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Dec 3rd, 2018 at 11:48pm
 
“Say, what’s in this drink?” and “I simply must go,” followed by the woman singing “The answer is no.”

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The holiday classic “Baby It’s Cold Outside” has been removed from an Ohio radio station’s playlist.

Star 102 Cleveland said that the song’s lyrics may not be appropriate, especially in light of the #MeToo movement, WOIO reported.

The song, written in 1944, includes lines normally sung by a woman including “Say, what’s in this drink?” and “I simply must go,” followed by the woman singing “The answer is no.”

Before making the decision, the radio station hosts asked listeners their thoughts on “Baby It’s Cold Outside.” The DJs said listeners agreed that the song should be pulled, WJW reported.

“People might say, ‘Oh, enough with that #MeToo,’ but if you really put that aside and listen to the lyrics, it’s not something I would want my daughter to be in that kind of situation. The tune might be catchy, but let’s maybe not promote that sort of an idea,” Star 102’s midday host Desiray told WJW.

This isn’t the first time the song has come under fire.

According to Snopes, the song has been called a “date-rape anthem.” In 2017, USA Today ran a story, that in light of allegations of sexual abuse, suggested the song should be retired.  The newspaper said the song was written by the same man who composed “Guys and Dolls,” Frank Loesser, with the male part of the song labeled the “wolf” and the female’s lyrics labeled “mouse.”



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Reply #1 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 6:09am
 
just another excuse to SUE someone....

maybe Amerika is trying to get back to the days of the Puritans...who knows.....you guys go from one extreme to the other......its just happening faster today....

being the PORN CAPITAL of the world this is almost amusing. Roll Eyes
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Reply #2 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 6:48am
 
Have you listened to any modern rap or R&B, it's audio porn degrading women. But it's ok when Black people do it.
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Reply #3 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 7:06am
 
Term Dog wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 6:48am:
Have you listened to any modern rap or R&B, it's audio porn degrading women. But it's ok when Black people do it.



nah dont listen.....everything is ok if your black...and most of whats sicko comes out of Amerika....and then they turn on the Puritan act.. Sad Sad
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Reply #4 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 7:16am
 
Nobody is being sued they are just taking it off the playlist

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Reply #5 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 7:22am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 7:16am:
Nobody is being sued they are just taking it off the playlist

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Reply #6 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 7:23am
 
cods wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 6:09am:
just another excuse to SUE someone....

maybe Amerika is trying to get back to the days of the Puritans...who knows.....you guys go from one extreme to the other......its just happening faster today....

being the PORN CAPITAL of the world this is almost amusing. Roll Eyes   


I thought Canberra was the porn capital.

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Reply #7 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 7:28am
 
just Fyshwick in case your interested....it caters to all groups..
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Reply #8 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 8:23am
 
If it was written in 44 and I've never heard of it, it's probably time they pulled it.

How about Sublime's "date rape"?
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Some good evidence of historical toxic masculinity.
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Reply #10 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 9:35am
 
AiA wrote on Dec 3rd, 2018 at 11:48pm:
According to Snopes, the song has been called a “date-rape anthem.”




That alone was started by feminist Anita Sarkeesian. Give credit where it is due, god damn it.  I used to agree with her on a lot of issues but recently, she has lost her god damn mind.

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Reply #11 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 9:40am
 
This is a good break down of what the song is about ... it's definitely not rapey.

http://persephonemagazine.com/2010/12/listening-while-feminist-in-defense-of-bab...

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Reply #12 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 9:44am
 
freediver wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 8:23am:
If it was written in 44 and I've never heard of it, it's probably time they pulled it.

How about Sublime's "date rape"?


Never heard of it - seriously?





Recognise the first guy singing?

"Welcome, to Fantasy Island!"

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Reply #13 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 9:46am
 
freediver wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 8:23am:
If it was written in 44 and I've never heard of it, it's probably time they pulled it.

How about Sublime's "date rape"?


The song Date Rape is absolutely anti-date rape.

The last verses of the song:


The next day she went to her drawer, look up her local attorney at law
Went to the phone and filed the police report and then she took the guy's ass to court
Well, the day he stood in front of the judge he screamed, "she lies that little slut!"
The judge knew that he was full of poo and he gave him twenty five years
And now his eyes are filled wit tears
One night in jail it was getting late
He was butt-raped by a large inmate, and he screamed
But the guards paid no attention to his cries

That's when things got out of control
The moral of the date rape story, it does not pay to be drunk and horny
But that's the way it had to be
They locked him up and threw away the key
Well, I can't take pity on men of his kind
Even though he now takes it in the behind

But that's the way it had to be
They locked him up and threw away the key
Well, I can't take pity on men of his kind
Even though he now takes it in the behind
Date rape!

