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Reply #45 - Dec 22nd, 2018 at 5:43pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 4:37pm:
Trump and Tiny Abort agrees with you. What does that say about yourself ?



Oh dear. Couldn't sustain the argument and changed the goal posts. Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #46 - Dec 22nd, 2018 at 5:47pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 5:04pm:
I see it in my own part of the world over the last half a century.



temperature has increased by how much in that 50 Years? reference?

Drought? Rain? Floods?

In which part of the world do you live?
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Reply #47 - Dec 22nd, 2018 at 5:51pm
 
why do these threads always end up in a slanging match.....always always..

none of you work for the CSIRO  or NASA or climatologist scientists...

so you really only believe the one side... the one  who agrees with you... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

makes sense to some.. Roll Eyes

as it is those who expect to be here in 2030   .... if this planet gets there...

its hard to tell with the doomsayers  panicking every school child into thinking the world will end... before then....

maybe lee and Co will get the last laugh.....

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Reply #48 - Dec 22nd, 2018 at 6:02pm
 
"Unadjusted temperatures published by the Weather Bureau in the mid 20th century indicate a warmer Australian climate before 1940 than calculated with RAW or ACORN adjustments and suggest warming from the 1800s to 2014 at approximately half the rate calculated by ACORN since 1910.


Pristine historic Weather Bureau temperatures from 226 weather stations before 1931 and from 44 stations between 1911 and 1940 can be compared against corresponding locations within Bureau of Meteorology RAW data and adjusted ACORN temperatures.


Among 226 locations listed by the CSIR, the mean temperature increased 0.5C from <1931 to 2000-2014, or 0.4586C to be precise."

http://www.waclimate.net/year-book-csir.html

With the attendant errors of +/-0.5C from liquid-in-glass thermometers.
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Re: Climate Change - Time is running out says CSIRO
Reply #49 - Dec 22nd, 2018 at 6:03pm
 
lee wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 5:47pm:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 5:04pm:
I see it in my own part of the world over the last half a century.



temperature has increased by how much in that 50 Years? reference?

Drought? Rain? Floods?

In which part of the world do you live?

I have lived in the southern half of SA, the winter cold fronts are rare now, many other changes. farming practices have also changed.
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Reply #50 - Dec 22nd, 2018 at 6:04pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 6:03pm:
I have lived in the southern half of SA, the winter cold fronts are rare now, many other changes. farming practices have also changed.



So no data then, merely anecdotal evidence. Wink
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Reply #51 - Dec 22nd, 2018 at 6:10pm
 
lee wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 6:04pm:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 6:03pm:
I have lived in the southern half of SA, the winter cold fronts are rare now, many other changes. farming practices have also changed.



So no data then, merely anecdotal evidence. Wink

No, no data, just my word and those that back me up, like 97% of climate scientists, NASA, the CSIRO, BOM and WIKI.
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Reply #52 - Dec 22nd, 2018 at 6:20pm
 
lee wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 6:04pm:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 6:03pm:
I have lived in the southern half of SA, the winter cold fronts are rare now, many other changes. farming practices have also changed.



So no data then, merely anecdotal evidence. Wink


Did you read the CSIRO report that this topic is based on, it has all the data that you won't believe anyway. ?
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Re: Climate Change - Time is running out says CSIRO
Reply #53 - Dec 22nd, 2018 at 6:21pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 5:04pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 4:45pm:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 4:32pm:
97% of the climate scientists, NASA, WIKI the CSIRO and the BOM.




What ARE these experts saying? I dare you to tell us what you understand of them.



Climate change is upon us, we can choose to ignore the statistics or the opinions of 97% of the climate scientists and the rest. I see it in my own part of the world over the last half a century.

We are the first generation to realize climate change and the last generation that can do anything about it.

I for one would not be prepared to gamble when the stakes are so high.

You do realise that you are not saying anything other emoting.


Climate change - what causes it? Not human CO2 - it is so insignificant among all the factors of the climate - only dimply understood in its totality - as to be laughably insignificant.

What can we do to influence the climate if we are not changing it? Nothing but adaptation.
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Reply #54 - Dec 22nd, 2018 at 6:30pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 6:21pm:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 5:04pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 4:45pm:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 4:32pm:
97% of the climate scientists, NASA, WIKI the CSIRO and the BOM.




What ARE these experts saying? I dare you to tell us what you understand of them.



Climate change is upon us, we can choose to ignore the statistics or the opinions of 97% of the climate scientists and the rest. I see it in my own part of the world over the last half a century.

We are the first generation to realize climate change and the last generation that can do anything about it.

I for one would not be prepared to gamble when the stakes are so high.

You do realise that you are not saying anything other emoting.


