freediver wrote on Jun 20
th, 2019 at 9:32pm:
We both agree that they are at best a minority Gandalf. The reason I bring this up, seeing as you have forgotten, is because you demanded I prove that the ones who support genocide are a majority. But you already accept that. You are asking me to prove something we both agree on.
Not sure why this is so complicated.
Its complicated by the fact that you are literally directly contradicting your own BS in the OP. Do you not comprehend that? Or did you actually mean to say "Most muslims support genocide" in the thread title?
freediver wrote on Jun 20
th, 2019 at 9:32pm:
Why is it unfathomable? You deny the genocide at the same time as supporting it. You went to some length to justify this position. Can you not fathom your own BS?
What is unfathomable is a) why my personal thoughts on this entirely non-religious matter somehow applies to every other muslim who denies the genocide - without even giving them the courtesy to come up with their own reasoning and b) the fact that my reasoning for "supporting" the hypothetical concept of mass execution for that specific crime is *ENTIRELY* separate from my Islamic religious beliefs, and was argued by me on entirely secular/non-religious grounds. The fact that I don't even believe Muhammad went through with it - and conceivably refused to because he was morally opposed to such an act because of his religion - demonstrates that my 'support' for it is in spite of my religious beliefs, not because of it.
freediver wrote on Jun 20
th, 2019 at 9:32pm:
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FD performs some mysterious and incomprehensible voodoo logic to conclude that because gandalf (apparently) still justifies genocide as a general principle, even though he doesn't himself believe Muhammad committed genocide, somehow that means all other genocide-deniers do the same.
This is your strawman Gandalf. I have asked you repeatedly to stop lying.
You literally just did it again FD. Here I'll even quote you again:
freediver wrote on Jun 20
th, 2019 at 9:32pm:
Why is it unfathomable? You deny the genocide at the same time as supporting it. You went to some length to justify this position.
- keeping in mind this quote was a direct response to why FD's only answer for why genocide deniers still support genocide is "because....gandalf". Here we have exactly that - yet another "because...gandalf" response, straight from the horses mouth.
Rather than hysterically screeching 'liar' like a broken record every time I point out the bleeding obvious, how about you have a go at actually justifying why referring to my alleged justification of genocide is relevant to your insistence that other, non-gandalf muslims who deny Muhammad's genocide must also support genocide? Is that too much to ask FD?
freediver wrote on Jun 20
th, 2019 at 9:32pm:
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I begged and begged him to come up with a coherent reason for this other than "because thats what gandalf did", but nothing.
Keep begging Gandalf, it won't make any difference.
I agree. 26 pages, and you have refused to come up with any argument about why genocide deniers must still support genocide thats not "because... gandalf", so I guess there's no reason to think the next 26 pages would be any different.