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What's the fallacy??
Dec 1^st, 2018 at 5:50pm

In statements like;

I am absolutely certain the future is uncertain.

It's absolutely true that there is no absolute truth.

The universe could have been created 1 second ago and with a built in history billions of years old.

If you think about no thoughts are you thinking about something.

Is there an infinite number of points between 0 and 1cm on a ruler 1cm long.

Is there a fact that can make another fact wrong.

Etc

Do these questions come under a topic I can study, I feel they are all the same question in different disguises.

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Jasin Gold Member Online Posts: 46369 Gender:	Re: What's the fallacy?? Reply #1 - Dec 1^st, 2018 at 6:08pm and the greatest of them all... "WE COME IN PEACE (SHOOT TO KILL)!"
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Re: What's the fallacy??
Reply #2 - Dec 1^st, 2018 at 6:17pm

Term Dog wrote on Dec 1^st, 2018 at 5:50pm:

In statements like;

I am absolutely certain the future is uncertain.

It's absolutely true that there is no absolute truth.

The universe could have been created 1 second ago and with a built in history billions of years old.

If you think about no thoughts are you thinking about something.

Is there an infinite number of points between 0 and 1cm on a ruler 1cm long.

Is there a fact that can make another fact wrong.

Etc

Do these questions come under a topic I can study, I feel they are all the same question in different disguises.

These points are word games.

I think Wittgenstein said something to the effect, "The object of philosophy is to protect the truth from language."

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No political allegiance. No philosophy. No religion.

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Jasin Gold Member Online Posts: 46369 Gender:	Re: What's the fallacy?? Reply #3 - Dec 1^st, 2018 at 6:45pm It's just duality. Middle-East Religion says "We come in peace" via the poor majority Middle-East Military says "Shoot to kill" via the rich minority There are 8 races of the world There are 8 regions of the world ...little wonder there are 8 right answers to a problem too
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Re: What's the fallacy??
Reply #4 - Dec 1^st, 2018 at 6:48pm

issuevoter wrote on Dec 1^st, 2018 at 6:17pm:

Term Dog wrote on Dec 1^st, 2018 at 5:50pm:

In statements like;

I am absolutely certain the future is uncertain.

It's absolutely true that there is no absolute truth.

The universe could have been created 1 second ago and with a built in history billions of years old.

If you think about no thoughts are you thinking about something.

Is there an infinite number of points between 0 and 1cm on a ruler 1cm long.

Is there a fact that can make another fact wrong.

Etc

Do these questions come under a topic I can study, I feel they are all the same question in different disguises.

These points are word games.

I think Wittgenstein said something to the effect, "The object of philosophy is to protect the truth from language."

But how is the fallacy exposed?

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Re: What's the fallacy??
Reply #5 - Dec 6^th, 2018 at 2:56pm

issuevoter wrote on Dec 1^st, 2018 at 6:17pm:

Term Dog wrote on Dec 1^st, 2018 at 5:50pm:

In statements like;

I am absolutely certain the future is uncertain.

It's absolutely true that there is no absolute truth.

The universe could have been created 1 second ago and with a built in history billions of years old.

If you think about no thoughts are you thinking about something.

Is there an infinite number of points between 0 and 1cm on a ruler 1cm long.

Is there a fact that can make another fact wrong.

Etc

Do these questions come under a topic I can study, I feel they are all the same question in different disguises.

These points are word games.

I think Wittgenstein said something to the effect, "The object of philosophy is to protect the truth from language."

That's a good one Cheesy

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Re: What's the fallacy??
Reply #6 - Dec 6^th, 2018 at 2:57pm

Term Dog wrote on Dec 1^st, 2018 at 6:48pm:

issuevoter wrote on Dec 1^st, 2018 at 6:17pm:

Term Dog wrote on Dec 1^st, 2018 at 5:50pm:

In statements like;

I am absolutely certain the future is uncertain.

It's absolutely true that there is no absolute truth.

The universe could have been created 1 second ago and with a built in history billions of years old.

If you think about no thoughts are you thinking about something.

Is there an infinite number of points between 0 and 1cm on a ruler 1cm long.

Is there a fact that can make another fact wrong.

Etc

Do these questions come under a topic I can study, I feel they are all the same question in different disguises.

These points are word games.

I think Wittgenstein said something to the effect, "The object of philosophy is to protect the truth from language."

But how is the fallacy exposed?

Does it have to be?

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Re: What's the fallacy??
Reply #7 - Dec 6^th, 2018 at 8:23pm

Term Dog wrote on Dec 1^st, 2018 at 5:50pm:

Is there an infinite number of points between 0 and 1cm on a ruler 1cm long.

This is also a scientific question.
The current theory is that space is "granular". At the quantum level it is made up of tiny divisions called the "planck length"
https://faculty.washington.edu/smcohen/320/GrainySpace.html

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The Right Wing only believe in free speech when they agree with what is being said.

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Re: What's the fallacy??
Reply #8 - Dec 6^th, 2018 at 8:28pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 6^th, 2018 at 8:23pm:

Term Dog wrote on Dec 1^st, 2018 at 5:50pm:

Is there an infinite number of points between 0 and 1cm on a ruler 1cm long.

