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➜ ➜ Deal Paves Way For Mex-US Asylum Overhaul (Read 618 times)
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Re: ➜ ➜ Deal Paves Way For Mex-US Asylum Overhaul
Reply #15 - Dec 15th, 2018 at 6:48pm
 
Term Dog wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 6:43pm:
SadSadKangaroo wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 6:26pm:
Term Dog wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 6:23pm:
I tried to educate you, but you failed.


No, you tried to spin Trump out of having to be held to account for what he said he would do, in no uncertain terms, in absolute clarity, repeated time and time again, and you failed.

If what you say is true, then it proves Trump lied.

You really aren't that clever, are you? would you like some more rope?




And still not one fak is given by his supporters as long as he has control of the border....which he spectacularly demonstrated to the tens of thousands in the leftist funded caravan still waiting just south of the border.

Trump = win


They're waiting for a legal entry point to claim asylum like they always were...
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Re: ➜ ➜ Deal Paves Way For Mex-US Asylum Overhaul
Reply #16 - Dec 15th, 2018 at 7:11pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 6:48pm:
Term Dog wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 6:43pm:
SadSadKangaroo wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 6:26pm:
Term Dog wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 6:23pm:
I tried to educate you, but you failed.


No, you tried to spin Trump out of having to be held to account for what he said he would do, in no uncertain terms, in absolute clarity, repeated time and time again, and you failed.

If what you say is true, then it proves Trump lied.

You really aren't that clever, are you? would you like some more rope?




And still not one fak is given by his supporters as long as he has control of the border....which he spectacularly demonstrated to the tens of thousands in the leftist funded caravan still waiting just south of the border.

Trump = win


They're waiting for a legal entry point to claim asylum like they always were...



Cool story bro.
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Reply #17 - Dec 15th, 2018 at 8:31pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 6:18pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 6:07pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 5:59pm:
Term Dog wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 4:23pm:
Mexico has just paid for the wall so much so that a physical Wall is no longer really necessary, would still look nice though.

Trump is a genius, two for one deal.

Obunga couldn't get any of it right in 8 years.


Trump made it very clear, a real, physical, beautiful wall, paid for 100% by Mexico.

Mexico have made it clear they won't be paying so Trump and more importantly his supporters like yourself, the true suffers of Trump Derangment Syndrome, are trying to find way to claim Mexico are paying for it.

First of all it was by tariffs, but then someone pointed out to them that Americans are the ones who pay the tariffs.  If only someone could explain that to Trump in a way he'd understand but no, he still boasts about raising BILLIONS from tariffs on China...

Next they tried saying that the deal Trump made in USMCA means that because it's such a good deal compared to NAFTA (which is isn't), Mexico have in essense paid for the wall, which they haven't.

Now you're trying to say that a physical wall is no longer needed because you're claiming a diplomatic soltion has been reached?

If it's true that's great but this only validates the counter policy literally everyone else suggested to Trump instead of the Wall, and then there is the other point that Mexico still isn't paying for it and there is no wall.

NOW, Trump and his supporters are in even bigger trouble.  He needs to build the wall to pacify his supporters and not appear weak to them, BUT, he also need the Wall not built so he can use it at the next election because the economic projections from the Whitehouse themselves aren't good.

He needs an issue to take to the next election.

So now Trump has a tough decsion to make.  Does he risk losing the faith of his supporters now and give him self a powerful issues to campaign on for the next election, or does he fight and attempt to actually build the wall but then have to rely on his economic credentials that could go either way between now and the election campaign?

Knowing the kind of ego driven individual Trump is, I think it's a safe bet to assume that no wall will be built before the next election and he'll use it as the cornerstone of his campaign.

Expect more fake news about Mexican Immigrants, legal or otherwise, in the coming months leading up to the campaign.


Excuse me, where did Mr Trump ever say a physical wall?


Yeah you're right, by bad.  Just make sure you stop the video below before 0:49.




Well okay, so Mr Trump changed his mind, what's wrong with that? Things must have changed - maybe the illegals have stopped, have you thought of that? Or maybe Mr Trump wants to bring in more illegals - they make good cleaners at his country clubs, you know.

There could be a host of reasons, Mr Trump shouldn't have to explain them all. Those pesky reporters from the FAKE news just want dirt, you know that. Some silly sex scandal, some ridiculous Russian hoax, so unfair.

I mean, here we have a leader who tells the truth, who deals in facts, who just gets on with doing things.