She didn't want to, she didn't want to, she didn't want to, she didn't want to
Take it!
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Reply #14 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 9:51am
 

Well, if it is rapey, would this be Donald Trump's favourite version?


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greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 9:44am:
freediver wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 8:23am:
If it was written in 44 and I've never heard of it, it's probably time they pulled it.

How about Sublime's "date rape"?


Never heard of it - seriously?





Recognise the first guy singing?

"Welcome, to Fantasy Island!"



At first I thought it might be Desi Arnaz  Smiley
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Reply #16 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 10:09am
 
AiA wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 9:56am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 9:44am:
freediver wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 8:23am:
If it was written in 44 and I've never heard of it, it's probably time they pulled it.

How about Sublime's "date rape"?


Never heard of it - seriously?





Recognise the first guy singing?

"Welcome, to Fantasy Island!"



At first I thought it might be Desi Arnaz  Smiley


Nope.

It's Ricardo Montalban   Smiley


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Reply #17 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 10:10am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 9:51am:
Well, if it is rapey, would this be Donald Trump's favourite version?





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greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 10:10am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 9:51am:
Well, if it is rapey, would this be Donald Trump's favourite version?





Undecided


Trump was reportedly a predator of pre-teens in the 80s and 90s. He is probably waiting until that girl has her first period, at least.
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Reply #19 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 10:37am
 
You want a raunchy old song?

How about Rum and Coca-cola?



If you ever go down Trinidad
They make you feel so very glad
Calypso sing and make up rhyme
Guarantee you one real good fine time

Drinkin' rum and Coca-Cola
Go down Point Koomahnah
Both mother and daughter
Workin' for the Yankee dollar

Oh, beat it man, beat it

Since the Yankee come to Trinidad
They got the young girls all goin' mad
Young girls say they treat 'em nice
Make Trinidad like paradise

Drinkin' rum and Coca-Cola
Go down Point Koomahnah
Both mother and daughter
Workin' for the Yankee dollar

Oh, you vex me, you vex me

From Chicachicaree to Mona's Isle
Native girls all dance and smile
Help soldier celebrate his leave
Make every day like New Year's Eve

Drinkin' rum and Coca-Cola
Go down Point Koomahnah
Both mother and daughter
Workin' for the Yankee dollar

It's a fact, man, it's a fact

In old Trinidad, I also fear
The situation is mighty queer
Like the Yankee girl, the native swoon
When she hear der Bingo croon

Drinkin' rum and Coca-Cola
Go down Point Koomahnah
Both mother and daughter
Workin' for the Yankee dollar

Out on Manzanella Beach
G. I. Romance with native peach
All night long, make tropic love
Next day, sit in hot sun and cool off

Drinkin' rum and Coca-Cola
Go down Point Koomahnah
Both mother and daughter
Workin' for the Yankee dollar

It's a fact, man, it's a fact

Rum and Coca-Cola
Rum and Coca-Cola
Workin' for the Yankee dollar

Songwriters: AL STILLMAN, JERI SULLAVAN, MOREY AMSTERDAM, PAUL BARON


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Both mother and daughter
Workin' for the Yankee dollar


Grin


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Reply #23 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 10:57am
 
"All I want to do is take off my pants for you!"

"All I want to do is eat your dessert!"

"All I want to do is take off my shirt for you!"

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Reply #24 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 12:27pm
 
fezz wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 9:46am:
freediver wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 8:23am:
If it was written in 44 and I've never heard of it, it's probably time they pulled it.

How about Sublime's "date rape"?


The song Date Rape is absolutely anti-date rape.

The last verses of the song:


The next day she went to her drawer, look up her local attorney at law
Went to the phone and filed the police report and then she took the guy's ass to court
Well, the day he stood in front of the judge he screamed, "she lies that little slut!"
The judge knew that he was full of poo and he gave him twenty five years
And now his eyes are filled wit tears
One night in jail it was getting late
He was butt-raped by a large inmate, and he screamed
But the guards paid no attention to his cries

That's when things got out of control
The moral of the date rape story, it does not pay to be drunk and horny
But that's the way it had to be
They locked him up and threw away the key
Well, I can't take pity on men of his kind
Even though he now takes it in the behind

But that's the way it had to be
They locked him up and threw away the key
Well, I can't take pity on men of his kind
Even though he now takes it in the behind
Date rape!

