment and low wages growth. A lot of that is down to Howard's industrial-relations policies, culminating in WorkChoices.

With infrastructure, Howard was a master of the pork barrel. The regional partnership program was biased towards Coalition and marginal seats. We have mentioned the Defence joint HQ. The priority given to the Alice-to-Darwin railway was another big spend in a marginal seat, instead of being part of the orderly construction of a national rail network in which the Melbourne-Brisbane link was the obvious priority.

The misspend is still sounding in infrastructure deficits today. It took Labor to set up Infrastructure Australia to expose the pork barrels and put a bit of economic rationality into the system.

Howard politicised the public service when he sacked six department heads upon coming into power. Abbott followed suit, It was followed by Abbott when he sacking three when he came into office. Again, a bad Howard precedent becoming the new norm.

In Indigenous affairs, Howard's legacy was the abolition of the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Commission; the intervention; the failure to say sorry to the stolen generation; and the mishandling of constitutional recognition.

On other iconic questions, he created historic mischief. He divided and ruled on the 1999 republic referendum instead of being a national leader. He demanded his party members vote for an antiquated definition of marriage; we still have division in our society when our English-speaking and European friends and allies have all grown up.

He joined a liberal party when it was what he called a "broad church", then, in power, he systematically removed everything left of the nave and made it the conservative party in which Malcolm Turnbull is having difficulty finding a pew.

Yes, he implemented gun control, but that was fairly easy in a nation just shocked by the largest mass gun murder in history to that date.

Yes, Australia broke records for continuous economic growth, but, again, this was fairly easy after the Hawke-Keating reforms and a mining boom.

Yes, Howard implemented the GST, but it was only half the job that New Zealand did because of the Senate. But Howard did not revisit the tax later when he had a Senate majority.

Returning to energy, Howard followed the US out of the Kyoto agreement. He reluctantly agreed that a carbon tax would be worthwhile but did nothing about it. He encouraged the states to privatise electricity and, in 1998, set up the national electricity market based on market principles – meaning electricity network owners, suppliers and retailers could screw consumers and small business.

In all, a do-nothing ditherer like Turnbull or McMahon is a better proposition than someone who put in train changes which have made Australia a poorer, less equitable place and which have been very difficult to undo.
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No paywall here...... so here it is in full.... now discuss - I'm off to the club for a beer on this hot, hot day....

"As our agile, innovative, laissez-faire, small-government Prime Minister grapples with the contradictions of regulating gas exports and propping up the dying coal industry with public money, people might ponder anew the question of who has been the worse Coalition prime minister in recent history. Malcolm Turnbull himself? Tony Abbott? Billy McMahon?

No, no and no.

Surely, when you look at history, the distinction must go to John Howard. When you look back, you see that virtually every governmental trouble afflicting Australia now had its genesis in one or another of the Howard government's policies.

Where do we start? Perhaps with one of the worst government decisions made since the Vietnam debacle: the decision to commit Australian forces to the second Iraq War.
In the past fortnight, Fairfax Media revealed proof of what we had already strongly suspected: that Howard led us into Iraq just to please the Americans and that the decision was based on a falsity.

That decision cost a lot of blood and treasure and sucked Australia into the vortex of terrorism. The disclosure of the government's; deliberate reliance on false intelligence also contributed significantly to the corrosive distrust of government – which continues to afflict us. Remember, he was called "mean and tricky" by one of his own team.

It is the new norm. The 2014 budget was mean. Blaming blackouts on renewables is tricky.

The Iraq decision led to the expensive and liberty-reducing "war on terror", which still continues.

Other poor defence decisions of Howard's were the construction of the Defence Headquarters Joint Operations Command in a paddock in the marginal electorate of Eden-Monaro, and joining the troubled United States-led F-35 joint strike fighter program at vast unnecessary cost.


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Struggling with the cold hard facts
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I think you are allowed a certain amount of free content per month???

