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Re: Climate Change - Time is running out says CSIRO
Reply #60 - Dec 22nd, 2018 at 7:41pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 6:31pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 6:21pm:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 5:04pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 4:45pm:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 4:32pm:
97% of the climate scientists, NASA, WIKI the CSIRO and the BOM.




What ARE these experts saying? I dare you to tell us what you understand of them.



Climate change is upon us, we can choose to ignore the statistics or the opinions of 97% of the climate scientists and the rest. I see it in my own part of the world over the last half a century.

We are the first generation to realize climate change and the last generation that can do anything about it.

I for one would not be prepared to gamble when the stakes are so high.

You do realise that you are not saying anything other emoting.


Climate change - what causes it? Not human CO2 - it is so insignificant among all the factors of the climate - only dimply understood in its totality - as to be laughably insignificant.

What can we do to influence the climate if we are not changing it? Nothing but adaptation.


You happy to put your great grandchildren's names on the list of those to not survive if you are wrong ?

You are emoting. You understand nothing.  It's  way over your head so emotional correctness is all you have.

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Re: Climate Change - Time is running out says CSIRO
Reply #61 - Dec 22nd, 2018 at 7:53pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 7:41pm:
Dnarever wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 6:31pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 6:21pm:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 5:04pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 4:45pm:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 4:32pm:
97% of the climate scientists, NASA, WIKI the CSIRO and the BOM.




What ARE these experts saying? I dare you to tell us what you understand of them.



Climate change is upon us, we can choose to ignore the statistics or the opinions of 97% of the climate scientists and the rest. I see it in my own part of the world over the last half a century.

We are the first generation to realize climate change and the last generation that can do anything about it.

I for one would not be prepared to gamble when the stakes are so high.

You do realise that you are not saying anything other emoting.


Climate change - what causes it? Not human CO2 - it is so insignificant among all the factors of the climate - only dimply understood in its totality - as to be laughably insignificant.

What can we do to influence the climate if we are not changing it? Nothing but adaptation.


You happy to put your great grandchildren's names on the list of those to not survive if you are wrong ?

You are emoting. You understand nothing.  It's  way over your head so emotional correctness is all you have.



The absolute reality is that if you are wrong and all the science is correct and we do nothing because so many people are convinced that it is untrue then a lot of people are going to die.

Call it emotive if you like but the problem is that it is the truth.

I have done some work with people who do science with the CSIRO, I don't think you have any idea how smart those guys are.
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Re: Climate Change - Time is running out says CSIRO
Reply #62 - Dec 22nd, 2018 at 8:00pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 6:39pm:
Dnarever wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 6:31pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 6:21pm:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 5:04pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 4:45pm:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 4:32pm:
97% of the climate scientists, NASA, WIKI the CSIRO and the BOM.




What ARE these experts saying? I dare you to tell us what you understand of them.



Climate change is upon us, we can choose to ignore the statistics or the opinions of 97% of the climate scientists and the rest. I see it in my own part of the world over the last half a century.

We are the first generation to realize climate change and the last generation that can do anything about it.

I for one would not be prepared to gamble when the stakes are so high.

You do realise that you are not saying anything other emoting.


Climate change - what causes it? Not human CO2 - it is so insignificant among all the factors of the climate - only dimply understood in its totality - as to be laughably insignificant.

What can we do to influence the climate if we are not changing it? Nothing but adaptation.


You happy to put your great grandchildren's names on the list of those to not survive if you are wrong ?

That might be a little to confronting Duck, can you tone it down a bit..


It is a little confronting because that is the reality.

If climate change is real and we do nothing the result will be that many millions of people will die. I have little issue with connecting the people who help to cause this to be impacted in the outcome.

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Reply #63 - Dec 22nd, 2018 at 8:07pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 7:53pm:
The absolute reality is that if you are wrong and all the science is correct and we do nothing because so many people are convinced that it is untrue then a lot of people are going to die.



oh IFS? A lot of people are going to die anyway. That's what happens at the end of life.

Then you have the Eugenicists who insist that there are too many people. They want them to die.

Depriving people of affordable electricity is one way. They can continue to cook on dung stoves. That will serve them right. /sarc.

They can deny affordable electricity in colder countries; cold kills more than heat.

I see that Germany, the Green country, has increasing CO2 emissions despite the Energiewende program.