And here's the FAKE news trying to get him to tell lies, make stuff up, and break every promise he's made, it's terrible.
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Reply #18 - Dec 15th, 2018 at 8:35pm
 
He might have got sidetracked creating record low unemployment for minorities, booming the economy and lowering taxes.
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Re: ➜ ➜ Deal Paves Way For Mex-US Asylum Overhaul
Reply #19 - Dec 15th, 2018 at 8:41pm
 
Term Dog wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 7:11pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 6:48pm:
Term Dog wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 6:43pm:
SadSadKangaroo wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 6:26pm:
Term Dog wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 6:23pm:
I tried to educate you, but you failed.


No, you tried to spin Trump out of having to be held to account for what he said he would do, in no uncertain terms, in absolute clarity, repeated time and time again, and you failed.

If what you say is true, then it proves Trump lied.

You really aren't that clever, are you? would you like some more rope?




And still not one fak is given by his supporters as long as he has control of the border....which he spectacularly demonstrated to the tens of thousands in the leftist funded caravan still waiting just south of the border.

Trump = win


They're waiting for a legal entry point to claim asylum like they always were...



Cool story bro.


Gotcha again I see.
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Re: ➜ ➜ Deal Paves Way For Mex-US Asylum Overhaul
Reply #20 - Dec 15th, 2018 at 9:02pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 8:41pm:
Term Dog wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 7:11pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 6:48pm:
Term Dog wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 6:43pm:
SadSadKangaroo wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 6:26pm:
Term Dog wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 6:23pm:
I tried to educate you, but you failed.


No, you tried to spin Trump out of having to be held to account for what he said he would do, in no uncertain terms, in absolute clarity, repeated time and time again, and you failed.

If what you say is true, then it proves Trump lied.

You really aren't that clever, are you? would you like some more rope?




And still not one fak is given by his supporters as long as he has control of the border....which he spectacularly demonstrated to the tens of thousands in the leftist funded caravan still waiting just south of the border.

Trump = win


They're waiting for a legal entry point to claim asylum like they always were...



Cool story bro.


Gotcha again I see.



Sure
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Re: ➜ ➜ Deal Paves Way For Mex-US Asylum Overhaul
Reply #21 - Dec 16th, 2018 at 3:10pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 6:48pm:
Term Dog wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 6:43pm:
SadSadKangaroo wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 6:26pm:
Term Dog wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 6:23pm:
I tried to educate you, but you failed.


No, you tried to spin Trump out of having to be held to account for what he said he would do, in no uncertain terms, in absolute clarity, repeated time and time again, and you failed.

If what you say is true, then it proves Trump lied.

You really aren't that clever, are you? would you like some more rope?




And still not one fak is given by his supporters as long as he has control of the border....which he spectacularly demonstrated to the tens of thousands in the leftist funded caravan still waiting just south of the border.

Trump = win


They're waiting for a legal entry point to claim asylum like they always were...


Except, something's very different now......

If they attempt to enter the USA Illegally to claim asylum, they will be rounded up & summarily arrested for illegal entry, regardless of their claim, then returned & released into Mexico, to Mexican authorities.

They won't be permitted into the USA to make a claim for asylum.......period.

Those days are over.....

They will have to make their claim for asylum in Mexico, & while the courts check out their individual claims, they will have to wait for a judgment on their individual claims.....not in the USA, but in Mexico.....regardless if it takes 4 to 6 months or more (what US Immigration anticipate the average wait will probably be) Wink


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MEXICO CITY — The Trump administration has won the support of Mexico’s incoming government for a plan to remake U.S. border policy by requiring asylum seekers to wait in Mexico while their claims move through U.S. courts, according to Mexican officials and senior members of President-elect Andrés Manuel López Obrador’s transition team.


President Trump briefly described the arrangement in a pair of tweets Saturday evening. “Migrants at the Southern Border will not be allowed into the United States until their claims are individually approved in court,” Trump wrote. “No ‘Releasing’ into the U.S....All will stay in Mexico.”............

The agreement would break with long-standing asylum rules and place a formidable barrier in the path of Central American migrants attempting to reach the United States and escape poverty and violence. By reaching the accord, the Trump administration has also overcome Mexico’s historic reticence to deepen cooperation with the United States on an issue widely seen here as America’s problem.

According to outlines of the plan, known as Remain in Mexico, asylum applicants at the border will have to stay in Mexico while their cases are processed, potentially ending the system, which Trump decries as “catch and release,” that has generally allowed those seeking refuge to wait on safer U.S. soil..........


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