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Finally a Grand Jury investigation into 9/11
Dec 14th, 2018 at 1:21am
 
For the first time a real investigation will begin - just 17 years later!

All the evidence of explosives and pyrotechnic devices used to bring down the 3 buildings will be assessed by a jury. Expect a cascade of more evidence as others feel safer to come forward.

Those directly involved and those involved in the cover up in the deaths of 3,000 will be pissing themselves. Remember to knowingly cover up a crime is to be considered complicit.





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YAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWN
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But her emails!

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..and those pesky MOON NAZIS
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Reply #4 - Dec 14th, 2018 at 8:21am
 
Richdude wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 1:21am:
For the first time a real investigation will begin - just 17 years later!

All the evidence of explosives and pyrotechnic devices used to bring down the 3 buildings will be assessed by a jury. Expect a cascade of more evidence as others feel safer to come forward.

Those directly involved and those involved in the cover up in the deaths of 3,000 will be pissing themselves. Remember to knowingly cover up a crime is to be considered complicit.


Why are you defending Al-Qaeda?

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Richdude wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 1:21am:
For the first time a real investigation will begin - just 17 years later!



Yeah, and who knew all it took was three white people to do it? Two of them off their medication and the other fresh from shopping at the Apple store.
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Reply #6 - Dec 14th, 2018 at 11:37am
 
Marla wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 4:22am:
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So the murder of 3,000 fellow countrymen is OK with you?

Of course you are a fascist/commo and the means justifies the ends. How do you know that you maybe next - is that OK to?


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Reply #7 - Dec 14th, 2018 at 11:38am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 8:21am:
Richdude wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 1:21am:
For the first time a real investigation will begin - just 17 years later!

All the evidence of explosives and pyrotechnic devices used to bring down the 3 buildings will be assessed by a jury. Expect a cascade of more evidence as others feel safer to come forward.

Those directly involved and those involved in the cover up in the deaths of 3,000 will be pissing themselves. Remember to knowingly cover up a crime is to be considered complicit.


Why are you defending Al-Qaeda?



Intellectual flea!
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Reply #8 - Dec 14th, 2018 at 11:48am
 
Richdude wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 11:37am:
So the murder of 3,000 fellow countrymen is OK with you?






But her emails!
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Reply #9 - Dec 14th, 2018 at 11:59am
 
Richdude wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 11:38am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 8:21am:
Richdude wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 1:21am:
For the first time a real investigation will begin - just 17 years later!

All the evidence of explosives and pyrotechnic devices used to bring down the 3 buildings will be assessed by a jury. Expect a cascade of more evidence as others feel safer to come forward.

Those directly involved and those involved in the cover up in the deaths of 3,000 will be pissing themselves. Remember to knowingly cover up a crime is to be considered complicit.


Why are you defending Al-Qaeda?



Intellectual flea!


Well, why?

You're saying that Al-Qaeda aren't responsible for the 9/11 attacks, aren't you?

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Reply #10 - Dec 14th, 2018 at 12:06pm
 
This case will cause fear among those who were responsible and those who were negligent, including Zelikow, the chairman of the 9/11 committee, and Sivaraj Shyam-Sunder, the NIST stooge responsible for the bogus WTC 7 report.

At the very least the investigation will reveal all the issues willfully neglected by the 9/11 committee and Sivaraj Shyam-Sunder.

The investigation will expose huge amounts of valuable evidence that has been hidden by administrations.

Obama promised to expose concealed evidence of the 9/11 incident but did not do so.

Donald Trump promised to expose the culprits behind 9/11 but did not do so.
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Justice has just ridden into town  Smiley
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President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 1:10pm:
Justice has just ridden into town  Smiley


Let us hope the justice system is more powerful than the forces that have willfully concealed the facts and evidence of the 9/11 incidents.
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Reply #13 - Dec 14th, 2018 at 3:34pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 12:06pm:
This case will cause fear among those who were responsible and those who were negligent, including Zelikow, the chairman of the 9/11 committee, and Sivaraj Shyam-Sunder, the NIST stooge responsible for the bogus WTC 7 report.

At the very least the investigation will reveal all the issues willfully neglected by the 9/11 committee and Sivaraj Shyam-Sunder.

The investigation will expose huge amounts of valuable evidence that has been hidden by administrations.

Obama promised to expose concealed evidence of the 9/11 incident but did not do so.

Donald Trump promised to expose the culprits behind 9/11 but did not do so.



The truth will never come out just as per Pearl Harbor 77 years ago.
FDR knew the attack was about to happen and did nothing.
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Richdude wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 11:37am:
Marla wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 4:22am:
YAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWN


So the murder of 3,000 fellow countrymen is OK with you?

Of course you are a fascist/commo and the means justifies the ends. How do you know that you maybe next - is that OK to?


The murder of 3,000 mostly Americans was okay with the Bush administration. You could tell when Mr Bush was giving the disingenuous gaze during his notification about the attack.

Had the United States government wanted to stop this attack from happening, they would have prevented it with ease. The fact that they have had so many years to prevent a terrorist attack like the September 11 attacks, given that evidence after evidence has come forward that they counter terrorism people knew about the attack, just proves that the United States government was complicit in the attacks.
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wait till you see Jeb Bushes face if I can find it for you..  Wink
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UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 4:31pm:
Richdude wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 11:37am:
Marla wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 4:22am:
YAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWN


So the murder of 3,000 fellow countrymen is OK with you?

Of course you are a fascist/commo and the means justifies the ends. How do you know that you maybe next - is that OK to?


The murder of 3,000 mostly Americans was okay with the Bush administration. You could tell when Mr Bush was giving the disingenuous gaze during his notification about the attack.

Had the United States government wanted to stop this attack from happening, they would have prevented it with ease. The fact that they have had so many years to prevent a terrorist attack like the September 11 attacks, given that evidence after evidence has come forward that they counter terrorism people knew about the attack, just proves that the United States government was complicit in the attacks.


The "counter terrorism experts" who appeared out of nowhere that morning. Knew within an hour of the twin towers collapse that the mastermind was a man living in a cave the other side of the World. A conclusion without any real proof and no investigation needed.

Only "conspiracy theorists" questioned the official narrative - the only ones with working brains.  Wink
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Richdude wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 11:37am:
So the murder of 3,000 fellow countrymen is OK with you?

Of course you are a fascist/commo and the means justifies the ends. How do you know that you maybe next - is that OK to?





When you pull the conspiracy poo from the likes of 4Chan? Do.bugger.Off.
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Reply #19 - Dec 15th, 2018 at 11:03am
 
Marla wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 6:32am:
Richdude wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 11:37am:
So the murder of 3,000 fellow countrymen is OK with you?

Of course you are a fascist/commo and the means justifies the ends. How do you know that you maybe next - is that OK to?





When you pull the conspiracy poo from the likes of 4Chan? Do.bugger.Off.


You have a problem with facts so FTFU!

Or does the murder of 3,000 fellow Americans makes you happy?
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Reply #20 - Dec 15th, 2018 at 11:09am
 
Richdude wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 11:03am:
Marla wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 6:32am:
Richdude wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 11:37am:
So the murder of 3,000 fellow countrymen is OK with you?

Of course you are a fascist/commo and the means justifies the ends. How do you know that you maybe next - is that OK to?





When you pull the conspiracy poo from the likes of 4Chan? Do.bugger.Off.


You have a problem with facts so FTFU!

Or does the murder of 3,000 fellow Americans makes you happy?


Of course not, but that's also not proof of your claim.
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Reply #21 - Dec 15th, 2018 at 12:50pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 11:09am:
Richdude wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 11:03am:
Marla wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 6:32am:
Richdude wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 11:37am:
So the murder of 3,000 fellow countrymen is OK with you?

Of course you are a fascist/commo and the means justifies the ends. How do you know that you maybe next - is that OK to?





When you pull the conspiracy poo from the likes of 4Chan? Do.bugger.Off.


You have a problem with facts so FTFU!

Or does the murder of 3,000 fellow Americans makes you happy?


Of course not, but that's also not proof of your claim.


We know that the official version is BS... OK!  Do You? 

When was the last time you saw a building explode into dust before and since 9/11. Moreover 3 buildings - all in the same day. Nothing to see here - move on! 

Or do you think that burying the events of 9/11 is best and ignore the massacre that day even though the same tyrants are still at large and are a very real threat?


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Reply #22 - Dec 15th, 2018 at 12:54pm
 
9/11 commission report was corrupt and even commissioners dissociated themselves from the report.

The NIST report is not peer-reviewed because NIST obstructs peer review. It's corrupt.
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Reply #23 - Dec 15th, 2018 at 12:59pm
 
Richdude wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 12:50pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 11:09am:
Richdude wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 11:03am:
Marla wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 6:32am:
Richdude wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 11:37am:
So the murder of 3,000 fellow countrymen is OK with you?

Of course you are a fascist/commo and the means justifies the ends. How do you know that you maybe next - is that OK to?





When you pull the conspiracy poo from the likes of 4Chan? Do.bugger.Off.


You have a problem with facts so FTFU!

Or does the murder of 3,000 fellow Americans makes you happy?


Of course not, but that's also not proof of your claim.


We know that the official version is BS... OK!  Do You? 

When was the last time you saw a building explode into dust before and since 9/11. Moreover 3 buildings - all in the same day. Nothing to see here - move on! 

Or do you think that burying the events of 9/11 is best and ignore the massacre that day even though the same tyrants are still at large and are a very real threat?




Al-Qaeda apologist.

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Reply #24 - Dec 15th, 2018 at 1:20pm
 
Richdude wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 12:50pm:
We know that the official version is BS... OK!  Do You? 

When was the last time you saw a building explode into dust before and since 9/11. Moreover 3 buildings - all in the same day. Nothing to see here - move on! 

Or do you think that burying the events of 9/11 is best and ignore the massacre that day even though the same tyrants are still at large and are a very real threat?


I don't know what happened during September 11th.

Global deep state conspiracy, or opportunistic smaller foe exploiting the weakness of a bigger one?