She didn't want to, she didn't want to, she didn't want to, she didn't want to
Take it!


You left out a few lines.
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Reply #25 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 1:06pm
 
freediver wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 12:27pm:
fezz wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 9:46am:
freediver wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 8:23am:
If it was written in 44 and I've never heard of it, it's probably time they pulled it.

How about Sublime's "date rape"?


The song Date Rape is absolutely anti-date rape.

The last verses of the song:


The next day she went to her drawer, look up her local attorney at law
Went to the phone and filed the police report and then she took the guy's ass to court
Well, the day he stood in front of the judge he screamed, "she lies that little slut!"
The judge knew that he was full of poo and he gave him twenty five years
And now his eyes are filled wit tears
One night in jail it was getting late
He was butt-raped by a large inmate, and he screamed
But the guards paid no attention to his cries

That's when things got out of control
The moral of the date rape story, it does not pay to be drunk and horny
But that's the way it had to be
They locked him up and threw away the key
Well, I can't take pity on men of his kind
Even though he now takes it in the behind

But that's the way it had to be
They locked him up and threw away the key
Well, I can't take pity on men of his kind
Even though he now takes it in the behind
Date rape!

She didn't want to, she didn't want to, she didn't want to, she didn't want to
Take it!


You left out a few lines.


And .... what's your point? The song in question in the OP and Date Rape are entirely different ... One is set in a time of a single woman's sexual agency frowned by society, Date Rape is about an ahole taking advantage of a woman's sexual agency.

The verses I listed were the crux of the song, it certainly doesn't condone date rape although it does raise the question of male rape in prison in an indirect fashion.

Entire lyrics for Date Rape for those who want to read the whole thing.
https://genius.com/Sublime-date-rape-lyrics

The use of alcohol as a term of reference are on the opposet end of the scale too.

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Reply #26 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 1:38pm
 
"I'm gonna tap on your window.
Ring your bell... until you do"
"Tap & ring... until you do."

I can't remember the Song title or the whole lot, but it sure did sound like a persistent Stalker theme of an old song.

Even an old Western song about him no longer being her Sugar Daddy (he calls her his 'little girl' in the song) seemed to be the go back then.

I don't know if Trump was ever a sexual predator.
He was obviously a 'Sherminator' as a young fella and probably only got lucky with gold-digging sluts anyway.

Anyone for some NWA "Just suck my dick biatch!" ?
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Reply #27 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 1:41pm
 
Jasin wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 1:38pm:
"I'm gonna tap on your window.
Ring your bell... until you do"
"Tap & ring... until you do."

I can't remember the Song title or the whole lot, but it sure did sound like a persistent Stalker theme of an old song.

Even an old Western song about him no longer being her Sugar Daddy (he calls her his 'little girl' in the song) seemed to be the go back then.

I don't know if Trump was ever a sexual predator.
He was obviously a 'Sherminator' as a young fella and probably only got lucky with gold-digging sluts anyway.

Anyone for some NWA "Just suck my dick biatch!" ?



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Reply #28 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 1:42pm
 
Jasin wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 1:38pm:
"I'm gonna tap on your window.
Ring your bell... until you do"
"Tap & ring... until you do."

I can't remember the Song title or the whole lot, but it sure did sound like a persistent Stalker theme of an old song.

Even an old Western song about him no longer being her Sugar Daddy (he calls her his 'little girl' in the song) seemed to be the go back then.

I don't know if Trump was ever a sexual predator.
He was obviously a 'Sherminator' as a young fella and probably only got lucky with gold-digging sluts anyway.

Anyone for some NWA "Just suck my dick biatch!" ?


The Salvos used that song to promote their winter appeal.
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Reply #29 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 1:44pm
 
Aussie wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 1:41pm:
Jasin wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 1:38pm:
"I'm gonna tap on your window.
Ring your bell... until you do"
"Tap & ring... until you do."

I can't remember the Song title or the whole lot, but it sure did sound like a persistent Stalker theme of an old song.