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Reply #23 - Jan 5th, 2019 at 5:31pm
 
cods wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 8:08am:
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oh dear

another HATE FILLED THREAD FROM THE HATE FILLED LEFT...



Did you actually read the article codsy!

It was all pretty true though as far as I could see.



paywall pet... if he was as bad as the herald claims..

why was he the second longest serving PM....even beating that sad sack Hawke..

no HATE filled lefty ever gives any lib any credit..

you know that..


In 2007, I sat across a dinner table from Tim Fischer, ex-deputy PM.  He and I had a long conversation about Howard and his government.   He agreed with my view that Howard had been in for too long and was likely to be defeated at the next election.   He felt that the Work Choices police was a "policy too far".   He also agreed that Howard should have resigned six month's previously.   No one however saw that Howard would be only the second sitting PM to lose his own seat in an election.  Howard got what he deserved, Cods.

Now, if a Conservative like Fischer who had worked closely with Howard could see Howard's faults, Cods.  Why can't you?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 5:31pm:
cods wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 8:08am:
Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 8:01am:
cods wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 7:54am:
oh dear

another HATE FILLED THREAD FROM THE HATE FILLED LEFT...



Did you actually read the article codsy!

It was all pretty true though as far as I could see.



paywall pet... if he was as bad as the herald claims..

why was he the second longest serving PM....even beating that sad sack Hawke..

no HATE filled lefty ever gives any lib any credit..

you know that..


In 2007, I sat across a dinner table from Tim Fischer, ex-deputy PM.  He and I had a long conversation about Howard and his government.   He agreed with my view that Howard had been in for too long and was likely to be defeated at the next election.   He felt that the Work Choices police was a "policy too far".   He also agreed that Howard should have resigned six month's previously.   No one however saw that Howard would be only the second sitting PM to lose his own seat in an election.  Howard got what he deserved, Cods.

Now, if a Conservative like Fischer who had worked closely with Howard could see Howard's faults, Cods.  Why can't you?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Yeah - but Tim Fischer had an MC from Coral 1968, and a mentally disabled son to contend with... not too bad a conservative in many ways.
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btw red what Howard done to deserve this????????????

he hasnt been in politics since 2007............

Does he keep his mouth shut? Does he keep out of the media? No, and no.
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The worst thing that the Howard government did was the unavoidable tax cuts.

This was the reason we came out of the GFC with deficits that have continued to today. Howard had locked in government spending at a higher level than Australia's long term government income expectation.

Howard gave away money in election bribes that was needed to pay the bills.

Had the tax cut money been spent on infrastructure government income would have been around 4% higher and there would have been no deficits coming out of the GFC. 
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Reply #27 - Jan 13th, 2019 at 6:43pm
 
Howard is one of the best PM's we've ever had and this article completely ignores the catastrophe that was the Rudd-Gillard-Rudd2.0 years. Best use for this article is toilet paper. Oh, and by the way, if when you talk about "basher" you're referring to Tony Abbott, you need to get your facts straight. If the accusing woman is to believed (and she still refuses to make her statement on a statutory declaration), then he punched a wall near her. That's a distinction you still seem unable to comprehend. A wall and a person are not the same thing. Surely even a person of diminished IQ would be able to understand that difference!
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Dnarever wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 9:03pm:
The worst thing that the Howard government did was the un-affordable tax cuts.

This was the reason we came out of the GFC with deficits that have continued to today. Howard had locked in government spending at a higher level than Australia's long term government income expectation.

Howard gave away money in election bribes that was needed to pay the bills.

Had the tax cut money been spent on infrastructure government income would have been around 4% higher and there would have been no deficits coming out of the GFC. 


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Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 13th, 2019 at 6:43pm:
Howard is one of the best PM's we've ever had and this article completely ignores the catastrophe that was the Rudd-Gillard-Rudd2.0 years. Best use for this article is toilet paper. Oh, and by the way, if when you talk about "basher" you're referring to Tony Abbott, you need to get your facts straight. If the accusing woman is to believed (and she still refuses to make her statement on a statutory declaration), then he punched a wall near her. That's a distinction you still seem unable to comprehend. A wall and a person are not the same thing. Surely even a person of diminished IQ would be able to understand that difference!