What I will say however is that what you've done is fail to understand a phenomenon you've seen and rather than then going and looking to understand it more, discover the facts or increase your levels of knowledge around engineering, construction, chemistry and physics, you've basically admitted to is,

"I don't understand what happened, therefore, the official explanation doesn't make sense to me.  It's not me or my lack of understanding that's the problem, it must instead be a deep state conspiracy and now that I see the truth, I'm special".

A lack of understanding making you question the official story or its supporting evidence does not immediately validate the opposing explanation.

You still need evidence to prove that it was an inside job, which you don't have.
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Reply #25 - Dec 15th, 2018 at 10:57pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 1:20pm:
Richdude wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 12:50pm:
We know that the official version is BS... OK!  Do You? 

When was the last time you saw a building explode into dust before and since 9/11. Moreover 3 buildings - all in the same day. Nothing to see here - move on! 

Or do you think that burying the events of 9/11 is best and ignore the massacre that day even though the same tyrants are still at large and are a very real threat?


I don't know what happened during September 11th.

Global deep state conspiracy, or opportunistic smaller foe exploiting the weakness of a bigger one?

What I will say however is that what you've done is fail to understand a phenomenon you've seen and rather than then going and looking to understand it more, discover the facts or increase your levels of knowledge around engineering, construction, chemistry and physics, you've basically admitted to is,

"I don't understand what happened, therefore, the official explanation doesn't make sense to me.  It's not me or my lack of understanding that's the problem, it must instead be a deep state conspiracy and now that I see the truth, I'm special".

A lack of understanding making you question the official story or its supporting evidence does not immediately validate the opposing explanation.

You still need evidence to prove that it was an inside job, which you don't have.


Sad I am an engineer who has researched 9/11 thoroughly.

Those buildings were preplanned for demolition. Building 7 had offices for the IRS and Rudy Guiliani's  "bunker" - it was full of highly secure Gov offices. Building 7 was not hit by a plane - was a block away from the twin towers and suffered minor damage and fires. Yet collapsed in a textbook controlled demolition.

So how did the demolition team get access unless ....... ?


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Reply #26 - Dec 16th, 2018 at 1:57am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 1:20pm:
Richdude wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 12:50pm:
We know that the official version is BS... OK!  Do You? 

When was the last time you saw a building explode into dust before and since 9/11. Moreover 3 buildings - all in the same day. Nothing to see here - move on! 

Or do you think that burying the events of 9/11 is best and ignore the massacre that day even though the same tyrants are still at large and are a very real threat?


I don't know what happened during September 11th.

Global deep state conspiracy, or opportunistic smaller foe exploiting the weakness of a bigger one?

What I will say however is that what you've done is fail to understand a phenomenon you've seen and rather than then going and looking to understand it more, discover the facts or increase your levels of knowledge around engineering, construction, chemistry and physics, you've basically admitted to is,

"I don't understand what happened, therefore, the official explanation doesn't make sense to me.  It's not me or my lack of understanding that's the problem, it must instead be a deep state conspiracy and now that I see the truth, I'm special".

A lack of understanding making you question the official story or its supporting evidence does not immediately validate the opposing explanation.

You still need evidence to prove that it was an inside job, which you don't have.



But I do and so have you.

Just look at the way those buildings came down. They turned to dust mid air at free fall speed. That means there was no energy lost in collision - yet the structure still dissolved. How can that be a "progressive or pancake collapse"? It can't because well placed explosives, pyro technology and whatever was used.

The residue from the towers were analysed and found to contain thermitic and explosive material. 

Of course the 9/11 Commission Report found no evidence of explosives. Why? They didn't test for explosives.

The evidence is all there only the dumbest of the dumb  accept the official account.

Heres a quote that perfectly explains you, Bojack, DNA, Rino et all mind set.

“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It's simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we've been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over, you almost never get it back.”
— Carl Sagan


And you my Sad friend have been taken in and no longer hunger for the truth. Grow the F... up numbskull!
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Reply #27 - Dec 16th, 2018 at 2:15am
 
Richdude wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 10:57pm:
Sad I am an engineer who has researched 9/11 thoroughly.

Those buildings were preplanned for demolition. Building 7 had offices for the IRS and Rudy Guiliani's  "bunker" - it was full of highly secure Gov offices. Building 7 was not hit by a plane - was a block away from the twin towers and suffered minor damage and fires. Yet collapsed in a textbook controlled demolition.

So how did the demolition team get access unless ....... ?


Unless.......what? Don't leave us hanging. Let's hear your nutjob theory.

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Richdude wrote on Dec 16th, 2018 at 1:57am:
The residue from the towers were analysed and found to contain thermitic and explosive material.


Explosive paint!  Grin Grin Grin
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Richdude wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 11:03am:
You have a problem with facts so FTFU!

Or does the murder of 3,000 fellow Americans makes you happy?


Like I told you, asshole. Forge an argument that doesn't come from other conspiracy trolls and 4Chan artards.
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Reply #30 - Dec 16th, 2018 at 5:46am
 
Another 2 dumb trolls - too stupid to come up with a counter argument.

Yep! Dumbest of the dumb - sad reflection on humanity.
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Richdude wrote on Dec 16th, 2018 at 1:57am:
The residue from the towers were analysed and found to contain thermitic and explosive material.


Explosive paint!  Grin Grin Grin


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SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 1:20pm:
Richdude wrote on Dec 15th, 2018 at 12:50pm:
We know that the official version is BS... OK!  Do You? 

When was the last time you saw a building explode into dust before and since 9/11. Moreover 3 buildings - all in the same day. Nothing to see here - move on! 

Or do you think that burying the events of 9/11 is best and ignore the massacre that day even though the same tyrants are still at large and are a very real threat?


I don't know what happened during September 11th.

Global deep state conspiracy, or opportunistic smaller foe exploiting the weakness of a bigger one?

What I will say however is that what you've done is fail to understand a phenomenon you've seen and rather than then going and looking to understand it more, discover the facts or increase your levels of knowledge around engineering, construction, chemistry and physics, you've basically admitted to is,

"I don't understand what happened, therefore, the official explanation doesn't make sense to me.  It's not me or my lack of understanding that's the problem, it must instead be a deep state conspiracy and now that I see the truth, I'm special".

A lack of understanding making you question the official story or its supporting evidence does not immediately validate the opposing explanation.

You still need evidence to prove that it was an inside job, which you don't have.


omg, what a load of horseshit..

time and time and time again evidence has been shown on this forum and you have IGNORED the lot 100%...

you don't even believe your own eyes...

with the thermite that they found at the twin tower sites, which was everywhere, it was estimated there must have been at lease 10 tons of it used to bring the towers down..

there were explosions in the basements before the plans even hit...

tower 7 just fell down into its own footprint...

the only way that this will happen is if its a controlled demolition....

and yet you expect us to just believe it just fell down out of fear?

a "phenomenon"  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

what a smacking moron...

you need to do some of your OWN research so that you can understand what you see with your own eyes so that you don't come on here every day like a retarded deep state propaganda puppet...  Roll Eyes

step one...

watch this..

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"OWN" research.

That's the problem here.  You, nor I, are capable of doing anything but Googling.

That's not research.  There are just as many, if not more plausible explanations that you can Google.

So that's not even what you mean by research, you mean, look up what I say is true and believe it, ignoring the rest.

That's even LESS like research.

If this grand jury process will shed some light on what happened I'm all for it.

It's the closest thing to answers, that won't be crackpot bakers online trying to monetise their conspiracies that we're going to get.
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Reply #34 - Dec 16th, 2018 at 1:07pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 16th, 2018 at 7:22am:
"OWN" research.

That's the problem here.  You, nor I, are capable of doing anything but Googling.

That's not research.  There are just as many, if not more plausible explanations that you can Google.

So that's not even what you mean by research, you mean, look up what I say is true and believe it, ignoring the rest.

That's even LESS like research.

If this grand jury process will shed some light on what happened I'm all for it.

It's the closest thing to answers, that won't be crackpot bakers online trying to monetise their conspiracies that we're going to get.


OK Sad one!

  Why don't you do some research and tell us why 1/2 the 19 Arab terrorists were found and still alive after 9/11 - living in the ME?

EXPLAIN your conspiracy theory to us!
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About time....Too many unanswered questions and bogus answers???

Quote:
Lawyers’ Committee and AE911Truth Launch Joint Project to Ensure Successful Grand Jury Investigation

In a letter dated November 7, 2018, the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York notified the Lawyers’ Committee for 9/11 Inquiry that he would comply with the provisions of 18 U.S.C. § 3332 requiring him to present to a special grand jury the Lawyers’ Committee’s reports filed earlier this year of unprosecuted federal crimes at the World Trade Center.

This means a 23-member grand jury, vested with subpoena power and the authority to take sworn testimony, will hear the voluminous evidence of the World Trade Center’s demolition and will have the ability to conduct a thorough investigation that results in indictments against suspected individuals — in other words, what the 9/11 Truth Movement has been working toward for 17 years.


Smiley Smiley Smiley

https://www.ae911truth.org/news/505-lawyers-committee-and-ae911truth-launch-join...
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Reply #36 - Dec 16th, 2018 at 5:29pm
 
Richdude wrote on Dec 16th, 2018 at 1:07pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 16th, 2018 at 7:22am:
"OWN" research.

That's the problem here.  You, nor I, are capable of doing anything but Googling.

That's not research.  There are just as many, if not more plausible explanations that you can Google.

So that's not even what you mean by research, you mean, look up what I say is true and believe it, ignoring the rest.

That's even LESS like research.

If this grand jury process will shed some light on what happened I'm all for it.

It's the closest thing to answers, that won't be crackpot bakers online trying to monetise their conspiracies that we're going to get.


OK Sad one!

  Why don't you do some research and tell us why 1/2 the 19 Arab terrorists were found and still alive after 9/11 - living in the ME?

EXPLAIN your conspiracy theory to us!


I'd first want to see proof of that claim.

I'm really not up to speed with the ins and outs of the truther movement.
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Reply #37 - Dec 16th, 2018 at 6:28pm
 
Richdude wrote on Dec 16th, 2018 at 1:07pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 16th, 2018 at 7:22am:
"OWN" research.

That's the problem here.  You, nor I, are capable of doing anything but Googling.