Even an old Western song about him no longer being her Sugar Daddy (he calls her his 'little girl' in the song) seemed to be the go back then.

I don't know if Trump was ever a sexual predator.
He was obviously a 'Sherminator' as a young fella and probably only got lucky with gold-digging sluts anyway.

Anyone for some NWA "Just suck my dick biatch!" ?





Jesus, that's a horrible version.

Who was that guy?

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Reply #30 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 1:45pm
 
The real reason it was dropped? it ain't cold outside any more. Wink
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Reply #31 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 1:48pm
 
Here's a good song with dodgy lyrics.


When I see my little cousin Janine walk in
All I could say was ow ow ouch
Honey how you've grown
Like a rose
Well we used to play
When we were three
How about a kiss for your cousin Dupree

On Saturday night she walked in with her date
And backs him up against the wall
I tumbled off the couch and heard myself sing
In a voice I never knew I had before

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I think its ironic they ban some old song,
but allow Radio stations to pump out the usual 'Pimp' music that has ruled the airways since 2000
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Reply #33 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 1:55pm
 
Jasin wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 1:52pm:
I think its ironic they ban some old song,
but allow Radio stations to pump out the usual 'Pimp' music that has ruled the airways since 2000


Google search 'worst rape lyrics' and you get

Including results for "worst rap lyrics"
Search only for "worst rape lyrics"
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Reply #34 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 7:10pm
 
fezz wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 1:06pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 12:27pm:
fezz wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 9:46am:
freediver wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 8:23am:
If it was written in 44 and I've never heard of it, it's probably time they pulled it.

How about Sublime's "date rape"?


The song Date Rape is absolutely anti-date rape.

The last verses of the song:


The next day she went to her drawer, look up her local attorney at law
Went to the phone and filed the police report and then she took the guy's ass to court
Well, the day he stood in front of the judge he screamed, "she lies that little slut!"
The judge knew that he was full of poo and he gave him twenty five years
And now his eyes are filled wit tears
One night in jail it was getting late
He was butt-raped by a large inmate, and he screamed
But the guards paid no attention to his cries

That's when things got out of control
The moral of the date rape story, it does not pay to be drunk and horny
But that's the way it had to be
They locked him up and threw away the key
Well, I can't take pity on men of his kind
Even though he now takes it in the behind

But that's the way it had to be
They locked him up and threw away the key
Well, I can't take pity on men of his kind
Even though he now takes it in the behind
Date rape!

She didn't want to, she didn't want to, she didn't want to, she didn't want to
Take it!


You left out a few lines.


And .... what's your point? The song in question in the OP and Date Rape are entirely different ... One is set in a time of a single woman's sexual agency frowned by society, Date Rape is about an ahole taking advantage of a woman's sexual agency.

The verses I listed were the crux of the song, it certainly doesn't condone date rape although it does raise the question of male rape in prison in an indirect fashion.

Entire lyrics for Date Rape for those who want to read the whole thing.
https://genius.com/Sublime-date-rape-lyrics

The use of alcohol as a term of reference are on the opposet end of the scale too.



Raises it? It that a euphemism for celebrating the bloke getting raped in the date?

"Come on babe it's your lucky day
Shut your mouth, we're gonna do it my way
Come on baby don't be afraid
If it wasn't for date rape I'd never get laid"
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Reply #35 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 8:24pm
 
freediver wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 7:10pm:
fezz wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 1:06pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 12:27pm:
fezz wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 9:46am:
freediver wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 8:23am:
If it was written in 44 and I've never heard of it, it's probably time they pulled it.

How about Sublime's "date rape"?


The song Date Rape is absolutely anti-date rape.

The last verses of the song:


The next day she went to her drawer, look up her local attorney at law
Went to the phone and filed the police report and then she took the guy's ass to court
Well, the day he stood in front of the judge he screamed, "she lies that little slut!"
The judge knew that he was full of poo and he gave him twenty five years
And now his eyes are filled wit tears
One night in jail it was getting late
He was butt-raped by a large inmate, and he screamed
But the guards paid no attention to his cries

That's when things got out of control
The moral of the date rape story, it does not pay to be drunk and horny
But that's the way it had to be
They locked him up and threw away the key
Well, I can't take pity on men of his kind
Even though he now takes it in the behind

But that's the way it had to be
They locked him up and threw away the key
Well, I can't take pity on men of his kind
Even though he now takes it in the behind
Date rape!