I guess they won't be meeting their Paris Commitment. In fact the EU as a whole is in the same boat as Australia.
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Re: Climate Change - Time is running out says CSIRO
Reply #64 - Dec 22nd, 2018 at 8:26pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 7:53pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 7:41pm:
Dnarever wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 6:31pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 6:21pm:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 5:04pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 4:45pm:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 4:32pm:
97% of the climate scientists, NASA, WIKI the CSIRO and the BOM.




What ARE these experts saying? I dare you to tell us what you understand of them.



Climate change is upon us, we can choose to ignore the statistics or the opinions of 97% of the climate scientists and the rest. I see it in my own part of the world over the last half a century.

We are the first generation to realize climate change and the last generation that can do anything about it.

I for one would not be prepared to gamble when the stakes are so high.

You do realise that you are not saying anything other emoting.


Climate change - what causes it? Not human CO2 - it is so insignificant among all the factors of the climate - only dimply understood in its totality - as to be laughably insignificant.

What can we do to influence the climate if we are not changing it? Nothing but adaptation.


You happy to put your great grandchildren's names on the list of those to not survive if you are wrong ?

You are emoting. You understand nothing.  It's  way over your head so emotional correctness is all you have.



The absolute reality is that if you are wrong and all the science is correct and we do nothing because so many people are convinced that it is untrue then a lot of people are going to die.

Call it emotive if you like but the problem is that it is the truth.

I have done some work with people who do science with the CSIRO, I don't think you have any idea how smart those guys are.

What kind of work did you do with them?
Office cleaning? Deliveries? Scientific analysis? What?

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Reply #65 - Dec 22nd, 2018 at 10:40pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 8:26pm:
Dnarever wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 7:53pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 7:41pm:
Dnarever wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 6:31pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 6:21pm:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 5:04pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 4:45pm:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 4:32pm:
97% of the climate scientists, NASA, WIKI the CSIRO and the BOM.




What ARE these experts saying? I dare you to tell us what you understand of them.



Climate change is upon us, we can choose to ignore the statistics or the opinions of 97% of the climate scientists and the rest. I see it in my own part of the world over the last half a century.

We are the first generation to realize climate change and the last generation that can do anything about it.

I for one would not be prepared to gamble when the stakes are so high.

You do realise that you are not saying anything other emoting.


Climate change - what causes it? Not human CO2 - it is so insignificant among all the factors of the climate - only dimply understood in its totality - as to be laughably insignificant.

What can we do to influence the climate if we are not changing it? Nothing but adaptation.


You happy to put your great grandchildren's names on the list of those to not survive if you are wrong ?

You are emoting. You understand nothing.  It's  way over your head so emotional correctness is all you have.



The absolute reality is that if you are wrong and all the science is correct and we do nothing because so many people are convinced that it is untrue then a lot of people are going to die.

Call it emotive if you like but the problem is that it is the truth.

I have done some work with people who do science with the CSIRO, I don't think you have any idea how smart those guys are.


What kind of work did you do with them?
Office cleaning? Deliveries? Scientific analysis? What?



Technical support & IT. I never said that I am that smart But some of them sure are.

Also never said I worked at or for CSIRO - worked with some of the science people who did work for CSIRO.
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Reply #66 - Dec 22nd, 2018 at 10:43pm
 
lee wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 8:07pm:
Dnarever wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 7:53pm:
The absolute reality is that if you are wrong and all the science is correct and we do nothing because so many people are convinced that it is untrue then a lot of people are going to die.



oh IFS? A lot of people are going to die anyway. That's what happens at the end of life.

Then you have the Eugenicists who insist that there are too many people. They want them to die.

Depriving people of affordable electricity is one way. They can continue to cook on dung stoves. That will serve them right. /sarc.

They can deny affordable electricity in colder countries; cold kills more than heat.

I see that Germany, the Green country, has increasing CO2 emissions despite the Energiewende program.

I guess they won't be meeting their Paris Commitment. In fact the EU as a whole is in the same boat as Australia.


Was plan "B" to post something that made sense or different garbage ?

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oh IFS? A lot of people are going to die anyway.


So potentially tens of millions extra dying because of the impact of AGW is no problem ? Really.
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Reply #67 - Dec 23rd, 2018 at 5:35am
 
Dnarever wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 8:00pm:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 6:39pm:
Dnarever wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 6:31pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 6:21pm:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 5:04pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 4:45pm:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 4:32pm:
97% of the climate scientists, NASA, WIKI the CSIRO and the BOM.




What ARE these experts saying? I dare you to tell us what you understand of them.



Climate change is upon us, we can choose to ignore the statistics or the opinions of 97% of the climate scientists and the rest. I see it in my own part of the world over the last half a century.

