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Climate Change - Time is running out says CSIRO
Dec 21st, 2018 at 10:54am
 
Just look at the experts from the right crawl out from under their rocks to tell us that the CSIRO is wrong. Of course the LNP knows better with their lumps of coal in one hand and their dicks in the other Cheesy LOL

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/australia-set-for-more-heatwaves-and-fires-as-climat...

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Australia set for more heatwaves and fires as climate change hits: report

The State of the Climate 2018 report painted a grim picture of Australia's future.

Australia's key climate agencies are forecasting a bleak outlook for Australia, with the country increasingly feeling the effects of the world's changing climate.

The State of the Climate 2018 report, prepared by the Bureau of Meteorology and the CSIRO, has warned of more heatwaves and extreme fire weather around Australia as global temperatures continue to rise.

Those rises are commonly attributed to an increase in emissions of the so-called greenhouse gases, such as carbon dioxide and methane, working alongside other variables like the El Nino or La Nina events.

Director of the Climate Science Centre at the CSIRO, Dr Helen Cleugh, said CO2 levels were unprecedented.


"CO2 in the atmosphere now is at levels that we haven't seen in at least 800,000 years and if we go back to other observations, the science says we probably haven't seen these levels of CO2 concentration for maybe two million years."

The weather bureau's manager of climate monitoring Dr Karl Braganza said the latest data revealed Australia's climate had warmed by more than one degree since 1910.


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Re: Climate Change - Time is running out says CSIRO
Reply #1 - Dec 21st, 2018 at 12:21pm
 
It was the Friday before Christmas, when the Coalition government traditionally releases all their bad news...

Australia to miss 2030 emissions targets by vast margin, Coalition's projections reveal
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Reply #2 - Dec 21st, 2018 at 2:14pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 21st, 2018 at 10:54am:
Just look at the experts from the right crawl out from under their rocks to tell us that the CSIRO is wrong. Of course the LNP knows better with their lumps of coal in one hand and their dicks in the other Cheesy LOL

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/australia-set-for-more-heatwaves-and-fires-as-climat...

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Australia set for more heatwaves and fires as climate change hits: report

The State of the Climate 2018 report painted a grim picture of Australia's future.

Australia's key climate agencies are forecasting a bleak outlook for Australia, with the country increasingly feeling the effects of the world's changing climate.

The State of the Climate 2018 report, prepared by the Bureau of Meteorology and the CSIRO, has warned of more heatwaves and extreme fire weather around Australia as global temperatures continue to rise.

Those rises are commonly attributed to an increase in emissions of the so-called greenhouse gases, such as carbon dioxide and methane, working alongside other variables like the El Nino or La Nina events.

Director of the Climate Science Centre at the CSIRO, Dr Helen Cleugh, said CO2 levels were unprecedented.


"CO2 in the atmosphere now is at levels that we haven't seen in at least 800,000 years and if we go back to other observations, the science says we probably haven't seen these levels of CO2 concentration for maybe two million years."

The weather bureau's manager of climate monitoring Dr Karl Braganza said the latest data revealed Australia's climate had warmed by more than one degree since 1910.




They've been saying that for the last 20 years.

How many times have we been beyond the point of no return.

Quick set up that carbon derivatives market that will financial enslave us and make the oligarchy even richer.

Then we will be saved.

Even though more and more CO2 will be released in to the atmosphere.

As long as we pay we are saved.

WTFU.
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1. There has never been a more serious assault on our standard of living than Anthropogenic Global Warming..Ajax
2. "One hour of freedom is worth more than 40 years of slavery &  prison" Regas Feraeos
 
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Reply #3 - Dec 21st, 2018 at 4:35pm
 
Gee whizz, Lee will have some work to do now, he now has to debunk the CSIRO, BOM, NASA, WIKI and 97% of the climate scientists.
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Reply #4 - Dec 21st, 2018 at 4:44pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Dec 21st, 2018 at 4:35pm:
Gee whizz, Lee will have some work to do now, he now has to debunk the CSIRO, BOM, NASA, WIKI and 97% of the climate scientists.


