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Reply #165 - Jan 11th, 2019 at 1:14pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 12:53pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Attacking the source rather than the substance of what she writes, Soren?  Poor, poor, you.  You really are being rather foolish.  Show us what she has written is wrong. 


That did actually make me laugh, and from Brian of all people.  Amazingly self-unaware chutzpah!  The first thing luvvie cretins do is attack the source, and you Brian are a main offender.

Clowns like you only accept a self censored approved set of sources and if anything falls out of that, you don't address the substance, you and others of your ilk will instead post a meme of a laughing donkey or something.

It's amazing the hypocrisies you idiots indulge in.  It's nearly as funny as laughing at a source, then later in another debate using it as an authoritative reference, which I have seen happen here.

You clowns genuinely make me shake my head.   Grin Grin Grin

Though I do look forward to luvvies following Brian's exhortation to debate the substance and not the source, but I know that will never happen, after all, it requires more thought than just posting a meme as a rebuttal. Cool
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Re: Muslim cleric: ‘Merry Christmas’ worse than murder
Reply #166 - Jan 11th, 2019 at 1:15pm
 
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Yet the whole trouble comes from a man trying to look at these stories from the outside, as if they were scientific objects. He has only to look at them from the inside, and ask himself how he would begin a story. A story may start with anything and go anywhere. It may start with a bird without the bird being a totem; it may start with the sun without being a solar myth. It is said there are only ten plots in the world; and there will certainly be common and recurrent elements. Set ten thousand children talking at once, and telling tarradiddles about what they did in the wood, and it will not be hard to find parallels suggesting sun-worship or animal worship. Some of the stories may be pretty and some silly and some perhaps dirty; but they can only be judged as stories. In the modern dialect, they can only be judged aesthetically. It is strange that aesthetics, or mere feeling, which is now allowed to usurp where it has no rights at all, to wreck reason with pragmatism and morals with anarchy, is apparently not allowed to give a purely aesthetic judgement on what is obviously a purely aesthetic question. We may be fanciful about everything except fairy-tales.


Something for Moses to read no doubt   Smiley

I think the problem is not with the man who looks at those stories from scientific point of view.  Because, to study a religion or fancy tales, there are many aspects of it, that can be done.  For example, sun worship, at what particular time of the year, and why, do they have any bearings with equinox?  If so, then that means that particular culture have a system of recording, written language.  And so, more areas of study opens up.   I think if anything, its the man that looks at those stories from his own religious point of view that would make him more 'blind" and not able to begin a story at all. 

Interesting author.  Thank you.  Its interesting to see the mind work of an artist 100 years ago.   Smiley
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Re: Muslim cleric: ‘Merry Christmas’ worse than murder
Reply #167 - Jan 11th, 2019 at 2:01pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 9:23am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 3:35pm:
Gnads wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 1:02pm:
3 more “moderate” Mohammedan imports running around their Islamic enclave with illegal guns - standard

No wonder 76% of Aussies agree with Senator Fraser Anning.


Agree what with Fraser Anning?  Anning was elected by 19 votes.  I cannot imagine more than that number agreeing with him, Gnads.    Roll Eyes


Gnads: what's the answer?

If it's not SSM, what is it that 76% of Aussies agree with him on?


 
It wasn't about SSM.

It's about migrant crime. Sudanese & Muslims specifically.
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Re: Muslim cleric: ‘Merry Christmas’ worse than murder
Reply #168 - Jan 11th, 2019 at 2:03pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 2:01pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 9:23am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 3:35pm:
Gnads wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 1:02pm:
3 more “moderate” Mohammedan imports running around their Islamic enclave with illegal guns - standard

No wonder 76% of Aussies agree with Senator Fraser Anning.


Agree what with Fraser Anning?  Anning was elected by 19 votes.  I cannot imagine more than that number agreeing with him, Gnads.    Roll Eyes


Gnads: what's the answer?

If it's not SSM, what is it that 76% of Aussies agree with him on?


 
It wasn't about SSM.

It's about migrant crime. Sudanese & Muslims specifically.


Okay.

Was it a survey?

Do you have a link?
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Re: Muslim cleric: ‘Merry Christmas’ worse than murder
Reply #169 - Jan 11th, 2019 at 2:04pm
 
Secret Wars wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 1:14pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 12:53pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Attacking the source rather than the substance of what she writes, Soren?  Poor, poor, you.  You really are being rather foolish.  Show us what she has written is wrong. 


That did actually make me laugh, and from Brian of all people.  Amazingly self-unaware chutzpah!  The first thing luvvie cretins do is attack the source, and you Brian are a main offender.

Clowns like you only accept a self censored approved set of sources and if anything falls out of that, you don't address the substance, you and others of your ilk will instead post a meme of a laughing donkey or something.

It's amazing the hypocrisies you idiots indulge in.  It's nearly as funny as laughing at a source, then later in another debate using it as an authoritative reference, which I have seen happen here.

You clowns genuinely make me shake my head.   Grin Grin Grin

Though I do look forward to luvvies following Brian's exhortation to debate the substance and not the source, but I know that will never happen, after all, it requires more thought than just posting a meme as a rebuttal. Cool


Grin  Smiley
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Re: Muslim cleric: ‘Merry Christmas’ worse than murder
Reply #170 - Jan 11th, 2019 at 2:06pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 2:03pm:
Gnads wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 2:01pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 9:23am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 3:35pm:
Gnads wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 1:02pm:
3 more “moderate” Mohammedan imports running around their Islamic enclave with illegal guns - standard

No wonder 76% of Aussies agree with Senator Fraser Anning.


Agree what with Fraser Anning?  Anning was elected by 19 votes.  I cannot imagine more than that number agreeing with him, Gnads.    Roll Eyes


Gnads: what's the answer?