This is also a scientific question.
The current theory is that space is "granular". At the quantum level it is made up of tiny divisions called the "planck length"
https://faculty.washington.edu/smcohen/320/GrainySpace.html

Pure speculation, barely even science.

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Re: What's the fallacy??
Reply #9 - Dec 6^th, 2018 at 8:43pm

Term Dog wrote on Dec 6^th, 2018 at 8:28pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 6^th, 2018 at 8:23pm:

Term Dog wrote on Dec 1^st, 2018 at 5:50pm:

Is there an infinite number of points between 0 and 1cm on a ruler 1cm long.

This is also a scientific question.
The current theory is that space is "granular". At the quantum level it is made up of tiny divisions called the "planck length"
https://faculty.washington.edu/smcohen/320/GrainySpace.html

Pure speculation, barely even science.

Sure it is speculative, but it is most definitely science.
It is an extension of quantum physics which is used to describe the behavior of elementary particles such as protons, neutrons and electrons.

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Re: What's the fallacy??
Reply #10 - Dec 6^th, 2018 at 8:53pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 6^th, 2018 at 8:43pm:

Term Dog wrote on Dec 6^th, 2018 at 8:28pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 6^th, 2018 at 8:23pm:

Term Dog wrote on Dec 1^st, 2018 at 5:50pm:

Is there an infinite number of points between 0 and 1cm on a ruler 1cm long.

This is also a scientific question.
The current theory is that space is "granular". At the quantum level it is made up of tiny divisions called the "planck length"
https://faculty.washington.edu/smcohen/320/GrainySpace.html

Pure speculation, barely even science.

Sure it is speculative, but it is most definitely science.
It is an extension of quantum physics which is used to describe the behavior of elementary particles such as protons, neutrons and electrons.

It's unfalsifiable therefore no different to making a supernatural claim and even worse an experiment can't even be designed in theory to test it, not now or in the future.

Really it's just a bunch of fancy mathematics.

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TheFunPolice Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9009 waggawagga Gender:	Re: What's the fallacy?? Reply #11 - Dec 6^th, 2018 at 8:55pm "Is there an infinite number of points between yada yadda yadda...": that is barely even a question bruv! A point is made up crap just like the concept of infinity: dope might be fun but it is not a smart drug lol!
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Re: What's the fallacy??
Reply #12 - Dec 6^th, 2018 at 9:00pm

Term Dog wrote on Dec 6^th, 2018 at 8:53pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 6^th, 2018 at 8:43pm:

Term Dog wrote on Dec 6^th, 2018 at 8:28pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 6^th, 2018 at 8:23pm:

Term Dog wrote on Dec 1^st, 2018 at 5:50pm:

Is there an infinite number of points between 0 and 1cm on a ruler 1cm long.

This is also a scientific question.
The current theory is that space is "granular". At the quantum level it is made up of tiny divisions called the "planck length"
https://faculty.washington.edu/smcohen/320/GrainySpace.html

Pure speculation, barely even science.

Sure it is speculative, but it is most definitely science.
It is an extension of quantum physics which is used to describe the behavior of elementary particles such as protons, neutrons and electrons.

It's unfalsifiable therefore no different to making a supernatural claim and even worse an experiment can't even be designed in theory to test it, not now or in the future.

Really it's just a bunch of fancy mathematics.

How is it unfalsifiable?

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Re: What's the fallacy??
Reply #13 - Dec 6^th, 2018 at 9:01pm

TheFunPolice wrote on Dec 6^th, 2018 at 8:55pm:

"Is there an infinite number of points between yada yadda yadda...": that is barely even a question bruv!

A point is made up crap just like the concept of infinity: dope might be fun but it is not a smart drug lol!

Grin

I would link you to Bolzano as a starting point but you would prolly just cry.

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Re: What's the fallacy??
Reply #14 - Dec 6^th, 2018 at 9:02pm

TheFunPolice wrote on Dec 6^th, 2018 at 9:00pm:

Term Dog wrote on Dec 6^th, 2018 at 8:53pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 6^th, 2018 at 8:43pm:

Term Dog wrote on Dec 6^th, 2018 at 8:28pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 6^th, 2018 at 8:23pm:

Term Dog wrote on Dec 1^st, 2018 at 5:50pm:

Is there an infinite number of points between 0 and 1cm on a ruler 1cm long.

This is also a scientific question.
The current theory is that space is "granular". At the quantum level it is made up of tiny divisions called the "planck length"
https://faculty.washington.edu/smcohen/320/GrainySpace.html

Pure speculation, barely even science.

Sure it is speculative, but it is most definitely science.
It is an extension of quantum physics which is used to describe the behavior of elementary particles such as protons, neutrons and electrons.

It's unfalsifiable therefore no different to making a supernatural claim and even worse an experiment can't even be designed in theory to test it, not now or in the future.

Really it's just a bunch of fancy mathematics.

How is it unfalsifiable?

Stick to policing fun, your out of your depth here.

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