Lee's tactic is to cherry pick and divert the debate to one irrelevant issue....He will argue that 97% consensus of climate scientists is bunkum and that discredits all the science of global warming....Climate Change denial 101!!!

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Reply #5 - Dec 21st, 2018 at 4:46pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 21st, 2018 at 10:54am:
"CO2 in the atmosphere now is at levels that we haven't seen in at least 800,000 years and if we go back to other observations, the science says we probably haven't seen these levels of CO2 concentration for maybe two million years."



They have CO2 observations going back 2 million years? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

We have proxy data going back that far. They are not observations.
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Reply #6 - Dec 21st, 2018 at 4:57pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 21st, 2018 at 4:44pm:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 21st, 2018 at 4:35pm:
Gee whizz, Lee will have some work to do now, he now has to debunk the CSIRO, BOM, NASA, WIKI and 97% of the climate scientists.


Lee's tactic is to cherry pick and divert the debate to one irrelevant issue....He will argue that 97% consensus of climate scientists is bunkum and that discredits all the science of global warming....Climate Change denial 101!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

I know,, I would just like to know his motives.

I would also like to know if he has any viable alternatives to burning fossil fuels given that he has accepted the pollutants being spewed out will kill us, even if he doesn't acknowledge the global warming effect.
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Reply #7 - Dec 21st, 2018 at 5:21pm
 
Ajax wrote on Dec 21st, 2018 at 2:14pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 21st, 2018 at 10:54am:
Just look at the experts from the right crawl out from under their rocks to tell us that the CSIRO is wrong. Of course the LNP knows better with their lumps of coal in one hand and their dicks in the other Cheesy LOL

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/australia-set-for-more-heatwaves-and-fires-as-climat...

Quote:
Australia set for more heatwaves and fires as climate change hits: report

The State of the Climate 2018 report painted a grim picture of Australia's future.

Australia's key climate agencies are forecasting a bleak outlook for Australia, with the country increasingly feeling the effects of the world's changing climate.

The State of the Climate 2018 report, prepared by the Bureau of Meteorology and the CSIRO, has warned of more heatwaves and extreme fire weather around Australia as global temperatures continue to rise.

Those rises are commonly attributed to an increase in emissions of the so-called greenhouse gases, such as carbon dioxide and methane, working alongside other variables like the El Nino or La Nina events.

Director of the Climate Science Centre at the CSIRO, Dr Helen Cleugh, said CO2 levels were unprecedented.


"CO2 in the atmosphere now is at levels that we haven't seen in at least 800,000 years and if we go back to other observations, the science says we probably haven't seen these levels of CO2 concentration for maybe two million years."

The weather bureau's manager of climate monitoring Dr Karl Braganza said the latest data revealed Australia's climate had warmed by more than one degree since 1910.




They've been saying that for the last 20 years.

How many times have we been beyond the point of no return.

Quick set up that carbon derivatives market that will financial enslave us and make the oligarchy even richer.

Then we will be saved.

Even though more and more CO2 will be released in to the atmosphere.

As long as we pay we are saved.

WTFU.


as opposed to getting ripped off by the fossil fool oligarchy. Don't forget to spend up big at coles to get your shopper docker so you can get 4 cents off a liter. And do a try and avoid the weekly price gouging cycle Cheesy LOL
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In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.
 
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Reply #8 - Dec 21st, 2018 at 5:24pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Dec 21st, 2018 at 4:57pm:
I would also like to know if he has any viable alternatives to burning fossil fuels given that he has accepted the pollutants being spewed out will kill us, even if he doesn't acknowledge the global warming effect.



You have heard of nuclear.