Which part of article specifically?  Or just all of the article you didn't read  Wink
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Facts get in the way of beliefs.  PM Howard made many long term bad decisions.  And got away with children overboard and WMD in Iraq.
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Howard is one of the best PM's we've ever had and this article completely ignores the catastrophe that was the Rudd-Gillard-Rudd2.0 years. Best use for this article is toilet paper. Oh, and by the way, if when you talk about "basher" you're referring to Tony Abbott, you need to get your facts straight. If the accusing woman is to believed (and she still refuses to make her statement on a statutory declaration), then he punched a wall near her. That's a distinction you still seem unable to comprehend. A wall and a person are not the same thing. Surely even a person of diminished IQ would be able to understand that difference!


Howard was by far the least honest PM we ever had and the reason that we ended up with a decade of deficits following his incompetence.

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If the accusing woman is to believed (and she still refuses to make her statement on a statutory declaration), then he punched a wall near her.


Yes a thug and a bully but according to you that is OK.

OH and yes grabbing a defenceless young girl pushing her against a wall and punching the wall next to her head is a cowardly assault.
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Dnarever wrote on Jan 13th, 2019 at 8:49pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 13th, 2019 at 6:43pm:
Howard is one of the best PM's we've ever had and this article completely ignores the catastrophe that was the Rudd-Gillard-Rudd2.0 years. Best use for this article is toilet paper. Oh, and by the way, if when you talk about "basher" you're referring to Tony Abbott, you need to get your facts straight. If the accusing woman is to believed (and she still refuses to make her statement on a statutory declaration), then he punched a wall near her. That's a distinction you still seem unable to comprehend. A wall and a person are not the same thing. Surely even a person of diminished IQ would be able to understand that difference!


Howard was by far the least honest PM we ever had and the reason that we ended up with a decade of deficits following his incompetence.

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If the accusing woman is to believed (and she still refuses to make her statement on a statutory declaration), then he punched a wall near her.


Yes a thug and a bully but according to you that is OK.

OH and yes grabbing a defenceless young girl pushing her against a wall and punching the wall next to her head is a cowardly assault.


Now you're making random crap up. That's never been part of the woman's unsubstantiated allegation. As for being dishonest, that's just nonsense too. I assume you're referring to the GST (which he changed his mind about AND took to an election, unlike Gillard's carbon tax lie) and Iraqi WMDs, which saw him relying on dodgy intel information from the US and UK. You simply can't stand him because he made Keating look like the fool he is by paying off his debt and helping Australia flourish.
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Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 7:08am:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 13th, 2019 at 8:49pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 13th, 2019 at 6:43pm:
Howard is one of the best PM's we've ever had and this article completely ignores the catastrophe that was the Rudd-Gillard-Rudd2.0 years. Best use for this article is toilet paper. Oh, and by the way, if when you talk about "basher" you're referring to Tony Abbott, you need to get your facts straight. If the accusing woman is to believed (and she still refuses to make her statement on a statutory declaration), then he punched a wall near her. That's a distinction you still seem unable to comprehend. A wall and a person are not the same thing. Surely even a person of diminished IQ would be able to understand that difference!


Howard was by far the least honest PM we ever had and the reason that we ended up with a decade of deficits following his incompetence.

Quote:
If the accusing woman is to believed (and she still refuses to make her statement on a statutory declaration), then he punched a wall near her.


Yes a thug and a bully but according to you that is OK.

OH and yes grabbing a defenceless young girl pushing her against a wall and punching the wall next to her head is a cowardly assault.


Now you're making random crap up. That's never been part of the woman's unsubstantiated allegation. As for being dishonest, that's just nonsense too. I assume you're referring to the GST (which he changed his mind about AND took to an election, unlike Gillard's carbon tax lie) and Iraqi WMDs, which saw him relying on dodgy intel information from the US and UK. You simply can't stand him because he made Keating look like the fool he is by paying off his debt and helping Australia flourish.