That's not research.  There are just as many, if not more plausible explanations that you can Google.

So that's not even what you mean by research, you mean, look up what I say is true and believe it, ignoring the rest.

That's even LESS like research.

If this grand jury process will shed some light on what happened I'm all for it.

It's the closest thing to answers, that won't be crackpot bakers online trying to monetise their conspiracies that we're going to get.


OK Sad one!

  Why don't you do some research and tell us why 1/2 the 19 Arab terrorists were found and still alive after 9/11 - living in the ME?

EXPLAIN your conspiracy theory to us!


Good question.

And why is Elvis working as their private chef?

So many questions.

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Reply #38 - Dec 16th, 2018 at 6:42pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 8:21am:
Richdude wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 1:21am:
For the first time a real investigation will begin - just 17 years later!

All the evidence of explosives and pyrotechnic devices used to bring down the 3 buildings will be assessed by a jury. Expect a cascade of more evidence as others feel safer to come forward.

Those directly involved and those involved in the cover up in the deaths of 3,000 will be pissing themselves. Remember to knowingly cover up a crime is to be considered complicit.


Why are you defending Al-Qaeda?



Al-Quada stood and proudly claimed responsibility for many atrocities, They always said that 9/11 wasn't them.

I do not buy the US did it to themselves conspiracies however it is fairly clear that something happened different to the whole story we have all been told. There are too many holes and obvious false hoods.

We know that a group of Arabs hijacked planes and two were flown into the towers.

We know the building collapsed in a rather odd manner.

We know a second building collapsed in a controlled manner for no apparent reason.

We know that The white house was damaged in a manner inconsistent with the reported event ans the wreckage was not consistent either.

There are many other unanswered questions and questions where the answers do not look to be genuine.

Questions like were the Talaban responsible ? I have no idea but they typically would have claimed responsibility and they didn't, the attack was 100% staffed by Egyptians this is also inconsistent with the Taliban ?

On the day there were various excersises that virtually put the Armed forces out of commission particularly the air force.

IMO there is just too many areas with inadequate explanation.

I don't believe for one second that the US government or agencies are responsible but I am fairly sure that some important information is missing from the public domain.

We knoe there are discrepancies among reports of what crashed into the white house.
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Reply #39 - Dec 16th, 2018 at 6:46pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Dec 16th, 2018 at 6:42pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 8:21am:
Richdude wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 1:21am:
For the first time a real investigation will begin - just 17 years later!

All the evidence of explosives and pyrotechnic devices used to bring down the 3 buildings will be assessed by a jury. Expect a cascade of more evidence as others feel safer to come forward.

Those directly involved and those involved in the cover up in the deaths of 3,000 will be pissing themselves. Remember to knowingly cover up a crime is to be considered complicit.


Why are you defending Al-Qaeda?



Al-Quada stood and proudly claimed responsibility for many atrocities, They always said that 9/11 wasn't them.



Huh?

Bin Laden - Al-Quada leader - claimed responsibility for 9/11.

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Reply #40 - Dec 16th, 2018 at 7:40pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2018 at 6:46pm:
Dnarever wrote on Dec 16th, 2018 at 6:42pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 8:21am:
Richdude wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 1:21am:
For the first time a real investigation will begin - just 17 years later!

All the evidence of explosives and pyrotechnic devices used to bring down the 3 buildings will be assessed by a jury. Expect a cascade of more evidence as others feel safer to come forward.

Those directly involved and those involved in the cover up in the deaths of 3,000 will be pissing themselves. Remember to knowingly cover up a crime is to be considered complicit.


Why are you defending Al-Qaeda?



Al-Quada stood and proudly claimed responsibility for many atrocities, They always said that 9/11 wasn't them.



Huh?

Bin Laden - Al-Quada leader - claimed responsibility for 9/11.



Even a simple Wiki article lists several occasions where Bin Laden denied that his group had any involvement or knowledge. His group had a history of quickly claiming responsibility for other terrorist actions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsibility_for_the_September_11_attacks

Quote:
Immediately after September 11, 2001, bin Laden praised the attacks,[60] but denied responsibility for them.[61] On September 16, 2001, an Al Jazeera news presenter read a message purportedly signed by Osama bin Laden, in which the following words were stated: "I stress that I have not carried out this act, which appears to have been carried out by individuals with their own motivation."[61][62]

In an interview with bin Laden, published in the Pakistani newspaper Ummat Karachi on September 28, 2001, he stated: "I have already said that I am not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act
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Reply #41 - Dec 16th, 2018 at 7:59pm
 
Interesting 9/11 Heroes hardly mentioned. The airforce.put two fighter Jets  up immediately to stop further plane attacks. They had no time to arm the planes so they asked for volunteers to commit suicide by flying into any enemy.


A commander and one female pilot volunteered immediately and patrolled the sky while other fighters were getting prepared.

That's true bravery, volunteering to fly to your death to save others. That female pilot will basically be a public unknown while the likes of Bruce Jenner gets on time magazine.
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Reply #42 - Dec 16th, 2018 at 10:14pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Dec 16th, 2018 at 7:40pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2018 at 6:46pm:
Dnarever wrote on Dec 16th, 2018 at 6:42pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 8:21am:
Richdude wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 1:21am:
For the first time a real investigation will begin - just 17 years later!

All the evidence of explosives and pyrotechnic devices used to bring down the 3 buildings will be assessed by a jury. Expect a cascade of more evidence as others feel safer to come forward.

Those directly involved and those involved in the cover up in the deaths of 3,000 will be pissing themselves. Remember to knowingly cover up a crime is to be considered complicit.


Why are you defending Al-Qaeda?



Al-Quada stood and proudly claimed responsibility for many atrocities, They always said that 9/11 wasn't them.



Huh?

Bin Laden - Al-Quada leader - claimed responsibility for 9/11.



Even a simple Wiki article lists several occasions where Bin Laden denied that his group had any involvement or knowledge. His group had a history of quickly claiming responsibility for other terrorist actions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsibility_for_the_September_11_attacks

Quote:
Immediately after September 11, 2001, bin Laden praised the attacks,[60] but denied responsibility for them.[61] On September 16, 2001, an Al Jazeera news presenter read a message purportedly signed by Osama bin Laden, in which the following words were stated: "I stress that I have not carried out this act, which appears to have been carried out by individuals with their own motivation."[61][62]

In an interview with bin Laden, published in the Pakistani newspaper Ummat Karachi on September 28, 2001, he stated: "I have already said that I am not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act


Ah, no.

He claimed responsibility for the attacks, several times.

Why are so many people making excuses for this bastard?

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Reply #43 - Dec 16th, 2018 at 11:23pm
 
Term Dog wrote on Dec 16th, 2018 at 7:59pm:
Interesting 9/11 Heroes hardly mentioned. The airforce.put two fighter Jets  up immediately to stop further plane attacks. They had no time to arm the planes so they asked for volunteers to commit suicide by flying into any enemy.


A commander and one female pilot volunteered immediately and patrolled the sky while other fighters were getting prepared.

That's true bravery, volunteering to fly to your death to save others. That female pilot will basically be a public unknown while the likes of Bruce Jenner gets on time magazine.



Cool story, bro.

Just making up poo now.
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Reply #44 - Dec 17th, 2018 at 12:04am
 
Marla wrote on Dec 16th, 2018 at 11:23pm:
Term Dog wrote on Dec 16th, 2018 at 7:59pm:
Interesting 9/11 Heroes hardly mentioned. The airforce.put two fighter Jets  up immediately to stop further plane attacks. They had no time to arm the planes so they asked for volunteers to commit suicide by flying into any enemy.


A commander and one female pilot volunteered immediately and patrolled the sky while other fighters were getting prepared.

That's true bravery, volunteering to fly to your death to save others. That female pilot will basically be a public unknown while the likes of Bruce Jenner gets on time magazine.



Cool story, bro.

Just making up poo now.


Heather Penney and Marc H. Sasseville.

They were ordered to scramble and intercept in jets armed with dummy training payloads, but they decided on their own how they would ram the plane. Luckily for them it had already crashed when they arrived. The "asked for volunteers" bit is embellishment on a story that needed none.
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Reply #45 - Dec 17th, 2018 at 12:42am
 
Dnarever wrote on Dec 16th, 2018 at 6:42pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 8:21am:
Richdude wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 1:21am:
For the first time a real investigation will begin - just 17 years later!

All the evidence of explosives and pyrotechnic devices used to bring down the 3 buildings will be assessed by a jury. Expect a cascade of more evidence as others feel safer to come forward.

Those directly involved and those involved in the cover up in the deaths of 3,000 will be pissing themselves. Remember to knowingly cover up a crime is to be considered complicit.


Why are you defending Al-Qaeda?



Al-Quada stood and proudly claimed responsibility for many atrocities, They always said that 9/11 wasn't them.

I do not buy the US did it to themselves conspiracies however it is fairly clear that something happened different to the whole story we have all been told. There are too many holes and obvious false hoods.

We know that a group of Arabs hijacked planes and two were flown into the towers.

We know the building collapsed in a rather odd manner.

We know a second building collapsed in a controlled manner for no apparent reason.

We know that The white house was damaged in a manner inconsistent with the reported event ans the wreckage was not consistent either.

There are many other unanswered questions and questions where the answers do not look to be genuine.

Questions like were the Talaban responsible ? I have no idea but they typically would have claimed responsibility and they didn't, the attack was 100% staffed by Egyptians this is also inconsistent with the Taliban ?

On the day there were various excersises that virtually put the Armed forces out of commission particularly the air force.

IMO there is just too many areas with inadequate explanation.

I don't believe for one second that the US government or agencies are responsible but I am fairly sure that some important information is missing from the public domain.

We knoe there are discrepancies among reports of what crashed into the white house.


Good response but wrong with some of your assertions.

Osama Bin Ladin did admit conducting the events that day but only in a faked video. The Hollywood director admitted the fraud later. Osama actually denied involvement and said that the US shadow government was responsible. Osama died in 2003 - as Benazir Bhutto claimed in a TV interview.
So the famous raid to take out Osama in Pakistan was fake.