She didn't want to, she didn't want to, she didn't want to, she didn't want to
Take it!


You left out a few lines.


And .... what's your point? The song in question in the OP and Date Rape are entirely different ... One is set in a time of a single woman's sexual agency frowned by society, Date Rape is about an ahole taking advantage of a woman's sexual agency.

The verses I listed were the crux of the song, it certainly doesn't condone date rape although it does raise the question of male rape in prison in an indirect fashion.

Entire lyrics for Date Rape for those who want to read the whole thing.
https://genius.com/Sublime-date-rape-lyrics

The use of alcohol as a term of reference are on the opposet end of the scale too.



Raises it? It that a euphemism for celebrating the bloke getting raped in the date?

"Come on babe it's your lucky day
Shut your mouth, we're gonna do it my way
Come on baby don't be afraid
If it wasn't for date rape I'd never get laid"


I didn't know Donald Trump was a songwriter.

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Reply #36 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 9:08pm
 
freediver wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 7:10pm:
fezz wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 1:06pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 12:27pm:
fezz wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 9:46am:
freediver wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 8:23am:
If it was written in 44 and I've never heard of it, it's probably time they pulled it.

How about Sublime's "date rape"?


The song Date Rape is absolutely anti-date rape.

The last verses of the song:


The next day she went to her drawer, look up her local attorney at law
Went to the phone and filed the police report and then she took the guy's ass to court
Well, the day he stood in front of the judge he screamed, "she lies that little slut!"
The judge knew that he was full of poo and he gave him twenty five years
And now his eyes are filled wit tears
One night in jail it was getting late
He was butt-raped by a large inmate, and he screamed
But the guards paid no attention to his cries

That's when things got out of control
The moral of the date rape story, it does not pay to be drunk and horny
But that's the way it had to be
They locked him up and threw away the key
Well, I can't take pity on men of his kind
Even though he now takes it in the behind

But that's the way it had to be
They locked him up and threw away the key
Well, I can't take pity on men of his kind
Even though he now takes it in the behind
Date rape!

She didn't want to, she didn't want to, she didn't want to, she didn't want to
Take it!


You left out a few lines.


And .... what's your point? The song in question in the OP and Date Rape are entirely different ... One is set in a time of a single woman's sexual agency frowned by society, Date Rape is about an ahole taking advantage of a woman's sexual agency.

The verses I listed were the crux of the song, it certainly doesn't condone date rape although it does raise the question of male rape in prison in an indirect fashion.

Entire lyrics for Date Rape for those who want to read the whole thing.
https://genius.com/Sublime-date-rape-lyrics

The use of alcohol as a term of reference are on the opposet end of the scale too.



Raises it? It that a euphemism for celebrating the bloke getting raped in the date?

"Come on babe it's your lucky day
Shut your mouth, we're gonna do it my way
Come on baby don't be afraid
If it wasn't for date rape I'd never get laid"


Euphemism ... you said it not me.

You can't take four lines out of context and give them a whole new meaning ... what's written before and after are just as important as those four. 

From the first time I heard that song near on 30 years ago it was totally obvious that this song is about the evil of date rape, not glorifying it.
You're the first person I've come across that thinks otherwise in that entire time ... puts you on the far end of the bell curve, not the greatest place to be on this particular subject.




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You can't take four lines out of context


But you can take them out of your quote of the lyrics.
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freediver wrote on Dec 6th, 2018 at 7:40pm:
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You can't take four lines out of context


But you can take them out of your quote of the lyrics.


As I quite openly stated when posting the last verses of the sing ... the crux of of the story.
The lyrics are easy to find on the net and I figured instead of filling the post with the whole song I'd put the crux of the song in but you of course had to put your own spin on it.

Ive rectified that with a link to the entire lyrics and you still cant get over it.
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Do you agree that the song celebrates the bloke getting raped in the date?
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freediver wrote on Dec 7th, 2018 at 12:29pm:
Do you agree that the song celebrates the bloke getting raped in the date?


I wouldn't say celebrates it however shows the double standard between how male on female rape is viewed compared to male on male prison rape.

It tells of how there's no pity for the rapist going to jail but it's OK for eye for an eye extra judicial justice ... even though he now takes it in the behind, society's quick dismissal of prison rape.


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AiA wrote on Dec 3rd, 2018 at 11:48pm:
“Say, what’s in this drink?” and “I simply must go,” followed by the woman singing “The answer is no.”

