issuevoter wrote on Jan 8
th, 2019 at 6:42am:
Amadd wrote on Jan 7
th, 2019 at 10:07pm:
issuevoter wrote on Jan 6
th, 2019 at 11:33am:
Amadd wrote on Jan 6
th, 2019 at 8:24am:
issuevoter wrote on Jan 5
th, 2019 at 10:23pm:
Amadd wrote on Jan 5
th, 2019 at 9:51pm:
issuevoter wrote on Jan 5
th, 2019 at 6:34am:
Amadd wrote on Jan 4
th, 2019 at 10:23pm:
Quote:"Nirvana is controlled by capitalism." I have studied these matters extensively, and never came across that claim.
Then it seems that you are thinking in
a different context, because money can't buy nirvana. It couldn't even buy Kurt Cobain.
Here is what you said:
"It's not religion, it's not philosophy, it's not spiritual, ..it's controlled by capitalism to not allow us there."
What "context" are you putting capitalism and nirvana in?
Quite simply that in a capitalist world, contentment is not very high on the agenda. In fact, contentment is pretty bloody low on the agenda. Capitalism needs drive, greed, ego, never settling, always chasing the Jones', etc. Contentment is the natural enemy of capitalism.
You might say that contentment is not nirvana, however, I would consider nirvana to be an extreme level of contentment.
I would think most people would call the above, "convoluted opinion." I thought you were going to come up with some recognisable way that Capitalism controls Nirvana. What you seem to mean is that Capitalism is a distraction. But that's not control.
I don't believe Capitalism, as such, has ever had any relation to Nirvana.
Personally, I'm struggling to understand how you cannot see the
juxtaposition between contentment and capitalism and the manifest control that capitalism has over
our right to nirvana.
I may be wrong, but it looks like you made a claim about Capitalism that was emotional and not thought through logically, and are now looking for ways make the claim appear reasonable. This
juxtaposition and our
right to Nirvana are not in your original claim. How does capitalism control Nirvana? Surely, you have a straight answer?
I don't care much for trying to interpret other people's vagueness. I should add that human contentment of lack thereof, was with us a long time before Capitalism was developed.
Then how 'bout you just don't bother trying to interpret mate.
You obviously ain't up to the challenge. And so in your selfless pursuit of enlightenment you choose to belittle a person with a reasonable question.
Oh well, if you feel belittled by that, then I can only suggest a couple of panadol washed down with a cup of cement.
Q: How does capitalism control nirvana?
A: By putting people under unnatural pressure to make money, keep up with the Joneses, conform to politically correct rot, chase a certain body image, labeling fast food as healthy, not allowing the time for relaxing or meditative pursuits, trapping people into lifelong debt for not only themselves, but their children also, etc etc..
Time constraints make it difficult to go through a point by point synopsis, let alone a point by point discussion, but I'll try to outline a few calming pursuits that I think fall victim to capitalism.
Religion (there still seems to be time for Islam), painting, pottery, sculpture, fishing, picnics, meditation, yoga, camping, music, etc.
These things are all still available, but let's face it, you need to be doing something that can turn a buck.
Gas bill, water bill, electric bill, council rates, car insurance, house insurance, life insurance, wage protection insurance, school fees, grocery, home phone, mobile phone, internet, car registration, medical costs, house maintenance, car maintenance, car loan repayments, post 20 month interest free household item payments, Umm...Are there any more? OMG, my head is spinning.
Oh, how about mortgage repayments? The bastards have trapped so many people into
these massive loans and now their house value is worth less than the initial loan, not even taking into account purchasing fees. They'll never pay it, but maybe, just maybe, their children might.
Our national debt rating actually concerns
us and our projected earning capacity.
Add to that stagnant wage growth, and in so many industries a severe drop in real wages because of under the table deals to shaft the worker's conditions, this has become a treadmill that many will never escape.
We need to satisfy the man, we need to satisfy the shareholders and our debt rating. No time for pursuits of contentment, we need to work harder and longer for less.
Capitalism doesn't allow for pursuits of nirvana IMO.
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