We really have no proof that 19 Arab hijackers were responsible. Their names are not on any flight manifest, the video at the Boston terminal was mysteriously turned off. All we have is an undamaged passport that survived the collision and fire when nothing else did. Retrieved from the street below the WTC by a policeman who is now in jail.

You confuse the WH with the Pentagon. It was the Pentagon which was attacked by something.
We don't know what because all the dozens of video tapes were confiscated by the FBI and destroyed as well as any aircraft wreckage with serial numbers that would have identified whatever hit the building.

BTW the FBI was headed at the time by none other than Robert Mueller. Beginning to get the picture?

The Talaban were too independent for the globalists. Of course there is also the sweetener of 600 billion/year of opium. The globalists use US armed forces to target countries outside their control. Witness Iran, Russia and Syria.
 
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Reply #46 - Dec 17th, 2018 at 6:57am
 
Marla wrote on Dec 16th, 2018 at 11:23pm:
Term Dog wrote on Dec 16th, 2018 at 7:59pm:
Interesting 9/11 Heroes hardly mentioned. The airforce.put two fighter Jets  up immediately to stop further plane attacks. They had no time to arm the planes so they asked for volunteers to commit suicide by flying into any enemy.


A commander and one female pilot volunteered immediately and patrolled the sky while other fighters were getting prepared.

That's true bravery, volunteering to fly to your death to save others. That female pilot will basically be a public unknown while the likes of Bruce Jenner gets on time magazine.



Cool story, bro.

Just making up poo now.


Everything else about 9/11 is a lie, but that bit is true.

Roll Eyes
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Reply #47 - Dec 17th, 2018 at 11:08am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 6:57am:
Marla wrote on Dec 16th, 2018 at 11:23pm:
Term Dog wrote on Dec 16th, 2018 at 7:59pm:
Interesting 9/11 Heroes hardly mentioned. The airforce.put two fighter Jets  up immediately to stop further plane attacks. They had no time to arm the planes so they asked for volunteers to commit suicide by flying into any enemy.


A commander and one female pilot volunteered immediately and patrolled the sky while other fighters were getting prepared.

That's true bravery, volunteering to fly to your death to save others. That female pilot will basically be a public unknown while the likes of Bruce Jenner gets on time magazine.



Cool story, bro.

Just making up poo now.


Everything else about 9/11 is a lie, but that bit is true.

Roll Eyes

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Reply #48 - Dec 17th, 2018 at 11:10am
 
Richdude wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 12:42am:
Dnarever wrote on Dec 16th, 2018 at 6:42pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 8:21am:
Richdude wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 1:21am:
For the first time a real investigation will begin - just 17 years later!

All the evidence of explosives and pyrotechnic devices used to bring down the 3 buildings will be assessed by a jury. Expect a cascade of more evidence as others feel safer to come forward.

Those directly involved and those involved in the cover up in the deaths of 3,000 will be pissing themselves. Remember to knowingly cover up a crime is to be considered complicit.


Why are you defending Al-Qaeda?



Al-Quada stood and proudly claimed responsibility for many atrocities, They always said that 9/11 wasn't them.

I do not buy the US did it to themselves conspiracies however it is fairly clear that something happened different to the whole story we have all been told. There are too many holes and obvious false hoods.

We know that a group of Arabs hijacked planes and two were flown into the towers.

We know the building collapsed in a rather odd manner.

We know a second building collapsed in a controlled manner for no apparent reason.

We know that The white house was damaged in a manner inconsistent with the reported event ans the wreckage was not consistent either.

There are many other unanswered questions and questions where the answers do not look to be genuine.

Questions like were the Talaban responsible ? I have no idea but they typically would have claimed responsibility and they didn't, the attack was 100% staffed by Egyptians this is also inconsistent with the Taliban ?

On the day there were various excersises that virtually put the Armed forces out of commission particularly the air force.

IMO there is just too many areas with inadequate explanation.

I don't believe for one second that the US government or agencies are responsible but I am fairly sure that some important information is missing from the public domain.

We knoe there are discrepancies among reports of what crashed into the white house.


Good response but wrong with some of your assertions.

Osama Bin Ladin did admit conducting the events that day but only in a faked video. The Hollywood director admitted the fraud later. Osama actually denied involvement and said that the US shadow government was responsible. Osama died in 2003 - as Benazir Bhutto claimed in a TV interview.
So the famous raid to take out Osama in Pakistan was fake.

We really have no proof that 19 Arab hijackers were responsible. Their names are not on any flight manifest, the video at the Boston terminal was mysteriously turned off. All we have is an undamaged passport that survived the collision and fire when nothing else did. Retrieved from the street below the WTC by a policeman who is now in jail.

You confuse the WH with the Pentagon. It was the Pentagon which was attacked by something.
We don't know what because all the dozens of video tapes were confiscated by the FBI and destroyed as well as any aircraft wreckage with serial numbers that would have identified whatever hit the building.

BTW the FBI was headed at the time by none other than Robert Mueller. Beginning to get the picture?

The Talaban were too independent for the globalists. Of course there is also the sweetener of 600 billion/year of opium. The globalists use US armed forces to target countries outside their control. Witness Iran, Russia and Syria.
 


Please anybody else dispute my post?
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Reply #49 - Dec 17th, 2018 at 11:11am
 
Richdude wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 12:42am:
Dnarever wrote on Dec 16th, 2018 at 6:42pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 8:21am:
Richdude wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 1:21am:
For the first time a real investigation will begin - just 17 years later!

All the evidence of explosives and pyrotechnic devices used to bring down the 3 buildings will be assessed by a jury. Expect a cascade of more evidence as others feel safer to come forward.

Those directly involved and those involved in the cover up in the deaths of 3,000 will be pissing themselves. Remember to knowingly cover up a crime is to be considered complicit.


Why are you defending Al-Qaeda?



Al-Quada stood and proudly claimed responsibility for many atrocities, They always said that 9/11 wasn't them.

I do not buy the US did it to themselves conspiracies however it is fairly clear that something happened different to the whole story we have all been told. There are too many holes and obvious false hoods.

We know that a group of Arabs hijacked planes and two were flown into the towers.

We know the building collapsed in a rather odd manner.

We know a second building collapsed in a controlled manner for no apparent reason.

We know that The white house was damaged in a manner inconsistent with the reported event ans the wreckage was not consistent either.

There are many other unanswered questions and questions where the answers do not look to be genuine.

Questions like were the Talaban responsible ? I have no idea but they typically would have claimed responsibility and they didn't, the attack was 100% staffed by Egyptians this is also inconsistent with the Taliban ?

On the day there were various excersises that virtually put the Armed forces out of commission particularly the air force.

IMO there is just too many areas with inadequate explanation.

I don't believe for one second that the US government or agencies are responsible but I am fairly sure that some important information is missing from the public domain.

We knoe there are discrepancies among reports of what crashed into the white house.


Good response but wrong with some of your assertions.

Osama Bin Ladin did admit conducting the events that day but only in a faked video. The Hollywood director admitted the fraud later. Osama actually denied involvement and said that the US shadow government was responsible. Osama died in 2003 - as Benazir Bhutto claimed in a TV interview.
So the famous raid to take out Osama in Pakistan was fake.

We really have no proof that 19 Arab hijackers were responsible. Their names are not on any flight manifest, the video at the Boston terminal was mysteriously turned off. All we have is an undamaged passport that survived the collision and fire when nothing else did. Retrieved from the street below the WTC by a policeman who is now in jail.

You confuse the WH with the Pentagon. It was the Pentagon which was attacked by something.
We don't know what because all the dozens of video tapes were confiscated by the FBI and destroyed as well as any aircraft wreckage with serial numbers that would have identified whatever hit the building.

BTW the FBI was headed at the time by none other than Robert Mueller. Beginning to get the picture?

The Talaban were too independent for the globalists. Of course there is also the sweetener of 600 billion/year of opium. The globalists use US armed forces to target countries outside their control. Witness Iran, Russia and Syria.
 



And yet still no actual evidence produced of any conspiracy other than the accepted one.

This is too wishy washy. Vague interpretations, round pegs in square holes type of thing.
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The government can't even keep a semen stained dress secret, how do you think it would go at trying to keep this secret.
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 11:12am:
The government can't even keep a semen stained dress secret, how do you think it would go at trying to keep this secret.


Dead men don't talk!

What kind of fwit are you?

The privately owned FED has been in operation for more that a 100 years. Area 51 was denied for decades now it accepted by gov as true. Thats just the start .......

You have been bamboozled your hole life - now you can't accept that fact and you don't have the cajole's to ever admit this.

Here's a quote for you and your other left wing scumbags who cannot deal with reality.

“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It's simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we've been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over, you almost never get it back.”
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Reply #52 - Dec 17th, 2018 at 1:14pm
 
Richdude wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 1:08pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 11:12am:
The government can't even keep a semen stained dress secret, how do you think it would go at trying to keep this secret.


Dead men don't talk!

What kind of fwit are you?

The privately owned FED has been in operation for more that a 100 years. Area 51 was denied for decades now it accepted by gov as true. Thats just the start .......

You have been bamboozled your hole life - now you can't accept that fact and you don't have the cajole's to ever admit this.

Here's a quote for you and your other left wing scumbags who cannot deal with reality.

“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It's simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we've been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over, you almost never get it back.”
— Carl Sagan




The weird thing is Carl Sagan would accept the current version. Why? because of his other saying "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"
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Reply #53 - Dec 17th, 2018 at 1:17pm
 
Richdude wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 1:08pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 11:12am:
The government can't even keep a semen stained dress secret, how do you think it would go at trying to keep this secret.


Dead men don't talk!

What kind of fwit are you?

The privately owned FED has been in operation for more that a 100 years. Area 51 was denied for decades now it accepted by gov as true. Thats just the start .......

You have been bamboozled your hole life - now you can't accept that fact and you don't have the cajole's to ever admit this.


Here's a quote for you and your other left wing scumbags who cannot deal with reality.

“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It's simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we've been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over, you almost never get it back.”
— Carl Sagan





Why the personal insults?