Thoughts?

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The holiday classic “Baby It’s Cold Outside” has been removed from an Ohio radio station’s playlist.

Star 102 Cleveland said that the song’s lyrics may not be appropriate, especially in light of the #MeToo movement, WOIO reported.

The song, written in 1944, includes lines normally sung by a woman including “Say, what’s in this drink?” and “I simply must go,” followed by the woman singing “The answer is no.”

Before making the decision, the radio station hosts asked listeners their thoughts on “Baby It’s Cold Outside.” The DJs said listeners agreed that the song should be pulled, WJW reported.

“People might say, ‘Oh, enough with that #MeToo,’ but if you really put that aside and listen to the lyrics, it’s not something I would want my daughter to be in that kind of situation. The tune might be catchy, but let’s maybe not promote that sort of an idea,” Star 102’s midday host Desiray told WJW.

This isn’t the first time the song has come under fire.

According to Snopes, the song has been called a “date-rape anthem.” In 2017, USA Today ran a story, that in light of allegations of sexual abuse, suggested the song should be retired.  The newspaper said the song was written by the same man who composed “Guys and Dolls,” Frank Loesser, with the male part of the song labeled the “wolf” and the female’s lyrics labeled “mouse.”



https://www.wsbtv.com/news/trending-now/baby-its-cold-outside-removed-from-radio...




Those weren't the days when a man would try to get a woman
to stay at his place in the hope of getting some pussy that night.

People had morals then.
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Reply #42 - Dec 11th, 2018 at 5:13am
 
So
Let me get this right.

A bloke must take a woman on a date and watch what she drinks to ensure that she does not over indulge, thereby compromising her ability to clearly state that she is willing?

Additionally, he must get a letter of agreement, signed and dated, in triplicate and lodged in front of a JP to ensure that the is in no way being coerced.

Finally, at various stages of the .......encounter......he must obtain on going verbal confirmation of continued willingness on the part of the female.

This is the only means by which a male can assure some semblance of non- litigation.

On the woman's side, she can drink herself under the table,

Give the man the come on

Go home with him and climb into his bed

Have rampant mutually enjoyable sex

And then have second thoughts the next day and sue his arse off.

Perhaps, just perhaps
It should read like this

YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOURSELF.

If you don't want sex, don't get drunk
If you don't want sex, don't go to his house, motel room etc
If you don't want sex, don't hang all over him giving him all the signals that you want sex.

If it's forced....it's rape
If drugs are used, without the girls knowledge.....it's rape
If it's in his car, van etc and not with her willing participation......it's rape
If there is violence.....it's rape

The laws are becoming so blurred, so easily manipulated, that men are now targets for any shelas who feels unhappy.
He might have dumped her
He might not have decided to continue
He may have found someone else

So she goes for it

He'll, she might just be after the money.

These bullshite rape claims are doing a disservice to women who are truly being raped.
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Reply #43 - Dec 11th, 2018 at 5:54am
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 8th, 2018 at 5:56pm:
Those weren't the days when a man would try to get a woman
to stay at his place in the hope of getting some pussy that night.

People had morals then.


That is BS, Bobby. People liked fəking as much then as they do now; they were just more circumspect about it, that's all.
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Reply #44 - Dec 11th, 2018 at 6:49am
 
Valkie wrote on Dec 11th, 2018 at 5:13am:
So
Let me get this right.

A bloke must take a woman on a date and watch what she drinks to ensure that she does not over indulge, thereby compromising her ability to clearly state that she is willing?

Additionally, he must get a letter of agreement, signed and dated, in triplicate and lodged in front of a JP to ensure that the is in no way being coerced.

Finally, at various stages of the .......encounter......he must obtain on going verbal confirmation of continued willingness on the part of the female.

This is the only means by which a male can assure some semblance of non- litigation.

On the woman's side, she can drink herself under the table,

Give the man the come on

Go home with him and climb into his bed

Have rampant mutually enjoyable sex

And then have second thoughts the next day and sue his arse off.

Perhaps, just perhaps
It should read like this

YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOURSELF.

If you don't want sex, don't get drunk
If you don't want sex, don't go to his house, motel room etc
If you don't want sex, don't hang all over him giving him all the signals that you want sex.