If it's not SSM, what is it that 76% of Aussies agree with him on?


 
It wasn't about SSM.

It's about migrant crime. Sudanese & Muslims specifically.


Okay.

Was it a survey?

Do you have a link?


He's been interviewed all over the TV news media

find your own link.

If you were going to find some meme to put shyte on him or anyone else for that matter

you'd have it in an instant.
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Re: Muslim cleric: ‘Merry Christmas’ worse than murder
Reply #171 - Jan 11th, 2019 at 2:07pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 2:06pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 2:03pm:
Gnads wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 2:01pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 9:23am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 3:35pm:
Gnads wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 1:02pm:
3 more “moderate” Mohammedan imports running around their Islamic enclave with illegal guns - standard

No wonder 76% of Aussies agree with Senator Fraser Anning.


Agree what with Fraser Anning?  Anning was elected by 19 votes.  I cannot imagine more than that number agreeing with him, Gnads.    Roll Eyes


Gnads: what's the answer?

If it's not SSM, what is it that 76% of Aussies agree with him on?


 
It wasn't about SSM.

It's about migrant crime. Sudanese & Muslims specifically.


Okay.

Was it a survey?

Do you have a link?


He's been interviewed all over the TV news media

find your own link.

If you were going to find some meme to put shyte on him or anyone else for that matter

you'd have it in an instant.


All you had to do was say you lied.

We could have saved all this time.

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Reply #172 - Jan 11th, 2019 at 2:10pm
 
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Reply #173 - Jan 11th, 2019 at 3:33pm
 
tickleandrose wrote: Reply #162 - Today at 12:23pm

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As I mentioned before Moses... you cannot go into the bible and find the reality.  You have to look at history from a secular point of view.   The truth is that, in ancient times, when, there are agriculture societies, the spring equinox was widely celebrated as a festival even before Christianity.  Yes, the Jewish passover happens to fall on that day, and yes the bible states Jesus resurrected around the time of Jewish Passover, but this does not take away the fact that those holidays had already been widely celebrated anyway, and often have pagan roots. 

And because back then, Christianity forbids pagans, and therefore, naturally, people had to change the name of the holidays to Easter.   Clearly, a way to control a population. 

Even now, the things that people do on Easter, are not necessary all Christian.  For example, the egg, the bunny, and even the hot cross bun.


You haven't given any correlation between a spring equinox and the Passover.

The festival of the Passover, is an annual weeklong festival commemorating the emancipation of Jewish peoples from slavery (in ancient Egypt). It is called Passover because the plague in Egypt that killed all firstborns passed over the Israelites’ homes, sparing the lives of their children.


Your whole argument is that they coincide in dates so therefore the Passover has its' roots in the spring equinox festival.

If what you say is true you must be able to tell us how and why they changed the nature of the festival.

if they wanted to thank God for the various seasons they could have quiet easily done so, after they believe that God is the creator therefore God is the reason we have seasonal differences.

For your argument to be true you have to tell us why they changed if they originally were celebrating the spring equinox.

Coinciding dates just don't cut it, as there would have been absolutely nothing wrong with giving thanks to God for the spring.
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Reply #174 - Jan 11th, 2019 at 4:21pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 2:10pm:


Gnads?

I Googled.  Found nothing.

Can you please provide a link that shows us exactly what 76% of Australians agree with him on?

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Reply #175 - Jan 11th, 2019 at 4:59pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 4:21pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 2:10pm:


Gnads?

I Googled.  Found nothing.

Can you please provide a link that shows us exactly what 76% of Australians agree with him on?


Its actually 84%. Only 16% diasgree or don't  know.

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Reply #176 - Jan 11th, 2019 at 5:09pm
 
Hang ten dissident Muslim clerics a week until the rest get the message and bow down to Christmas... talking to a lady today and she said she spent many early years in Arabia, due to her husband's job, and she had to toe their line every way every day.

Same rules apply here.. love it or get back to Sandland..... take your chances there in the 54 deg heat and freezing nights ....
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Re: Muslim cleric: ‘Merry Christmas’ worse than murder
Reply #177 - Jan 11th, 2019 at 5:10pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 4:59pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 4:21pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 2:10pm:


Gnads?

I Googled.  Found nothing.

Can you please provide a link that shows us exactly what 76% of Australians agree with him on?


Its actually 84%. Only 16% diasgree or don't  know.



The Silenced Majority?
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Re: Muslim cleric: ‘Merry Christmas’ worse than murder
Reply #178 - Jan 11th, 2019 at 5:26pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 2:01pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 9:23am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 3:35pm:
Gnads wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 1:02pm:
3 more “moderate” Mohammedan imports running around their Islamic enclave with illegal guns - standard

No wonder 76% of Aussies agree with Senator Fraser Anning.


Agree what with Fraser Anning?  Anning was elected by 19 votes.  I cannot imagine more than that number agreeing with him, Gnads.    Roll Eyes


Gnads: what's the answer?

If it's not SSM, what is it that 76% of Aussies agree with him on?


 
It wasn't about SSM.

It's about migrant crime. Sudanese & Muslims specifically.


And what survey was this, Gnads?  Mmmm?    Roll Eyes
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Re: Muslim cleric: ‘Merry Christmas’ worse than murder
Reply #179 - Jan 11th, 2019 at 5:29pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 4:59pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 4:21pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 2:10pm:


Gnads?

I Googled.  Found nothing.

Can you please provide a link that shows us exactly what 76% of Australians agree with him on?


Its actually 84%. Only 16% diasgree or don't  know.



Really?  I can't find any reference to 84% either, Soren.   Roll Eyes
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