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Reply #54 - Dec 17th, 2018 at 1:20pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 1:14pm:
Richdude wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 1:08pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 11:12am:
The government can't even keep a semen stained dress secret, how do you think it would go at trying to keep this secret.


Dead men don't talk!

What kind of fwit are you?

The privately owned FED has been in operation for more that a 100 years. Area 51 was denied for decades now it accepted by gov as true. Thats just the start .......

You have been bamboozled your hole life - now you can't accept that fact and you don't have the cajole's to ever admit this.

Here's a quote for you and your other left wing scumbags who cannot deal with reality.

“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It's simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we've been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over, you almost never get it back.”
— Carl Sagan




The weird thing is Carl Sagan would accept the current version. Why? because of his other saying "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"


I'm also stuck with the desire to accept the simplest possible theoretical explanation for existing data.

It's not a complicated conspiracy of a faux terrorist attack trying to cover the Government secretly bringing down buildings with their own citizens without leaving any evidence behind, photographic or physical, and nobody has come forward who was part of the plot.

It's a lot to accept on faith alone given that there is no evidence to support it.

There are theories, there are holes in the accepted account of events yes, but this is not evidence supporting an opposition hypothesis.
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Reply #55 - Dec 17th, 2018 at 1:26pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 1:20pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 1:14pm:
Richdude wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 1:08pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 11:12am:
The government can't even keep a semen stained dress secret, how do you think it would go at trying to keep this secret.


Dead men don't talk!

What kind of fwit are you?

The privately owned FED has been in operation for more that a 100 years. Area 51 was denied for decades now it accepted by gov as true. Thats just the start .......

You have been bamboozled your hole life - now you can't accept that fact and you don't have the cajole's to ever admit this.

Here's a quote for you and your other left wing scumbags who cannot deal with reality.

“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It's simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we've been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over, you almost never get it back.”
— Carl Sagan




The weird thing is Carl Sagan would accept the current version. Why? because of his other saying "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"


I'm also stuck with the desire to accept the simplest possible theoretical explanation for existing data.

It's not a complicated conspiracy of a faux terrorist attack trying to cover the Government secretly bringing down buildings with their own citizens without leaving any evidence behind, photographic or physical, and nobody has come forward who was part of the plot.

It's a lot to accept on faith alone given that there is no evidence to support it.

There are theories, there are holes in the accepted account of events yes, but this is not evidence supporting an opposition hypothesis.



The problem is that from what I've read that CTers don't buy simple explanations. Big events can't have simple causes. E.g. why do people think it was a conspiracy round JFK? because it can't be as simple as one nut in a book depository.
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SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 1:20pm:
There are theories, there are holes in the accepted account of events yes, but this is not evidence supporting an opposition hypothesis.




To me this also goes to it being a like a 1000 piece jigsaw with 20 pieces missing. Yes the pieces are missing, but you can still the jigsaws of a boat.
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Reply #57 - Dec 17th, 2018 at 1:29pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 1:17pm:
Richdude wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 1:08pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 11:12am:
The government can't even keep a semen stained dress secret, how do you think it would go at trying to keep this secret.


Dead men don't talk!

What kind of fwit are you?

The privately owned FED has been in operation for more that a 100 years. Area 51 was denied for decades now it accepted by gov as true. Thats just the start .......

You have been bamboozled your hole life - now you can't accept that fact and you don't have the cajole's to ever admit this.


Here's a quote for you and your other left wing scumbags who cannot deal with reality.

“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It's simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we've been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over, you almost never get it back.”
— Carl Sagan





Why the personal insults?




My guess the personal insults stem from the fact you are a worthless troll??
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Reply #58 - Dec 17th, 2018 at 1:35pm
 
Term Dog wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 1:29pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 1:17pm:
Richdude wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 1:08pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 11:12am:
The government can't even keep a semen stained dress secret, how do you think it would go at trying to keep this secret.


Dead men don't talk!

What kind of fwit are you?

The privately owned FED has been in operation for more that a 100 years. Area 51 was denied for decades now it accepted by gov as true. Thats just the start .......

You have been bamboozled your hole life - now you can't accept that fact and you don't have the cajole's to ever admit this.


Here's a quote for you and your other left wing scumbags who cannot deal with reality.

“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It's simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we've been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over, you almost never get it back.”
— Carl Sagan





Why the personal insults?




My guess the personal insults stem from the fact you are a worthless troll??


They aren't directed towards me.

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The American Government would never consider orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities as a pretext to go to war....Yet that is exactly what they did???

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In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.

Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.

The plans were developed as ways to trick the American public and the international community into supporting a war to oust Cuba's then new leader, communist Fidel Castro.

America's top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties, writing: "We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba," and, "casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation."

Details of the plans are described in Body of Secrets (Doubleday), a new book by investigative reporter James Bamford about the history of America's largest spy agency, the National Security Agency. However, the plans were not connected to the agency, he notes.

The plans had the written approval of all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and were presented to President Kennedy's defense secretary, Robert McNamara, in March 1962. But they apparently were rejected by the civilian leadership and have gone undisclosed for nearly 40 years.


Huh Huh Huh

https://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1
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Are the flat Earth society in on this one!
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 11:11am:
Richdude wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 12:42am:
Dnarever wrote on Dec 16th, 2018 at 6:42pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 8:21am:
Richdude wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 1:21am:
For the first time a real investigation will begin - just 17 years later!

All the evidence of explosives and pyrotechnic devices used to bring down the 3 buildings will be assessed by a jury. Expect a cascade of more evidence as others feel safer to come forward.

Those directly involved and those involved in the cover up in the deaths of 3,000 will be pissing themselves. Remember to knowingly cover up a crime is to be considered complicit.


Why are you defending Al-Qaeda?



Al-Quada stood and proudly claimed responsibility for many atrocities, They always said that 9/11 wasn't them.

I do not buy the US did it to themselves conspiracies however it is fairly clear that something happened different to the whole story we have all been told. There are too many holes and obvious false hoods.

We know that a group of Arabs hijacked planes and two were flown into the towers.

We know the building collapsed in a rather odd manner.

We know a second building collapsed in a controlled manner for no apparent reason.

We know that The white house was damaged in a manner inconsistent with the reported event ans the wreckage was not consistent either.

There are many other unanswered questions and questions where the answers do not look to be genuine.

Questions like were the Talaban responsible ? I have no idea but they typically would have claimed responsibility and they didn't, the attack was 100% staffed by Egyptians this is also inconsistent with the Taliban ?

On the day there were various excersises that virtually put the Armed forces out of commission particularly the air force.

IMO there is just too many areas with inadequate explanation.

I don't believe for one second that the US government or agencies are responsible but I am fairly sure that some important information is missing from the public domain.

We knoe there are discrepancies among reports of what crashed into the white house.


Good response but wrong with some of your assertions.

Osama Bin Ladin did admit conducting the events that day but only in a faked video. The Hollywood director admitted the fraud later. Osama actually denied involvement and said that the US shadow government was responsible. Osama died in 2003 - as Benazir Bhutto claimed in a TV interview.
So the famous raid to take out Osama in Pakistan was fake.

We really have no proof that 19 Arab hijackers were responsible. Their names are not on any flight manifest, the video at the Boston terminal was mysteriously turned off. All we have is an undamaged passport that survived the collision and fire when nothing else did. Retrieved from the street below the WTC by a policeman who is now in jail.

You confuse the WH with the Pentagon. It was the Pentagon which was attacked by something.
We don't know what because all the dozens of video tapes were confiscated by the FBI and destroyed as well as any aircraft wreckage with serial numbers that would have identified whatever hit the building.

BTW the FBI was headed at the time by none other than Robert Mueller. Beginning to get the picture?

The Talaban were too independent for the globalists. Of course there is also the sweetener of 600 billion/year of opium. The globalists use US armed forces to target countries outside their control. Witness Iran, Russia and Syria.
 



And yet still no actual evidence produced of any conspiracy other than the accepted one.

This is too wishy washy. Vague interpretations, round pegs in square holes type of thing.


LOL!

You mean it doesn't fit with your square views in a round World. Don't want it to, do you! Your happy and content with your World the way it is. Thats OK but don't try to interfere with others who seek to find the truth and in so doing learnt a great deal more than you.

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What we do know for certain is the Bush administration used 9/11 to orchestrate a war with Iraq who had nothing to do with the attacks on America....People just keep trying to justify America's war for oil by overlooking the obvious....America is the evil empire which cannot be trusted and cannot be stopped!!!

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Richdude wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 12:42am:
LOL!

You mean it doesn't fit with your square views in a round World. Don't want it to, do you! Your happy and content with your World the way it is. Thats OK but don't try to interfere with others who seek to find the truth and in so doing learnt a great deal more than you.





To be honest Richdude for someone with a supposed PhD (which I don't believe for a single second), this should be extremely easy. If you want to convince me of this great conspiracy, produce credible evidence that has been reviewed.
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 8:38am:
Richdude wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 12:42am:
LOL!

You mean it doesn't fit with your square views in a round World. Don't want it to, do you! Your happy and content with your World the way it is. Thats OK but don't try to interfere with others who seek to find the truth and in so doing learnt a great deal more than you.





To be honest Richdude for someone with a supposed PhD (which I don't believe for a single second), this should be extremely easy. If you want to convince me of this great conspiracy, produce credible evidence that has been reviewed.


  You mean that you not honest in all your posts? That figures. Your an idiot!

You obviously don't know much but not knowing makes you feel comfy. Rest easy..........
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Richdude wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 11:26am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 8:38am:
Richdude wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 12:42am:
LOL!

You mean it doesn't fit with your square views in a round World. Don't want it to, do you! Your happy and content with your World the way it is. Thats OK but don't try to interfere with others who seek to find the truth and in so doing learnt a great deal more than you.





To be honest Richdude for someone with a supposed PhD (which I don't believe for a single second), this should be extremely easy. If you want to convince me of this great conspiracy, produce credible evidence that has been reviewed.


  You mean that you not honest in all your posts? That figures. Your an idiot!





1. It's a figure of speech, not an actual description of lying versus truth telling2
2. I just adore the irony of being called an idiot by someone who uses your instead of you're.
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Now hand over that PhD.
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Now hand over that PhD.