Howard only paid down debt because of the economy that Keating left him.

They were some of Howard's lies but he seemed to have many more on almost any topic the GST, Children overboard, the waterfront dispute, New taxes, AWB, David Hicks, workchoices, climate change, IR etc.

His own Liberal mates called him the Lying rodent. There were good reasons, rodents have been trying to get an apology for 2 decades.
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He is not the shittiest PM ever that one goes to Kevin 'Ming' Rudd

A man who promised so much and delivered not only little but set the Country on the 'pink batt' madness where it resulted in an industry of cowboys in which lives were lost

Kevin Rudd who was 'officer in charge of everything' resulting in chaotic Government when he didn't trust his fellow M.P.s to carry out their portfolios
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red baron wrote on Jan 17th, 2019 at 11:48am:
He is not the shittiest PM ever that one goes to Kevin 'Ming' Rudd

A man who promised so much and delivered not only little but set the Country on the 'pink batt' madness where it resulted in an industry of cowboys in which lives were lost

Kevin Rudd who was 'officer in charge of everything' resulting in chaotic Government when he didn't trust his fellow M.P.s to carry out their portfolios


How is 'Ming' relevant to Rudd?
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red baron wrote on Jan 17th, 2019 at 11:48am:
He is not the shittiest PM ever that one goes to Kevin 'Ming' Rudd

A man who promised so much and delivered not only little but set the Country on the 'pink batt' madness where it resulted in an industry of cowboys in which lives were lost

Kevin Rudd who was 'officer in charge of everything' resulting in chaotic Government when he didn't trust his fellow M.P.s to carry out their portfolios


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red baron wrote on Jan 17th, 2019 at 11:48am:
He is not the shittiest PM ever that one goes to Kevin 'Ming' Rudd

A man who promised so much and delivered not only little but set the Country on the 'pink batt' madness where it resulted in an industry of cowboys in which lives were lost

Kevin Rudd who was 'officer in charge of everything' resulting in chaotic Government when he didn't trust his fellow M.P.s to carry out their portfolios

The body count from this government's policies is far higher.

How many people have died in immigration detention?

How many people have died while waiting for surgery due to cuts in health spending?

How many people have died by suicide after being forced onto the so-called cashless welfare card?
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Bam wrote on Jan 17th, 2019 at 2:49pm:
red baron wrote on Jan 17th, 2019 at 11:48am:
He is not the shittiest PM ever that one goes to Kevin 'Ming' Rudd

A man who promised so much and delivered not only little but set the Country on the 'pink batt' madness where it resulted in an industry of cowboys in which lives were lost

Kevin Rudd who was 'officer in charge of everything' resulting in chaotic Government when he didn't trust his fellow M.P.s to carry out their portfolios

The body count from this government's policies is far higher.

How many people have died in immigration detention?

How many people have died while waiting for surgery due to cuts in health spending?

How many people have died by suicide after being forced onto the so-called cashless welfare card?


Silent deaths don't count i suppose.
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I  have dubbed him Rudd 'Ming' in   honour of the fact that he was and still is as far as I know buried  right up the Chinese arses
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Hey stunspore check your facts it was Labor who started Manus Island detention centre

The Libs had to come in and clean up the whole sorry mess of people smuggling

Don't worry I'm sure it will start up again as soon as  Shortarse becomes P.M.

You don't have any facts to back up your ludicrous health claims either
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red baron wrote on Jan 17th, 2019 at 3:18pm:
I  have dubbed him Rudd 'Ming' in   honour of the fact that he was and still is as far as I know buried  right up the Chinese arses


I think you are confusing him with Robb. 
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red baron wrote on Jan 17th, 2019 at 3:21pm:
Hey stunspore check your facts it was Labor who started Manus Island detention centre

The Libs had to come in and clean up the whole sorry mess of people smuggling

Don't worry I'm sure it will start up again as soon as  Shortarse becomes P.M.