I also have never said CO2 does not cause warming. What you have to do is sort out how much warming is caused by man and how much is natural. In a simple 3 part calculation eg A+B=C you need  2 of the knowns to calculate the third;)

BTW- Just where in Australia are people "choking to death". Your choice of words. But no supporting evidence. Wink
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Reply #9 - Dec 21st, 2018 at 5:27pm
 
lee wrote on Dec 21st, 2018 at 4:46pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 21st, 2018 at 10:54am:
"CO2 in the atmosphere now is at levels that we haven't seen in at least 800,000 years and if we go back to other observations, the science says we probably haven't seen these levels of CO2 concentration for maybe two million years."



They have CO2 observations going back 2 million years? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

We have proxy data going back that far. They are not observations.


The CO2 records are derived from untouched ice core samples. And that is not ice that you and your retarded LNP mates put into their veins Cheesy LOL
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Reply #10 - Dec 21st, 2018 at 5:28pm
 
lee wrote on Dec 21st, 2018 at 5:24pm:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 21st, 2018 at 4:57pm:
I would also like to know if he has any viable alternatives to burning fossil fuels given that he has accepted the pollutants being spewed out will kill us, even if he doesn't acknowledge the global warming effect.



You have heard of nuclear.

I also have never said CO2 does not cause warming. What you have to do is sort out how much warming is caused by man and how much is natural. In a simple 3 part calculation eg A+B=C you need at least 2 of the knowns to form the equation. Wink

BTW- Just where in Australia are people "choking to death". Your choice of words. But no supporting evidence. Wink


In traffic jams !
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Reply #11 - Dec 21st, 2018 at 5:33pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 21st, 2018 at 5:27pm:
The CO2 records are derived from untouched ice core samples.



Yes petal. And I have told you repeatedly and given the scientific references about the problems of CO2 in the firn, the errors that abound.

But you seem to have the attention span of a guppy.
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Reply #12 - Dec 21st, 2018 at 5:34pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 21st, 2018 at 5:28pm:
In traffic jams !



Scientifically proven or mere conjecture?
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Reply #13 - Dec 21st, 2018 at 6:25pm
 
lee wrote on Dec 21st, 2018 at 5:24pm:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 21st, 2018 at 4:57pm:
I would also like to know if he has any viable alternatives to burning fossil fuels given that he has accepted the pollutants being spewed out will kill us, even if he doesn't acknowledge the global warming effect.



You have heard of nuclear.

I also have never said CO2 does not cause warming. What you have to do is sort out how much warming is caused by man and how much is natural. In a simple 3 part calculation eg A+B=C you need  2 of the knowns to calculate the third;)

BTW- Just where in Australia are people "choking to death". Your choice of words. But no supporting evidence. Wink

Yes I have heard of nuclear and have been advocating nuclear since the 70's, some mutual ground here.

As far as global warming goes you had better go and do some research real damn quick.
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Reply #14 - Dec 21st, 2018 at 7:02pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Dec 21st, 2018 at 6:25pm:
As far as global warming goes you had better go and do some research real damn quick.


perhaps you can give me the scientific references you think I need.

You mean like -

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 21st, 2018 at 10:54am:
The weather bureau's manager of climate monitoring Dr Karl Braganza said the latest data revealed Australia's climate had warmed by more than one degree since 1910.


Now using liquid in glass thermometers the greatest accuracy you can get is +/- 0.5. Of course there are other errors - parallax being but one. So to put that quote in context what they could say is it has warmed 1.0 degree +/- 0.5. And then of course averaging only those temperatures for which you have readings; never mind the vast expanses of Australia where there are no readings. BTW - you can't average out your errors. So it may have warmed 0.5 degrees. Of course that is the mean temperature not the maximum and not the minimum.

Of course I don't live in a mean temperature environment. At my place at the moment it varies from a minimum of about 16 degrees to a maximum of about thirty degrees. So each day it varies by 14 degrees. And I should be worried about a putative 1.0 degree? laughable.
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