You are a drug addict who spends his time watching children's cartoons. Pathetic! 
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 11:28am:
Now hand over that PhD.


You are a drug addict who spends his time watching children's cartoons. Pathetic! 




Weirdly vague insult. Which drugs by the way would I be addicted to?
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 12:34pm:
Richdude wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 12:17pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 11:28am:
Now hand over that PhD.


You are a drug addict who spends his time watching children's cartoons. Pathetic! 




Weirdly vague insult. Which drugs by the way would I be addicted to?


I'm more interested in the children's cartoons bit.

Surely he's not referring to Bojack Horseman.

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Richdude wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 11:26am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 8:38am:
Richdude wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 12:42am:
LOL!

You mean it doesn't fit with your square views in a round World. Don't want it to, do you! Your happy and content with your World the way it is. Thats OK but don't try to interfere with others who seek to find the truth and in so doing learnt a great deal more than you.





To be honest Richdude for someone with a supposed PhD (which I don't believe for a single second), this should be extremely easy. If you want to convince me of this great conspiracy, produce credible evidence that has been reviewed.


  You mean that you not honest in all your posts? That figures. Your an idiot!

You obviously don't know much but not knowing makes you feel comfy. Rest easy..........


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greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 12:49pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 12:34pm:
Richdude wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 12:17pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 11:28am:
Now hand over that PhD.


You are a drug addict who spends his time watching children's cartoons. Pathetic! 




Weirdly vague insult. Which drugs by the way would I be addicted to?


I'm more interested in the children's cartoons bit.

Surely he's not referring to Bojack Horseman.





Probably, its definitely not a kids cartoon. Like Archer.
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 12:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 12:49pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 12:34pm:
Richdude wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 12:17pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 11:28am:
Now hand over that PhD.


You are a drug addict who spends his time watching children's cartoons. Pathetic! 




Weirdly vague insult. Which drugs by the way would I be addicted to?


I'm more interested in the children's cartoons bit.

Surely he's not referring to Bojack Horseman.





Probably, its definitely not a kids cartoon. Like Archer.


I suppose he thinks 'F is for Family' is a kids cartoon too.

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Richdude wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 12:42am:
Dnarever wrote on Dec 16th, 2018 at 6:42pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 8:21am:
Richdude wrote on Dec 14th, 2018 at 1:21am:
For the first time a real investigation will begin - just 17 years later!

All the evidence of explosives and pyrotechnic devices used to bring down the 3 buildings will be assessed by a jury. Expect a cascade of more evidence as others feel safer to come forward.

Those directly involved and those involved in the cover up in the deaths of 3,000 will be pissing themselves. Remember to knowingly cover up a crime is to be considered complicit.


Why are you defending Al-Qaeda?



Al-Quada stood and proudly claimed responsibility for many atrocities, They always said that 9/11 wasn't them.

I do not buy the US did it to themselves conspiracies however it is fairly clear that something happened different to the whole story we have all been told. There are too many holes and obvious false hoods.

We know that a group of Arabs hijacked planes and two were flown into the towers.

We know the building collapsed in a rather odd manner.

We know a second building collapsed in a controlled manner for no apparent reason.

We know that The white house was damaged in a manner inconsistent with the reported event ans the wreckage was not consistent either.

There are many other unanswered questions and questions where the answers do not look to be genuine.

Questions like were the Talaban responsible ? I have no idea but they typically would have claimed responsibility and they didn't, the attack was 100% staffed by Egyptians this is also inconsistent with the Taliban ?

On the day there were various excersises that virtually put the Armed forces out of commission particularly the air force.

IMO there is just too many areas with inadequate explanation.

I don't believe for one second that the US government or agencies are responsible but I am fairly sure that some important information is missing from the public domain.

We knoe there are discrepancies among reports of what crashed into the white house.


Good response but wrong with some of your assertions.

Osama Bin Ladin did admit conducting the events that day but only in a faked video. The Hollywood director admitted the fraud later. Osama actually denied involvement and said that the US shadow government was responsible. Osama died in 2003 - as Benazir Bhutto claimed in a TV interview.
So the famous raid to take out Osama in Pakistan was fake.

We really have no proof that 19 Arab hijackers were responsible. Their names are not on any flight manifest, the video at the Boston terminal was mysteriously turned off. All we have is an undamaged passport that survived the collision and fire when nothing else did. Retrieved from the street below the WTC by a policeman who is now in jail.

You confuse the WH with the Pentagon. It was the Pentagon which was attacked by something.
We don't know what because all the dozens of video tapes were confiscated by the FBI and destroyed as well as any aircraft wreckage with serial numbers that would have identified whatever hit the building.

BTW the FBI was headed at the time by none other than Robert Mueller. Beginning to get the picture?

The Talaban were too independent for the globalists. Of course there is also the sweetener of 600 billion/year of opium. The globalists use US armed forces to target countries outside their control. Witness Iran, Russia and Syria.
 


You confuse the WH with the Pentagon.


Yes they was dumb.
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Reply #74 - Dec 18th, 2018 at 7:10pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 1:20pm:
There are theories, there are holes in the accepted account of events yes, but this is not evidence supporting an opposition hypothesis.




To me this also goes to it being a like a 1000 piece jigsaw with 20 pieces missing. Yes the pieces are missing, but you can still the jigsaws of a boat.


It isn't really that the pieces are missing it is more that someone changed the pieces in a way that makes the boat look more like a duck.

Every single section of the picture has been tampered with to some degree.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 12:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 12:49pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 12:34pm:
Richdude wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 12:17pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 11:28am:
Now hand over that PhD.


You are a drug addict who spends his time watching children's cartoons. Pathetic! 




Weirdly vague insult. Which drugs by the way would I be addicted to?


I'm more interested in the children's cartoons bit.

Surely he's not referring to Bojack Horseman.





Probably, its definitely not a kids cartoon. Like Archer.


I suppose he thinks 'F is for Family' is a kids cartoon too.

Smiley


My bad - I thought it was a kids cartoon.
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Dnarever wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 7:10pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 1:20pm:
There are theories, there are holes in the accepted account of events yes, but this is not evidence supporting an opposition hypothesis.




To me this also goes to it being a like a 1000 piece jigsaw with 20 pieces missing. Yes the pieces are missing, but you can still the jigsaws of a boat.


It isn't really that the pieces are missing it is more that someone changed the pieces in a way that makes the boat look more like a duck.

Every single section of the picture has been tampered with to some degree.



I respectfully disagree.
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Reply #77 - Dec 19th, 2018 at 8:49am
 
Richdude wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 10:49pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 12:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 12:49pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 12:34pm:
Richdude wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 12:17pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 11:28am:
Now hand over that PhD.


You are a drug addict who spends his time watching children's cartoons. Pathetic! 




Weirdly vague insult. Which drugs by the way would I be addicted to?


I'm more interested in the children's cartoons bit.

Surely he's not referring to Bojack Horseman.





Probably, its definitely not a kids cartoon. Like Archer.


I suppose he thinks 'F is for Family' is a kids cartoon too.

Smiley


My bad - I thought it was a kids cartoon.



Why because it was a cartoon?
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Reply #78 - Dec 19th, 2018 at 7:08pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 19th, 2018 at 8:49am:
Dnarever wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 7:10pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 1:20pm:
There are theories, there are holes in the accepted account of events yes, but this is not evidence supporting an opposition hypothesis.




To me this also goes to it being a like a 1000 piece jigsaw with 20 pieces missing. Yes the pieces are missing, but you can still the jigsaws of a boat.


It isn't really that the pieces are missing it is more that someone changed the pieces in a way that makes the boat look more like a duck.

Every single section of the picture has been tampered with to some degree.



I respectfully disagree.


The collapse of the twin towers , the third building the Pentagon damage all have significant flaws in the details released as well as so much of the peripheral reports from who did it the armed forces were having a day out and not available all the pentagon cameras were off and none of the reports align with known facts.

We are not talking about 20 pieces missing - there appears to have been tampering with the shape of every part of the story.

I don't know what happened but am fairly certain that it was different from what we have been told.
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Reply #79 - Dec 20th, 2018 at 4:50am
 
Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2018 at 7:08pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 19th, 2018 at 8:49am:
Dnarever wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 7:10pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 1:20pm:
There are theories, there are holes in the accepted account of events yes, but this is not evidence supporting an opposition hypothesis.




To me this also goes to it being a like a 1000 piece jigsaw with 20 pieces missing. Yes the pieces are missing, but you can still the jigsaws of a boat.


It isn't really that the pieces are missing it is more that someone changed the pieces in a way that makes the boat look more like a duck.

Every single section of the picture has been tampered with to some degree.



I respectfully disagree.


The collapse of the twin towers , the third building the Pentagon damage all have significant flaws in the details released as well as so much of the peripheral reports from who did it the armed forces were having a day out and not available all the pentagon cameras were off and none of the reports align with known facts.

We are not talking about 20 pieces missing - there appears to have been tampering with the shape of every part of the story.

I don't know what happened but am fairly certain that it was different from what we have been told.


The third building in NY that collapsed after the twin towers, was not hit by a plane. A second or 2 before building 7 collapsed, you could see flashes and the impact of internal explosions rippling across the windows of the building. Classic conventional controlled demolition.

The twin towers were different. Firemen in the buildings claimed that the fire would be quickly under control. The dense black smoke was an indicator of a low temp smoldering fires. Then they collapsed!

There was 110 acres of 6-8" thick lightweight concrete steel reinforced floors plus their supporting trusses. Steel reinforced concrete forms a strong bond. Visit any demolition site and see how hard it is to remove steel reinforced concrete. The steel has to be cut into smaller sections to make it manageable. Yet, where were the floors after the collapse? Gone! Spread over many square miles as a 1" thick layer of grey dust - some micron size particles drifted and stayed airborne for hours.

Only explosives could provide the pressures needed to achieve this. 



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Golly! Now was this before or after the MOON NAZI chemtrails?
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Marla wrote on Dec 20th, 2018 at 5:21am:
Golly! Now was this before or after the MOON NAZI chemtrails?


