Setanta wrote on Jan 11^th, 2019 at 8:47pm:


You have no problem with terrorists stabbing people, shooting people, and setting off bombs, as long as they don't kill anyone - is that what you're telling us Set?

I'm curious.

You don't want to do that Gregg? You were formulating a response for almost 20 minutes then you abandoned it, why?

I'm curious.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2019 at 9:15pm:


Why would someone deflect from terrorists that are mass murderers?

Does anyone else find it not only strange but absolutely reprehensible?

Any time frame on that NI quote you so liked yet?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2019 at 9:23pm:


Who says all terrorists try to kill, do you have a link or a Europol report to back that assertion up? We could discuss that if you post the NI quote you have been posting recently?

I believe terrorism is about causing fear for political aims, not death. Although death is the ultimate way to cause fear and we know who does that in spades as the Europol report shows..

Greg, as your own stats prove, not all terrorists are the same, and Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.

cods wrote on Jan 11^th, 2019 at 9:53pm:


Not all terrorists are Muslim, I can agree with Gregg on that. Not all Muslims are terrorists, I'd also agree. Gregg's stats show that unequivocally. The problem is he chooses to downplay Islamic terrorism using these stats, to diminish their severity when they are the most severe. Not all terrorism is equal which is why I ask him repeatedly to post the NI quote he has used repeatedly recently. He chooses not to repost it for a reason.

It's nice to know - as those of us who have studied terrorism know - that the aim is not always to kill, but to instill a 'halo effect' by causing mayhem and perhaps death... and thus influence political decisions and compel governments to NOT act against the terrorists through a campaign of fear and (dare one say it)... terror.

HOWEVER.......... when it is clear that the intent of a specified group is to cause death AND terror (as a corollary and not as the main purpose)... and that the ultimate aim of the group espousing such a belief is the total extermination of all that the group views as its 'enemies'..... the results are going to be much more disastrous to the 'host country' (and any others as defined by the belief system carrying out the terrorism) than any homegrown 'terrorism' seeking self-determination.

When the aim is to KILL the infidel and/or to enslave that 'infidel' utterly.... that is by far a more dangerous belief system than any homegrown demand for self-autonomy.

As a side note - perhaps you could consider this:-

Every time 'we' of the West send aid and assistance to radical Muslim areas... notably the Middle East.. they see this as, not only a sign of weakness... but also of the kind of bowing down and offering that they demand from any subservient and subordinate group (Infidel/Kaffer).

They imagine, in the fevered halls of their minds... that when 'we' hold out the hand of peace and comfort and assistance to assist THEM to rise above a level of filth and depravity and human degradation unknown in the West for generations... that we are weak and subservient to their 'greater and more moral' belief system.

Stop The Aid Programs.. And Send The Bombers!  Lock Them In - Drop Arms And Ammunition - Let Them Sort Themselves Out Over Their Own Dead Bodies!

Lock The Gates!