You don't have any facts to back up your ludicrous health claims either


"HUNDREDS of West Australians died while waiting for surgery last year, a new report reveals.

"The Australian Institute of Health and Welfare report on waiting times for elective surgery showed 1003 patients in WA died while waiting for surgery, or could not be contacted, in 2015-16.

"A total of 7295 patients across the country died on the wait list, with NSW and Victoria each recording 2234 deaths."


Australian Institute of Health and Welfare report found hundreds died waiting for surgery

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Reply #44 - Jan 17th, 2019 at 5:06pm
 
Will morrison retain his seat like john howard after change of government?  Whoops..that didn't happen with little johnny..
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Not confusing him with anyone Aussie including 'Ming' Menzies just think that title fits in so many, many ways.."Ming' Rudd yeah..... like how that rolls off the tongue
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red baron wrote on Jan 17th, 2019 at 5:36pm:
Not confusing him with anyone Aussie including 'Ming' Menzies just think that title fits in so many, many ways.."Ming' Rudd yeah..... like how that rolls off the tongue


Do you even know who Robb is?  Was Menzies known as 'Ming' or some other name?

Rudd has never been connected with any close association with China other than being a failure in the language.
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red baron wrote on Jan 17th, 2019 at 11:48am:
He is not the shittiest PM ever that one goes to Kevin 'Ming' Rudd

A man who promised so much and delivered not only little but set the Country on the 'pink batt' madness where it resulted in an industry of cowboys in which lives were lost

Kevin Rudd who was 'officer in charge of everything' resulting in chaotic Government when he didn't trust his fellow M.P.s to carry out their portfolios


Did you know that the Howard government allowed the metal bats and gave them awards ? The problems that emerged under the Rudd government had been going on for a decade it was the numbers under Rudd that Highlighted the issue.

Without Rudd's incentive to insulate homes we would likely still have homes burning down because of them today.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 17th, 2019 at 3:29pm:
red baron wrote on Jan 17th, 2019 at 3:21pm:
Hey stunspore check your facts it was Labor who started Manus Island detention centre

The Libs had to come in and clean up the whole sorry mess of people smuggling

Don't worry I'm sure it will start up again as soon as  Shortarse becomes P.M.

You don't have any facts to back up your ludicrous health claims either


"HUNDREDS of West Australians died while waiting for surgery last year, a new report reveals.

"The Australian Institute of Health and Welfare report on waiting times for elective surgery showed 1003 patients in WA died while waiting for surgery, or could not be contacted, in 2015-16.

"A total of 7295 patients across the country died on the wait list, with NSW and Victoria each recording 2234 deaths."


Australian Institute of Health and Welfare report found hundreds died waiting for surgery




Red?   Undecided
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Aussie wrote on Jan 17th, 2019 at 6:17pm:
red baron wrote on Jan 17th, 2019 at 5:36pm:
Not confusing him with anyone Aussie including 'Ming' Menzies just think that title fits in so many, many ways.."Ming' Rudd yeah..... like how that rolls off the tongue


Do you even know who Robb is?  Was Menzies known as 'Ming' or some other name?

Rudd has never been connected with any close association with China other than being a failure in the language.


Menzies nickname was Ming. Based on his heritage.

The Scottish pronunciation of his name is Mingees or something close.

Pig iron bob or Chairman Ming.
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Maybe there is a way for Morrison to win...might not be the worst, but in as a little as 5 months made so many mistakes.
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This is just embarrassing.  Roll Eyes

The denial of the Aboriginal Voice followed by this little tableau:

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Toe-curlingly embarrassing.  Embarrassed
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Reply #52 - Jan 23rd, 2019 at 1:12pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jan 17th, 2019 at 6:56pm:
Aussie wrote on Jan 17th, 2019 at 6:17pm:
red baron wrote on Jan 17th, 2019 at 5:36pm:
Not confusing him with anyone Aussie including 'Ming' Menzies just think that title fits in so many, many ways.."Ming' Rudd yeah..... like how that rolls off the tongue


Do you even know who Robb is?  Was Menzies known as 'Ming' or some other name?