Climate change - what causes it? Not human CO2 - it is so insignificant among all the factors of the climate - only dimply understood in its totality - as to be laughably insignificant.

What can we do to influence the climate if we are not changing it? Nothing but adaptation.

5 billion cars on the road spewing out mega tons of carbon monoxide are not of a concern of yours!
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Reply #55 - Dec 22nd, 2018 at 6:31pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 6:21pm:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 5:04pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 4:45pm:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 4:32pm:
97% of the climate scientists, NASA, WIKI the CSIRO and the BOM.




What ARE these experts saying? I dare you to tell us what you understand of them.



Climate change is upon us, we can choose to ignore the statistics or the opinions of 97% of the climate scientists and the rest. I see it in my own part of the world over the last half a century.

We are the first generation to realize climate change and the last generation that can do anything about it.

I for one would not be prepared to gamble when the stakes are so high.

You do realise that you are not saying anything other emoting.


Climate change - what causes it? Not human CO2 - it is so insignificant among all the factors of the climate - only dimply understood in its totality - as to be laughably insignificant.

What can we do to influence the climate if we are not changing it? Nothing but adaptation.


You happy to put your great grandchildren's names on the list of those to not survive if you are wrong ?
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Reply #56 - Dec 22nd, 2018 at 6:39pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 6:31pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 6:21pm:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 5:04pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 4:45pm:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 4:32pm:
97% of the climate scientists, NASA, WIKI the CSIRO and the BOM.




What ARE these experts saying? I dare you to tell us what you understand of them.



Climate change is upon us, we can choose to ignore the statistics or the opinions of 97% of the climate scientists and the rest. I see it in my own part of the world over the last half a century.

We are the first generation to realize climate change and the last generation that can do anything about it.

I for one would not be prepared to gamble when the stakes are so high.

You do realise that you are not saying anything other emoting.


Climate change - what causes it? Not human CO2 - it is so insignificant among all the factors of the climate - only dimply understood in its totality - as to be laughably insignificant.

What can we do to influence the climate if we are not changing it? Nothing but adaptation.


You happy to put your great grandchildren's names on the list of those to not survive if you are wrong ?

That might be a little to confronting Duck, can you tone it down a bit..
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Reply #57 - Dec 22nd, 2018 at 6:52pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 6:20pm:
Did you read the CSIRO report that this topic is based on, it has all the data that you won't believe anyway. ?



Does it? So according to the CSIRO we have warmed 1C. According to the unadjusted data we have warmed 0.5C. And that data going all the way back has uncertainties of +/-0.5C as well.

So tell me exactly how much has Australia warmed?

Then of course there is this -

https://www.csiro.au/en/Research/OandA/Areas/Assessing-our-climate/State-of-the-...

page 22 of 24.

"Australia’s average annual temperature relative to the 1861–1900 period. "

But BOM insist that there is no reliable data before 1910. How bizarre is that?

Comparisons to an unreliable start point.

And then Simulations of past climate - surely they have data for that? Or perhaps not.

And then Simulations of past climate without human emissions. Which of course is one big WAG. (Wild Assed Guess)

Models. ALL. THE. WAY. DOWN.

And nowhere in the report do they actually define what temperature an "extreme
heat event" is. 36C? 38C? 40C?
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Reply #58 - Dec 22nd, 2018 at 7:10pm
 
lee wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 6:52pm:
Dnarever wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 6:20pm:
Did you read the CSIRO report that this topic is based on, it has all the data that you won't believe anyway. ?



Does it? So according to the CSIRO we have warmed 1C. According to the unadjusted data we have warmed 0.5C. And that data going all the way back has uncertainties of +/-0.5C as well.

So tell me exactly how much has Australia warmed?

Then of course there is this -

https://www.csiro.au/en/Research/OandA/Areas/Assessing-our-climate/State-of-the-...

page 22 of 24.

"Australia’s average annual temperature relative to the 1861–1900 period. "

But BOM insist that there is no reliable data before 1910. How bizarre is that?

Comparisons to an unreliable start point.

And then Simulations of past climate - surely they have data for that? Or perhaps not.

And then Simulations of past climate without human emissions. Which of course is one big WAG. (Wild Assed Guess)

Models. ALL. THE. WAY. DOWN.

And nowhere in the report do they actually define what temperature an "extreme
heat event" is. 36C? 38C? 40C?

You are really clasping at straws now Lee, sometimes  you just have to fold.
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Reply #59 - Dec 22nd, 2018 at 7:16pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 7:10pm:
You are really clasping at straws now Lee, sometimes  you just have to fold.



Now you are really showing you don't have a clue. Just a generic try at a put down. Your mother must be so disappointed in you.
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