It's actually space lasers to start forest fires along the path of a proposed high speed rail line that the deep state elite globalists want to use the transport children more easily for their trade in order to beat, rape and torture them for their precious adrenochrome that helps the like of the Rothschilds and more importantly, Killary Clinton live on despite their age.  They've become desperate because Trump has shut down all their other child trafficking rings which is why at least Clinton's health is in the decline, no more adrenochrome.

It would be funny if this wasn't what QTards actually believed.  This was the foundation of Pizzagate which is of course what spawned Q.

All of which there is zero evidence for but why would a conspiracy spawning an entire movement need to be true?

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Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2018 at 7:08pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 19th, 2018 at 8:49am:
Dnarever wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 7:10pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 1:20pm:
There are theories, there are holes in the accepted account of events yes, but this is not evidence supporting an opposition hypothesis.




To me this also goes to it being a like a 1000 piece jigsaw with 20 pieces missing. Yes the pieces are missing, but you can still the jigsaws of a boat.


It isn't really that the pieces are missing it is more that someone changed the pieces in a way that makes the boat look more like a duck.

Every single section of the picture has been tampered with to some degree.



I respectfully disagree.


The collapse of the twin towers , the third building the Pentagon damage all have significant flaws in the details released as well as so much of the peripheral reports from who did it the armed forces were having a day out and not available all the pentagon cameras were off and none of the reports align with known facts.

We are not talking about 20 pieces missing - there appears to have been tampering with the shape of every part of the story.

I don't know what happened but am fairly certain that it was different from what we have been told.



Can you please point out these flaws, instead of just saying there were flaws

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Reply #83 - Dec 20th, 2018 at 10:04am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 20th, 2018 at 8:49am:
Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2018 at 7:08pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 19th, 2018 at 8:49am:
Dnarever wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 7:10pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 1:20pm:
There are theories, there are holes in the accepted account of events yes, but this is not evidence supporting an opposition hypothesis.




To me this also goes to it being a like a 1000 piece jigsaw with 20 pieces missing. Yes the pieces are missing, but you can still the jigsaws of a boat.


It isn't really that the pieces are missing it is more that someone changed the pieces in a way that makes the boat look more like a duck.

Every single section of the picture has been tampered with to some degree.



I respectfully disagree.


The collapse of the twin towers , the third building the Pentagon damage all have significant flaws in the details released as well as so much of the peripheral reports from who did it the armed forces were having a day out and not available all the pentagon cameras were off and none of the reports align with known facts.

We are not talking about 20 pieces missing - there appears to have been tampering with the shape of every part of the story.

I don't know what happened but am fairly certain that it was different from what we have been told.



Can you please point out these flaws, instead of just saying there were flaws



DNA is beginning to wise up Bojack!

Where as you sfb are as clueless as ever.

If you want flaws which are endless - just start with the fact that almost 1/2 of the alleged hijackers were still alive after 9/11.

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Reply #84 - Dec 20th, 2018 at 10:05am
 
Richdude wrote on Dec 20th, 2018 at 10:04am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 20th, 2018 at 8:49am:
Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2018 at 7:08pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 19th, 2018 at 8:49am:
Dnarever wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 7:10pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 1:20pm:
There are theories, there are holes in the accepted account of events yes, but this is not evidence supporting an opposition hypothesis.




To me this also goes to it being a like a 1000 piece jigsaw with 20 pieces missing. Yes the pieces are missing, but you can still the jigsaws of a boat.


It isn't really that the pieces are missing it is more that someone changed the pieces in a way that makes the boat look more like a duck.

Every single section of the picture has been tampered with to some degree.



I respectfully disagree.


The collapse of the twin towers , the third building the Pentagon damage all have significant flaws in the details released as well as so much of the peripheral reports from who did it the armed forces were having a day out and not available all the pentagon cameras were off and none of the reports align with known facts.

We are not talking about 20 pieces missing - there appears to have been tampering with the shape of every part of the story.

I don't know what happened but am fairly certain that it was different from what we have been told.



Can you please point out these flaws, instead of just saying there were flaws



DNA is beginning to wise up Bojack!

Where as you sfb are as clueless as ever.

If you want flaws which are endless - just start with the fact that almost 1/2 of the alleged hijackers were still alive after 9/11.




just start with the fact that almost 1/2 of the alleged hijackers were still alive after 9/11.


Reference? You know one of those things you should be adding in your PhD?
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Reply #85 - Dec 20th, 2018 at 12:38pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 20th, 2018 at 10:05am:
Richdude wrote on Dec 20th, 2018 at 10:04am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 20th, 2018 at 8:49am:
Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2018 at 7:08pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 19th, 2018 at 8:49am:
Dnarever wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 7:10pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 1:20pm:
There are theories, there are holes in the accepted account of events yes, but this is not evidence supporting an opposition hypothesis.




To me this also goes to it being a like a 1000 piece jigsaw with 20 pieces missing. Yes the pieces are missing, but you can still the jigsaws of a boat.


It isn't really that the pieces are missing it is more that someone changed the pieces in a way that makes the boat look more like a duck.

Every single section of the picture has been tampered with to some degree.



I respectfully disagree.


The collapse of the twin towers , the third building the Pentagon damage all have significant flaws in the details released as well as so much of the peripheral reports from who did it the armed forces were having a day out and not available all the pentagon cameras were off and none of the reports align with known facts.

We are not talking about 20 pieces missing - there appears to have been tampering with the shape of every part of the story.

I don't know what happened but am fairly certain that it was different from what we have been told.



Can you please point out these flaws, instead of just saying there were flaws



DNA is beginning to wise up Bojack!

Where as you sfb are as clueless as ever.

If you want flaws which are endless - just start with the fact that almost 1/2 of the alleged hijackers were still alive after 9/11.




just start with the fact that almost 1/2 of the alleged hijackers were still alive after 9/11.


Reference? You know one of those things you should be adding in your PhD?


You are befuddled!

It was the the BBC that found through its investigation that almost half of the alleged hijackers were still alive and living in the ME.

So the conclusion is that these hijackers ID's were stolen to create an impression in the public mind that the American public were under attack by Muslim extremists. Thus giving the excuse to invade the ME and override the Constitution.

You really need to get a REAL education!




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Reply #86 - Dec 20th, 2018 at 12:39pm
 
Richdude wrote on Dec 20th, 2018 at 12:38pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 20th, 2018 at 10:05am:
Richdude wrote on Dec 20th, 2018 at 10:04am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 20th, 2018 at 8:49am:
Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2018 at 7:08pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 19th, 2018 at 8:49am:
Dnarever wrote on Dec 18th, 2018 at 7:10pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 17th, 2018 at 1:20pm:
There are theories, there are holes in the accepted account of events yes, but this is not evidence supporting an opposition hypothesis.




To me this also goes to it being a like a 1000 piece jigsaw with 20 pieces missing. Yes the pieces are missing, but you can still the jigsaws of a boat.


It isn't really that the pieces are missing it is more that someone changed the pieces in a way that makes the boat look more like a duck.

Every single section of the picture has been tampered with to some degree.



I respectfully disagree.


The collapse of the twin towers , the third building the Pentagon damage all have significant flaws in the details released as well as so much of the peripheral reports from who did it the armed forces were having a day out and not available all the pentagon cameras were off and none of the reports align with known facts.

We are not talking about 20 pieces missing - there appears to have been tampering with the shape of every part of the story.

I don't know what happened but am fairly certain that it was different from what we have been told.



Can you please point out these flaws, instead of just saying there were flaws



DNA is beginning to wise up Bojack!

Where as you sfb are as clueless as ever.

If you want flaws which are endless - just start with the fact that almost 1/2 of the alleged hijackers were still alive after 9/11.




just start with the fact that almost 1/2 of the alleged hijackers were still alive after 9/11.


Reference? You know one of those things you should be adding in your PhD?


You don't read or ignore the BBC.

It was the the BBC that found through its investigation that almost half of the alleged hijackers were still alive and living in the ME.

So the conclusion is that these hijackers ID's were stolen to create an impression in the public mind that the American public were under attack by Muslim extremists.

You really need to get a REAL education!







Then it should be easy to provide a reference, dude. You know the stuff that should be in a PhD. Show me a link to this.
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I mark 1st year essays with better referencing than most of the idiots on here.
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I mark 1st year essays with better referencing than most of the idiots on here.


Thats because you are high on drugs.
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 20th, 2018 at 12:40pm:
I mark 1st year essays with better referencing than most of the idiots on here.


Thats because you are high on drugs.




Let me repeat this one more time. If that report was on BBC it should be easy for you to find and quote here.


This is why I like longweekend58 don't believe you have a PhD. You seemingly have no idea of the requirement to provide evidence for statements you make.
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Tell me. How does a 110 story building collapse into its own footprint, less than one second after its ejected material?

It can't - the resistance of a massively strong building would prevent the collapse at the speed of gravity.
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Tell me. How does a 110 story building collapse into its own footprint, less than one second after its ejected material?

It can't - the resistance of a massively strong building would prevent the collapse at the speed of gravity.




I'm sorry, go back to my original question, where is the evidence for the half the alleged kidnappers being alive
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Tell me. How does a 110 story building collapse into its own footprint, less than one second after its ejected material?

It can't - the resistance of a massively strong building would prevent the collapse at the speed of gravity.




But since we're asking, wherte does this 1 second come from?


Both buildings collapsed symmetrically and more or less straight down, though there was some tilting of the tops of the towers and a significant amount of fallout to the sides. In both cases, the section of the building that had been damaged by the airplanes failed, which allowed the floors above the impact zone to fall onto the undamaged structure below. As the collapse progressed, dust and debris could be seen shooting out of the windows several floors below the advancing destruction, caused by the sudden rush of air from the upper levels. The first fragments of the outer walls of the collapsed North Tower struck the ground 11 seconds after the collapse started, and parts of the South Tower after 9 seconds. The lower portions of both buildings' cores (60 stories of WTC 1 and 40 stories of WTC 2) remained standing for up to 25 seconds after the start of the initial collapse before they too collapsed.[44]
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Reply #93 - Dec 20th, 2018 at 1:02pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 20th, 2018 at 12:44pm:
Richdude wrote on Dec 20th, 2018 at 12:42pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 20th, 2018 at 12:40pm:
I mark 1st year essays with better referencing than most of the idiots on here.