Rudd has never been connected with any close association with China other than being a failure in the language.


Menzies nickname was Ming. Based on his heritage.

The Scottish pronunciation of his name is Mingees or something close.

Pig iron bob or Chairman Ming.

The correct spelling was once Menȝies (Mengies) where the ȝ (yogh) was an insular form of g. Early modern typefaces usually didn't have the yogh so it got approximated with something like ʒ and then conflated with z.
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Reply #53 - Jan 23rd, 2019 at 1:17pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 10:40am:
This is just embarrassing.  Roll Eyes

The denial of the Aboriginal Voice followed by this little tableau:

https://i.imgur.com/zsWN5VS.jpg
Toe-curlingly embarrassing.  Embarrassed

That picture shows just how fake this caretaker PM is.

"Duh ... I'm going to sit down next to some aborigines while holding a spear, yes, that will convince the voters I care about aborigines!"

You can see his marketing background quite clearly here. That could have been a marketing photo shoot for daggy dadwear.
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Reply #54 - Jan 23rd, 2019 at 1:23pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jan 17th, 2019 at 6:56pm:
Aussie wrote on Jan 17th, 2019 at 6:17pm:
red baron wrote on Jan 17th, 2019 at 5:36pm:
Not confusing him with anyone Aussie including 'Ming' Menzies just think that title fits in so many, many ways.."Ming' Rudd yeah..... like how that rolls off the tongue


Do you even know who Robb is?  Was Menzies known as 'Ming' or some other name?

Rudd has never been connected with any close association with China other than being a failure in the language.


Menzies nickname was Ming. Based on his heritage.

The Scottish pronunciation of his name is Mingees or something close.

Pig iron bob or Chairman Ming.



Actually, it was a play on words.  "Ming the Merciless" was a character from Flash Gordon serials in the 1930s and 1940s.   Menzies was "merciless" because he made damn sure that there were no possible challengers to him as the leader of the Liberal Party.  He moved them aside or upwards ASAP once they were in line to become more popular than him.  It is why the Liberal Party virtually collapsed after he retired as they had a succession of worthless leaders who couldn't control them or satisfy the electorate in it's demands for the recognition of change in it.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #55 - Jan 23rd, 2019 at 3:24pm
 
Bam wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 1:17pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 10:40am:
This is just embarrassing.  Roll Eyes

The denial of the Aboriginal Voice followed by this little tableau:

https://i.imgur.com/zsWN5VS.jpg
Toe-curlingly embarrassing.  Embarrassed

That picture shows just how fake this caretaker PM is.

"Duh ... I'm going to sit down next to some aborigines while holding a spear, yes, that will convince the voters I care about aborigines!"

You can see his marketing background quite clearly here. That could have been a marketing photo shoot for daggy dadwear.


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This thread is about Bull Shitten, Yes?
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Captain Nemo wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 10:40am:
This is just embarrassing.  Roll Eyes

The denial of the Aboriginal Voice followed by this little tableau:

https://i.imgur.com/zsWN5VS.jpg


Toe-curlingly embarrassing.  Embarrassed



They are aren't they.........thousands of years and this is how much they've advanced........sad Cry
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Reply #58 - Jan 23rd, 2019 at 5:23pm
 
Fuzzball wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 5:17pm:
This thread is about Bull Shitten, Yes?



what part of 'worst prime minister' do you struggle with?
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John Smith wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 5:23pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 5:17pm:
This thread is about Bull Shitten, Yes?



what part of 'worst prime minister' do you struggle with?


Your village is still looking for you Schith........
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Reply #60 - Jan 23rd, 2019 at 5:27pm
 
Fuzzball wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 5:26pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 5:23pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 5:17pm:
This thread is about Bull Shitten, Yes?



what part of 'worst prime minister' do you struggle with?


