Bobby wrote:Reply #50 - Yesterday at 6:48pm
Quote:You could read the Bible that way but the author
of the linked website is a theologian so not everyone reads it your way.
As a Theologian they are definitely more qualified than me -
what about you?
I have no idea what your theologians' motives are Bobby. I can guess that he is another part of the anti-Christ brigade.
I do know that Christians read and understand the following to mean exactly what it says e.g.:.
Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
means that Christ came to fulfill the law (fulfill means to bring to a successful conclusion)
Luke 16:16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached , and every man presseth into it.
means that the law had a definite time frame to it(it was until John)
John 17:1 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:
Christ praying to God acknowledging that his time on earth was finished
John 17:4 I have glorified thee on the earth:
I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.Christ has finished his work ( His work was fulfilling the law He now is finished)
Mathew 26:39 And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying,
O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.
Mark 14:36 And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee;
take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.Luke 22:42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing,
remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.Christ was very frightened of what was going to happen to him, He would have got out of it if God so wished, however Gods' will be done
John 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said,
It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
The very last words Christ spoke here on earth were it is finished (He had came to fulfill the law, He successfully concluded the law, it was finished)
So we have Christ came to fulfill the law, the law had a definite time frame on it, He told God that he had completed the task, He was frightened of the pain and torture he was about endure, He was crucified the last words he spoke were to declare that he had finished the law.
Jump forward to the A.D. era we have
Romans 10:4 For
Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
Hebrews 9:12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
Romans 3:20 Therefore
by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Rom 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a
man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a
man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
Galatians 3:11 But that
no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
Again all saying that the law was redundant, it was now the era of justification by faith.
Bobby wrote Reply #51 - Yesterday at 6:50pm
Quote:It doesn't seem to make much sense does it?
What was the point of Jesus turning up if nothing changed as a result?
It all makes sense to Christians Bobby, they just read it as it says.