If it's forced....it's rape
If drugs are used, without the girls knowledge.....it's rape
If it's in his car, van etc and not with her willing participation......it's rape
If there is violence.....it's rape

The laws are becoming so blurred, so easily manipulated, that men are now targets for any shelas who feels unhappy.
He might have dumped her
He might not have decided to continue
He may have found someone else

So she goes for it


He'll, she might just be after the money.

These bullshite rape claims are doing a disservice to women who are truly being raped.


An ex, after many months of the most vile abuse after we separated, which I NEVER responded to, dropped the false bomb to my family members, friends and police that I was "downloading and disseminating child pornography".

That was met with immediate heavy legal action for such blatant lies but the legacy left still haunts me to this day ... that is an evil accusation that stays for life even though it was made entirely through the vengence of a spurned woman.

The maddening part to all this is nothing happened to her, not even a slap on the wrist worth of fines for a false statement to the cops apart from being verballed by them not to do it again!
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Reply #45 - Dec 11th, 2018 at 10:34am
 
Sexual innuendo can be found anywhere if you look hard enough. Take the children's series "In the night garden". One of the main characters Upsy Daisy regularly lifts up her skirt. The same character is regularly chased by a bed that wants her to sleep in him.

I highly recommend watching the show if you've taken LSD or any psychoactive substance.
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Reply #46 - Dec 11th, 2018 at 11:41am
 
AiA wrote on Dec 11th, 2018 at 5:54am:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 8th, 2018 at 5:56pm:
Those weren't the days when a man would try to get a woman
to stay at his place in the hope of getting some pussy that night.

People had morals then.


That is BS, Bobby. People liked fəking as much then as they do now; they were just more circumspect about it, that's all.


You're talking about prudish, Christian America.
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Jasin wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 1:52pm:
I think its ironic they ban some old song,
but allow Radio stations to pump out the usual 'Pimp' music that has ruled the airways since 2000

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TheFunPolice wrote on Dec 11th, 2018 at 2:41pm:
Jasin wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 1:52pm:
I think its ironic they ban some old song,
but allow Radio stations to pump out the usual 'Pimp' music that has ruled the airways since 2000

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Maybe they should ban this one, for causing all the confusion:


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fezz wrote on Dec 8th, 2018 at 3:28pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 7th, 2018 at 12:29pm:
Do you agree that the song celebrates the bloke getting raped in the date?


I wouldn't say celebrates it
however shows the double standard between how male on female rape is viewed compared to male on male prison rape.

It tells of how there's no pity for the rapist going to jail but it's OK for eye for an eye extra judicial justice ... even though he now takes it in the behind, society's quick dismissal of prison rape.



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Reply #50 - Dec 11th, 2018 at 2:49pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11th, 2018 at 2:44pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Dec 11th, 2018 at 2:41pm:
Jasin wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 1:52pm:
I think its ironic they ban some old song,
but allow Radio stations to pump out the usual 'Pimp' music that has ruled the airways since 2000

HEAR HEAR: BUT IRONIC IS NOT THE WORD!


Maybe they should ban this one, for causing all the confusion:





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The holiday classic “Baby It’s Cold Outside” has been removed from an Ohio radio station’s playlist.

Star 102 Cleveland


So how has this become world wide news? A minor local station in the US removing it from it's playlist?

It's click bait
They know that the "political correctness gone mad" crowd love this stuff.
Conservative commentators and forum posters can get suitably outraged, and give the whole thing far more oxygen then it ever would have got normally.
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TheFunPolice wrote on Dec 11th, 2018 at 2:45pm:
fezz wrote on Dec 8th, 2018 at 3:28pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 7th, 2018 at 12:29pm:
Do you agree that the song celebrates the bloke getting raped in the date?


I wouldn't say celebrates it
however shows the double standard between how male on female rape is viewed compared to male on male prison rape.

It tells of how there's no pity for the rapist going to jail but it's OK for eye for an eye extra judicial justice ... even though he now takes it in the behind, society's quick dismissal of prison rape.



..BUT THE FACTS ARE IT DOES..................  Cheesy


Hollywood CRAP RAP IS NASTY AND VINDICTIVE STUFF ADVOCATING THAT TWO WRONG ACTUALLY DO MAKE A RIGHT!


Now you're getting into the world of self confessed micro aggression, safe spaces and personal offence when the original author meant nothing of the sort. Bradley Nowell, the writer of Date Rape expressly said he was against all forms of rape when questioned about the lyrics.
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