Your village is still looking for you Schith........


wow ... genius stuff. I bet you had to ask someone to come up with that too!
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Reply #61 - Jan 23rd, 2019 at 5:29pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 5:27pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 5:26pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 5:23pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 5:17pm:
This thread is about Bull Shitten, Yes?



what part of 'worst prime minister' do you struggle with?


Your village is still looking for you Schith........


wow ... genius stuff. I bet you had to ask someone to come up with that too!


Well the Village Idiot would think that......wouldn't you?
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Reply #62 - Jan 23rd, 2019 at 5:33pm
 
Fuzzball wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 5:29pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 5:27pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 5:26pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 5:23pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 5:17pm:
This thread is about Bull Shitten, Yes?



what part of 'worst prime minister' do you struggle with?


Your village is still looking for you Schith........


wow ... genius stuff. I bet you had to ask someone to come up with that too!


Well the Village Idiot would think that......wouldn't you?



the village idiot also doesn't know sarcasm when it's staring him in the face 

you qualify with flying colours
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Reply #64 - Jan 23rd, 2019 at 5:59pm
 
Fuzzball wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 5:19pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 10:40am:
This is just embarrassing.  Roll Eyes

The denial of the Aboriginal Voice followed by this little tableau:

https://i.imgur.com/zsWN5VS.jpg


Toe-curlingly embarrassing.  Embarrassed



They are aren't they.........thousands of years and this is how much they've advanced........sad Cry


That, my good man, is a very high tech stick you see there!  And highly original art!!  Clothing by Armanikoon ...... have some respeck, bro...
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The shittest PM ever, even worse than basher

Not a fair comparison, Abbott given 12 years and I am sure it could have been a close call.
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Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 13th, 2019 at 6:43pm:
Howard is one of the best PM's we've ever had and this article completely ignores the catastrophe that was the Rudd-Gillard-Rudd2.0 years. Best use for this article is toilet paper. Oh, and by the way, if when you talk about "basher" you're referring to Tony Abbott, you need to get your facts straight. If the accusing woman is to believed (and she still refuses to make her statement on a statutory declaration), then he punched a wall near her. That's a distinction you still seem unable to comprehend. A wall and a person are not the same thing. Surely even a person of diminished IQ would be able to understand that difference!


Howard was by far the least honest PM we ever had and the reason that we ended up with a decade of deficits following his incompetence.
We ended up with a decade of deficits because Rudd and Swan spent way more than they received in revenue.


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If the accusing woman is to believed (and she still refuses to make her statement on a statutory declaration), then he punched a wall near her.


Yes a thug and a bully but according to you that is OK.
So you agree he never assaulted the woman?


OH and yes grabbing a defenceless young girl pushing her against a wall and punching the wall next to her head is a cowardly assault.
Again, it's her word against his and she's offered no proof, nor has she signed a legally binding statutory declaration on her unproven claims.

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He is not the shittiest PM ever that one goes to Kevin 'Ming' Rudd

A man who promised so much and delivered not only little but set the Country on the 'pink batt' madness where it resulted in an industry of cowboys in which lives were lost

Kevin Rudd who was 'officer in charge of everything' resulting in chaotic Government when he didn't trust his fellow M.P.s to carry out their portfolios


Rudd was all about symbolism. What did the stolen generation apology do for indigenous people? Sweet bugger all, that's what! At least Abbott spent time in remote indigenous communities without media fanfare both before becoming PM and during his tenure. That's more than can be said of Rudd or Gillard.
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Dnarever wrote on Jan 13th, 2019 at 7:25pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 9:03pm:
The worst thing that the Howard government did was the un-affordable tax cuts.

This was the reason we came out of the GFC with deficits that have continued to today. Howard had locked in government spending at a higher level than Australia's long term government income expectation.

Howard gave away money in election bribes that was needed to pay the bills.

Had the tax cut money been spent on infrastructure government income would have been around 4% higher and there would have been no deficits coming out of the GFC. 


meant to modify to correct a rubbish auto-correction.


