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Re: All Muslims support genocide
Reply #120 - Dec 22^nd, 2018 at 2:09pm

I am implying that jihadists are only following islam / qur'an when they commit unspeakably depraved crimes against the unbeliever and hypocrite believers.

I am implying that *moderates* give passive support to these degenerate islamic activities, when they refuse to criticize and purge the evil in the qur'an which causes and motivates the islamic jihadists' malefic deeds.

I am implying that sick leftards also support this islamic putrefaction by their never ending refusal to condemn islam for what it is, (a death cult).

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Reply #122 - Dec 24^th, 2018 at 8:40am

freediver wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2018 at 9:04am:

Can you explain what you consider to be acceptable or legitimate criticism of Islam?

Its not rocket science, criticise the ideology and any individuals who specifically adhere to that ideology - without making blanket slurs that demonize an entire population.

case in point:
- "the belief that genocide is awesome - is repugnant and should be condemned. Furthermore, I condemn any muslim who holds such beliefs." - gets the gandalf tick of approval

- "all muslims support genocide" - is bigoted, racist, not to mention utterly baseless, rubbish.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #123 - Dec 24^th, 2018 at 9:19am

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 24^th, 2018 at 8:40am:

freediver wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2018 at 9:04am:

Can you explain what you consider to be acceptable or legitimate criticism of Islam?

Its not rocket science, criticise the ideology and any individuals who specifically adhere to that ideology - without making blanket slurs that demonize an entire population.

case in point:
- "the belief that genocide is awesome - is repugnant and should be condemned. Furthermore, I condemn any muslim who holds such beliefs." - gets the gandalf tick of approval

- "all muslims support genocide" - is bigoted, racist, not to mention utterly baseless, rubbish.

How is it wacist Gandalf?

Also, other than you spending 12 pages dodging the basis for the claim, how is it baseless? Have you not yet read the opening post?

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Reply #124 - Dec 24^th, 2018 at 10:25am

freediver wrote on Dec 24^th, 2018 at 9:19am:

Also, other than you spending 12 pages dodging the basis for the claim, how is it baseless?

most muslims don't support genocide. Insisting that the proof of this claim is reference to an alleged massacre by Muhammad of an unknown number of military aged males of a tiny tribe in the 7th century who are believed to have violated a treaty and initiated war against him - is the most facile attempt at logic you're likely to ever come across.

Using your tired old strategy of resorting to yet another 'reductio ad Hitlerum' to prop up your case, while none-to-subtly equating "all muslims" (every man woman and child) to genocidal nazis, just breaks the scales of stupid.

Would you like me to spend another 12 pages ramming that point home again?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #125 - Dec 24^th, 2018 at 10:27am

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most muslims don't support genocide. Insisting that the proof of this claim is reference to an alleged massacre by Muhammad of an unknown number of military aged males of a tiny tribe in the 7th century who are believed to have violated a treaty and initiated war against him - is the most facile attempt at logic you're likely to ever come across

So you are arguing that a massacre of Jews that even you support does not count as a "base" for an accusation that all Muslims support genocide?

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Reply #126 - Dec 24^th, 2018 at 10:36am

freediver wrote on Dec 24^th, 2018 at 10:27am:

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most muslims don't support genocide. Insisting that the proof of this claim is reference to an alleged massacre by Muhammad of an unknown number of military aged males of a tiny tribe in the 7th century who are believed to have violated a treaty and initiated war against him - is the most facile attempt at logic you're likely to ever come across

So you are arguing that a massacre of Jews that even you support does not count as a "base" for an accusation that all Muslims support genocide?

not if you can't provide a coherent explanation for why a standard run-of-the-mill mass execution of POWs is a 'genocide' - that is somehow morally equivalent to the slaughter of 6 million men women and children.

Not when it provides such an obvious platform for you to demonize evern muslim man woman and child as literally the same as genocidal nazis.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #127 - Dec 24^th, 2018 at 12:48pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 24^th, 2018 at 10:36am:

freediver wrote on Dec 24^th, 2018 at 10:27am:

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most muslims don't support genocide. Insisting that the proof of this claim is reference to an alleged massacre by Muhammad of an unknown number of military aged males of a tiny tribe in the 7th century who are believed to have violated a treaty and initiated war against him - is the most facile attempt at logic you're likely to ever come across

So you are arguing that a massacre of Jews that even you support does not count as a "base" for an accusation that all Muslims support genocide?

not if you can't provide a coherent explanation for why a standard run-of-the-mill mass execution of POWs is a 'genocide' - that is somehow morally equivalent to the slaughter of 6 million men women and children.