We are the first generation to realize climate change and the last generation that can do anything about it.

I for one would not be prepared to gamble when the stakes are so high.

You do realise that you are not saying anything other emoting.


Climate change - what causes it? Not human CO2 - it is so insignificant among all the factors of the climate - only dimply understood in its totality - as to be laughably insignificant.

What can we do to influence the climate if we are not changing it? Nothing but adaptation.


You happy to put your great grandchildren's names on the list of those to not survive if you are wrong ?

That might be a little to confronting Duck, can you tone it down a bit..


It is a little confronting because that is the reality.

If climate change is real and we do nothing the result will be that many millions of people will die. I have little issue with connecting the people who help to cause this to be impacted in the outcome.





so tomorrow the whole world stops using fossil fuel....

fixed done........

how long before it reverses GW?

IF ONE accepts doomsday is round the corner...

and the only way to stop it or at the least slow it down is to do what???.........

can we find a better way to use fossil fuel?....

or is that impossible or too late?

if we stop using fossil fuel of any kind... and it will affect the WHOLE WORLD....and not in a good way...

what will we do for countries that depend completely on oil.? 


what are Climatologists plan Bs.....??

you claim every thing we do or dont do is a gamble....

and you want us to gamble on the side of scientists..

I remember its scientists who created the most destructive bomb  ever made.....

they have also created WMD and now nuclear chemical and biological weapons that  countries use to threaten each other...  all death machines....death to humans and death to the planet..




it seems to me    guys like you dna  are saying its too little too late...anyway.... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

and no matter what Australia does it will never be enough..



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Reply #68 - Dec 23rd, 2018 at 10:06am
 
That's why the conservatives only have 4 months before they get booted out into the political history bin because you lot just don't care about what you do ! All you lot care about is ripping everyone off on their energy needs Sad
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Reply #69 - Dec 23rd, 2018 at 10:09am
 
It doesn't matter what we do at 1.24% it will hardly make any difference.

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Reply #70 - Dec 23rd, 2018 at 10:23am
 
Ajax wrote on Dec 23rd, 2018 at 10:09am:
It doesn't matter what we do at 1.24% it will hardly make any difference.

https://i.ibb.co/rk5sQfM/acfp.jpg


What about the sh.t that you export to everywhere else ? Would that make a difference ?
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Reply #71 - Dec 23rd, 2018 at 11:05am
 
Dnarever wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 10:43pm:
Was plan "B" to post something that made sense or different garbage ?



Poor Dna, I didn't think you were that thick.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 10:43pm:
So potentially tens of millions extra dying because of the impact of AGW is no problem ?


Oh. Potentially? can you show me a reference for that.

meanwhile -

"Over two-thirds of Indians still burn wood and dung-based fuel for cooking, leading to a million deaths a year from indoor pollution"

"The World Health Organization Household Air Pollution and Health report released in March this year states that over 50% of premature deaths among children under five are due to pneumonia caused by particulate matter (soot) inhaled from household air pollution. Over 3.8 million premature deaths annually from non-communicable diseases including stroke, ischemic heart disease, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease and lung cancer are attributed to exposure to household air pollution, adds the report."

https://indiaclimatedialogue.net/2014/07/17/millions-die-indians-still-cook-wood...

1 million deaths a year in India alone from dung and wood fires - (no modern stoves).
In 10 years India alone would wipe out your potential 10 million. And that's happening now not potentially.
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Reply #72 - Dec 23rd, 2018 at 11:07am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 23rd, 2018 at 10:23am:
What about the sh.t that you export to everywhere else ? Would that make a difference ?



The buyers should know all the claims on CO2 rise. They are masters of their own destiny, as we are of ours.
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Reply #73 - Dec 23rd, 2018 at 11:09am
 
Ajax wrote on Dec 23rd, 2018 at 10:09am:
It doesn't matter what we do at 1.24% it will hardly make any difference.

https://i.ibb.co/rk5sQfM/acfp.jpg


It is that sort of attitude that has got the planet into this mess in the first place
It's interesting to note that per capita we are one of the highest at 18.6
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Reply #74 - Dec 23rd, 2018 at 11:15am
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 23rd, 2018 at 11:09am:
It's interesting to note that per capita we are one of the highest at 18.6



Oh dear. barney must want us all to move to the manufacturing south eats corner of the continent so we won't have all those nasty transport emissions. Grin Grin Grin

Or of course he could actually debate about how we could overcome that. Large areas to transport goods, large areas to provide electricity, large areas to transport people.
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