We came out of the GFC with huge debt and deficits because Rudd & Swan spent more than they had, wasted it on symbolism, pink batts that got tradies killed and on cheques to dead people and British backpackers that had long left the country. Just face it - the ONLY reason for the debt (that this government is near to finally paying off) is because of Labor incompetence. It really is THAT simple. No amount of spin will change that undeniable truth.
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Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 25th, 2019 at 8:23pm:
that this government is near to finally paying off



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Lets hope the cabinet/backbenchers curb the excesses of any "captain's calls" from any side.
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Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 25th, 2019 at 8:23pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 13th, 2019 at 7:25pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 9:03pm:
The worst thing that the Howard government did was the un-affordable tax cuts.

This was the reason we came out of the GFC with deficits that have continued to today. Howard had locked in government spending at a higher level than Australia's long term government income expectation.

Howard gave away money in election bribes that was needed to pay the bills.

Had the tax cut money been spent on infrastructure government income would have been around 4% higher and there would have been no deficits coming out of the GFC. 


meant to modify to correct a rubbish auto-correction.


We came out of the GFC with huge debt and deficits because Rudd & Swan spent more than they had, wasted it on symbolism, pink batts that got tradies killed and on cheques to dead people and British backpackers that had long left the country. Just face it - the ONLY reason for the debt (that this government is near to finally paying off) is because of Labor incompetence. It really is THAT simple. No amount of spin will change that undeniable truth.


Fukk me. What a seriously ignorant dickhead. How close is close. About $600 billion. Go away.

Idiot.

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John Smith wrote on Jan 25th, 2019 at 8:26pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 25th, 2019 at 8:23pm:
that this government is near to finally paying off



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Yeah.. yeah - they doubled the debt to pay off the current bill... the rest?  Oh, well... that was just ongoing spending needed... if you borrow $600Bn to pay off less then $300Bn - that's not real debt.. there's core and non-core debt, you know ... and when you've paid of the less than $300Bn debt ;left over from past governmentS - you're actually ahead...... you're no longer paying interest on that less than $300Bn .. so the budget is looking cosy.....

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Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 25th, 2019 at 8:23pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 13th, 2019 at 7:25pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 9:03pm:
The worst thing that the Howard government did was the un-affordable tax cuts.

This was the reason we came out of the GFC with deficits that have continued to today. Howard had locked in government spending at a higher level than Australia's long term government income expectation.

Howard gave away money in election bribes that was needed to pay the bills.

Had the tax cut money been spent on infrastructure government income would have been around 4% higher and there would have been no deficits coming out of the GFC. 


meant to modify to correct a rubbish auto-correction.


We came out of the GFC with huge debt and deficits because Rudd & Swan spent more than they had, wasted it on symbolism, pink batts that got tradies killed and on cheques to dead people and British backpackers that had long left the country. Just face it - the ONLY reason for the debt (that this government is near to finally paying off) is because of Labor incompetence. It really is THAT simple. No amount of spin will change that undeniable truth.


Fukk me. What a seriously ignorant dickhead. How close is close. About $600 billion. Go away.

Idiot.



Now there is no need to insult people who do not know there is a difference between debt and deficit.

I have more of an issue with the rest of the post also being wrong.

For a start Pink batts only kill people a long time after working with them, the culprit in this was aluminium bats which had been causing fires for over a decade. The increased rate through demand exposed the existing problem.

On government spending the then government made many tough decisions and continually limited spending, the problem was that the Howard tax cuts and locked in ling term spending was and is dependant on a hot running economy. If the Australian economy was not running around 5% higher than its long term average there was never going to be enough government income to pay expenses.

People assumed that following the GFC we would return to boom conditions this didn't eventuate, our economy had been geared by Howard / Costello to require boom time income to break square. 

Unlike the Liberals Swan was cutting expenditure (except for stimulus spending) from the beginning.

This contrasts strongly with the following Liberal government who were reckless spenders from day one. They did in fact double the debt in under half the time.
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