Not when it provides such an obvious platform for you to demonize evern muslim man woman and child as literally the same as genocidal nazis.

Would you also argue that the holocaust was not a genocide because the victims were POWs?

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 37678 Gender:	Re: All Muslims support genocide Reply #128 - Dec 24^th, 2018 at 1:05pm Oh dear Effendi...... Quote: Would you also argue that the holocaust was not a genocide because the victims were POWs? I thought there were people in internment camps, not POWs. They were not captured combatants, Effendi
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Reply #129 - Dec 24^th, 2018 at 1:14pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 24^th, 2018 at 1:05pm:

Oh dear Effendi......

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Would you also argue that the holocaust was not a genocide because the victims were POWs?

I thought there were people in internment camps, not POWs. They were not captured combatants, Effendi

Neither were the Jews slaughtered by Muhammad Aussie. Though Muslims will claim that Muhammad was able to tell why was a "potential combatant" by inspecting their genitals.

Again Aussie, if you are going to defend Islam while pretending not to defend Islam, I suggest some other strategy besides your complete ignorance of Islam.

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Re: All Muslims support genocide
Reply #130 - Dec 24^th, 2018 at 1:32pm

freediver wrote on Dec 24^th, 2018 at 1:14pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 24^th, 2018 at 1:05pm:

Oh dear Effendi......

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Would you also argue that the holocaust was not a genocide because the victims were POWs?

I thought there were people in internment camps, not POWs. They were not captured combatants, Effendi

Neither were the Jews slaughtered by Muhammad Aussie. Though Muslims will claim that Muhammad was able to tell why was a "potential combatant" by inspecting their genitals.

Again Aussie, if you are going to defend Islam while pretending not to defend Islam, I suggest some other strategy besides your complete ignorance of Islam.

Oh...not militants at all, Effendi?

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Re: All Muslims support genocide
Reply #131 - Dec 24^th, 2018 at 5:14pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 24^th, 2018 at 1:32pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 24^th, 2018 at 1:14pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 24^th, 2018 at 1:05pm:

Oh dear Effendi......

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Would you also argue that the holocaust was not a genocide because the victims were POWs?

I thought there were people in internment camps, not POWs. They were not captured combatants, Effendi

Neither were the Jews slaughtered by Muhammad Aussie. Though Muslims will claim that Muhammad was able to tell why was a "potential combatant" by inspecting their genitals.

Again Aussie, if you are going to defend Islam while pretending not to defend Islam, I suggest some other strategy besides your complete ignorance of Islam.

Oh...not militants at all, Effendi?

No Aussie. Innocent Jews, slaughtered by Muhammad, which you and Gandalf now defend. At least from Gandalf it makes sense. No idea why you have so much to say on the topic, despite openly admitting that you have no clue what you are talking about.

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Re: All Muslims support genocide
Reply #132 - Dec 24^th, 2018 at 5:18pm

So...why have you been referring to them as treacherous...if they were innocent, Effendi?

What were they innocent of Effendi?

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No idea why you have so much to say on the topic, despite openly admitting that you have no clue what you are talking about.

I know full well what I am talking about Effendi...and it sure isn't Islam I am talking about, of which I know SFA.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47364 At my desk.	Re: All Muslims support genocide Reply #133 - Dec 24^th, 2018 at 6:55pm I refer to them as treacherous and a mindless collective because that was the justification used by Gandalf to justify the genocide. Quote: I know full well what I am talking about Effendi So why do you keep justifying the ridiculous things you say by insisting you know nothing about Islam?
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Reply #134 - Dec 26^th, 2018 at 7:06pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 24^th, 2018 at 8:40am:

freediver wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2018 at 9:04am:

Can you explain what you consider to be acceptable or legitimate criticism of Islam?

Its not rocket science, criticise the ideology and any individuals who specifically adhere to that ideology - without making blanket slurs that demonize an entire population.

case in point:
- "the belief that genocide is awesome - is repugnant and should be condemned. Furthermore, I condemn any muslim who holds such beliefs." - gets the gandalf tick of approval

- "all muslims support genocide" - is bigoted, racist, not to mention utterly baseless, rubbish.

How would you deal with the Jews in Israel if it all suddenly became Palestine, a single muslim country? (Which is what all you Muslim want).

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