Thats because you are high on drugs.




Let me repeat this one more time. If that report was on BBC it should be easy for you to find and quote here.


This is why I like longweekend58 don't believe you have a PhD. You seemingly have no idea of the requirement to provide evidence for statements you make.


I don't need to find the BBC's investigations - it was common knowledge at the time - you look it up.

The evidence is in plain sight. The buildings collapsed in about 11 seconds -  about 1 second more than the speed of gravity. You if you are real, you will know that what I say is true.

If not well as we all know you are a paid shill - a blot on humanity and deserved of our contempt.
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Re: Finally a Grand Jury investigation into 9/11
Reply #94 - Dec 20th, 2018 at 1:07pm
 
Richdude wrote on Dec 20th, 2018 at 1:02pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 20th, 2018 at 12:44pm:
Richdude wrote on Dec 20th, 2018 at 12:42pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 20th, 2018 at 12:40pm:
I mark 1st year essays with better referencing than most of the idiots on here.


Thats because you are high on drugs.




Let me repeat this one more time. If that report was on BBC it should be easy for you to find and quote here.


This is why I like longweekend58 don't believe you have a PhD. You seemingly have no idea of the requirement to provide evidence for statements you make.


I don't need to find the BBC's investigations - it was common knowledge at the time - you look it up.

The evidence is in plain sight. The buildings collapsed in about 11 seconds -  about 1 second more than the speed of gravity. You if you are real, you will know that what I say is true.

If not well as we all know you are a paid shill - a blot on humanity and deserved of our contempt.




No it wasnt common knowledge, please produce eevidence

And as for free fall


https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/free-fall Using this calculator for the very top of both WTCs you can see that freefall time is under 10 seconds. So 11 seconds is in the realm of probability. PLease produce your evidence that it isn't.
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No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Reply #95 - Dec 20th, 2018 at 1:08pm
 
And I'm sorry saying it was common knowledge isn't acceptable. This is not the sky is blue common knowledge.
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Reply #96 - Dec 20th, 2018 at 1:18pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 20th, 2018 at 12:58pm:
Richdude wrote on Dec 20th, 2018 at 12:49pm:
Tell me. How does a 110 story building collapse into its own footprint, less than one second after its ejected material?

It can't - the resistance of a massively strong building would prevent the collapse at the speed of gravity.




But since we're asking, wherte does this 1 second come from?


Both buildings collapsed symmetrically and more or less straight down, though there was some tilting of the tops of the towers and a significant amount of fallout to the sides. In both cases, the section of the building that had been damaged by the airplanes failed, which allowed the floors above the impact zone to fall onto the undamaged structure below. As the collapse progressed, dust and debris could be seen shooting out of the windows several floors below the advancing destruction, caused by the sudden rush of air from the upper levels. The first fragments of the outer walls of the collapsed North Tower struck the ground 11 seconds after the collapse started, and parts of the South Tower after 9 seconds. The lower portions of both buildings' cores (60 stories of WTC 1 and 40 stories of WTC 2) remained standing for up to 25 seconds after the start of the initial collapse before they too collapsed.[44]


A progressive collapse? Does that look like a progressive collapse?

The only way such a collapse could occur is that the the lower columns were destroyed in a cascading downward path. Allowing the ejected falling material to hit the ground just 1 second before rest of the collapse.

In other words there was very little resistance to the collapse through the center of the building. The collapse should have stopped or slowed when the disintegrated upper floors hit the undamaged lower floors.

Just logic and Newtonian physics that you seem unaware of.
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Re: Finally a Grand Jury investigation into 9/11
Reply #97 - Dec 20th, 2018 at 1:19pm
 
Richdude wrote on Dec 20th, 2018 at 1:18pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 20th, 2018 at 12:58pm:
Richdude wrote on Dec 20th, 2018 at 12:49pm:
Tell me. How does a 110 story building collapse into its own footprint, less than one second after its ejected material?

It can't - the resistance of a massively strong building would prevent the collapse at the speed of gravity.




But since we're asking, wherte does this 1 second come from?


Both buildings collapsed symmetrically and more or less straight down, though there was some tilting of the tops of the towers and a significant amount of fallout to the sides. In both cases, the section of the building that had been damaged by the airplanes failed, which allowed the floors above the impact zone to fall onto the undamaged structure below. As the collapse progressed, dust and debris could be seen shooting out of the windows several floors below the advancing destruction, caused by the sudden rush of air from the upper levels. The first fragments of the outer walls of the collapsed North Tower struck the ground 11 seconds after the collapse started, and parts of the South Tower after 9 seconds. The lower portions of both buildings' cores (60 stories of WTC 1 and 40 stories of WTC 2) remained standing for up to 25 seconds after the start of the initial collapse before they too collapsed.[44]


A progressive collapse? Does that look like a progressive collapse?

The only way such a collapse could occur is that the the lower columns were destroyed in a cascading downward path. Allowing the ejected falling material to hit the ground just 1 second before rest of the collapse.

In other words there was very little resistance to the collapse through the center of the building. The collapse should have stopped or slowed when the disintegrated upper floors hit the undamaged lower floors.

Just logic and Newtonian physics that you seem unaware of.



I'm sorry, no evidence just conjecture here. Come back with evidence.
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Reply #98 - Dec 20th, 2018 at 5:01pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 20th, 2018 at 12:44pm:
Richdude wrote on Dec 20th, 2018 at 12:42pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 20th, 2018 at 12:40pm:
I mark 1st year essays with better referencing than most of the idiots on here.


Thats because you are high on drugs.




Let me repeat this one more time. If that report was on BBC it should be easy for you to find and quote here.


This is why I like longweekend58 don't believe you have a PhD. You seemingly have no idea of the requirement to provide evidence for statements you make.


Agreed. Having worked with dozens of PhDs You can tell them apart by their rigour. They dont accept crap because it is said, but because there is evidence to support it.

I think it is noteworthy that ALL 9/11 conspiracists are not just believers in this one conspiracy. They add dozens of others to the list as well. Sandy Hook, Moon Landing, Flat Earth etc.

9/11 'truthers' is the most ironic label yet, since 'truth' is the one thing they dont want. They are extreme examples of confirmation bias and they believe in anything that agrees with their limited IQ, education and poor mental health.

RichDud is certainly not a PhD nor a uni graduate. After all, he is a Trump supporter and what are the chances of a real trump supporter having a decent education, nevermind a higher one.
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Reply #99 - Dec 20th, 2018 at 5:12pm
 
There is a pdf on the net where all the top private industry demolition companies did a combined analysis and they could not support a controlled demolition.

I can't be assed finding it again and it wouldn't change anyone's views anyway.
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Reply #100 - Dec 20th, 2018 at 8:56pm
 
You 2 are never going to change your minds - despite the evidence. Your souls are are totally invested in your beliefs. Of course passenger aircraft can disappear completely - nothing to see here.

Architects and Engineers for 9/11 truth

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I have known from day one that the buildings were imploded and could not have collapsed from the damage caused by the airplanes.”

ROLAND ANGLE, C.E.
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"The official explanation of the failures defies known scientific methods of analysis and is untenable in the face of logical investigation."

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“There is little doubt that the collapses were caused by controlled demolitions and the aircraft impacts were causal ruses.”


Near Free Fall Acceleration

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Reply #101 - Dec 20th, 2018 at 8:58pm
 
Richdude wrote on Dec 20th, 2018 at 8:56pm:
You 2 are never going to change your minds - despite the evidence.


What evidence?

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Reply #102 - Dec 20th, 2018 at 9:09pm
 
  There is a rule in the media. That when an event such as 9/11 happens the media can only present "official" material for "National Security" purposes. This is why the early accounts of 9/11 included reports of bombs and demolition. Witnessed by the BBC report that Building 7 had collapsed even though it hadn't . The reporter hadn't allowed for the time difference between London and NY. SCRIPTED NEWS!

Hard to know how much of the 9/11 narrative was scripted.
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Reply #103 - Dec 20th, 2018 at 9:10pm
 
Term Dog wrote on Dec 20th, 2018 at 5:12pm:
There is a pdf on the net where all the top private industry demolition companies did a combined analysis and they could not support a controlled demolition.

I can't be assed finding it again and it wouldn't change anyone's views anyway.


That would be Brent Blanchard from implosionworld, they held several world records for explosive demolition they say 9/11 had nothing in common with a controlled demolition.

http://www.implosionworld.com/Article-WTC%20STUDY%208-06%20w%20clarif%20as%20of%...

Those who hold world records for explosive demolitions say 9/11 had nothing in common with controlled demolition
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Reply #104 - Dec 20th, 2018 at 9:15pm
 
Term Dog wrote on Dec 20th, 2018 at 5:12pm:
There is a pdf on the net where all the top private industry demolition companies did a combined analysis and they could not support a controlled demolition.

I can't be assed finding it again and it wouldn't change anyone's views anyway.

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Reply #105 - Dec 20th, 2018 at 9:18pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 20th, 2018 at 8:58pm:
Richdude wrote on Dec 20th, 2018 at 8:56pm:
You 2 are never going to change your minds - despite the evidence.


What evidence?


Oh, you know...

Term Dog wrote on Dec 20th, 2018 at 5:12pm:
I can't be assed finding it again and it wouldn't change anyone's views anyway.
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Reply #106 - Dec 20th, 2018 at 9:42pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 20th, 2018 at 8:58pm:
Richdude wrote on Dec 20th, 2018 at 8:56pm:
You 2 are never going to change your minds - despite the evidence.


What evidence?



The official narrative - 19 Arabs armed with box cutters hijacked 4 aircraft - all conducted by a man living in a cave on the other side of the World.

That is a conspiracy theory without any real evidence. Oh yes, there is a passport and the flight lessons in Florida seems plausible but the rest....... The fact that there were hijacking drills carried out that very morning. Coincidence?

3 steel framed buildings collapsed primarily from fire that day - never happened before or since. Twin towers collapsed almost exactly the same way - turning to dust mid air.

So where is your evidence troll?

You're gullible aren't you!.
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